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What Can we do with a locked bootloader?

Can someone tell me what we will actually be able to download if bootloader remains looked? Can we flash certain types of Rom or mods? Or can we do nothing?
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ekerbuddyeker said:
Can someone tell me what we will actually be able to download if bootloader remains looked? Can we flash certain types of Rom or mods? Or can we do nothing?
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You can flash nothing. you can not flash TWRP or CWM

ekerbuddyeker said:
Can someone tell me what we will actually be able to download if bootloader remains looked? Can we flash certain types of Rom or mods? Or can we do nothing?
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Should work the same as the S4 MF update that locked down the bootloader. You should be able to root but as for custom roms and CWM/TWRP we're out of luck.
Coming from a S4 running CM10.2 I'm not going to like using the standard rom but will get used to it I guess.

So even with the bootlegged locked we should be able to tour so we can use TB to backup and restore?
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I have a locked MF3 firmware S4 and I'm running 3 different ROMs that are hot swappable thanks to Safestrap developed my Hashcode so even with a locked bootloader you can do something. Only thing is for now we are limited to internal storage for the ROM slots can't create them on external SD card but Hashcode has been working on that. Also we can only flash TW ROMs since we can't flash a custom kernel but that is also being worked on, I believe they want to be able flash a kernel with kexec. I have an AT&T S4 and currently swapping between an international Foxhound ROM, Google Play ROM, and well the stock ROM.
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At this point I'd be happy with just root so I can use Titanium Backup.

Would be nice if we could get Loki.
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All I want is Titanium Backup

ekerbuddyeker said:
Can someone tell me what we will actually be able to download if bootloader remains looked? Can we flash certain types of Rom or mods? Or can we do nothing?
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Even tho I don't have any phone that has a bootloader. (i don't live in the USA Neither)
But if your Bootloader is locked you cannot Flash CWM or TWRP or flash custom roms (Because they need CWM or TWRP).
Sorry if I'm wrong. I don't have any phone with locked bootloader. Hope this helps.
regards warface123.

supers2k said:
All I want is Titanium Backup
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Ditto... which is why I am returning my AT&T Note 3 less than 24 hrs after I purchased it.
My fault for not researching the bootlocker issue, but no way am I going to give up Titanium Backup. It has saved my tail more than once.

I'm also coming from an att S4. There has not been a bootloader unlock exploit but they do have some work around exploits like loki & safestrape. Loki is out bc they've already patched that so at this point I just hope we get root bc without that you don't have a fighting chance at custom roms
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All I want to do is remove the AT&T bloat as well as the Samsung bloat. When I took my stock Note 2 and installed Cleanrom on it it felt like the phone got a cpu boost. Everything was smoother and faster.
With root, can we uninstall crap that is blocked from being removed while stock? I can live with a locked bootloader if I can just get as close to a stripped rom as possible. I'm pretty new to this stuff so forgive the newbie question.

Root and custom recovery

Ok im new to the s4 and have been doing alot of reading. So let me get this right I can root and install custom recovery without using a pc ?
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JReeher said:
Ok im new to the s4 and have been doing alot of reading. So let me get this right I can root and install custom recovery without using a pc ?
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Just to be clear, this is the forum for the S4 Active which is a different phone than the regular S4. That said, it really depends on which version of the S4 Active you have:
If you have the AT&T version (i537), then you can root, but you cannot install custom recovery due to a locked bootloader (stupid AT&T). You can still install custom ROMs using SafeStrap, but you are limited to TouchWiz based ROMs.
If you have the International version (i9295), then you can root and install custom recovery (the bootloader is unlocked), so you can pretty much install whatever you want.
I hope this helps, check out the Development section of this forum for more information.

JReeher said:
Ok im new to the s4 and have been doing alot of reading. So let me get this right I can root and install custom recovery without using a pc ?
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Yeah my apologies I have the active and also the att version (dumb) but thanks for the reply
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On 4.3, scared to do anything

Ok, got a note 3 with 4.3 again.
No lies, not fraud, no nothing except a faulty power port and honesty and I ended up with a 4.3 note 3 again
Pant, pant..WHAT DO I DO, I know Kingo root. Titanium backup first. The opporturnity to use my microsd card again! I am actually excited!
And after Kingo, how do I not AT&T upgrade?
I am hearing it forces you after a little while, what do I do? I really want to keep my root!
I am so sorry to my Note Brethren with KK without any way to use THEIR phones. My sympathies are sincere!
Any advice appreciated!

Honeybadger said:
Ok, got a note 3 with 4.3 again.
No lies, not fraud, no nothing except a faulty power port and honesty and I ended up with a 4.3 note 3 again
Pant, pant..WHAT DO I DO, I know Kingo root. Titanium backup first. The opporturnity to use my microsd card again! I am actually excited!
And after Kingo, how do I not AT&T upgrade?
I am hearing it forces you after a little while, what do I do? I really want to keep my root!
I am so sorry to my Note Brethren with KK without any way to use THEIR phones. My sympathies are sincere!
Any advice appreciated!
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You can freeze that AT&T update in Titanium.

incisivekeith said:
You can freeze that AT&T update in Titanium.
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So Kingo, root, freeze. Gotcha.
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incisivekeith said:
You can freeze that AT&T update in Titanium.
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What's the name of the app(s) to freeze? Just want to make sure I freeze the right one(s).

greenleaf10 said:
What's the name of the app(s) to freeze? Just want to make sure I freeze the right one(s).
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I believe it's listed as AT&T Software Update
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Ok, so if I am at 4.3, and want to keep my root, is there a path to kk that still has root? I would prefer the non ss route. BTW, the main thing that makes me root is I want to use my Microsd card and when unrooted backup and other apps seem unable to access it properly.
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SS is the only way to go. There are no downsides to using SS to use a custom ROM.
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Seems like kk isn't worth the effort, you can't access the Microsd, the wifi Hotspot is locked off unless you pay at&t and all issues have been fixed in 4.3, anything gained?
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graydiggy said:
SS is the only way to go. There are no downsides to using SS to use a custom ROM.
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Read in xda it's slow because it's using flash memory.
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Not at all slow.
Your stock ROM runs on the same thing your storage does. The EMMC.
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Plus, with SS and KK, you have to flash to the stock slot.
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graydiggy said:
Not at all slow.
Your stock ROM runs on the same thing your storage does. The EMMC.
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Plus, with SS and KK, you have to flash to the stock slot.
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Got back root on 4.3, Sweet Archemedes this feels good, like my phone again!
Stock slot, would that be the one that is the original ROM?
Dynamic Kat looks intreguing.But it says I have to have KK first. Can I get DK working from JB rooted?

Indeed it is.
Use this guide. (replace the Urdroid KK ROM that he says to download with DynamicKat)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712039
Then head over to our development section and find the SS thread.
You will need both 3.71 and 3.72
3.71 will get you to KK with the guide. Once there, you will need to reinstall it and use it to uninstall the recovery.
Then uninstall the app.
After that, install 3.72 and use it to install your new recovery. That way you don't have to use odin every time you want to flash a mod or new kk rom
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So I'm on stock 4.3. Mj5. I have rooted and I'm confused on getting to custom firmware. I've played with SS 3.71. But I tried to install custom Ron but was unsuccessful. Can someone tell me or link me to a thread. Please. I just came from a galaxy s3 to the n900a. I'd like to start with cm11.

mrwattz405 said:
So I'm on stock 4.3. Mj5. I have rooted and I'm confused on getting to custom firmware. I've played with SS 3.71. But I tried to install custom Ron but was unsuccessful. Can someone tell me or link me to a thread. Please. I just came from a galaxy s3 to the n900a. I'd like to start with cm11.
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1. Don't hijack threads
2. Only TW based ROMs can be flashed.
3. Go read the SS development thread.
You need to make sure you are on 3.71 when trying to flash a 4.3 ROM and 3.72 to use KK.
Read my post above.
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Hoping to get some advice on best backup recovery(noob)

I recently rooted my device but I can not find a recovery backup app that supports my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537. I am on at&t. I have downloaded twrp manager but I can not find the code to install the correct version. Any help would be appreciated.
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ROF618 said:
I recently rooted my device but I can not find a recovery backup app that supports my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537. I am on at&t. I have downloaded twrp manager but I can not find the code to install the correct version. Any help would be appreciated.
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The i537 has a locked bootloader, you cannot install a custom recovery or custom ROM. You can however install SafeStrap, which is a pseudo-recovery and you can backup your stock ROM as well as install TouchWiz-based ROMs. Look in the development section for the SafeStrap thread.

[Q] need help rooting my samsung galaxy s4 active...

i have been trying for weeks now to root my s4 active but am not getting through... is there anyone here who could help me plz..
this also is my device info and i have tried these both files and they dont work

also when i run either of these files i get an error.. this device is not suported

warmachine20 said:
also when i run either of these files i get an error.. this device is not suported
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Read the root instructions for NH3 in the i537 Firmware Thread. There are links in there that explain exactly how to root NH3.

Plz post a link to the thread
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warmachine20 said:
Plz post a link to the thread
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In order to root the firmware version you are on (NH3), you have to use this method. Please make sure that you download the files for US (AT&T) Galaxy S4 Active (SGH-I537).

warmachine20 said:
Plz post a link to the thread
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It's stickied. Or you could always search for it.

Thx a lot am now rooted.. I realize that super user is not installed.. do I install super user now or should I do a clock work recovery first..
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warmachine20 said:
Thx a lot am now rooted.. I realize that super user is not installed.. do I install super user now or should I do a clock work recovery first..
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Install SuperSU from chainfire on the play store, open it once it's installed run it and follow the prompts, try to select the option to install the binaries or whatever while the phone is running and select the option that you are NOT on any sort of custom recovery. You can use SafeStrap to make nandroid backups which is what I believe you were asking, but as far as ClockWorkMod, I think it bears repeating:
You have a locked bootloader. There is no way around this, no ifs ands or buts. You simply cannot flash custom ROMs or recoveries. That's it, end of story as far as CM, CWM, AOSP and such things are concerned. That being said there is a sort of recovery called SafeStrap which you can use to make nandroid backups, flash mods and STOCK-BASED roms, but it's not a true custom recovery in the sense that we had been used to, because of this locked bootloader nightmare.

Was hesitant on several other methods I've read over the past day after Towelroot V3 didn't work initially. I followed this step by step and it worked flawless for me on my SGH-I537 KK 4.4.2 NH3. Took about 20 mins being carefull.