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Will the Gear get ROMs? Use with other phones?

I know it's VERY early, but that 30% discount at Tmobile is tempting me. But I don't plan on getting a Note 3 or a S4. Currently I'm very happy with my LG G2, although I am considering swapping out to a Nexus 5 depending on what that ends up being.
Anyway I'm trying to find a use for the Gear without a S4/N3. Is there ANY functionality that would prove useful just running it by itself?
Do you guys anticipate any ROMs released in the future to have it work with other Android phones, or just to add stand alone functionality to it? Or is it a totally closed system and hopeless?

Right now it's an n3 or nothing. Have not heard of any roms really

spinedoc said:
I know it's VERY early, but that 30% discount at Tmobile is tempting me. But I don't plan on getting a Note 3 or a S4. Currently I'm very happy with my LG G2, although I am considering swapping out to a Nexus 5 depending on what that ends up being.
Anyway I'm trying to find a use for the Gear without a S4/N3. Is there ANY functionality that would prove useful just running it by itself?
Do you guys anticipate any ROMs released in the future to have it work with other Android phones, or just to add stand alone functionality to it? Or is it a totally closed system and hopeless?
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Right now without a compatible device to pair it to you can't even use it as a watch, as the pairing process is what sets the time etc, and there is no way to bypass the screen instructing you to pair it with your device. After it's paired it will function as a watch, camera and pedometer without being connected to the phone but that's about it. No idea on roms but I have heard Samsung will be releasing an SDK for developers to create apps for it.
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Right now it's an n3 or nothing. Have not heard of any roms really
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The app was updated so it can be installed on an S4 from the Samsung store yesterday I believe. Pretty sure it doesn't support all the functions on the S4 tho until it gets 4.3.

Could always get a gear and go into a carrier store and sync on of the GN 3 on display... Jk... Then again it may work. Lol
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koreankabachy said:
Could always get a gear and go into a carrier store and sync on of the GN 3 on display... Jk... Then again it may work. Lol
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It will work :laugh::good:

Galaxy Gear 2

Say what? Already?
Built in Gps & 4Gb....why must they do this to early adopters (and so soon). I can't complain, mine was free with my Note 3, but I still feel a bit...meh.
"The Samsung Galaxy Gear 2 will reportedly launch as an all-Android device which means you won't have to own either the Samsung Galaxy S4, Galaxy Note 3 or Galaxy S3.
According to Pocket-Lint, Samsung's next-generation Smart Watch will come sporting in-built GPS along with 4GB of onboard memory, it'll also come with running and music apps straight out of the box, something which the original Galaxy Gear was criticised for not having.
It's not clear whether Samsung will keep the same design as the original Galaxy Gear or whether the company will decide to make some changes there as well in light of the fact that it would work with any Android smartphone.
Whilst it may seem as though this is a very short turnaround for a company to be releasing an update it's actually something Samsung has plenty of practise at with the Galaxy range being constantly updated throughout the year."
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we don't need that. galaxy gear is perfectly capable of running internet browser and navigation apps, it just need custom rom for that.
they need to update the software and get rid of touchwiz, it will never be usefull.
Galaxy range being constantly updated throughout the year.
say what? they barely make updates, and when they do they do not work properly leaving the user with broken software for MONTHS.

CES 2014 does not mean they will start selling it it the middle of January either.
I like two things,
A display that does not need to time out in 5 seconds
Double the battery life (even though the gear has great battery life now)

They better make the first gear, compatible with all phones so at least we can get some resale value.
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Nah, Samsung is going to build the first Nexus watch that will be introduced at CES 2014 Or... whatever

Wow, only ordered one last night. Now question is, do I cancel and wait six months? Now I have typed it out in front of me I say hell no...

Why?
With the work that FOmey and others are doing, why go for 2.0. I have a browser, Nova Launcher, etc. Does far more than my Pebble and getting much more every day. This is what I bought mine for. Other than a few minor thing, it is doing more than I thought it could less than 6 weeks after release. I'm sure we will get TWRP or CWM soon, so we'll have all we need. The hardware is already great, so I'm enjoying it. I'll be buying 2.0 down the road, being a hardware junkie, but this has been so much fun already.

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Galaxy range being constantly updated throughout the year.
say what? they barely make updates, and when they do they do not work properly leaving the user with broken software for MONTHS.
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Yea I think they were referring to hardware updates rather than software ones. I agree though, bar lack of rich notifications over most apps, I love mine too

We all know were going to buy it as soon as it hits the shelves.. or atleast I am
I look forward to it ! Would be nice if they offered trade in's if its such a short period of time after the initial release date.

Yeah.. will buy the next gear if it hit the store.. But I will still keep my gear tho..
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fOmey said:
We all know were going to buy it as soon as it hits the shelves.. or atleast I am
I look forward to it ! Would be nice if they offered trade in's if its such a short period of time after the initial release date.
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Only if the Screen does not time out........ At screen on 24/7
Who am I kidding if it came out next week, I likely would buy it

i'm tired of being an early adopter and then left for loong time with barely to no support at all.
they will have to make more improvements if they want my money again.

Early adopter with no support? Really? With the frequent updates samsung provides...i think they are doing a stand up job.
The gear is in constant development and improvment. That's why we all buy samsung. What other company provides as many updates across their Android portfolio as they do?
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Early adopter with no support? Really? With the frequent updates samsung provides...i think they are doing a stand up job.
The gear is in constant development and improvment. That's why we all buy samsung. What other company provides as many updates across their Android portfolio as they do?
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+1 - Also if the phone is not getting the updates thats due to the cel company's not pushing them out, Because Samsung is.
Also if it was to come out soon I would keep my current Gear. and get the new one. But what if it does not have all that I want and have to wait for cool roms again to make it mine. (OK, OK, I could just do it the old fashioned way) But this is why I love being Married, Her wife have my Gear, Dang now I need one, Time to get the Gear 2. LOL Did that with the Note 2 to the Note 3, gave her my note 2 and got me then note 3. I love my understanding wife.)

From what I read, the first great was to test the market. I was about to buy one but now I will wait a few months. It's hard to keep up with innovation and technology and Samsung is at the forefront. Very similar to what the did What the s3 to the s4.. I believe it was 9 months between them.
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You gotta watch out for the word "reportedly"...some of these "reported" stories are bs
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Seriously, how can the Gear keep getting bad reviews?

I've got a lot of wearables (Pebble, Gear, Fitbit, Glass, etc.) and the Gear beats them all by a wide margin based on functionality, ease of use and looks.
I'm still baffled that nearly every review and comment I see still bashes it.
Especially with the latest updates it has become a great device.

I don't understand that either. I mean my only complaint is that I haven't been pushed the new update but I plan to manually do so anyways and the battery life isn't the greatest. But honestly what do you expect from a watch that does so much? I'm happy I don't see what everyone else's problem is. Maybe they expected to strap it on and start curing cancer or something... Its a watch people.
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mhoepfin said:
I've got a lot of wearables (Pebble, Gear, Fitbit, Glass, etc.) and the Gear beats them all by a wide margin based on functionality, ease of use and looks.
I'm still baffled that nearly every review and comment I see still bashes it.
Especially with the latest updates it has become a great device.
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You hit the nail on the head. I have the Quallcom Toq in addition to the Galaxy Gear, and the only better feature with the Toq is their interferometric modulator*display technology (Mirasol display). With this technology, 3 to 5 days battery life can be obtained with heavy usage if the backlight is not used, but the display itself is always on and readable, and actually becomes more readable in direct sunlight. With the display always lit, it appears less nerdy than a blank faced (no display) smartwatch. Bottom line is, I'd rather have one full days battery life out of a useful smartwatch, than 3 to 5 days of battery life from a smartwatch that is only marginally useful and is clunky in its operation. With note 3 tucked in pocket, on a ladder installing an in ceiling speaker, I can answer a call on the Galaxy Gear from my wife, so she can tell me she crashed into my car that was parked in our garage. True story.
Could it be better, sure.... But for a company that took a chance to beat Apple to the mass production line, it is pretty impressive.
My 2 cents worth.

Completely agree with you. I bought a metawatch when it first came out as a developer watch. It was awesome at the time, but the gear blows it out of the water. I mean, battery life isn't bad. I think people read the 25 hours and think it's true. When I first got my gear, I couldn't put it down and still got 2 full days. Now I'm getting close to 4 days. With the notification update, this thing just got way cooler and more useful. It just keeps getting better and better every day. I can't help but to think that people that give it bad reviews either have not really owned one or have not used it to it's potential.

Well and I have some "inside" info. They are planning something big with the watch Samsung is building a new rom every day.....
Im from SAMMobile BTW...
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Jeshter2000 said:
Well and I have some "inside" info. They are planning something big with the watch Samsung is building a new rom every day.....
Im from SAMMobile BTW...
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A new rom every day ? Hmm.. SHAKE TO WAKE GOD DAM IT, WE WANT SHAKE TO WAKE !

Jeshter2000 said:
Well and I have some "inside" info. They are planning something big with the watch Samsung is building a new rom every day.....
Im from SAMMobile BTW...
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Hopefully official non-Samsung phone compatibility...
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Gear is great when we have both stock Rom at sammobile and an improvement from fomey Null Rom. Thank you guys for your hard work to make Gear our best choice smartwatch.
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Jeshter2000 said:
Well and I have some "inside" info. They are planning something big with the watch Samsung is building a new rom every day.....
Im from SAMMobile BTW...
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Do you know what it is that they are planning?

jonboyuk said:
Do you know what it is that they are planning?
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No not yet ... Im poking my sources!
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I watched a ton of reviews on YouTube, and while they were all basically saying cool device but lots of problems, there was one similarity. They were ALL done within the first week or two of release. Before a lot of the issues were addressed (namely the notification issue). Even reviews released late November were actually using pre-updated information.
Under my daily usage (heavy notifications, reminders, calls and pictures), I get easily 1.5 days. And since I charge my phone every night anyways, it's no biggie to charge my watch as well. I used to take my regular watch off every night as well, now the only difference is an additional charging cord.
I'm happy with battery life, amazed at how much they crammed into a watch (seriously, this is a WATCH, and look at its capabilities, not even with rooting and such), and am not even mad about the price (my wife bought me a watch a few years ago for about half the cost, and all it has going for it is a few small diamonds inlaid in it. All IT can do is tell me the time)
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I've checked out all other reviews on other watches, And my gear do way more than those other watches

Would be nice if it worked with other Android devices though, Like my Nexus 5.
Sometimes the Note is a little large for where I'm going so the N5 is ideal & the Gear would complement it brilliantly.

Hey guys i got a couple of question, I have the pebble watch so when the notification comes on the watch and you view it does it clear it from the phone? also with the pebble watch the talkback system on the phone turns on so that means when i use the stock browser the voice says like "page loading or page loaded" im guessing the gear doesnt do that right?

The device was bound to get bad reviews because of the limited functionality, and limited usability before it was available to the current crop of smartphones.
And even then, you have the issues that Google Wallet faced when it was first released... if it only works with a couple of phones to do a few things, people are going to be quick to dismiss it as a "gimmick"
And it doesn't help when it's not a cheap gimmick as well. Unless you're a serious tinkerer -- like most of the people reading this thread -- you have to be seriously committed to not just Android but to the Samsung ecosystem as a whole in order to actually enjoy spending $300 on this smartwatch.
If Samsung releases a complete solution that would allow the Gear to work with ANY Android phone that supports Bluetooth LE, and work flawlessly without any tinkering, then you'll see a turnaround in the reviews -- much like you saw with the Gear Manager update that allowed additional notifications.
Their application development for the Gear is invite-only, so even if you had access to an SDK you couldn't publish any apps for use with the watch -- again, unless it was restricted to people "like us" that don't mind going out of their way to push an apk and sideload it to their watch, at the risk of turning it into a brick.
It's going to take some doing, and I don't know if Samsung will actually do what is necessary for this particular generation of the Gear to become a mainstream device. I'm glad I got one, but in retrospect it's really a lot of hard work to fully extract its potential. Until Samsung addresses this, I doubt you'll see many stellar reviews.

Snapchat "lenses"?

Does the "lenses" feature work for any of you guys? All I've seen so far is it on iPhone. However, their update on the play store states that it's only available on newer phones. Can SnapChat just not detect my face or did they leave us out?

same problem here with the note 5. works fine on the note 4 tho.

Note 5 AT&T here. Snapchst Lenses isn't working for me either. Trying to find out why, but nobody seems to know the answer yet. Tried it on my sisters Note 3 and it worked great.

Having the same issue. I'll try to reach out to Snapchat for an answer
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Same issue here with my Note 5. I really was wanting to try it out.

I have the same issue as well - does anyone notice when using the back camera a white circle appears if you hold your finger down? I never noticed this before.

Another note 5 user who is left out with this new feature. I'm supposedly a Beta tester for them too!

Samsung S4
Here is a Samsung S4 rooted phone with Stockware from samsung, android 5.0.1, who is also left out. I got it to work on an xperia z2 android 5.1.1 non rooted.
Does the version have anything to say? Or the rooting?

Snapchat fixed it with Wednesdays update via play store
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Yup works for me too. They released another update the same day the original update came.
What I'm more interested in is the ability to change cameras while recording a snap.

I have a Note 5 & I am experiencing the same issue with both filters and lenses. Anybody with a solution please tell.

Mine works on tmobile
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Move data from old phone with Samsung Switch

I am waiting for my new Note 8 and currently have a moto z play. I wonder how I'm going to move data and everything to the new phone.
Is it worth using Switch?
Will it move every app data or just a few things?
Thank you.

Switch has always worked great for me. I even used it to move stuff from a Kyocera flip phone to a S6 for work. Lots better than Kies.
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Yep, I have used it the last 3 or 4 times and it's better then before.

It causes problems

I used Switch when I got my S8+ and it caused me to have terrible battery life. After a factory reset and manually installing apps, everything came right.
I stayed away from Switch this time with my Note 8

Not for app data. For apps it just installs a fresh install of whatever app you had on the old phone.

Use it from Samsung to Samsung devices multiple times. No issues.
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Just helped someone transfer content from a Note Edge to a Note 8 this past weekend; used the wireless method and everything went flawless.