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Hey Everyone, I just wanna know if I Can OC My SGS to 1.2GHz Without any problems, Because I heared that OC SGS is not stable and It's dagerous for my Phone's Life, I that True ?
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Shadow Life said:
Hey Everyone, I just wanna know if I Can OC My SGS to 1.2GHz Without any problems, Because I heared that OC SGS is not stable and It's dagerous for my Phone's Life, I that True ?
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Yes you can, depending on the kernel you use, oc your phone even up to 1.5 ghz.
Flash Glitch, MNICS, Devil or Semaphore Kernel for ICS roms
Do so with care as OCing WILL degrade your processor faster.
It depends a bit on your luck. Processors aren't all the same (variance in quality during manufacturing), the 1 ghz that is the default is considered a 'safe' level and every processor will be able to do that frequency. Usually though, there's a fair amount of buffer, so most processors can go beyond 1ghz to say 1.2 without any issue.
As the frequency increases, stability decreases. This means your phone will become more prone to crashing. Some people are lucky and can go very high (1.5, 1.7?), while others might start facing instability at 1.2. Won't know until you try. It's unlikely to cause permanent damage anyway, just change back to 1.0 if it's unstable
It probably does increase wear and tear of processor somewhat, but considering people will buy a new phone within 1-2 years, there's really no problem
Oc SGS 1.2Ghz
nwsk said:
It depends a bit on your luck. Processors aren't all the same (variance in quality during manufacturing), the 1 ghz that is the default is considered a 'safe' level and every processor will be able to do that frequency. Usually though, there's a fair amount of buffer, so most processors can go beyond 1ghz to say 1.2 without any issue.
As the frequency increases, stability decreases. This means your phone will become more prone to crashing. Some people are lucky and can go very high (1.5, 1.7?), while others might start facing instability at 1.2. Won't know until you try. It's unlikely to cause permanent damage anyway, just change back to 1.0 if it's unstable
It probably does increase wear and tear of processor somewhat, but considering people will buy a new phone within 1-2 years, there's really no problem
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I Have "[email protected]" Kernel Up to 1.3Ghz, I Don't face any problems When i OC to 1.2GHz,, Games run smooth (Real racing 2) And the phone is Very responsive,, But when i play about 2 Hours My phone's temperatur increase (Just a Little Bit) but i don't know if it may Effect my Phone's Life,,
Shadow Life said:
I Have "[email protected]" Kernel Up to 1.3Ghz, I Don't face any problems When i OC to 1.2GHz,, Games run smooth (Real racing 2) And the phone is Very responsive,, But when i play about 2 Hours My phone's temperatur increase (Just a Little Bit) but i don't know if it may Effect my Phone's Life,,
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Being electronics' worst enemy, heat can and will kill your phone. But that's only if it reaches those temperatures. Overclocking your phone naturally will increase heat from the processor. Check your phones temperature. If you're reaching 50C or over, you're getting too hot. The general rule of thumb is this: if it's uncomfortable to the touch, your phone is too hot.
Most phones should get to 1.2 GHz without a problem. Keep in mind that LiveOC is NOT THE SAME as adding another frequency step, which was the traditional way of overclocking. Some kernels do one, some do the other, and some do both. Adding an additional frequency step to get to 1.2 GHz should be capable by most if not all phones. LiveOCing to 1.2 GHz won't be nearly as compatible, as it overclocks the bus, GPU and CPU.
upichie said:
Being electronics' worst enemy, heat can and will kill your phone. But that's only if it reaches those temperatures. Overclocking your phone naturally will increase heat from the processor. Check your phones temperature. If you're reaching 50C or over, you're getting too hot. The general rule of thumb is this: if it's uncomfortable to the touch, your phone is too hot.
Most phones should get to 1.2 GHz without a problem. Keep in mind that LiveOC is NOT THE SAME as adding another frequency step, which was the traditional way of overclocking. Some kernels do one, some do the other, and some do both. Adding an additional frequency step to get to 1.2 GHz should be capable by most if not all phones. LiveOCing to 1.2 GHz won't be nearly as compatible, as it overclocks the bus, GPU and CPU.
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Hello guys,
I`ve been trying to find a way to have all 4 cpu cores online all the time to see if it helps playing games (lag) as I tested, for me every game lags when there is only 1 core running, than when the phone needs more power it turns on other cores and it lags, on that exact moment!
Trying Glowball, Tegra 3 game doesn`t lag because every core is on 100% of the time! And I`ve seen users saying that they don`t have lag on their phones because every core is active during gaming sessions, which is not my case.
I tried to use System Tuner Pro > Boot Settings > Force all CPUs online with no success and didn`t try CPU Editor as I don`t know how to install it.:silly:
If you have lags on gaming this might be a solution!
Does anyone know how to keep`em online all the time? 10H here.
Thanks for your help. :fingers-crossed:
gabrielgon said:
Hello guys,
I`ve been trying to find a way to have all 4 cpu cores online all the time to see if it helps playing games (lag) as I tested, for me every game lags when there is only 1 core running, than when the phone needs more power it turns on other cores and it lags, on that exact moment!
Trying Glowball, Tegra 3 game doesn`t lag because every core is on 100% of the time! And I`ve seen users saying that they don`t have lag on their phones because every core is active during gaming sessions, which is not my case.
I tried to use System Tuner Pro > Boot Settings > Force all CPUs online with no success and didn`t try CPU Editor as I don`t know how to install it.:silly:
If you have lags on gaming this might be a solution!
Does anyone know how to keep`em online all the time? 10H here.
Thanks for your help. :fingers-crossed:
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Well Glowball doesnt lag because they optimized it for a tegra3 devices. so the problem is the game developer, not the phone as far as i know.
i dont know if what you want can be done.
profyler said:
Well Glowball doesnt lag because they optimized it for a tegra3 devices. so the problem is the game developer, not the phone as far as i know.
i dont know if what you want can be done.
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Well, Shadowgun THD is in theory optimized and lags anyway. It`s just frustrating to have a quad-core high end phone that lags on so many games.
But thank you!
gabrielgon said:
Well, Shadowgun THD is in theory optimized and lags anyway. It`s just frustrating to have a quad-core high end phone that lags on so many games.
But thank you!
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I am playing Shadowgun THD without lag I dont know why, But yes u are right about this problem.
I have tried playing most wanted It iagged but I noticed that the procesor speed are 520 mhz or such, and it makes problems,
So I put maximum 1500 MHz as minimum speed clock, but after playing more then 5 minutes processor speed was not more than 1000 MHz (even with root setup).
It turns that the problem is in the kernel, it is some sort of OVERHEATING protection.
But I am pretty sure that all 4 cores were active even the speeds didn't go more than 1000 MHz.
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I am playing Shadowgun THD without lag I dont know why, But yes u are right about this problem.
I have tried playing most wanted It iagged but I noticed that the procesor speed are 520 mhz or such, and it makes problems,
So I put maximum 1500 MHz as minimum speed clock, but after playing more then 5 minutes processor speed was not more than 1000 MHz (even with root setup).
It turns that the problem is in the kernel, it is some sort of OVERHEATING protection.
But I am pretty sure that all 4 cores were active even the speeds didn't go more than 1000 MHz.
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its not a overheating problem. i play MW and theres is alwasy only 1 core at 1500MHZ at 95%. If the game could use the other cores, it wouldnt.
remember htc has exactly the same problem... its the developer fault coz there is apps and game optimized t use all cores when needed
This sucks right? If this could be done I`m quite sure that the lag problem would be solved or minimized greatly!
If anyone knows something about it please let us know!
Much appreciated.
First if you forced all the cores online ,, then you can use your phone for about 2 hours with overheat . So you will lose your battery .
and about the games it is a problem with our ''kernel'' ,, the kernel is controlling the cpu and the hardware . LG optimized the kernel for long battery use and if you noticed the cpu takes a long time to change the frequency . LG made the phone for daily use .
To test CPU use benchmark ,, not games , games are very complex application and maybe isn't compatible with tegra 3 .
Our phones have nearly the same Galaxy S3 benchmark scores .
And if you noticed our CPU is excellent with miltitasking
you can say our CPU has a hidden power .
Any custom kernel can solve this problems but we have a locked bootloader . So we should wait until JB which has unlocked bootloaders (as LG said)
Trust me, making an app that can even run on more than one thread is hard; very hard
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gabrielgon said:
Well, Shadowgun THD is in theory optimized and lags anyway. It`s just frustrating to have a quad-core high end phone that lags on so many games.
But thank you!
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never lags on when ive tried, the only game ive ever experienced lag on was when i first tried need for speed but now it doesnt seem to lag,
ljubisa_sk said:
I am playing Shadowgun THD without lag I dont know why, But yes u are right about this problem.
I have tried playing most wanted It iagged but I noticed that the procesor speed are 520 mhz or such, and it makes problems,
So I put maximum 1500 MHz as minimum speed clock, but after playing more then 5 minutes processor speed was not more than 1000 MHz (even with root setup).
It turns that the problem is in the kernel, it is some sort of OVERHEATING protection.
But I am pretty sure that all 4 cores were active even the speeds didn't go more than 1000 MHz.
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i have that exact same problem and it IS caused by overheating..when temperature goes over 36c the max speed automatically resets to 1000mhz if the min speed was above..but when temperature is below most games work flawlessly
matatouille96 said:
i have that exact same problem and it IS caused by overheating..when temperature goes over 36c the max speed automatically resets to 1000mhz if the min speed was above..but when temperature is below most games work flawlessly
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When playing dead trigger, mone will usually run 4cores 100% at 1500 until it reaches 42°
But I know that if, you play music it will keep at 1000 no matter what the temp is
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gabrielgon said:
Hello guys,
I`ve been trying to find a way to have all 4 cpu cores online all the time to see if it helps playing games (lag) as I tested, for me every game lags when there is only 1 core running, than when the phone needs more power it turns on other cores and it lags, on that exact moment!
Trying Glowball, Tegra 3 game doesn`t lag because every core is on 100% of the time! And I`ve seen users saying that they don`t have lag on their phones because every core is active during gaming sessions, which is not my case.
I tried to use System Tuner Pro > Boot Settings > Force all CPUs online with no success and didn`t try CPU Editor as I don`t know how to install it.:silly:
If you have lags on gaming this might be a solution!
Does anyone know how to keep`em online all the time? 10H here.
Thanks for your help. :fingers-crossed:
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I only faced game lag issue when my device is over heated or when playing multiplayer games (like SG DeadZone) with bad internet connection..never faced such issue due to CPU?
To overcome heat issue I have underclock max speed to 1.2ghz with CPU Tweak app..and it has helped a lot with over heating as well as battery life, and never faced any issue with lag even with 1.2ghz speed..
I have read in many place that even HTC One X behave similarly until JB updates arrived so you dont worry much even if some configuration or app in your device is creating game lags, it will be much better with new JB updates :fingers-crossed:
Quick note:
The Tegra 3 can run only in Single Core mode on 1.5GHz, in other words when your CPU reads 1.5GHz, only one CPU core is being utilised. If you actually want to use all 4 cores, you should set the max frequency to 1.4GHz to avoid the CPU clocking up to 1.5GHz. Lag is caused by switching between all 4 cores on 1.4GHz and single core on 1.5GHz.
I cannot set the max cpu speed. Tried different apps, iam on stock rom v10h, with root, new on p880
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maus01 said:
I cannot set the max cpu speed. Tried different apps, iam on stock rom v10h, with root, new on p880
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Try this app:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854008
However, some users have reported bugs with this app so be careful.
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exFAT said:
Quick note:
The Tegra 3 can run only in Single Core mode on 1.5GHz, in other words when your CPU reads 1.5GHz, only one CPU core is being utilised. If you actually want to use all 4 cores, you should set the max frequency to 1.4GHz to avoid the CPU clocking up to 1.5GHz. Lag is caused by switching between all 4 cores on 1.4GHz and single core on 1.5GHz.
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actually hardware wise tegra 3 is capable of running all 4 cores at 1.5ghz however almost all of current android app are not optimised for multicore cpu..however i have noticed when monitered using apps that it somerimes uses all 4 cores at 1.5ghz.
However its better this way if its not running all 4cores at full speed...infact i have underclocked mine to 1.2ghz this helps alot to over come heating issue as well as battery life and no issues with HD games :thumbup:
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shazmekool said:
actually hardware wise tegra 3 is capable of running all 4 cores at 1.5ghz however almost all of current android app are not optimised for multicore cpu..however i have noticed when monitered using apps that it somerimes uses all 4 cores at 1.5ghz.
However its better this way if its not running all 4cores at full speed...infact i have underclocked mine to 1.2ghz this helps alot to over come heating issue as well as battery life and no issues with HD games :thumbup:
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I'm referring to the Tegra 3 T30 present in our devices. The T33 in the HOX+ can run at 1.6GHz in quad core and 1.7GHz in single core. However, the T30 can only run at 1.5GHz single core and 1.4GHz quad core.
To cite Wikipedia,
Tegra 3 T30: 1.4 GHz Quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 (up to 1.5 GHz in single-core mode)
IIRC over at the HOX forums there was a thread on CPU management to prevent lag spikes in games when Tegra 3 switches from quad core 1.4GHz to 1.5GHz single core or something along the lines of that.
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This app is getting famous now, but in case you didn`t see, it`s called tegra overclock (not tegrak!) and it manages to force every core online pretty well. It has some good other features too.
It`s paid but it`s worth it.
not to mention it DOES improve your gaming experience.
quadcore tegra
gabrielgon said:
Hello guys,
I`ve been trying to find a way to have all 4 cpu cores online all the time to see if it helps playing games (lag) as I tested, for me every game lags when there is only 1 core running, than when the phone needs more power it turns on other cores and it lags, on that exact moment!
Trying Glowball, Tegra 3 game doesn`t lag because every core is on 100% of the time! And I`ve seen users saying that they don`t have lag on their phones because every core is active during gaming sessions, which is not my case.
I tried to use System Tuner Pro > Boot Settings > Force all CPUs online with no success and didn`t try CPU Editor as I don`t know how to install it.:silly:
If you have lags on gaming this might be a solution!
Does anyone know how to keep`em online all the time? 10H here.
Thanks for your help. :fingers-crossed:
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try using tegra overclock. available in playstore. it works like a charm for me.
try using tegra overclock. it wkorks like a charm for me
Guys does anyone know if there is a way to control the Cpu / Gpu throttling on the Xperia SP on stock rooted roms?
XSP still needs development since its a new phone
Try doomlord's kernel if your looking to overclock your cpu. cant tell about gpu as i havent been able to get its setting through overclocking apps..hopefully upcoming months are gonna bring better kernels n mods
CPU/GPU throttling
mobm93 said:
Try doomlord's kernel if your looking to overclock your cpu. cant tell about gpu as i havent been able to get its setting through overclocking apps..hopefully upcoming months are gonna bring better kernels n mods
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I don't want to overclock the CPU or GPU.
what i wanted was to set the temperature at which the CPU throttles the GPU and CPU,
as I noticed it throttles them way to early and causes performance to drop,
i've found a bunch of files in system/etc ...
thermald.conf
thermald-8960.conf
thermald-8960ab.conf
which most likely have the temperatures set in them, just dunno if they are degrees C or farenheit and it isn't clear which refers to which cpu speed either,
was hoping someone can help me out here ...
regards
Im using zaiben rom on my lg optimus 4x hd. The performance is poor. Overall laggy and horrible gaming. I dont like using non stock based rom as they always have some bugs. I tried custom kernel like iodak werewolf but it made my phone heat up like crazy and unusable while charging. Any solution?
Buy another device stock Roms won't give you a good performance increase.
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I used stock with zaiben kernel for months, uninstalled all the useless system apps with Root Uninstaller, including hangouts, gmail, maps, youtube ... and then installed them again as normal applications and used the greenefy to hibernate most applications, never had a problem of lagg or excess heat. Now I'm testing some KK ROMs , and do the same thing using iodak kernel 9.95 and I'm liking the results.
Make a bakcup and test some KK ROMs.
sarnz said:
Im using zaiben rom on my lg optimus 4x hd. The performance is poor. Overall laggy and horrible gaming. I dont like using non stock based rom as they always have some bugs. I tried custom kernel like iodak werewolf but it made my phone heat up like crazy and unusable while charging. Any solution?
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Believe me, if you're using an LG phone, custom ROMs are ALWAYS better.
Stock ROM got too many bugs and I don't really like modified stock ROMs as people usually add more bloatware.
You should really give CM11 a try.Latest nightlies got very good performance with iodak 9.5 kernel.And no important bugs you should worry about.
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Believe me, if you're using an LG phone, custom ROMs are ALWAYS better.
Stock ROM got too many bugs and I don't really like modified stock ROMs as people usually add more bloatware.
You should really give CM11 a try.Latest nightlies got very good performance with iodak 9.5 kernel.And no important bugs you should worry about.
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If u use iodak or werwolf kernel wont phone heat up like crazy if u use ur phone or do some gaming especially. If u do it while phone is charging?
sarnz said:
If u use iodak or werwolf kernel wont phone heat up like crazy if u use ur phone or do some gaming especially. If u do it while phone is charging?
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If you use a custom kernel like iodak or ww, you can tweak many parameters. Among them there is cpu clock frequency and voltage.
Personally, I've set the stock 1500 mhz frequency and undervolted Mpu and cpu respectively by -30 and -75 mV. My phone runs smooth as silk and never gets horribly hot.
The guys who replied before me are right, though, stock roms or their derivates cannot be compared with CM11 in terms of performance they are way better. If I were you, I would flash one of the latest nightly and a custom kernel.
After some trials and errors you will be able to find the correct balance between over/underclocking and undervolting.
That is, if you are willing of doing some experiments. If you are looking for pre-cooked solutions I am afraid you will be deceived.
Ottonet said:
If you use a custom kernel like iodak or ww, you can tweak many parameters. Among them there is cpu clock frequency and voltage.
Personally, I've set the stock 1500 mhz frequency and undervolted Mpu and cpu respectively by -30 and -75 mV. My phone runs smooth as silk and never gets horribly hot.
The guys who replied before me are right, though, stock roms or their derivates cannot be compared with CM11 in terms of performance they are way better. If I were you, I would flash one of the latest nightly and a custom kernel.
After some trials and errors you will be able to find the correct balance between over/underclocking and undervolting.
That is, if you are willing of doing some experiments. If you are looking for pre-cooked solutions I am afraid you will be deceived.
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Tnx...which app do you. Use for undervolting and overclocking?
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Tnx...which app do you. Use for undervolting and overclocking?
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Trickstermod is a favorite for most of the people.Check your tegra variant, if it's 1 or above, you can use -122mV for CPU with no problems, max freq set to 1.5 ghz
I'm using this for months now and I sometimes forget my phone can get hot, unless I do heavy gaming for 30 mins or more.
Also try to overclock GPU.Helps a lot with FPS issues.
If you want good battery life and decent performance, underclock to 1300 mhz and undervolt by -122mV (if your variant is 1 or above)
Btw you can check your variant via /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/tegravariant after installing iodak kernel.Higher the variant, the higher you can overclock/undervolt.
@UP
My tegra variant is 3 o.o But when I undervolt 30mV on CPU and 75mV on MPU - as @peppethustra recommend in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761923&page=2 - it causes freezes, even when I underclock to 1,3GHz :/
Artisto said:
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My tegra variant is 3 o.o But when I undervolt 30mV on CPU and 75mV on MPU - as @peppethustra recommend in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761923&page=2 - it causes freezes, even when I underclock to 1,3GHz :/
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All phones are different you may have to tweak the values to fit your needs. Try upping the LP CPU voltage to -10 and work your way down. For MPU try -25 and work your way down on that as well.
Mine is a variant 2 and can use -20 and -110 with the 520 GPU overclock
Edit: also for more performance try changing your minfree values. Lower values mean better multitasking and high values mean more killing of background apps but more free ram for the foreground apps. I personally use 8, 12, 45, 65, 95, 165
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Hi xda, i own a z1 and its currently running kitkat rom build number 14.4.A.0.108, rooted and unlocked bootloader
What kernel can i install that supports underclock the cpu to 1,4 ghz, because i feel that at 2,3 ghz its just an overkill. And the device heats up a lot.
Also how can i disable the touchboost feature, the cpu was at 300 mhz during idle, but when i touch the screen its jumps up to maximum frequency, how can i disable this ?
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
If u just allow z1 run in 1.4ghz, i think u need buy another phone
lavenbut said:
If u just allow z1 run in 1.4ghz, i think u need buy another phone
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well the phone is given by someone to me, so no need to buy another phone, also i really liked the build quality
i am not heavy gamer or anything like that so i think 1,4 ghz will be more than enough