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So I gave searched for this and I want honest non biased answers how many SGS4 OWNERS made the wait h to MOTO X and what are your feelings ?

AndreaCristiano said:
So I gave searched for this and I want honest non biased answers how many SGS4 OWNERS made the wait h to MOTO X and what are your feelings ?
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I switched from the SGS4 to the MotoX and couldn't be happier. I prefer a more stock android experience and was a ROM flashaholic with the S4, but nothing was ever good enough on the TouchWiz front (I wanted to keep using some of those bells and whistles the S4 offers, so I always stuck with TW Roms). With the MotoX, I don't even think I will ever flash a ROM should it become possible. Stock is THAT good on this phone. It's really smooth! To me, it's about how well the phone runs, not how powerful it is. Motorola did such a great job tweaking the hardware in this phone that you wouldn't even know the difference that it had a less powerful chipset. It's actually smoother than stock on the S4, IMO. Very reminiscent of the GNex, but more awesome. I only really care about theming with this particular phone anyways, and that, I can do already with xposed. The reception on my MotoX seems way better than what I had on the S4. I like that the MotoX is smaller and more ergonomically sound. It's the perfect size for my tastes. Active notifications are the bees knees and MotoAssist is pretty cool too. The only thing I miss about the S4 is the camera, but I use real cameras for real photography. Patiently waiting on the Verizon update for MotoX. Hopefully, the camera will perform better like it does on the other variants for point and shoot shoots where a DSLR is not required, typical day-to-day use. Like I said, couldn't be happier with my decision to switch to the MotoX, even though I did enjoy the S4, it just wasn't the right phone for me.

Thank you very much I am leaning more and more towards buying a moto X and not waiting for the Nexus 5

I came from the HTC One and the GS4 and I couldn't be happier. The Moto X is the best smart phone ever made. Period.

_MetalHead_ said:
I came from the HTC One and the GS4 and I couldn't be happier. The Moto X is the best smart phone ever made. Period.
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I agree with you 100% bro.
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_MetalHead_ said:
I came from the HTC One and the GS4 and I couldn't be happier. The Moto X is the best smart phone ever made. Period.
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Damn you guys are making me want to pull the trigger and not even wait for the nexus 5

AndreaCristiano said:
Damn you guys are making me want to pull the trigger and not even wait for the nexus 5
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I'm getting the Nexus 5 as well. The X will likely remain my primary phone though. One thing I can tell you is that the N5 won't have Active Notifications and that's a MAJOR selling point for the X. Once you have them, you won't know what you ever did without them. The X also has the best in-hand feel of any device ever, which I doubt the N5 will be able to compete with. Those who know me on XDA know that I am VERY critical of phones, so if I recommend one, it must be amazing. That said, the X has my wholehearted recommendation. It's my first Motorola phone and I must say, they have gained a lifetime customer in me.

You guys that switched went with the carrier version of the Developer?

_MetalHead_ said:
I'm getting the Nexus 5 as well. The X will likely remain my primary phone though. One thing I can tell you is that the N5 won't have Active Notifications and that's a MAJOR selling point for the X. Once you have them, you won't know what you ever did without them. The X also has the best in-hand feel of any device ever, which I doubt the N5 will be able to compete with. Those who know me on XDA know that I am VERY critical of phones, so if I recommend one, it must be amazing. That said, the X has my wholehearted recommendation. It's my first Motorola phone and I must say, they have gained a lifetime customer in me.
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Wow OK I think I'm sold. I wanted to wait for the announcement but I don't know if I can. I'm so over this SGS4 IM willing to buy a black T-Mobile and not wait till the motomaker

AndreaCristiano said:
Wow OK I think I'm sold. I wanted to wait for the announcement but I don't know if I can. I'm so over this SGS4 IM willing to buy a black T-Mobile and not wait till the motomaker
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I have a motomaker one and I still went with all black. The only reason why I went the motomaker route was to get the 32gb version.

_MetalHead_ said:
I have a motomaker one and I still went with all black. The only reason why I went the motomaker route was to get the 32gb version.
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Ah yes unfortunately the att version doesn't work on T-Mobile so I have to go T-Mobile route

Coderedpl said:
You guys that switched went with the carrier version of the Developer?
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I have the carrier version. I believe the only difference between the two is that you can unlock the bootloader on the DE and it comes has 32Gb storage instead of 16Gb. From what I've read, all the specs are the same, otherwise.

I came from a gs4. Before that I had an og droid, gnex, gs3, note 2, and gs4.
I have been so happy with my dev edition vzw Moto x. It is the perfect phone. It doesn't even need roms, just root for gravitybox mods to quick toggles for me. I love the size and feel over my s4. There's something about the feel of the s4 that I always hated and I've come to find the feel and smaller size of the x to feel so much better. the speaker is much MUCH louder and the reception is better too. Stock android runs so much smoother on the x than touch wiz, cm, or paranoid android ran on the s4. And being able to pick up my phone or bump it or pull it out of my pocket and see the time and unlock is amazing. I don't think I could live without active display or touchless controls anymore. On my s4 I even bought the 3000mAh extended batteries and wasn't happy with battery life. With the Moto x, I make it 24 hours with 4.5 to 5.5 hours screen time and that's way better than the s4 at 3.5 hours. The Moto x with the new camera fix and voice cut off fix just seems so perfect to me. The camera short cut with the twisting motion is also very convenient. I'm currently running the newest tmobile build with the Verizon build.prop and I just love it. I've never had a phone this good. The display even though it's 720, blows away the s3's pentile matrix display and makes ur feel like a step up in resolution because of its rgb stripe. I even liked it more than the s4 display's odd matrix layout. It's the perfect phone in my opinion, I just didn't like the bigger phones

jimmypop13 said:
I came from a gs4. Before that I had an og droid, gnex, gs3, note 2, and gs4.
I have been so happy with my dev edition vzw Moto x. It is the perfect phone. It doesn't even need roms, just root for gravitybox mods to quick toggles for me. I love the size and feel over my s4. There's something about the feel of the s4 that I always hated and I've come to find the feel and smaller size of the x to feel so much better. the speaker is much MUCH louder and the reception is better too. Stock android runs so much smoother on the x than touch wiz, cm, or paranoid android ran on the s4. And being able to pick up my phone or bump it or pull it out of my pocket and see the time and unlock is amazing. I don't think I could live without active display or touchless controls anymore. On my s4 I even bought the 3000mAh extended batteries and wasn't happy with battery life. With the Moto x, I make it 24 hours with 4.5 to 5.5 hours screen time and that's way better than the s4 at 3.5 hours. The Moto x with the new camera fix and voice cut off fix just seems so perfect to me. The camera short cut with the twisting motion is also very convenient. I'm currently running the newest tmobile build with the Verizon build.prop and I just love it. I've never had a phone this good. The display even though it's 720, blows away the s3's pentile matrix display and makes ur feel like a step up in resolution because of its rgb stripe. I even liked it more than the s4 display's odd matrix layout. It's the perfect phone in my opinion, I just didn't like the bigger phones
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I'm telling you the more and more I read the less and less I want to wait for the Nexus 5

AndreaCristiano said:
So I gave searched for this and I want honest non biased answers how many SGS4 OWNERS made the wait h to MOTO X and what are your feelings ?
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switched from a verizon s4 to the dev edition on verizon and i love it
way better battery life
a lot smoother since it doesnt have touch wiz
but the one thing that the x cant compare on is the camera

Pocketnow Moto X vs Nexus 5!

http://youtu.be/_NHYYbleY7c

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http://youtu.be/_NHYYbleY7c
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People actually put these phones in the same category and compare them? Why?
Motorola X = dated hardware and overpriced. I don't care how much you can customize it. it's hardware doesn't compete with any modern smartphone. S4 Pro, in Fall 2013? pass.
it's hardware competes the with the Nexus 4 I guess, you could compare them, but at the price points again why bother.
crawlgsx said:
Was my tone poor, sure I'll agree and apologize to that. I personally do not find the Moto X in the class of the HTC One / GS4, let alone G2/N5. My opinion, but I could've worded it better/less argumentative. (based on personal real time usage, not JUST specs).
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So My apologies. That was a poor decision on my part, I do however stand by my opinions.

crawlgsx said:
People actually put these phones in the same category and compare them? Why?
Motorola X = dated hardware and overpriced. I don't care how much you can customize it. it's hardware doesn't compete with any modern smartphone. S4 Pro, in Fall 2013? pass.
it's hardware competes the with the Nexus 4 I guess, you could compare them, but at the price points again why bother.
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when you speak like that it is obvious you have never owned the MOTO X or actually used it for a length of time. Also it is obvious you didnt watch the video. PS I have owned all those phones( G2, S4 Note 2 etc ) and the MOTO X trumps them all even the Nexus 5 I just returned

AndreaCristiano said:
when you speak like that it is obvious you have never owned the MOTO X or actually used it for a length of time. Also it is obvious you didnt watch the video. PS I have owned all those phones( G2, S4 Note 2 etc ) and the MOTO X trumps them all even the Nexus 5 I just returned
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I don't really know what to say, you clearly have a biased opinion towards the MOTO X.
That said, Look at my sig. Does it look like I have not tried phones or have a base for my opinons? I did not purchase a MOTO X because I tried it for a few hours in the store and used a buddies and had no interest. It is pretty smooth for an S4 Pro I'll give it that. Battery and performance still cant touch a G2 and overall I am still left with no desire whatsoever to own one.
You can love it all you like, that is what choice is all about. To say it trumps a G2/N5 or even an HTC One/S4 is just plain biased crap. Sure it has it's +'s against each one, but trumps? Definitely not.

crawlgsx said:
I don't really know what to say, you clearly have a biased opinion towards the MOTO X.
That said, Look at my sig. Does it look like I have not tried phones or have a base for my opinons? I did not purchase a MOTO X because I tried it for a few hours in the store and used a buddies and had no interest. It is pretty smooth for an S4 Pro I'll give it that. Battery and performance still cant touch a G2 and overall I am still left with no desire whatsoever to own one.
You can love it all you like, that is what choice is all about. To say it trumps a G2/N5 or even an HTC One/S4 is just plain biased crap. Sure it has it's +'s against each one, but trumps? Definitely not.
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how is it biased? have you used those phones and compared and contrasted them? No you have not. I have and no matter the specs that spec whores continue to tout the moto X is smoother, more fluid and works all the time. The features it has trump all the gimmicky features from most of these other more powerful phones

AndreaCristiano said:
how is it biased? have you used those phones and compared and contrasted them? No you have not.
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crawlgsx said:
That said, Look at my sig. Does it look like I have not tried phones or have a base for my opinons? I did not purchase a MOTO X because I tried it for a few hours in the store and used a buddies and had no interest.
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Did you bother to read what I said? I HAVE used them and compared them. I own a G2 and N5 and have spent hours with the MOTO X. I don't own one because I find it quite inferior. It has some neat features, sure. But battery, performance, price, and value leave much to be desired.
Like I said it is all about choice. If you say YOU prefer it, than fine. But if you want to use words like "TRUMPS" when comparing the Moto X to a G2/N5/HTC One/S4 you better be prepared to have something to show for it other than your biased opinions of features and ignoring the fact that it is significantly slower with a subpar screen and average battery life (no where near G2/S4/NoteIII). then you throw in $480 vs $300 for 16gb. in the N5 battle... yeah there is no way the Moto X comes close at $180 more, let alone "trumps".

crawlgsx said:
Did you bother to read what I said? I HAVE used them and compared them. I own a G2 and N5 and have spent hours with the MOTO X. I don't own one because I find it quite inferior.
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thats fine but you can not call my opinion biased being that I came up with a different conclusion as you

Lol fellas it's all good you both have valid points. The Moto X is really loved, seems to me that anybody that owns that phone really likes it. But I'm not sure it"trumps" the HTC one, S4 and G2.
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crawlgsx said:
People actually put these phones in the same category and compare them? Why?
Motorola X = dated hardware and overpriced. I don't care how much you can customize it. it's hardware doesn't compete with any modern smartphone. S4 Pro, in Fall 2013? pass.
it's hardware competes the with the Nexus 4 I guess, you could compare them, but at the price points again why bother.
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True, but the moto X performs like a champ.
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The Moto X is a great phone, but I don't see spending $200 more for it.
It has good battery life, average camera, average build quality, average speaker, etc. (The nexus 5 is likely on par with all of it, better in some, worse in some). Lets be real, the key selling points for the moto X are the always listening feature, active notifications, and customizability. NOT the amazing hardware, low price, etc.
It has some unique software features, but I'm not too interested in any of them (the active notifications is cool, and only practical on an AMOLED screen).
If I was the average consumer, buying an on-contract phone I would consider both the $149 Nexus 5 and the $199 Moto X. Off-contract, I can't picture anybody in their right mind spending $550 for a moto x over $350 for a nexus 5 (I think side by side, nobody would choose the moto x for $200 more).
Some key points though, I am not an average consumer nor am I buying the phone on-contract.
Never the less, it's a fair comparison for a lot of people since most people are average consumers, and a fair amount will be looking at on-contract (maybe down payment price for t-mobile, don't know) phones exclusively.

really good video, brings up a lot of valid points
if they were the same price I'd still lean towards the nexus, however if Motorola had released the x at a similar 16gb-for-$350-unlocked months in advance I would have snagged one no question

barondebxl said:
Lol fellas it's all good you both have valid points. The Moto X is really loved, seems to me that anybody that owns that phone really likes it. But I'm not sure it"trumps" the HTC one, S4 and G2.
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True, but the moto X performs like a champ.
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Once again people come up to different choice or viewpoint. what bothers me is that if GOD forbid someone believes the MOTO X trumps those other phones specs or not this is the reaction they get. I posted this on the Nexus 5 forum because i sent mine back and this echoed my sentiments almost to the T so i figured it would be helpful for people one way or the other

bbedward said:
The Moto X is a great phone, but I don't see spending $200 more for it.
It has good battery life, average camera, average build quality, average speaker, etc. (The nexus 5 is likely on par with all of it, better in some, worse in some). Lets be real, the key selling points for the moto X are the always listening feature, active notifications, and customizability. NOT the amazing hardware, low price, etc.
It has some unique software features, but I'm not too interested in any of them (the active notifications is cool, and only practical on an AMOLED screen).
If I was the average consumer, buying an on-contract phone I would consider both the $149 Nexus 5 and the $199 Moto X. Off-contract, I can't picture anybody in their right mind spending $550 for a moto x over $350 for a nexus 5 (I think side by side, nobody would choose the moto x for $200 more).
Some key points though, I am not an average consumer nor am I buying the phone on-contract.
Never the less, it's a fair comparison for a lot of people since most people are average consumers, and a fair amount will be looking at on-contract (maybe down payment price for t-mobile, don't know) phones exclusively.
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Absolutely, right on the money.
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Moto X is just a big joke. Those hardware specs belong to before world war II era.

Is it just me, or does the dude in the video sound like he's trying to do a Ron Swanson impression?

AndreaCristiano said:
Once again people come up to different choice or viewpoint. what bothers me is that if GOD forbid someone believes the MOTO X trumps those other phones specs or not this is the reaction they get. I posted this on the Nexus 5 forum because i sent mine back and this echoed my sentiments almost to the T so i figured it would be helpful for people one way or the other
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Saying the Moto X TRUMPS the N5 is not a statement of opinion. You are stating it like fact.
You absolutely unequivocally can not say that at $180 more (16gb vs 16gb) the Moto X TRUMPS the N5 with how much slower it is and a severely inferior screen. Why does it trump the N5? Because of some features? I think not. I am sorry but that is just ridiculous.
Again is it a winner FOR YOU, OK. But trumps the N5? *laugh* Even at an even price point I personally would take the N5 all day long personally, but even then I could hardly call any of them trump.

caribouxda said:
Moto X is just a big joke. Those hardware specs belong to before world war II era.
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Specs aren't everything. If the Moto X is capable of providing a good user experience with the specs it has then it's fine for the audience it was intended for. The biggest problem with the Moto X isn't (wasn't) specs, it was it's price.
I know more than one person who I have a lot of respect for who prefers the Moto X to the N5 for personal reasons, and there's nothing wrong with that.

crawlgsx said:
Saying the Moto X TRUMPS the N5 is not a statement of opinion. You are stating it like fact.
You absolutely unequivocally can not say that at $180 more (16gb vs 16gb) the Moto X TRUMPS the N5 with how much slower it is and a severely inferior screen. Why does it trump the N5? Because of some features? I think not. I am sorry but that is just ridiculous.
Again is it a winner FOR YOU, OK. But trumps the N5? *laugh* Even at an even price point I personally would take the N5 all day long personally, but even then I could hardly call any of them trump.
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No your assertion that my conclusion is ridiculous is what is ridiculous SIR! The moto X has a better in hand feel, better software, fast as any other phone N5 included, software just works and the added features touchless controls, active notifications, moto assist , moto connect are truly usable and value added features unlike the other phones. You people who are caught up in the specs are exactly what these manufactures want this way they can convince you in 6 months you need a new device! The usability and functionality of the MOTO X outweighs any spec for me and many others it TRUMPS those phones. Just ask Metalhead or others whom have both the N5 and Moto

yup price is moto x's big downfall
given they are now going for $99 on contact they missed a big opportunity with the launch price imo

MaxCarnage said:
Specs aren't everything. If the Moto X is capable of providing a good user experience with the specs it has then it's fine for the audience it was intended for. The biggest problem with the Moto X isn't (wasn't) specs, it was it's price.
I know more than one person who I have a lot of respect for who prefers the Moto X to the N5 for personal reasons, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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Us android fans are very funny. When it comes to iphone we attack iphone users by mentioning specs. When it comes to our devices we say specs are not important. Yes specs are very important and yes it was overpriced because it had crappy processor.

MaxCarnage said:
Specs aren't everything. If the Moto X is capable of providing a good user experience with the specs it has then it's fine for the audience it was intended for. The biggest problem with the Moto X isn't (wasn't) specs, it was it's price.
I know more than one person who I have a lot of respect for who prefers the Moto X to the N5 for personal reasons, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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Thank you and i will say this about the price, for me I am willing to pay that extra 100+ because it is assembled in the USA and its an american company giving americans jobs

Any former S4 users jump ship to the X?

I've had my Verizon GS4 since late summer, and while it's a nice device, it's not as smooth as my GS3 was. No matter what ROM I use or what update I'm running, it still feels "laggy" a lot of times. My S3 was butter all around, never had a single hangup with it. However, I do enjoy the display on the S4, it's fantastic.
But, times are changing and I'm no longer picky about things as I used to be. I'm now looking for a device that's smooth, fast, and reliable. I'd also like to have a phone that's just a tad smaller, trying to carry the S4 with a case on my duty gear sucks sometimes.
I've been eyeing the Moto X since it came out and played with it in the store from time to time, seems really nice. I've bounced between the idea of getting the X or Droid Maxx, but it seems the X performs better.
Anyone here that used to have an S4 that went to the X? Thoughts?

Came from a S4...HTC One, Moto X, then iPhone (wat), DROID MAXX, and now Moto X. Yes call it abnormal but I like trying new things. Let me tell you, I normally don't go back to the same device twice but the Moto X is the first phone to do that to me. It's a fantastic phone for everyday use.
S4 was jank central, HTC One had, in my opinion, a well optimized Sense skin but terrible functionality on top of Android. Went to Moto X to try it out as I was skeptical if it could run well with its mid range specs. Hands down the best Android experience. Useful features such as Active Display and Touch less control is a great and useful thing to have.
Being adventurous and Ocd as I was, I wanted to compare it with the iPhone 5...let's not go there. Lasted 2 days until I went to a Droid MAXX.
Droid MAXX is just as smooth coupled with the same Moto X experience but the feel and ergonomics compared to the Moto X is unmatched.
And now I'm currently typing this from a Moto Made Moto X. My god is this thing a god send. So smooth and so efficient with Motorola's software optimization.
Do yourself a favor and switch to the Moto X. It has cured my flashing and device switching OCD for now.
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I jumped ship. I bought the S4 on release day and even though, on paper, it's superior spec wise it's nowhere near as smooth as my moto x. The only things I miss from my S4 is the camera, screen and the ir blaster. The feel, active notifications, and touchless controls trump all the things the S4 offered.

I did. I had the S4 for a bit but as soon as I found out about the Moto X and kept reading about it, I had to give it a try. Glad I did. It's much snappier and overall has a better feel in the hand then the S4 ever did.
The only thing I miss from the S4 is the awesome camera and a bit more dev support, there's definitely a lot more roms for the S4. But quite honestly there isn't much needed on this phone, it's awesome out of the box and with simply having xposed framework and some of those modules, you're set!

Well, I just found out that with the S4 on 4.3 (MJ7, etc), you cannot flash another kernel with Safestrap, you're locked into the stock kernel. I was hoping I could at least flash a different kernel to help with the lag issues, but that's not possible now.
Making the jump to the X more enticing, now.

I jumped and couldn't be happier!
First phone ever with "lower specs" but a much better experience (and battery life!)

I'm in the middle of considering it . I *LOVED* my Galaxy S 3, it worked great, then I upgraded to the S4 when it was released, signal strength never seemed as strong as with the S3 and I hoped a radio update would fix that, it never did...not to mention the weird storage partitioning they have (only 9gb available to the user on a 16gb device..da hell?)
When the Moto X price was reduced I bit the bullet as I had been tempted to buy it for quite awhile and that was the final straw, I purchased the Verizon Dev Edition, so far the screen is great, the speaker is AMAZING, and the battery life seems great!
I see a few of you have missed the camera from the S4, I was doing comparison shots yesterday with the S4 running CM11 (I know AOSP camera usually doesn't get as much love as stock), but the pictures looked pretty good on both phones to me, I actually preferred the Moto X versions on 9/10 pictures.

Can you only buy the Dev Edition from Motorola directly? If I go with the X, it will be the Dev Edition.

I'll be able to compare soon - I have an S4 for my work phone and my new moto arrives tomorrow. I love android, but wtf did Samsung do to make it so laggy? I can't flash it as its a work phone, so am stuck. Even the iPhone 5 feels fresh compared to it...!

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Can you only buy the Dev Edition from Motorola directly? If I go with the X, it will be the Dev Edition.
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Yeah
Either that, or websites like swappa

I switched last month to the MotoX from the S4... Haven't looked back. I like the software out of the box for the X. I even prefer it to CM11 that I was running on my S4. As a matter of fact I may be a dedicated Motorola (non-"droid") customer. I like what they did with the software from top to bottom.

Dusty Rhodes said:
I switched last month to the MotoX from the S4... Haven't looked back. I like the software out of the box for the X. I even prefer it to CM11 that I was running on my S4...
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Agreed, I fully expected the X to become my backup phone, just in case anything happened to my S4, but now I'm just selling the S4. It doesn't even matter that my subsidized X doesn't have custom recovery, of course you won't have that problem with the Dev Edition.

So far its the Samsung thats leading in Android updates.....Moto X is behind.

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So far its the Samsung thats leading in Android updates.....Moto X is behind.
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You mean 4.4.2 only to Note 3 owners specifically in Poland!
I dunno, I'm posting on a .com here and my X is running 4.4.

Had an s4 the day it came out. I also have a HTC one and lg g2. Just picked up the moto x Dev edition over Xmas and as a true power switcher I'm hooked. You won't be disappointed.
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I to am a former user of a GS4 , and before that was the HTC one .
Like some people here, i also like to try new gadgets, and i also had gs3, nokia lumia, htx 8x, but mainly i use in my day to day 2 phones, iPhone 5s and now the moto X . I still have my GS4 and the nexus 5, but the moto x is overall better, nothing on the papper can tell you that, it just is.. the iphone i still have, but it's been since GS3 that apple phones are not my go to phone, they are the one i leave in the car or at home when i don't want to carry 2 phones, but they are light , small, and if you don't use it much it last 4 days with a single charge.
I am now going back to GS4, just because i got bored with the moto x, but i'm sure i will be back to it in no time, and there is no good reason to use my gs4 back, coz the moto x reception is much better (4g all the time in my region, with galaxy it keeps switching between 4g and H+ all the time), also the speaker is much louder and clear that i actually use the speakerphone during a call, and i can't even say its beacause the camera, coz i don't use it that much, or the SD card too, 16gb is more then enought for my usage, so no logic in going back to GS4.
This year the story will be the same i guess, i will be buying the GS5 , and be waiting for the release of the New Moto X .

syntrix said:
You mean 4.4.2 only to Note 3 owners specifically in Poland!
I dunno, I'm posting on a .com here and my X is running 4.4.
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Yeah it started to roll from Poland....I though GS4 also rolling update

s4 to moto x
I had the s4 for awhile. it was a good phone, I hated touch wiz though. it was laggish and gimmicky. I rooted it and went to cyangenmod. the phone was good, no serious problems. I just recently got the moto x. its honestly the best experienced I've had. at first I was a littlie nervous with the "mid range specs". but from personal use you would never guess it had "mid range specs". it is buttery smooth. and the screen was pretty good to. The battery life is surprisingly good, considering it only had a 2200 mAh battery. the only thing that isn't that good is the camera. but it still does take good pics. just not as good as my s4.

damn, must have been the rom I was running on my S4, because my X takes better pictures.
Photo guy with dslr's for like 20 years... yeah, I'm that guy. I'm not even fat, lol.

Moto X is solid as stock. GS4 is best used with a GPE ROM IMO, even if left at 4.2 with safestrap. Add Google Experience launcher, root and use GravityBox to either the Moto X or GS4 and you have a very similar experience that is epic. The X certainly does an outstanding delivery with the human integration. If screen size matters to you, choose accordingly. It is a very close call! Pretty amazing really because the X has the CPU of the GS3, but with the same GPU as the GS4. Moto won my trust back when they delivered the X after having lost it when they left the Atrix 4G in the dust.

[Q] Worth switching from a Moto X 2014?

Hi all,
I currently own a Moto X 2014 and I'm considering buying a Nexus 6. Does anyone who owns the Nexus 6 think it's worth the upgrade from the Moto X 2014? I know the Nexus 6 has better specs, but the devices look near enough identical apart from size obviously. I miss my fast Nexus updates which is the main thing pulling me towards the N6.

Had the X 2014 for about a month. Miss the development community of the nexus. If you can handle the size then its an all around better phone. No regrets since switching.

I have a N6 in my cart and a X 2014 in my hand. If moto suite were able to work on the N6 I would click on process order now. But I don't think I could live without it.

Thanks for the replies. The Moto suite doesn't bother me too much I could easily live without it. The size of the Nexus 6 is a bit of a concern but I'm sure I'd get used to it. I think I'll sit on this over the weekend before making a decision. I do miss the Nexus developer community.

Diesel779 said:
Does anyone who owns the Nexus 6 think it's worth the upgrade from the Moto X 2014?
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Yes.

I had the 2014 Moto X and returned it for the Nexus 6. I too was concerned about the size of the Nexus but its really not that bad. I don't miss the Moto X at all. The fast updates and Dev community makes the Nexus a clear winner IMO.

Diesel779 said:
Thanks for the replies. The Moto suite doesn't bother me too much I could easily live without it. The size of the Nexus 6 is a bit of a concern but I'm sure I'd get used to it. I think I'll sit on this over the weekend before making a decision. I do miss the Nexus developer community.
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The size is what made me leave nexus. I had nexus 4 then nexus 5. Now I am on HTC m8. Glad I didn't jump to nexus 6. I will wait for the next nexus;if there are any.

badboy47 said:
The size is what made me leave nexus. I had nexus 4 then nexus 5. Now I am on HTC m8. Glad I didn't jump to nexus 6. I will wait for the next nexus;if there are any.
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I had an M8 too, loved it. I only got rid of it because of the camera really. I'm almost certainly going to get the M9 or HIMA as it's being called.

Diesel779 said:
I had an M8 too, loved it. I only got rid of it because of the camera really. I'm almost certainly going to get the M9 or HIMA as it's being called.
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I had the M8 too but it bothered me how tall it is and how the camera was worse than my M7. I ordered Moto X and it was almost $622 with leather back and I could not justify getting a bad camera and small battery for that price. I returned my Moto X 2014 (I've had 2) and jumped to Nexus 6. No regrets at all. It is every bit Motorola and Nexus. Miss the Moto Voice at times but that is the only thing I miss. Just my .02 cents.

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I had the M8 too but it bothered me how tall it is and how the camera was worse than my M7. I ordered Moto X and it was almost $622 with leather back and I could not justify getting a bad camera and small battery for that price. I returned my Moto X 2014 (I've had 2) and jumped to Nexus 6. No regrets at all. It is every bit Motorola and Nexus. Miss the Moto Voice at times but that is the only thing I miss. Just my .02 cents.
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Thanks. Yeah the M8 was a bit tall for me too. Isn't the camera in the Nexus 6 the same as the one in the Moto X 2014 apart from the ois?

Diesel779 said:
Thanks. Yeah the M8 was a bit tall for me too. Isn't the camera in the Nexus 6 the same as the one in the Moto X 2014 apart from the ois?
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They made M8 like iPhone and I dislike iPhone with a passion (trying to not use the hate word) lol
No, the camera module is completely different.
Moto X has an older version of Sony sensor (IMX135) that is 5 piece I believe and has f2.4. It's a pretty old sensor that I don't think anyone else is using but I may be wrong.
Nexus 6 has the same sensor (IMX214) as OnePlus One and a lot of other 2014 phones with 6 piece lens and f2.0 for wider aperture and better low light pics. OIS helps too of course. They need to work on their software but that's a whole different can of worms.
Motorola did something right with the X by going with Sony sensor but they picked a very old sensor that may have been laying around just like they did with the processor on 360. I have no complains about my 360 but I'm just making a point. I don't know why they do it but I am seeing a pattern here?

noobsquared said:
They made M8 like iPhone and I dislike iPhone with a passion (trying to not use the hate word) lol
No, the camera module is completely different.
Moto X has an older version of Sony sensor (IMX135) that is 5 piece I believe and has f2.4. It's a pretty old sensor that I don't think anyone else is using but I may be wrong.
Nexus 6 has the same sensor (IMX214) as OnePlus One and a lot of other 2014 phones with 6 piece lens and f2.0 for wider aperture and better low light pics. OIS helps too of course. They need to work on their software but that's a whole different can of worms.
Motorola did something right with the X by going with Sony sensor but they picked a very old sensor that may have been laying around just like they did with the processor on 360. I have no complains about my 360 but I'm just making a point. I don't know why they do it but I am seeing a pattern here?
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Thanks for the clarification. Do you think Lollipop will bring any software improvements to the Moto X? I'm close to pulling the trigger on a Nexus 6. I almost purchased a OnePlus in the week but decided I'd rather not go down that road. So, for me it's either stick with the Moto X until the M9 is released or get a Nexus 6. The only thing that slightly concerns me about the Nexus 6 is its size. However, I'm sure I'd adjust.

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Thanks for the clarification. Do you think Lollipop will bring any software improvements to the Moto X? I'm close to pulling the trigger on a Nexus 6. I almost purchased a OnePlus in the week but decided I'd rather not go down that road. So, for me it's either stick with the Moto X until the M9 is released or get a Nexus 6. The only thing that slightly concerns me about the Nexus 6 is its size. However, I'm sure I'd adjust.
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You're very welcome. Instead of saying thanks, better thing to do is hit the thanks/thumbs up that helps with other person's repo and gets the point across.
Anyways, I used the X with Lollipop and didn't see much difference. Don't get me wrong, it is not a bad camera and software is pretty decent but it is just not there yet. Being an old sensor, I think it has it's limitations on top of software. Go to a store like TMobile, ATT or Sprint and play with one before pulling the trigger. It feels just like X, just bigger IMHO.
I actually lioe the dimple and sides better on N6 since X is almost too skinny and slippery.

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You're very welcome. Instead of saying thanks, better thing to do is hit the thanks/thumbs up that helps with other person's repo and gets the point across.
Anyways, I used the X with Lollipop and didn't see much difference. Don't get me wrong, it is not a bad camera and software is pretty decent but it is just not there yet. Being an old sensor, I think it has it's limitations on top of software. Go to a store like TMobile, ATT or Sprint and play with one before pulling the trigger. It feels just like X, just bigger IMHO.
I actually lioe the dimple and sides better on N6 since X is almost too skinny and slippery.
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For some reason I'm limited to 8 thanks a day and I've already used my 8 today. I'll be sure to click thanks on the posts you've helped me with tomorrow.

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For some reason I'm limited to 8 thanks a day and I've already used my 8 today. I'll be sure to click thanks on the posts you've helped me with tomorrow.
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Haha, no worries man. I was just making sure you know. Feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I had both at one point and i picked N6 but YMMV. Just play with N6 and see if you like it. I know, I am not going back to X just because N6 is every bit X and some more IMHO. Be sure to play with one at a store first if you are concerned about the size.

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Haha, no worries man. I was just making sure you know. Feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I had both at one point and i picked N6 but YMMV. Just play with N6 and see if you like it. I know, I am not going back to X just because N6 is every bit X and some more IMHO. Be sure to play with one at a store first if you are concerned about the size.
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Yeah, I'm going to go to the Vodafone store tomorrow here i the UK, they should have them in. If I like the size I'll definitely pull the trigger. I love Nexus devices ad the de community they have.

Diesel779 said:
Yeah, I'm going to go to the Vodafone store tomorrow here i the UK, they should have them in. If I like the size I'll definitely pull the trigger. I love Nexus devices ad the de community they have.
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The size takes about a week to get used to. It also depends on what your previous phone was. To me, I started becoming comfortable after a day or two because the phone I had prior to this was 5.5.
Once you use it for a week, you won't want to go back and your view on phones will look different especially to phones that don't have wide screens
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The size takes about a week to get used to. It also depends on what your previous phone was. To me, I started becoming comfortable after a day or two because the phone I had prior to this was 5.5.
Once you use it for a week, you won't want to go back and your view on phones will look different especially to phones that don't have wide screens
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I did have a G3 earlier this year and I was happy with the size of that device, so the Nexus 6 should suit me. I really miss owning a Nexus phone and all the perks that come with it.

I've played with a Nexus 6 in store today and the size is fine. However, now I've got Lollipop on my Moto X 2014 I'm even more torn.

Maybe you should ask this same question in the moto x forum. Both sides of the fence...

Best phone to get next? (Small)

Hey Guys,
Just wanted your advice on what phone I should get next. I Love my moto x Dev ed, its the best phone I ever had but its time for an upgrade.
One of the things I loved about it most is the size. Although the new moto x improved on a lot of stuff I don't like how much bigger it is. Its really hard to find a good/better phone in the same size range. Any suggestions? Anyone who upgraded to something else?
I know the main to contenders are galaxy alpha and sony xperia z3c. However, with the samsung I don't want to deal with touchwiz.. (although i suppose I could root and put cm or a custom rom?) . I really like the z3c and it has great reviews BUT the forums have a lot of people complaining about the glass back spontaneously cracking. Also hearing about sony leaving the smartphone market has me worries about future support and updates.
With either of these and others I will also miss the moto x features like active display and moto voice.. Not to mention, I've had a great experience with motorola customer service and warranty replacements/RMA and I'm not confident about getting the same from sony if the glass cracks or something happens.
Which leans me back toward moto.. but I don't want to go bigger. I was also considering the saygus V2. But don't know about their support, updates, and real hands on use reviews..Not to mention its not cheap haha.
So you see my dilemna? I think I might just have to compromise and go with the new moto x and just get used to the size. Thoughts?

I am in the exact same predicament. I bought the 2014 moto x and returned it due to size.
The z3c looks like a good small phone but the glass reminds me of the nexus 4 and it will scratch without a case. Plus Sony may exit the smartphone industry. Updates are going to be slow as well.
The other ones are stripped down versions of there flag ships.
The iPhone 6 is not too much bigger and feels good in the hand but iOS is too limited for my taste.
The nexus 5 is not that much bigger but certainly not as nice feeling as the moto x
Really the smaller phones are going away. So if you are going to increase in size I would go with the 2014 moto x

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I am in the exact same predicament. I bought the 2014 moto x and returned it due to size.
The z3c looks like a good small phone but the glass reminds me of the nexus 4 and it will scratch without a case. Plus Sony may exit the smartphone industry. Updates are going to be slow as well.
The other ones are stripped down versions of there flag ships.
The iPhone 6 is not too much bigger and feels good in the hand but iOS is too limited for my taste.
The nexus 5 is not that much bigger but certainly not as nice feeling as the moto x
Really the smaller phones are going away. So if you are going to increase in size I would go with the 2014 moto x
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Thanks! I had a nexus 4 and it was fine but I did keep it in a case. I guess I'd have to do the same for the z3c.. it looks pretty sleek so I would've like to rock it without a case. Still want it even with all the complaints of bad experiences.
And yeah, definitely not switching to iOS. I can consider nexus 5 I suppose. Its sad how limited the smaller options are. I'll probably end up going with 2014 moto x..

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I am in the exact same predicament. I bought the 2014 moto x and returned it due to size.
The z3c looks like a good small phone but the glass reminds me of the nexus 4 and it will scratch without a case. Plus Sony may exit the smartphone industry. Updates are going to be slow as well.
The other ones are stripped down versions of there flag ships.
The iPhone 6 is not too much bigger and feels good in the hand but iOS is too limited for my taste.
The nexus 5 is not that much bigger but certainly not as nice feeling as the moto x
Really the smaller phones are going away. So if you are going to increase in size I would go with the 2014 moto x
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motorola should keep't the size of moto x and just upgrade hardware inside. like iphone 4/4s 5/5s.
that is the big problem of android. you see every new phone different design. even it is great design, they upgrade it with ****.
why i love my moto x and dont want upgrade?
- every possible rom is available, i cant use android without root
- good build quality, after 1 year of use, no scratches on screen (never used any screen protection or case)
- battery is enough for me for all possible scenarios.
- 2 port usb charger
- clean system as possible (even though I am a big fan of htc sense)
- never had any problem openin a webpage (yes that is another reason why people buy smartphones )
- speaker and audio codec quality
- useful functions without any gimmick
and size, use it without dropping it. yes this is a good feel
i'm watching new smartphones but none of them exciting me (Z3 Compact, Galaxy Alpha, X 2014)
thanks to moto x i have first time not changed my android phone more than 1 year. (using android since g1) that is biggest reason why i love moto x 2013 :good:

I too am starting to look for a replacement for my XT1060. I love it, but will need something new soon. I was very hopeful for the Nexus 6, but it absolutely too big. The Moto X 2014 looks nice but after getting a Moto Maker 2013 edition and using the Chinese Middleman to unlock the bootloader, and Verizon not offering the Pure edition, it's a no go. Droid Turbo was nice in hand, but it has little hope of rooting or bootloader unlocks (seems to be little demand), and it didn't seem as smooth as the Nexus 6 that my GF has. I held an HTC One M8 the other day and some of the developments for the M9 look nice, but I've never had an HTC device. I would need to be able to root/unlock and get as close to pure Android like the Moto X as possible. It is bigger than the Moto X 2013, but not as big as the Nexus 6.
I have a Nexus 7 2013, so I don't really need a big phone. I've used my GF's N6 a few times and it is just awkward as a phone. Too big for one hand and almost too small for two. Part of it is probably me forcing myself to dislike it so I don't cave and just go buy one.

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Thanks! I had a nexus 4 and it was fine but I did keep it in a case. I guess I'd have to do the same for the z3c.. it looks pretty sleek so I would've like to rock it without a case. Still want it even with all the complaints of bad experiences.
And yeah, definitely not switching to iOS. I can consider nexus 5 I suppose. Its sad how limited the smaller options are. I'll probably end up going with 2014 moto x..
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Here's a page that shows the size difference between the phones you mentioned. The 2013 X is much smaller than everything else you mentioned, the 2014 is biggest.

I'm getting a free upgrade/replacement to moto x 2014 under warranty from motorola. I'm deciding if I should just keep it since they're giving me it, or sell it and get something else. Maybe I'll just buy a 2013 dev ed again. I really had no complaints about it.. It wasn't slow or laggy or anything really.. or a nexus 5.. hmm.

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Here's a page that shows the size difference between the phones you mentioned. The 2013 X is much smaller than everything else you mentioned, the 2014 is biggest.
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Thanks, I was actually looking at size comparisons earlier. The z3c is actually the same or even barely smaller than 2013 x actually. and alpha is close as well. I might just take the plunge for the xperia z3c and be careful with it...

I'd buy a Galaxy Alpha if verizon had it. Actually verizon has no new phones that are as small as the 1st Gen moto X, since they also didn't get the Xperia Z3 compact.
Samsung is not my favorite, but I'm really hoping someone this year addresses this with a smaller phone with excellent build quality and some updated specs - preferably either Motorola or HTC. Although, I guess I can survive with my 1st Gen moto X for another year. Once Lollipop rolls out for moto x 1st gen maybe I won't care as much =)

I keep hoping that Moto will add something that's between 4.7" and 5" to the lineup that still has Active Display and Moto Voice. Doesn't have to have Moto Maker, doesn't have to have top of the line specs (slightly better than the Moto X 2013 would be good). An HD screen would be nice. Obviously AMOLED is a requirement to do the active display. Heck, I'd even take no LTE. Price point between the Moto X and the Moto G would be fine.
I doubt this would happen as the phone would compete directly with the Moto G 2014, but I can hope.

Since none of the current small handset options seem worthwhile, I'm thinking I may just stick with the moto x 2013 for now and wait to see what comes out in the next few months. Hopefully we'll have a good alternative soon. In the mean time this should hold out. And I agree, won't feel the need as much once we get lollipop.
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me too
Keeping my moto x 2013 Dev with KitKat and hoping for a smaller moto x 2015.
Also, tweeted the thread to @motorola may they hear our voice

I'm sticking with my Moto X, although the Nexus 6 gets more and more tempting. I find myself missing my Note 2 for its screen size, but not much else.

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Keeping my moto x 2013 Dev with KitKat and hoping for a smaller moto x 2015.
Also, tweeted the thread to @motorola may they hear our voice
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Thanks! When the new one first came out there was also a huge thread with many people disappointed by the larger size. I highly doubt they would go backwards/smaller now though..

I love this phone but I too am itching to move on. I have told myself I'm only buying a phone that launches with lollipop ? so far I haven't seen anything.

I went from nexus 4 to 2014 X to Sony z3 compact to finally 2013 X.... I made the best choice I think!

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I went from nexus 4 to 2014 X to Sony z3 compact to finally 2013 X.... I made the best choice I think!
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Wait really? You moved backwards, in a sense? For size/comfort or what? What made you give up the z3c?
I went from nexus 4 to 2013 x. And I'm worried about the future, 2013 x is good for now but we'll probably need something else within this year..

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Wait really? You moved backwards, in a sense? For size/comfort or what? What made you give up the z3c?
I went from nexus 4 to 2013 x. And I'm worried about the future, 2013 x is good for now but we'll probably need something else within this year..
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Yeah a bit of a step back but the 2014 X was way too big, the z3c was nice but screen sensitivity was too high, it would register these Phantom tap or slides. Drove me nuts. The charging part also sucked with the little cover. I had the magnetic charger but darn thing never stayed on properly if I touched phone at all. 4.7 screens are sweet spot. I do hope someone comes out with a suitable replacement but in meantime the 2013 X is best out there for me.

Personally I hate the route phone manufacturers are taking with 5+ inch screens. Soon the word mobile will lose it's defined meaning. It's OK if you have a carry bag but if you use your pocket it becomes uncomfortable nor practical or "bonner" like lol.
Moto X 2013 has a 4.7 screen and the smallest body of any other phone with same screen size. A winning combination! Whoever takes the same approach next will get my cash until then Moto X will be the only phone I will use. Anything above 5.2 is just dumb and calling it a mobile is an insult imo.

My thoughts exactly. I can't stand the direction phone manufacturers are moving in. I'm holding on tightly to this phone until another small phone comes out with good specs.