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A Truly Amazing Review of Moto X (From A Pure Nexus Fan)

Mr. Hildenbrand here has wrote a really amazing review on the Motorola X from the perspective of a true Nexus user who is tired of the extra laggy useless features offered from other Android manufacturers. Someone who looks at the Nexus 4 as the best Android phones to date** and writes from what we're really looking for. It sold me pretty well, but anything's too soon to say now until the Nexus 5 comes out.
http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-fans-take-moto-x
tl;dr: If you love the Nexus 4 for what it is, you might love the Moto X more
**until the Motorola X

While I will agree that it's nice to see another phone with almost no bloat, and the Active Notifications feature is actually quite useful for those who have an AMOLED display, I don't really know that these extra features of the Moto X are worth paying more than twice the price of a Nexus 4 for. There is also the fact that the Nexus 4 is almost a year old, so to see another phone that rivals it in the reviewers' opinion isn't too surprising.
While I'm still in the "new phone" phase, I'm hoping my Nexus 4 continues to impress me as much as it does now.

Well they still haven't released the Off-Contract version of the device, so still not sure of the price on that. But if the price is the same, then there's no reason to get the Moto X on contract for 200 as opposed to the Nexus off contract for 200.

yahoowizard said:
Well they still haven't released the Off-Contract version of the device, so still not sure of the price on that. But if the price is the same, then there's no reason to get the Moto X on contract for 200 as opposed to the Nexus off contract for 200.
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As a baseline, Rogers in Canada is selling the Moto X for $549 off-contract. While that isn't necessarily what it will cost in the States, I'm sure it will be pretty close. Heck, on a 2-year term Rogers is selling it for less than AT&T ($169)

LG G2 or the Moto X

Since more people already have the Moto X , Im wondering have anyone played with the LG G2.. Im contemplating between the two on which one I should get...

Tough choice. I am going to compare them together on Friday. The moto x is really sweet though.
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LG G2. Everybody here on the Moto X forums will tell you that. We all hate our phones.

I will be there Friday to play also, if not just to get an idea of the next Nexus hardware. I have to say though, the X is the best out of the box experience I have ever had.
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[email protected] said:
I will be there Friday to play also, if not just to get an idea of the next Nexus hardware. I have to say though, the X is the best out of the box experience I have ever had.
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Im def going to play with the LG G2 as well, and see... I figured I would ask since a lot of people have already got their hands on the Moto X for more than a week...

Don't sweat it. Some people around here are stressing over root, kind of has the whole Moto X board being mean . Either way, I have a really hard time believing that the LG g2 will be able to outpace this phone. It really sounds crazy but in telling you this phone is something else.
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Easy choice for me. I'm done with shiny plastic and really ugly ui
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[email protected] said:
Don't sweat it. Some people around here are stressing over root, kind of has the whole Moto X board being mean . Either way, I have a really hard time believing that the LG g2 will be able to outpace this phone. It really sounds crazy but in telling you this phone is something else.
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Do you or anyone have an opinion regarding the Moto X as a device to get over the HTC One or Note 2?

Depends what you want. Basically stock Android, great speed, good form factor = Moto X. You want higher specs for some reason, you enjoy the G2's design with buttons on the back, and the size of the device, get the G2.

alhadee12 said:
Do you or anyone have an opinion regarding the Moto X as a device to get over the HTC One or Note 2?
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The note, in my opinion is just too big, and I hate touchwiz. The one is a nice phone, the Google Edition is way better in my opinion. I like AOSP, not a fan of skinning, at all. The MOTOROLA X is really a great phone straight out of the box.
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Yazzinit said:
Depends what you want. Basically stock Android, great speed, good form factor = Moto X. You want higher specs for some reason, you enjoy the G2's design with buttons on the back, and the size of the device, get the G2.
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I would like to give the Moto X a try because of the stock look and that the size is not too big or small. The specs do open up my eyes on the G2 and if I decide on that I could always switch to a different launcher. This is a tough decision.
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The note, in my opinion is just too big, and I hate touchwiz. The one is a nice phone, the Google Edition is way better in my opinion. I like AOSP, not a fan of skinning, at all. The MOTOROLA X is really a great phone straight out of the box.
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I utilize the Note for business because, the S-Pen allows me to do some things when I'm out recruiting. But, I've used the iPhone 5 at times as my daily driver and want to switch totally to android.

I'd check out more reviews of the G2 then. Personally, I'm not sure what higher specs bring, which is the point of the Moto X. Other high spec phones provide nothing substantially better. Some lag even right out of the box, sacrifice battery life, or provide no real higher terms of performance in terms of gaming.
These aren't actual computers, despite what they do. People aren't running AutoCAD and need an i7 processor. Why these high specs other than ego boosts, I don't know. I'd maybe assess WHY you want the G2's specs. What purpose are they actually serving you? The Moto X and its "inferior" specs runs 100% smooth out of the box, has high gaming performance, and great battery life.

Yazzinit said:
I'd check out more reviews of the G2 then. Personally, I'm not sure what higher specs bring, which is the point of the Moto X. Other high spec phones provide nothing substantially better. Some lag even right out of the box, sacrifice battery life, or provide no real higher terms of performance in terms of gaming.
These aren't actual computers, despite what they do. People aren't running AutoCAD and need an i7 processor. Why these high specs other than ego boosts, I don't know. I'd maybe assess WHY you want the G2's specs. What purpose are they actually serving you? The Moto X and its "inferior" specs runs 100% smooth out of the box, has high gaming performance, and great battery life.
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I'm just thinking it will allow me to run my apps more efficiently and quicker. I've been using iOS (iPhone 5) as my daily driver and the Note 2 for business because I'm a coach. I want to move to android totally and from what your saying the Moto X will be the way to go.

I've had it for 1 week today, and it's been faster than I expected. I'm coming from a Verizon Samsung Galaxy S3 and this is light years better. Stock S3, Touchwiz was too annoying for me. Pulling down the notification bar and having the quick toggles scroll each time (thanks!), to just the useless features, it was annoying. I installed different ROMs, which I guess is fine, but eventually they'd need to be updated. That's more time I have to take to back things up, wipe everything, flash, and restore. I might be nitpicking, but it's still an annoyance. Not to mention that many of these ROMs have glitches, no matter how popular they are: AOSP camera problems, GPS locking issues, etc.
I've had 0 problems with the Moto X after 1 week. The screen PPI is the same as the S3, but looks way better since it's not pentile. To me, it seems not only brighter and more vivid, but just less "blah." I much prefer Android's customization over iOS, but that's a personal preference. Maybe check out a local store to play with the Moto X. Doesn't have to be your carrier, since I'm not sure if VZW stores have it in yet, but AT&T sure does.

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I'd check out more reviews of the G2 then. Personally, I'm not sure what higher specs bring, which is the point of the Moto X. Other high spec phones provide nothing substantially better. Some lag even right out of the box, sacrifice battery life, or provide no real higher terms of performance in terms of gaming.
These aren't actual computers, despite what they do. People aren't running AutoCAD and need an i7 processor. Why these high specs other than ego boosts, I don't know. I'd maybe assess WHY you want the G2's specs. What purpose are they actually serving you? The Moto X and its "inferior" specs runs 100% smooth out of the box, has high gaming performance, and great battery life.
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Android phones have "better" specs than any other OS because it lacks optimization. I'm not saying Android is bad but the more platforms you run a OS on the more raw power you need to push it. With all these different resolutions, cpu, gpu, ram ect it makes it impossible to optimize beyond a certain point. That's why iPhone, blackberry, and Windows phone all run so smooth.... All the phones that run their OSs have almost identical specs. Now the Moto X is more optimized so can run amazing with lower specs which is awesome, but the downside is you could possibly wait a lot longer for any updates because of all the special things going on behind the scenes that they need to tweak from the AOSP.
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I'm definitely going to check it out because I think it's time to step away from iOS. It may take getting use to, but I'm sure I'll managing. Your info has been very helpful. I do a lot of group texting to my players. Is that available in the stock app?
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I'm learning some new things here, but as I stated before I will definitely go into Verizon today and check out the Moto X.

It is, just used it last night

alhadee12 said:
I'm just thinking it will allow me to run my apps more efficiently and quicker. I've been using iOS (iPhone 5) as my daily driver and the Note 2 for business because I'm a coach. I want to move to android totally and from what your saying the Moto X will be the way to go.
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if you look at reviews of the X vs htc one gs4 or other phones the x runs apps often faster. As many have said previously, specs aren't the big deciding faster on whether a phone runs faster with apps or many things.
here is a short youtube video showing benchmark of HTC one and then running apps comparison. Both phones are bery similar even though HTC one has far superior specs and benchmarks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmU7YKoC5Is

Why on earth would you want the buttons on the back of your phone (G2)? I don't understand how that idea even left the boardroom.

Well, I finally went and played with the LG G2 and I think I will go with the Moto X if and when verizon comes out with the 32gb...
My reasons:
1. Its way to much to change on the LG G2 once you root it
a.bloatware, notification menu,buttons that does the same thing that comes stock with the phone,the buttons are def awkward on the back
a.Moto X comes pretty much perfect.
2. Verizon murdered this device with bloat over 10
3. Camera on the Moto X is inferrior but geez over 85% of cell phone users arent professional photographers
4. Every LG G2 is different as well, especially the verizon version which tells me the updates will not come in a timely manner(opinion not fact)

A legitimate question I have never seen the answer to.

This is kinda a question and a discussion starter.
The Moto X has allot going for it above other phones:
-It has great battery life
-It has features aimed at the general consumer and keeps the interface looking pretty while doing it
-It has the Moto Maker
-It looks beautiful and unique (wood backs anyone?)
-The price is great for the specs
-The screen is bright and clear despite being only 720p
-Aiming at the everyday consumers not just the geeker consumers
-The marketing budget I think was close to 500 million (I may be wrong)
-It is on all carriers, and has big displays in all their stores (when I was looking around my area at carrier's stores to see if this is true a couple of stores had people actually were looking at the Moto X with delight)
-It has several other small features like fast updates and a decent camera
-Insert other things I forgot to add of what it has going for it
So my question is this. With all these things going for it why wasn't it successful? It is a phone that could have competed with the likes of Samsung and Apple and would have done well doing so, this has always confused me.
Sent from my Moto X which is better than the S4 or HTC One

1. Most people like high end specs which the phone kinda lacks.
2. Not enough exposure in media
Motorola did a great job with moto x. I hope they continue with it.
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I have no idea where they spent that marketing budget but the blame has to rest solely on them. So many tech and industry people agree the Moto X was one of the top devices or the top device of 2013. The engineering team who designed it should be extremely proud of the design and features. It really was a total let down in the advertising department - they really needed to push touchless control and active notifications.

Comes down to sammy and apple, those 2 brands seem to be in peoples minds , cool & hip. If you have neither you're second class. I was offered an s4 from Rogers which would have cost me less but I just preferred the feel of how the moto felt in my hands, nor did I want to follow the herd. bah bah bah bah
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Here's what I think. While people know about Motorola, they know Samsung and Apple better. Just about everyone I've talked to knows who Samsung is and what they make for the most part. The Galaxy S series is very popular and has a lot of media attention. The Moto X didn't get a lot of this and MotoMaker even less. Apple on the other hand has a loyal crowd. Macintosh is one of the top three operating systems and a good chunk of those that use Macs are going to to pick up an iPhone because it's an Apple product.
I work as an indirect cell phone retailer (basically I sell AT&T, Sprint, Verizon, and a lot of prepaid). When I talk with a customer, almost all of them know about the newest Samsung Galaxy S and/or the newest iPhone. I will also get customers the come in and ask "what's the best phone?" (I love getting asked this) I'll try to ask questions to help find a phone that fits their needs, but most will just pick the phone with the most features, specs, or the simplest to operate.
The thing is, most of us here probably spend a good amount of time looking into the phones we're interested in. We learn what works, doesn't work, how optimized (or not) the system is, and so on. We here are generally the minority of cell phone consumers. Those that have done their "homework" don't come to me asking what phone to get. They generally get the phone themselves and usually off-contract. The majority of consumers will get a familiar named phone that has features and high specs, even if a mid-range phone that's optimized can out perform it.

I think I'm gonna start referring to the iPhone 5S as a midrange device with its 640p screen, dual-core processor, and 1GB of RAM. I don't think 1080p would be beneficial in a 4.7" screen. Offloading the sensor and voice data to tailored DSPs was a smart choice too.
Anyway, it takes time to chip away at the big names like Samsung and Apple.
Where the 2013 Nexus 7 gets praise for its quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro (a rebadged S600), the Moto X gets derided for its dual-core S4 Pro (also using most of the S600 internals). People think it's old hardware, but it's not. That was another uphill battle for Motorola.

A better camera would have resulted in my wife and sister both getting one. I can deal with it, they can't.
However for the first time in years I was asked "what kind of phone is that" by someone. the cashier at home Depot when they were scanning my return email off my phone. "I like the size, it's not huge".
I think moto is (was) off to a great start with a new line of phones with great performance and not huge. Hell the new galaxy s5 is going to be as big as the note at 5.25". What iphoner is going to do that? Not my mom that's for sure. But the x could win those people over over the next few generations of devices.
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Yeah...I don't think Motorola failed as much as Samsung and apple succeeded.
People get iPhone and Samsung thrown at them in ads and word of mouth....so that's what they buy.
It will be hard to change that. Very. Look at iPhone. They've made no significant changes in years. Same old thing...just slightly quicker. But people are buying them...cause that's what their friends have. LOL
It may never change. The other makers can just hope to turn a profit at this point.....beating out the two giants will be a long haul.
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The general public does know about devices like we do. If you asked most people if they knew what was different about the iPhone 5s they would say its gold and has a finger print scanner. Its all word of mouth really. Everybody at my work had I phones but one person bought a galaxy so now everyone else bought a galaxy. Once I go to work with my bamboo back x they will drool.
I have literally owned every smartphone that att has sold plus Nexus's. Moto x blows all of those phones away.

Yeah, I can't even count the number of GS4 and GN3 variants there are internationally. Samsung sells their products EVERYWHERE. They have some serious market penetration, which partially explains their ridiculous sales numbers.
The rest is brand identity. Old Motorola shot themselves in the foot by not offering the same branded phone on every carrier. On Verizon, you could get a Droid RAZR HD, but on AT&T, it was its cousin the Atrix HD. There was no continous brand identity like there is now with the Moto X and Moto G. That helped Samsung build up their Galaxy line too.

Apple and Samsung have its OWN "shiny" stores in malls and stands in Best Buy. Apple was the first one to open cool stores, now Samsung is doing the same.
Moto X arrived in summer without motomaker and was like on 1 or 2 carriers in USA, months later it came to motomaker and was available on all carriers, and now half a year later its available internationally. Half a year is a long time, its already an "old" phone....we got G2, G Flex, and soon S5 coming out.

All I gotta say is... It's a marathon, not a foot race.
Motorola has broken into the smartphone game again, but they need tablets, phablets, laptops and wearables. They need to be competitive in every aspect of people's lives, then and only then will they gain the market share. That my friends will take time and support from us, the true Motorola fans.
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Moto_G said:
Only available in USA on initial release is the biggest problem.
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Only available on AT&T as well. Bad move by Motorola.

Really simple... money.
Samsung can spend tons of money on marketing, Apple doesn't necessarily needs (its just hype), but they also spend a lot...
Motorola have made the perfect phone, but it lacks on money for advertising and distribution...
That's why I'm please with Lenovo acquisition, they got tons and tons of money and, as it appears, they want to keep Motorola as it is but expand the market distribution.

They need to spend billions in ads campaign and have their super bowl commercials. The word "Motorola" doesn't really rhyme with hip. Another factor is the last two Moto phones are made for ergonomic use and price value, it's not the current fad. You can argue Apple is ergonomic, but the MotoX is lost in the sea of Android big screen phones. The current fad is subsidized 2 years contract and a 6" phablet with high end specs and bloatwares with poor software optimization.
Also MotoX and G just came out for a short time, they need more time to build up the 'Moto' name. There are only two devices now (that's how I see it), it's early days, eventually they'll have to make phablet and tablets as well.
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Only one real answer to this question, the rest of the answers like "specs" are not true (most customers don't know). Answer is marketing.

I don't know if that is true. I have seen several commercials about it. I may be wrong though.
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rupterr said:
Only available on AT&T as well. Bad move by Motorola.
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what are you talking about? moto x is available on pretty much every carrier in the us.
lenovo buying motorola will be very good for moto x sales moving forward. lenovo is the 3rd largest phone manufacturer and make very high quality ones at that. hopefully they only look to improve the moto x not change it.

I'd say marketing (see iPhone) and most people are specs/benchmarks whores.

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what are you talking about? moto x is available on pretty much every carrier in the us.
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It was only available thru AT&T in the U.S. when initially released. It took a couple of months for the other carriers to get it. That's where Motorola failed.

[q] nexus 4 or moto x

hey everybody, i wasnt sure where i should ask this question but here we go.
My dad is looking for a new phone, looking at the moto x or nexus 4 because theyre pretty much the same price and ive always wanted the moto x. I have a nexus 4 now and hes thinking on buying the moto x and swapping it for my nexus 4. would you guys recomend me doing it? im having some doubts and i will list them now
doubts about swapping:
i love the nexus 4 design
i love how the nexus 4 has a android L preview and will get updates quick
i love the choice of roms, kernels and all sorts.
when i had a moto g (as a temp phone) to be able to use hangouts you had to have the text messaging app on as well, which i didnt like in the slightest. also the phone app didnt have the search feature like the nexus does.
Reasons to swap:
i like the smaller bezzles of the moto x
i like the features
i like how its faster
i like how the battery is better
i like how the speaker doesnt flicker like the nexus 4
better camera
better front camera
no snapchat reboots
(smoother?)
how it doesnt heat up and throttle like the nexus
I've searched and searched but nothing really answers my question, they just compare price and stuff but price isnt a problem. What do you guys recommend? Thanks.

If you want to flash lots of things, nexus. If not....moto x.
Easy decision when you decide that.
But N4? Why not N5? Price is comparable to the X.
The Moto X is probably in reality better than the N4 in every way. But a flashing enthusiast will get bored with the X....like I did. Now my wife has it. Also, some X's don't have unlockable bootloader.
My advice is always....want roms and mods...like to tinker...then N5....if not, moto X. Its a great phone!

KJ said:
If you want to flash lots of things, nexus. If not....moto x.
Easy decision when you decide that.
But N4? Why not N5? Price is comparable to the X.
The Moto X is probably in reality better than the N4 in every way. But a flashing enthusiast will get bored with the X....like I did. Now my wife has it. Also, some X's don't have unlockable bootloader.
My advice is always....want roms and mods...like to tinker...then N5....if not, moto X. Its a great phone!
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no i dont like flashing stuff really, i just like something that works. and nexus 5 is about £100 more- but yeah, should i get the moto then??

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no i dont like flashing stuff really, i just like something that works. and nexus 5 is about £100 more- but yeah, should i get the moto then??
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The devices I own are in my signature. And the Moto X, I'm my opinion, is the most polished device I've used. And best radio signal strength as you expect from Motorola. I'd still have mine....but I like to tinker to much. Lol
My wife had an iPhone 4s. Then an S2. Went back to her 4s. And said she wanted an iPhone 5s. Then she played with my moto x and loved it. I gave it to her and got an N5...to play with. I asked her a month later if she still wanted a 5s.....she said nope. She never wants another iPhone.
She may want the next X tho.
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Your Dad may take issue with the trade tho. Lol

KJ said:
The devices I own are in my signature. And the Moto X, I'm my opinion, is the most polished device I've used. And best radio signal strength as you expect from Motorola. I'd still have mine....but I like to tinker to much. Lol
My wife had an iPhone 4s. Then an S2. Went back to her 4s. And said she wanted an iPhone 5s. Then she played with my moto x and loved it. I gave it to her and got an N5...to play with. I asked her a month later if she still wanted a 5s.....she said nope. She never wants another iPhone.
She may want the next X tho.
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Your Dad may take issue with the trade tho. Lol
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hahaha yeah i think i'd swap then! and nooo hes not really bothered which he has, he likes the nexus- if anything he thinks the nexus is better//the same.. not gonna decline the offer though am i "1 2 3 no swap back" hahaha

A vote for the Moto X. I've bought a handful of phones of the years (HTC, Samsung, LG, Nokia, Moto), a few for myself and more for my family members. The Moto X stands ahead of the others for quality, ruggedness and design.
In fact, just for fun I did T-Mobile's 7-day iPhone 5s test drive last week, and I returned it a day early. I wanted to get back to my Moto X. (And I'm a Mac fanboy, by the way.)
That said, I do miss flashing ROMs the way I did on my HTC Sensation. But I probably get more actual use out of my phone now.

idonttakedrugs said:
hey everybody, i wasnt sure where i should ask this question but here we go.
My dad is looking for a new phone, looking at the moto x or nexus 4 because theyre pretty much the same price and ive always wanted the moto x. I have a nexus 4 now and hes thinking on buying the moto x and swapping it for my nexus 4. would you guys recomend me doing it? im having some doubts and i will list them now
doubts about swapping:
i love the nexus 4 design
i love how the nexus 4 has a android L preview and will get updates quick
i love the choice of roms, kernels and all sorts.
when i had a moto g (as a temp phone) to be able to use hangouts you had to have the text messaging app on as well, which i didnt like in the slightest. also the phone app didnt have the search feature like the nexus does.
Reasons to swap:
i like the smaller bezzles of the moto x
i like the features
i like how its faster
i like how the battery is better
i like how the speaker doesnt flicker like the nexus 4
better camera
better front camera
no snapchat reboots
(smoother?)
how it doesnt heat up and throttle like the nexus
I've searched and searched but nothing really answers my question, they just compare price and stuff but price isnt a problem. What do you guys recommend? Thanks.
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You've asked in the moto x forum. Are you asking for biased views? Because your gonna get them.

dethrat said:
You've asked in the moto x forum. Are you asking for biased views? Because your gonna get them.
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You are obviously right.
I did throw the N5 name in there tho. ?

Why Nexus 4? Why you picked that? Where I live Nexus 5 and X are of almost same price (N5 being slightly higher), and in UK the price is almost same if I am not wrong, unless you are in a contract. N4 is quite outdated, old.
Moto X definitely. Chose it over Nexus 5. The reasons have been said already, a lot of times, still repeating, Active display, AMOLED, Ergonomics and Size, Call quality, Speaker phone quality, and of course the performance. While with Nexus you will get the fastest Android out there at the moment because of better hardware, and a bigger display with more resolution, but it's IPS, so it's dull, call quality can never match X's, everyone knows how the speaker is on the N5, no active display, if that matters to you, and last but not the least an extremely fragile device.
If there were a phone at X's size, with S5's display, Z2/1020's camera and G3's hardware then I would probably let myself switch off from browsing mobile related websites for six months.

So I have a moto x right now and just loved the active display function. Very good battery life and smoother. Just my opinion.

I've had a N4 before and there's no comparison when pitted against the Moto X. Almost everything about the X is better than the N4 and N5.

varxx said:
A vote for the Moto X. I've bought a handful of phones of the years (HTC, Samsung, LG, Nokia, Moto), a few for myself and more for my family members. The Moto X stands ahead of the others for quality, ruggedness and design.
In fact, just for fun I did T-Mobile's 7-day iPhone 5s test drive last week, and I returned it a day early. I wanted to get back to my Moto X. (And I'm a Mac fanboy, by the way.)
That said, I do miss flashing ROMs the way I did on my HTC Sensation. But I probably get more actual use out of my phone now.
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okay, sounds good!! thanks

Wutang200 said:
I've had a N4 before and there's no comparison when pitted against the Moto X. Almost everything about the X is better than the N4 and N5.
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thank you! im about to go to the shop now

I wouldn't say the X is better than the N5, just bought a N5 after having my moto x for almost a year, the major difference is development for N5 kicks azz while the moto x development just sucks. Both phones have there advantages and disadvantages, yes moto did a good job on the firmware side but for those who run custom Roms and the such the N5 rocks. Sorry moto ,nexus devices are always going to be in my pocket from this day forward
Moto X to a Nexus 5

Your opinion, is the X 2014 still a good phone to buy to-date?

After a very disappointing event (Nexus wise) Google showcased today, I'm leaning toward the X 2014 Pure Edition. I've already made mine on Moto Maker and just waiting to pull the trigger.
I've had every nexus since the N1 but skipped out on the N6 due to its size. Now this year looks like I'm going to skip out again; the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5, the 6p (given has slightly better specs) is still too big for me. Mind you, I'm 6'6" with large hands, however I dont like big phones.. I dont like the fact I have to use finger-gymnastics to navigate the screen.
Anyways, given the stouter (sp?, word? lol) body of the X and its 5.2 display, it feels amazing. Quite perfect, actually... Reminds me of the G3; shorter body but housed a 5.5.. Amazing. And I really like the design of the moto x/n6 as well. minimal bezel, attractive, etc.
Given now this phone is a year old, would you still buy it today? I just want a 'new' device (the n5 has been great, treated me very nicely still runs perfect running 6.0 now), and I've always wanted to make my own moto x (always been a moto fan) but given what i do to phones and how i use them, the nexus always took my money. Since moto is pure Android out of the box, I think I can manage going away from a nexus this year.
Since the Moto Pure (2015) is too big, I've decided to maybe jump to the 2014 until next years moto or nexus..
Thoughts?

I agree that the new Pure edition (2015) is a bit too large. Though thinner than the Nexus 6 it is just about as tall. I own a 2014 model (AT&T) and find it to be near perfect for me size wise. As an average sized person with smaller hands it is a great fit. The 2013 model, which I also own was a bit too small in my opinion.
I consider myself a tech enthusiast. Always on the lookout for the latest, greatest thing I'll usually end up purchasing it at some point. Over time, perhaps it comes with age, I've found that those things which initially grab my attention (specs) matter less and less since code optimization and more RAM in the latest devices mean that even lower end phones perform very well. Bearing that in mind, Motorola phones tend to offer something that no other manufacturer does... a near stock experience with above average specs (CPU, RAM, screen and camera) and just the right amount of truly value added software to enhance the user experience. In terms of sheer power it likely won't match flagships on benchmark tests, but in day to day use and even in side by side comparisons you will be hard pressed to notice a difference in performance... for almost half the price. In my opinion this makes a Moto X a better value than a Nexus or any flagship device all day long.
So in answer to your question, yes, the Moto X 2014 is still a great buy if you can handle your buddies gloating over their expensive flagship devices while chugging down a beer at the local pub. Just don't bother with a carrier variant. Grab the Pure edition.

I also came from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X 2014. I love the Moto design language and fancied a go at Moto maker.
Not sure I quite get your argument though. You say "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5" but the Nexus 5x has more to offer than the Moto X 2014:
- larger battery
- newer processor
- better camera
- fingerprint scanner
Here in the UK at least, the Nexus 5x is also cheaper (unless you can grab some sort of discount code as I did).
The only thing the Moto X has (and the reason I did the swap) was that it has a nicer design, especially with Moto maker. In addition, I always felt like a bit of a beta tester with the Nexus - constantly waiting for the next Android version to fix something that didn't quite work.
Not trying to sound negative but just wanted to lay down my thoughts.

rapperman said:
I agree that the new Pure edition (2015) is a bit too large. Though thinner than the Nexus 6 it is just about as tall. I own a 2014 model (AT&T) and find it to be near perfect for me size wise. As an average sized person with smaller hands it is a great fit. The 2013 model, which I also own was a bit too small in my opinion.
I consider myself a tech enthusiast. Always on the lookout for the latest, greatest thing I'll usually end up purchasing it at some point. Over time, perhaps it comes with age, I've found that those things which initially grab my attention (specs) matter less and less since code optimization and more RAM in the latest devices mean that even lower end phones perform very well. Bearing that in mind, Motorola phones tend to offer something that no other manufacturer does... a near stock experience with above average specs (CPU, RAM, screen and camera) and just the right amount of truly value added software to enhance the user experience. In terms of sheer power it likely won't match flagships on benchmark tests, but in day to day use and even in side by side comparisons you will be hard pressed to notice a difference in performance... for almost half the price. In my opinion this makes a Moto X a better value than a Nexus or any flagship device all day long.
So in answer to your question, yes, the Moto X 2014 is still a great buy if you can handle your buddies gloating over their expensive flagship devices while chugging down a beer at the local pub. Just don't bother with a carrier variant. Grab the Pure edition.
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I completely agree on everything you said.. Well put.. You and I think a lot alike.. However, (lol) the only difference with me is that yes, I consider myself a tech enthusiast, but I dont necessarily itch for the latest and greatest. Because sometimes the latest and greatest is not always the greatest (for my uses anyway). I still consider my Nexus 5 to be at the top of the list compared to devices today... Most of that 'top of the list' title is due to pure android of course. Nothing beats that experience. Yeah, specs arent "great" and the average user who sees the Nexus' specs on paper wont give the device the light day, but it still out performs most if not all devices today and I've been perfectly content with its specs. But gah, I've been a big fan of the design Moto has instilled in their phones, and that in itself is a big attraction to me.. I sometimes wish the n5 was a tad bigger with less bezel, and honestly, the moto x 2014 fits the bill perfectly.
Hahaha that's funny you say that.. I have buddies all the time trying to get the "latest and greatest" top tier phone with the best of everything but continue getting let down when my 2 year old phone runs circles around their bloated and skinned devices. So to have my buddies chug on a beer and gloat about their high end devices, im sitting over here thinking, "thats cute".. User experience means more to me than specs to an extent... Just like you said, once time passes, those specs become less and less relevant and all you have left is user experience. I'd take a phone with lesser specs and amazing user experience than grab a device with high end everything but cant keep up with what im doing. Thats where our beloved Nexus and Moto X's come to play.
So thank you for your input! I agree on the Pure Edition 100% :good:
surrealjam said:
I also came from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X 2014. I love the Moto design language and fancied a go at Moto maker.
Not sure I quite get your argument though. You say "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5" but the Nexus 5x has more to offer than the Moto X 2014:
- larger battery
- newer processor
- better camera
- fingerprint scanner
Here in the UK at least, the Nexus 5x is also cheaper (unless you can grab some sort of discount code as I did).
The only thing the Moto X has (and the reason I did the swap) was that it has a nicer design, especially with Moto maker. In addition, I always felt like a bit of a beta tester with the Nexus - constantly waiting for the next Android version to fix something that didn't quite work.
Not trying to sound negative but just wanted to lay down my thoughts.
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Didnt sound negative at all, sir! This is just good discussion.
You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned the design. Its such a good looking device. And to me, thats why i like it over the 5x. IMO the 5x isnt so attractive. Moto x wins on that one. The design of the phone really makes my phone buying hard. Every Nexus so far has been good looking imo except these recent ones. I'm picky lol.
Ok, I might have stated my argument incorrectly.. Lets try this, "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5 that is relevant to my uses"
- Larger battery? Sure does. However I was/am still getting 4-5 hours SOT on medium-heavy usage. So battery has never really been an issue for me.
- New processor. Yes, this is the only thing that attracts me.
- Better Camera? Sure. A lot better actually. But I was/am taking amazing photos with n5 camera now. I can link you to my instagram if need be lol (The moto X has a better camera than my n5 so ill be content). Yes, I would LOVE the 1.55 pixel, but its not the deciding factor when i look for a new phone.
Fingerprint scanner? Irrelevant for me. I couldnt care less for it. Now, put that fingerprint scanner on the power button (like the z5) then youll have my attention.
So yes, the 5x has more to offer than the moto, but the moto is an upgrade (kinda) from my n5.. The deciding factor for me is the design tbh.. I think the 5x doesnt look very good. Its as damn near the same size and everything of the z3, only the 5x being a tad taller. While the Moto houses the same screen size (5.2), is a lot shorter, has minimal bezel, and just looks and feels better.
Hope that clears some stuff up

I bought the Moto X 2014 last week and I'm more than happy with it!
It's fast enough to last me for a couple of years (I don't really game on it), and the size, for me, is great..
This is the largest I want to go!
After some tweaking (unlock bootloader, root, install Xposed) it's even better!
Remove some bloatware / unused apps, set Min/Max CPU speed, use NovaLauncher, tweak some notification things and the vlume sliders and it's near perfect!
I'd recommend it as "good" to the average user and "awesome" to the advanced user/tweaker

surrealjam said:
I also came from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X 2014. I love the Moto design language and fancied a go at Moto maker.
Not sure I quite get your argument though. You say "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5" but the Nexus 5x has more to offer than the Moto X 2014:
- larger battery
- newer processor
- better camera
- fingerprint scanner
Here in the UK at least, the Nexus 5x is also cheaper (unless you can grab some sort of discount code as I did).
The only thing the Moto X has (and the reason I did the swap) was that it has a nicer design, especially with Moto maker. In addition, I always felt like a bit of a beta tester with the Nexus - constantly waiting for the next Android version to fix something that didn't quite work.
Not trying to sound negative but just wanted to lay down my thoughts.
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Well, you don't get all of the Moto suite of useful apps and features with the n5x. There's much more to the X 2014 than design. I bought one two weeks ago and it's a solid choice if you're not gaming all day (battery lasts more than one day with moderate usage - reaches 4 hrs SOT easily). It's also way cheaper than the n5x...
My overall judgement on the X 2014 is in my signature

Incredible_Culp said:
sometimes the latest and greatest is not always the greatest
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Yep... pretty much my point.
Every phone nowadays can make calls, send texts, take pictures and get you from point A to point B. The Nexus devices do it absolutely bare-bones which is fine for guys like us but not flashy enough for others. In my opinion only Motorola seems to understand the needs of the "inbetweener." (lol if that's even a word!) The person who is seeking a device that is minimal (for the sake of performance) yet functional (doesn't skimp on features). The Moto X is that device... essentially stock android with some added Motorola software that actually enhances the user experience.

Flipz77 said:
Well, you don't get all of the Moto suite of useful apps and features with the n5x. There's much more to the X 2014 than design. I bought one two weeks ago and it's a solid choice if you're not gaming all day (battery lasts more than one day with moderate usage - reaches 4 hrs SOT easily). It's also way cheaper than the n5x...
My overall judgement on the X 2014 is in my signature
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I have a moto x2014 as well but I barely see 2:30 hrs of SOT ....I'm running stock 5.1

I would have answered yes until today's Motorola announcement that carrier versions of the Moto X 2014 will not be upgraded to Android 6.0

That's the carriers fault though isn't it?
Probably be able to get CM I'm sure.
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N01tra said:
I bought the Moto X 2014 last week and I'm more than happy with it!
It's fast enough to last me for a couple of years (I don't really game on it), and the size, for me, is great..
This is the largest I want to go!
After some tweaking (unlock bootloader, root, install Xposed) it's even better!
Remove some bloatware / unused apps, set Min/Max CPU speed, use NovaLauncher, tweak some notification things and the vlume sliders and it's near perfect!
I'd recommend it as "good" to the average user and "awesome" to the advanced user/tweaker
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I can definitely see why you say that.. I concur
Flipz77 said:
Well, you don't get all of the Moto suite of useful apps and features with the n5x. There's much more to the X 2014 than design. I bought one two weeks ago and it's a solid choice if you're not gaming all day (battery lasts more than one day with moderate usage - reaches 4 hrs SOT easily). It's also way cheaper than the n5x...
My overall judgement on the X 2014 is in my signature
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that signature is hilarious -- i dont game, so i have no worries on that
rapperman said:
Yep... pretty much my point.
Every phone nowadays can make calls, send texts, take pictures and get you from point A to point B. The Nexus devices do it absolutely bare-bones which is fine for guys like us but not flashy enough for others. In my opinion only Motorola seems to understand the needs of the "inbetweener." (lol if that's even a word!) The person who is seeking a device that is minimal (for the sake of performance) yet functional (doesn't skimp on features). The Moto X is that device... essentially stock android with some added Motorola software that actually enhances the user experience.
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I can see why you say that.. makes sense.. and come to think of it, youre right.. Even though our beloved nexus devices are the creme of the crop (to some people), its lacks certain things that i think would be nice to have.. small things nonetheless. slightly better camera, etc.. But i know that our nexus devices arent made to be top tier, so its understandable and i accept it.
but going off what you say, "Moto seems to understand the needs of the inbetweener". I concur. They make a device thats pure android, add better than average features (but not over the top that drives up the price), and still make it reasonably priced. i like that, and this thread is making my decision to pull the trigger even stronger.. Monday cant come here fast enough.