Related
http://youtu.be/_NHYYbleY7c
AndreaCristiano said:
http://youtu.be/_NHYYbleY7c
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
People actually put these phones in the same category and compare them? Why?
Motorola X = dated hardware and overpriced. I don't care how much you can customize it. it's hardware doesn't compete with any modern smartphone. S4 Pro, in Fall 2013? pass.
it's hardware competes the with the Nexus 4 I guess, you could compare them, but at the price points again why bother.
crawlgsx said:
Was my tone poor, sure I'll agree and apologize to that. I personally do not find the Moto X in the class of the HTC One / GS4, let alone G2/N5. My opinion, but I could've worded it better/less argumentative. (based on personal real time usage, not JUST specs).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So My apologies. That was a poor decision on my part, I do however stand by my opinions.
crawlgsx said:
People actually put these phones in the same category and compare them? Why?
Motorola X = dated hardware and overpriced. I don't care how much you can customize it. it's hardware doesn't compete with any modern smartphone. S4 Pro, in Fall 2013? pass.
it's hardware competes the with the Nexus 4 I guess, you could compare them, but at the price points again why bother.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
when you speak like that it is obvious you have never owned the MOTO X or actually used it for a length of time. Also it is obvious you didnt watch the video. PS I have owned all those phones( G2, S4 Note 2 etc ) and the MOTO X trumps them all even the Nexus 5 I just returned
AndreaCristiano said:
when you speak like that it is obvious you have never owned the MOTO X or actually used it for a length of time. Also it is obvious you didnt watch the video. PS I have owned all those phones( G2, S4 Note 2 etc ) and the MOTO X trumps them all even the Nexus 5 I just returned
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't really know what to say, you clearly have a biased opinion towards the MOTO X.
That said, Look at my sig. Does it look like I have not tried phones or have a base for my opinons? I did not purchase a MOTO X because I tried it for a few hours in the store and used a buddies and had no interest. It is pretty smooth for an S4 Pro I'll give it that. Battery and performance still cant touch a G2 and overall I am still left with no desire whatsoever to own one.
You can love it all you like, that is what choice is all about. To say it trumps a G2/N5 or even an HTC One/S4 is just plain biased crap. Sure it has it's +'s against each one, but trumps? Definitely not.
crawlgsx said:
I don't really know what to say, you clearly have a biased opinion towards the MOTO X.
That said, Look at my sig. Does it look like I have not tried phones or have a base for my opinons? I did not purchase a MOTO X because I tried it for a few hours in the store and used a buddies and had no interest. It is pretty smooth for an S4 Pro I'll give it that. Battery and performance still cant touch a G2 and overall I am still left with no desire whatsoever to own one.
You can love it all you like, that is what choice is all about. To say it trumps a G2/N5 or even an HTC One/S4 is just plain biased crap. Sure it has it's +'s against each one, but trumps? Definitely not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
how is it biased? have you used those phones and compared and contrasted them? No you have not. I have and no matter the specs that spec whores continue to tout the moto X is smoother, more fluid and works all the time. The features it has trump all the gimmicky features from most of these other more powerful phones
AndreaCristiano said:
how is it biased? have you used those phones and compared and contrasted them? No you have not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
crawlgsx said:
That said, Look at my sig. Does it look like I have not tried phones or have a base for my opinons? I did not purchase a MOTO X because I tried it for a few hours in the store and used a buddies and had no interest.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you bother to read what I said? I HAVE used them and compared them. I own a G2 and N5 and have spent hours with the MOTO X. I don't own one because I find it quite inferior. It has some neat features, sure. But battery, performance, price, and value leave much to be desired.
Like I said it is all about choice. If you say YOU prefer it, than fine. But if you want to use words like "TRUMPS" when comparing the Moto X to a G2/N5/HTC One/S4 you better be prepared to have something to show for it other than your biased opinions of features and ignoring the fact that it is significantly slower with a subpar screen and average battery life (no where near G2/S4/NoteIII). then you throw in $480 vs $300 for 16gb. in the N5 battle... yeah there is no way the Moto X comes close at $180 more, let alone "trumps".
crawlgsx said:
Did you bother to read what I said? I HAVE used them and compared them. I own a G2 and N5 and have spent hours with the MOTO X. I don't own one because I find it quite inferior.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thats fine but you can not call my opinion biased being that I came up with a different conclusion as you
Lol fellas it's all good you both have valid points. The Moto X is really loved, seems to me that anybody that owns that phone really likes it. But I'm not sure it"trumps" the HTC one, S4 and G2.
Sent from my LG-D800 using Tapatalk
---------- Post added at 09:48 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:47 AM ----------
crawlgsx said:
People actually put these phones in the same category and compare them? Why?
Motorola X = dated hardware and overpriced. I don't care how much you can customize it. it's hardware doesn't compete with any modern smartphone. S4 Pro, in Fall 2013? pass.
it's hardware competes the with the Nexus 4 I guess, you could compare them, but at the price points again why bother.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
True, but the moto X performs like a champ.
Sent from my LG-D800 using Tapatalk
The Moto X is a great phone, but I don't see spending $200 more for it.
It has good battery life, average camera, average build quality, average speaker, etc. (The nexus 5 is likely on par with all of it, better in some, worse in some). Lets be real, the key selling points for the moto X are the always listening feature, active notifications, and customizability. NOT the amazing hardware, low price, etc.
It has some unique software features, but I'm not too interested in any of them (the active notifications is cool, and only practical on an AMOLED screen).
If I was the average consumer, buying an on-contract phone I would consider both the $149 Nexus 5 and the $199 Moto X. Off-contract, I can't picture anybody in their right mind spending $550 for a moto x over $350 for a nexus 5 (I think side by side, nobody would choose the moto x for $200 more).
Some key points though, I am not an average consumer nor am I buying the phone on-contract.
Never the less, it's a fair comparison for a lot of people since most people are average consumers, and a fair amount will be looking at on-contract (maybe down payment price for t-mobile, don't know) phones exclusively.
really good video, brings up a lot of valid points
if they were the same price I'd still lean towards the nexus, however if Motorola had released the x at a similar 16gb-for-$350-unlocked months in advance I would have snagged one no question
barondebxl said:
Lol fellas it's all good you both have valid points. The Moto X is really loved, seems to me that anybody that owns that phone really likes it. But I'm not sure it"trumps" the HTC one, S4 and G2.
Sent from my LG-D800 using Tapatalk
---------- Post added at 09:48 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:47 AM ----------
True, but the moto X performs like a champ.
Sent from my LG-D800 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Once again people come up to different choice or viewpoint. what bothers me is that if GOD forbid someone believes the MOTO X trumps those other phones specs or not this is the reaction they get. I posted this on the Nexus 5 forum because i sent mine back and this echoed my sentiments almost to the T so i figured it would be helpful for people one way or the other
bbedward said:
The Moto X is a great phone, but I don't see spending $200 more for it.
It has good battery life, average camera, average build quality, average speaker, etc. (The nexus 5 is likely on par with all of it, better in some, worse in some). Lets be real, the key selling points for the moto X are the always listening feature, active notifications, and customizability. NOT the amazing hardware, low price, etc.
It has some unique software features, but I'm not too interested in any of them (the active notifications is cool, and only practical on an AMOLED screen).
If I was the average consumer, buying an on-contract phone I would consider both the $149 Nexus 5 and the $199 Moto X. Off-contract, I can't picture anybody in their right mind spending $550 for a moto x over $350 for a nexus 5 (I think side by side, nobody would choose the moto x for $200 more).
Some key points though, I am not an average consumer nor am I buying the phone on-contract.
Never the less, it's a fair comparison for a lot of people since most people are average consumers, and a fair amount will be looking at on-contract (maybe down payment price for t-mobile, don't know) phones exclusively.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Absolutely, right on the money.
Sent from my LG-D800 using Tapatalk
Moto X is just a big joke. Those hardware specs belong to before world war II era.
Is it just me, or does the dude in the video sound like he's trying to do a Ron Swanson impression?
AndreaCristiano said:
Once again people come up to different choice or viewpoint. what bothers me is that if GOD forbid someone believes the MOTO X trumps those other phones specs or not this is the reaction they get. I posted this on the Nexus 5 forum because i sent mine back and this echoed my sentiments almost to the T so i figured it would be helpful for people one way or the other
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Saying the Moto X TRUMPS the N5 is not a statement of opinion. You are stating it like fact.
You absolutely unequivocally can not say that at $180 more (16gb vs 16gb) the Moto X TRUMPS the N5 with how much slower it is and a severely inferior screen. Why does it trump the N5? Because of some features? I think not. I am sorry but that is just ridiculous.
Again is it a winner FOR YOU, OK. But trumps the N5? *laugh* Even at an even price point I personally would take the N5 all day long personally, but even then I could hardly call any of them trump.
caribouxda said:
Moto X is just a big joke. Those hardware specs belong to before world war II era.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Specs aren't everything. If the Moto X is capable of providing a good user experience with the specs it has then it's fine for the audience it was intended for. The biggest problem with the Moto X isn't (wasn't) specs, it was it's price.
I know more than one person who I have a lot of respect for who prefers the Moto X to the N5 for personal reasons, and there's nothing wrong with that.
crawlgsx said:
Saying the Moto X TRUMPS the N5 is not a statement of opinion. You are stating it like fact.
You absolutely unequivocally can not say that at $180 more (16gb vs 16gb) the Moto X TRUMPS the N5 with how much slower it is and a severely inferior screen. Why does it trump the N5? Because of some features? I think not. I am sorry but that is just ridiculous.
Again is it a winner FOR YOU, OK. But trumps the N5? *laugh* Even at an even price point I personally would take the N5 all day long personally, but even then I could hardly call any of them trump.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No your assertion that my conclusion is ridiculous is what is ridiculous SIR! The moto X has a better in hand feel, better software, fast as any other phone N5 included, software just works and the added features touchless controls, active notifications, moto assist , moto connect are truly usable and value added features unlike the other phones. You people who are caught up in the specs are exactly what these manufactures want this way they can convince you in 6 months you need a new device! The usability and functionality of the MOTO X outweighs any spec for me and many others it TRUMPS those phones. Just ask Metalhead or others whom have both the N5 and Moto
yup price is moto x's big downfall
given they are now going for $99 on contact they missed a big opportunity with the launch price imo
MaxCarnage said:
Specs aren't everything. If the Moto X is capable of providing a good user experience with the specs it has then it's fine for the audience it was intended for. The biggest problem with the Moto X isn't (wasn't) specs, it was it's price.
I know more than one person who I have a lot of respect for who prefers the Moto X to the N5 for personal reasons, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Us android fans are very funny. When it comes to iphone we attack iphone users by mentioning specs. When it comes to our devices we say specs are not important. Yes specs are very important and yes it was overpriced because it had crappy processor.
MaxCarnage said:
Specs aren't everything. If the Moto X is capable of providing a good user experience with the specs it has then it's fine for the audience it was intended for. The biggest problem with the Moto X isn't (wasn't) specs, it was it's price.
I know more than one person who I have a lot of respect for who prefers the Moto X to the N5 for personal reasons, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you and i will say this about the price, for me I am willing to pay that extra 100+ because it is assembled in the USA and its an american company giving americans jobs
So I currently own a S4 on Verizon. I've been wanting the X and my dad said he'd buy my S4 and I found someone with a brand new Moto X 16 gb for $300. I really love the design, nexus like look, and special features of the X. I've played with one at best buy an it is really fast. I'm just worried about a new one coming out soon. I know there will always be new technology but since this has been out for a few months, I'm skeptical. Also the 16gb worries me. I think I've read you're left with 11gb new. I just feel I'm going backwards lol
So I figured I'd ask the users of Moto Xs and see what you guys think. Not really asking if its better than the S4, just if its smart or not to get one at this point. It actually won't cost me anything an I'd actually make some money from selling my dads current S3.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
The trend for Apple and Samsung has been to release a new phone every year (so we should officially hear about the Galaxy S5 in March)
Considering the Moto X hit USA Carrier shelves starting in the tail end of August, if Moto follows that "new release every year" trend, then you're not even halfway through the X's shelf life yet. (only about 4 months of 12).
So if you're just worried about "timing" and you like the phone, then get it... otherwise consider....
Coming from a Galaxy S4, consider the smaller screen. Can your eyes adjust? Non-Removable battery (but the X has better life than my VZW GS4), Camera differences (at first GS4 was noticeably better, but with the recent updates, the X's camera matches the GS4's outdoor and good light abilities, it still lags in low light a little), no removable memory slot (so your MP3's, pix, videos have to take up space in the X's main memory).
Out of the box, a 16gig demo X I had for a while had more memory/storage available than my 16gig GS4 (11gig vs 9). I would still opt for the 32gig model X due to lack of removable Micro-SD slot if you want to keep stuff locally on your phone. That being said, I have friends who got 16gig models, haven't filled them up, and are perfectly happy. Me, I have 7 gig of music on my phone and take lots of pictures of my son (who just turned 5).
The X is my daily driver. I get phones free for my job and for a while via the VCC (don't ask) for personal use. (full list of my phones is -> HERE) The X was the first phone *I purchased* since I got my Moto E815 back in 2006. After using a carrier supplied 16gig Demo X for two months, I purchased the Dev Edition X for Verizon (full price) in early November, and its been my daily driver since. If you look at my phone list, and consider an X (first the demo and now my Dev X) has been on my personal line since early September when I originally got the demo X, you should get an idea of how much I like this phone.
I lived with a 16gb Nexus 4 for a year and unless you have a large music collection, keep many movies on your device or download many 1gb+ games then you will be fine with 16gb. I hovered around 5gb left while keeping one or two full backups as I was flashing roms alot on the N4, that said I was deleting stuff on a regular basis to keep memory free.
If you plan on rooting I would personally recommend the Developer Edition, unlocking and gaining root is very simple and you retain your full Motorola warranty even after unlocking. It is also 32gb, selling the S3 & S4 you should be close to it not costing you anything.
Thank you guys a lot. Very nice info. Yeah, timing is a good reason I was hesitant to pull the trigger. But knowing its still not half way through is nice to know.
Smaller screen, I believe I can adjust. I didn't have any issues when I played with it in best buy. Now I'm sure I'll realize it more as I use it more but I think it'll be okay. Its more knowing I'm going from 1080p to 720, but I know its not a huge difference an really only noticeable if you set the devices next to one another. I don't store anything on my phone. All music is through Google music. Though I keep a couple playlists of about 100 songs each stored on phone through Google music, but not a huge deal since I have unlimited data. I also never change out batteries so the removal one isn't a deal breaker.
Lastly I Dont bother rooting my phones anymore cause I always end up tinkering too much lol so I just want a solid, fast device. I'm just tired of Samsung's slow UI cover. Plus I hear so much praise on the X with its features that I want to try. Just worry downgrading in specs but I know performance is just as good as the S4. Main thing is the screen I guess.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
The colors on the Moto X are better imo as well as many other people then the S4. As far as specs just remember this might be the first time the software and hardware have been trully optimized for Android, when that's done there is no need to use more processor cores just like Apple has been doing with I-phones.
I have been a flashing junkie since I bought an original Droid, I rooted my Dev Edition for the main purpose of using Titanium Backup for games and apps in case there is a bad update in the Play Store. I found using Xposed with the Gravity Box module gave me practically every option I usually looked for in a rom while using the stock software, I have since flashed all my families devices back to stock and use Gravity Box.
I don't think you have to worry about Moto releasing a new phone until late summer/fall, they know that style of releasing phones every few months doesn't work for them as it does for Samsung. Producing quality handsets and supporting them with very fast updates is winning Motorola new/past customers and the way they are treating the Android community is something that the other OEM's should strive to emulate.
Yeah the internal specs Dont bother me much because the I know the performance is still top notch. Its mostly the the screen adjustment and going for a 5" screen to 4.7". But I think itd be nice to be able to use my phone again with one hand lol my S4 I can do most things one handed but there are still definitely instances where I need two.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
tu3218 said:
Yeah the internal specs Dont bother me much because the I know the performance is still top notch. Its mostly the the screen adjustment and going for a 5" screen to 4.7". But I think itd be nice to be able to use my phone again with one hand lol my S4 I can do most things one handed but there are still definitely instances where I need two.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you decide to buy, I have a way to knock $50 off for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617346
freeintruth said:
If you decide to buy, I have a way to knock $50 off for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617346
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you so much but I'd be buying it from someone off Craigslist for $300, brand new in package. But I appreciate the offer.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
I don't see how the Moto x2 could be much better. LOL
Plus it'll cost way more.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
Absolutely. The X is the first phone I don't really care what the internal specs are or feel compelled to switch to CM or any other roms. I love it.
S3 ->Note 2 -> s4 -> HTC one -> nexus 4 -> moto x
My point is I've slowly downgraded the spec sheet and have no regrets. Comparing apples to apples. Every device listed was running AOSP/AOKP/CM and the last 2 phones have been by far the smoothest even though on paper they don't quite stack up to the others. Battery life is above average but not great in my opinion but the ergonomics of this phone is one of the best I've had in a long time
Sent from my XT1053 using Tapatalk
Best phone I've ever owned. It's so fast and fluid even with the "inferior" specs. Not only that, but coming from a Droid DNA with its 1080p screen, I prefer the Moto X screen with the much nicer colors and I can't even tell the difference in resolution.
Get the Moto X.
Putting in my 2 cents,
I have had a Galaxy note 2 with a 5.5in screen for the past year. I love the phone, mostly due to the amazing battery life and the large screen.
I bought my wife a Moto X last week. I have since rooted it, and have been tinkering with it. I gotta say, I want one. I don't really mind the difference in screen size that much. Battery life is just as good, if not better (remains to be further tested). Always on voice controls are super cool. And you have kitkat.
I wouldn't pay attention to the so called "specs". Yeah it's a dual core compared to my quad core Note 2, but in reality it is just as snappy (if not snappier)
Plus, my Note 2's compass sensor has always been dysfunctional. It never was steady, just jumps around. When I saw Windy Day and how flawlessly it worked with the built-in sensors, I was blown away.
I think Motorola is on the right path. With the recently lowered prices, near stock experience and the unlocked developer edition (on Verizon, which I still can't believe those bastards allowed it) Moto X is an awesome phone with great value. I especially like that Moto is going for improving the overall experience rather than getting into a pissing contest over specs.
I hate, really *HATE* Verizon, but let's face it, they have the best LTE network and I still happen to have unlimited data. I especially hate their practice of not letting anybody else sell devices that are compatible with Verizon's network (ie. Nexus 7). I hate the fact that I can't simply buy a cheap new phone from the manufacturer, but instead have to buy them from Verizon or their approved vendors like BestBuy for much more than what they would cost direct from the manufacturer.
I honestly can't believe that Motorola was able to price the Moto X at $399 with no contract on Verizon. Verizon likes to say that the phones actually cost $700 but you're getting a $400 discount when you sign a contract and pay $300 for the phone, when in reality, the phone would cost $400 and you're only getting a hundred bucks for signing the contract. Kudos to Moto. I hope it sets the stage for other manufacturers
tu3218 said:
Its mostly the the screen adjustment and going for a 5" screen to 4.7".,
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Coming from a Note 2, the adjustment wasn't difficult at all. The only thing I miss is multi-window.
nhizzat said:
Coming from a Note 2, the adjustment wasn't difficult at all. The only thing I miss is multi-window.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Verizon has the moto x for 50 bucks right now with a 2 year contract. I just bought one for my son. My wife and I both have the DE phones I paid 450 each on motorola.com...I have unlimited on both. Best phone I have ever owned hands down.
Well my original offer fell through but I'm suppose to be getting a 32gb version tomorrow for $350. So fingers crossed!
I never use multiwindow on my S4 so won't miss that. And the IR blaster, very cool but I only use when screwing around with friends TVs lol I think in the end, the moto x has more useful extras than the galaxy devices.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
If you're worried about space, it does come with 50gb added to your drive storage on Google
Sent from my XT1060 using xda app-developers app
Yeah true. Well since I'm gonna get a 32gb version, I should be set.
I just hope this phone doesn't show its age too soon. Just read an artical comparing the nexus 5 and X. Talking about the X showing its age quicker. Which is obvious since the nexus 5 has upgraded processor, etc. But just hoping I don't slow downs in speed and use in a year from now.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
This phone is hands-down the best that I've ever used. Not only in performance, but features too.
tu3218 said:
Yeah true. Well since I'm gonna get a 32gb version, I should be set.
I just hope this phone doesn't show its age too soon. Just read an artical comparing the nexus 5 and X. Talking about the X showing its age quicker. Which is obvious since the nexus 5 has upgraded processor, etc. But just hoping I don't slow downs in speed and use in a year from now.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app[/QUOTE
If you have the mindset about not getting a phone because its going to be outdated or not the newest, shiniest in a year your never going to get a phone!!!
The phone cycle is practically six months or so.
To be honest, phones are hitting their critical ass point ad far as specs go. When all these reviews talk about this phone is faster than that one they're talking millisecond at this point.
Find a phone that you like size wise, screen looks good to you and just buy it.
If you don't ur always gonna be waiting for the next new thing.
Sent from my XT1060 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is kinda a question and a discussion starter.
The Moto X has allot going for it above other phones:
-It has great battery life
-It has features aimed at the general consumer and keeps the interface looking pretty while doing it
-It has the Moto Maker
-It looks beautiful and unique (wood backs anyone?)
-The price is great for the specs
-The screen is bright and clear despite being only 720p
-Aiming at the everyday consumers not just the geeker consumers
-The marketing budget I think was close to 500 million (I may be wrong)
-It is on all carriers, and has big displays in all their stores (when I was looking around my area at carrier's stores to see if this is true a couple of stores had people actually were looking at the Moto X with delight)
-It has several other small features like fast updates and a decent camera
-Insert other things I forgot to add of what it has going for it
So my question is this. With all these things going for it why wasn't it successful? It is a phone that could have competed with the likes of Samsung and Apple and would have done well doing so, this has always confused me.
Sent from my Moto X which is better than the S4 or HTC One
1. Most people like high end specs which the phone kinda lacks.
2. Not enough exposure in media
Motorola did a great job with moto x. I hope they continue with it.
Sent from my XT1056 using xda app-developers app
I have no idea where they spent that marketing budget but the blame has to rest solely on them. So many tech and industry people agree the Moto X was one of the top devices or the top device of 2013. The engineering team who designed it should be extremely proud of the design and features. It really was a total let down in the advertising department - they really needed to push touchless control and active notifications.
Comes down to sammy and apple, those 2 brands seem to be in peoples minds , cool & hip. If you have neither you're second class. I was offered an s4 from Rogers which would have cost me less but I just preferred the feel of how the moto felt in my hands, nor did I want to follow the herd. bah bah bah bah
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
Here's what I think. While people know about Motorola, they know Samsung and Apple better. Just about everyone I've talked to knows who Samsung is and what they make for the most part. The Galaxy S series is very popular and has a lot of media attention. The Moto X didn't get a lot of this and MotoMaker even less. Apple on the other hand has a loyal crowd. Macintosh is one of the top three operating systems and a good chunk of those that use Macs are going to to pick up an iPhone because it's an Apple product.
I work as an indirect cell phone retailer (basically I sell AT&T, Sprint, Verizon, and a lot of prepaid). When I talk with a customer, almost all of them know about the newest Samsung Galaxy S and/or the newest iPhone. I will also get customers the come in and ask "what's the best phone?" (I love getting asked this) I'll try to ask questions to help find a phone that fits their needs, but most will just pick the phone with the most features, specs, or the simplest to operate.
The thing is, most of us here probably spend a good amount of time looking into the phones we're interested in. We learn what works, doesn't work, how optimized (or not) the system is, and so on. We here are generally the minority of cell phone consumers. Those that have done their "homework" don't come to me asking what phone to get. They generally get the phone themselves and usually off-contract. The majority of consumers will get a familiar named phone that has features and high specs, even if a mid-range phone that's optimized can out perform it.
I think I'm gonna start referring to the iPhone 5S as a midrange device with its 640p screen, dual-core processor, and 1GB of RAM. I don't think 1080p would be beneficial in a 4.7" screen. Offloading the sensor and voice data to tailored DSPs was a smart choice too.
Anyway, it takes time to chip away at the big names like Samsung and Apple.
Where the 2013 Nexus 7 gets praise for its quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro (a rebadged S600), the Moto X gets derided for its dual-core S4 Pro (also using most of the S600 internals). People think it's old hardware, but it's not. That was another uphill battle for Motorola.
A better camera would have resulted in my wife and sister both getting one. I can deal with it, they can't.
However for the first time in years I was asked "what kind of phone is that" by someone. the cashier at home Depot when they were scanning my return email off my phone. "I like the size, it's not huge".
I think moto is (was) off to a great start with a new line of phones with great performance and not huge. Hell the new galaxy s5 is going to be as big as the note at 5.25". What iphoner is going to do that? Not my mom that's for sure. But the x could win those people over over the next few generations of devices.
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk
Yeah...I don't think Motorola failed as much as Samsung and apple succeeded.
People get iPhone and Samsung thrown at them in ads and word of mouth....so that's what they buy.
It will be hard to change that. Very. Look at iPhone. They've made no significant changes in years. Same old thing...just slightly quicker. But people are buying them...cause that's what their friends have. LOL
It may never change. The other makers can just hope to turn a profit at this point.....beating out the two giants will be a long haul.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
The general public does know about devices like we do. If you asked most people if they knew what was different about the iPhone 5s they would say its gold and has a finger print scanner. Its all word of mouth really. Everybody at my work had I phones but one person bought a galaxy so now everyone else bought a galaxy. Once I go to work with my bamboo back x they will drool.
I have literally owned every smartphone that att has sold plus Nexus's. Moto x blows all of those phones away.
Yeah, I can't even count the number of GS4 and GN3 variants there are internationally. Samsung sells their products EVERYWHERE. They have some serious market penetration, which partially explains their ridiculous sales numbers.
The rest is brand identity. Old Motorola shot themselves in the foot by not offering the same branded phone on every carrier. On Verizon, you could get a Droid RAZR HD, but on AT&T, it was its cousin the Atrix HD. There was no continous brand identity like there is now with the Moto X and Moto G. That helped Samsung build up their Galaxy line too.
Apple and Samsung have its OWN "shiny" stores in malls and stands in Best Buy. Apple was the first one to open cool stores, now Samsung is doing the same.
Moto X arrived in summer without motomaker and was like on 1 or 2 carriers in USA, months later it came to motomaker and was available on all carriers, and now half a year later its available internationally. Half a year is a long time, its already an "old" phone....we got G2, G Flex, and soon S5 coming out.
All I gotta say is... It's a marathon, not a foot race.
Motorola has broken into the smartphone game again, but they need tablets, phablets, laptops and wearables. They need to be competitive in every aspect of people's lives, then and only then will they gain the market share. That my friends will take time and support from us, the true Motorola fans.
MotoX GSM Developer Edition, Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted, Stock 4.4.2 Great Britain on T-Mobile !
Moto_G said:
Only available in USA on initial release is the biggest problem.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Only available on AT&T as well. Bad move by Motorola.
Really simple... money.
Samsung can spend tons of money on marketing, Apple doesn't necessarily needs (its just hype), but they also spend a lot...
Motorola have made the perfect phone, but it lacks on money for advertising and distribution...
That's why I'm please with Lenovo acquisition, they got tons and tons of money and, as it appears, they want to keep Motorola as it is but expand the market distribution.
They need to spend billions in ads campaign and have their super bowl commercials. The word "Motorola" doesn't really rhyme with hip. Another factor is the last two Moto phones are made for ergonomic use and price value, it's not the current fad. You can argue Apple is ergonomic, but the MotoX is lost in the sea of Android big screen phones. The current fad is subsidized 2 years contract and a 6" phablet with high end specs and bloatwares with poor software optimization.
Also MotoX and G just came out for a short time, they need more time to build up the 'Moto' name. There are only two devices now (that's how I see it), it's early days, eventually they'll have to make phablet and tablets as well.
sent via my Le Motonovo X
Only one real answer to this question, the rest of the answers like "specs" are not true (most customers don't know). Answer is marketing.
I don't know if that is true. I have seen several commercials about it. I may be wrong though.
Sent from my XT1060 using xda app-developers app
rupterr said:
Only available on AT&T as well. Bad move by Motorola.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what are you talking about? moto x is available on pretty much every carrier in the us.
lenovo buying motorola will be very good for moto x sales moving forward. lenovo is the 3rd largest phone manufacturer and make very high quality ones at that. hopefully they only look to improve the moto x not change it.
I'd say marketing (see iPhone) and most people are specs/benchmarks whores.
sicmadek said:
what are you talking about? moto x is available on pretty much every carrier in the us.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It was only available thru AT&T in the U.S. when initially released. It took a couple of months for the other carriers to get it. That's where Motorola failed.
Hey guys,
I sold my nexus 4 a few months back and have been using a galaxy nexus as a get over device. I have seen the reports of the 5.9" nexus 6 and that is too big to fit in my pocket.
I designed my moto x and it came to roughly $600 with tax.
I can find a nexus 5 for about half the cost.
Is the $300 worth it? What do you guys think. Especially if you have had experience with both devices I would love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
I don't care for the nexus 5 (which is what I'm typing on now). Bad signal, bad battery, bad camera, bad speakers. I greatly preferred the 2013 x over the nexus 5. My 2014 x will arrive tomorrow and I'm sure I'll like it more at first. Will have to see if it exceeds the 2013 version but I'm pretty sure it'll exceed the nexus 5. $300 better? I don't know...some people like the 5 and plan to keep it. If you have the money then give both a try and sell / return the one you like less.
Well I can tell you I just made that exact switch, from a Nexus 5 to the Moto X. Is it worth $300 more probably not. But is the Moto X better yes, hands down. The signal I get on the Moto X is much better than I had with the Nexus 5. Battery life is also much better. Camera wise to me they are about the same, which isn't really great, just OK. Software wise Moto X is about 99.9% stock Android and is very fast and smooth. The Nexus 5 will get updates faster but if you get the pure Moto X no carrier version the updates should be very soon after nexus devices. And active display is a really cool feature which the Nexus 5 does not have. You can pretty much send a text, call someone read an email play music etc without even touching your phone. Is all that worth $300 more probably not but only you can decide that I happy I made the switch, I sold my nexus 5 for $250 and the Moto X was $500 so it was a bit easier to pay $250 for it rather than the full price of $500. Oh one more thing the speaker on the Moto X blows away the speaker on the Nexus 5, its much much louder and crystal clear.....
I know there is a $50 off when you have a edu account .
jmtjr278 said:
Hey guys,
I sold my nexus 4 a few months back and have been using a galaxy nexus as a get over device. I have seen the reports of the 5.9" nexus 6 and that is too big to fit in my pocket.
I designed my moto x and it came to roughly $600 with tax.
I can find a nexus 5 for about half the cost.
Is the $300 worth it? What do you guys think. Especially if you have had experience with both devices I would love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2[/QUOTE
what did you get to bring price up to $600 on your moto x? I had the nexus 5, loved that phone but the moto x is better in almost every way. Build, speaker , call quality, bigger screen but about same size device and faster. The Motorola added software is nice and doesn't hinder the stock android experience. Is it worth 300 over nexus 5? No but the x is better. I'd go for a pure edition and maybe spec it out a little cheaper if the $600 is bothering you. The plain moto x with soft touch plastic back is still a nicer build phone than the nexus 5 for $499.
I have the a&t model but might sell so that I can get a pure edition.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
cjpp78 said:
jmtjr278 said:
Hey guys,
I sold my nexus 4 a few months back and have been using a galaxy nexus as a get over device. I have seen the reports of the 5.9" nexus 6 and that is too big to fit in my pocket.
I designed my moto x and it came to roughly $600 with tax.
I can find a nexus 5 for about half the cost.
Is the $300 worth it? What do you guys think. Especially if you have had experience with both devices I would love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2[/QUOTE
what did you get to bring price up to $600 on your moto x? I had the nexus 5, loved that phone but the moto x is better in almost every way. Build, speaker , call quality, bigger screen but about same size device and faster. The Motorola added software is nice and doesn't hinder the stock android experience. Is it worth 300 over nexus 5? No but the x is better. I'd go for a pure edition and maybe spec it out a little cheaper if the $600 is bothering you. The plain moto x with soft touch plastic back is still a nicer build phone than the nexus 5 for $499.
I have the a&t model but might sell so that I can get a pure edition.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It was that price with taxes and everything added in.
And the plain version is nice but if I'm spending that much I'm going with exactly what I want.
I did spring for the white body bamboo back and blue accents. Pure edition. Should arrive Thursday.
Pretty psyched.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've had around 11 replacements when I had my N5.
-Call quality was awful as noise cancellation never worked properly
-Got dead pixels on 3 of the replacements
-Small particles of dust began to generate between the screen and the bezel due to bad design
-Poorly optimized for it's hardware as benchmarks prove
So signal is way better with the Moto X. I would lose service entirely with my n5 at times in my house. The dB are consistently stronger with the Moto X.
It also handles multitasking better. The most intensive thing I do is run a dash cam app while navigating. The n5 (and 2013 moto x) both struggled with this and would lag while unlocking, or while scrolling around the map, or when turning off the dash cam. So far with my new 2014 x it acts almost like the background dash cam app isn't running at all.
Without the signal issue I may have kept the n5 and dealt with the camera. Not sure if it's "worth" $300 over the n5 but it is an improvement for sure.
When I had a 2013 X, I bought the Nexus 5 to play around with. After about five minutes, I packaged up the N5 to go back to google. And that was comparing it with my 2013 X!
Definitely don't get the nexus 5. The 6 will be out probably November 1st. People have beat this horse dead. Read one of the thousand comparisons between the 2014 moto x, nexus 5, LG G3, and galaxy s5 and make your decision. At the end of the day no one on here is going to say anything to sway you, you know what you want, so just get it. It sounds like you want the nexus 5 to me because of the price point. I say to that, still wait for the 6 because it is essentially a larger dev ed. moto x and will probably only be $100-$200 more depending on what storage size you get. I went with the x because a 5.9 inch screen is way too big for me. even the 5.2 on the x is borderline.
Want a good phone with great features.... The X.
Are a flashaholic and like many options... N5 or 6.
That's the biggest decision in my eyes. ?
The nexus 6 was just announced and it looks to be a beast. Why was the reason you pulled the trigger on the moto x instead of waiting for the nexus 6 ? My reason is I knew it was going to be expensive... Second off all 5.9 is too big. I understand the 805 chip is better, but the 801 is really not that far off ? Do you regret buying your moto x ? I would like to know every ones opinion
I went with Moto X because I wasn't sure whether the Nexus 6 was going to be 5.2" or 5.9". I figured that with the delivery and the return period that I could check out the Moto X and return it if the Nexus 6 was a 5.2" phone. I love everything about the Nexus 6, except the size. I'll be keeping the Moto X. 5.2" is almost too big, 5.9" as your only offering is just completely stupid imo. I understand that there are some people out there think that bigger is better, but I'm willing to bet that a majority aren't interested in a phone that large. Polls have shown this.
1) size - 5.9 is outside of my consideration
2) personalization - loving my teak back
Though I do wish moto would've added Qi charging to the X.
dia_naji said:
The nexus 6 was just announced and it looks to be a beast. Why was the reason you pulled the plug on the moto x instead of waiting for the nexus 6 ? My reason is I knew it was going to be expensive... Second off all 5.9 is too big. I understand the 805 chip is better, but the 801 is really not that far off ? Do you regret buying your moto x ? I would like to know every ones opinion
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I believe you meant pull the trigger. Pulling the plug implies taking somebody off life support to kill them.
Sent from my XT1058 using XDA Free mobile app
mattjacobson said:
1) size - 5.9 is outside of my consideration
2) personalization - loving my teak back
Though I do wish moto would've added Qi charging to the X.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You just nailed it! If the new nexus was 5.2", it would be competing directly with the Moto X. You chose the option best for you, and for that, you are a good cat!
Size
Seriously, Motorola has 3 new devices. They only needed one.
Moto X design language and customization. Droid Turbo hardware including screen size and resolution, Nexus 6 pure android support and the 65 GB memory size availability. Put those elements of the phones together and the single device would be better than any one of the three.
Size, phablets are a blight on society :laugh: If the Nexus 6 were <5.2 I would've considered it, although it would be tough to give up my leather back
And the fact that, while Android L will add most of these, I find that the moto additions to stock android to be extremely value add.
Size is the true factor. In hind sight I would have likely gone with the turbo.
Sent from my XT1096 using XDA Free mobile app
Size and Bamboo!
Once I started reading that the Nexus would be designed based of the X, I figured why wait and also the bamboo back is just awesome.
You do lose quick Android updates, but to be honest, this thing stock is just as good as any phone I've ever used.
I've been spoiled by CM ever since I've had an Android device, but couldn't be happier with my choice to get the Moto X.
I went with the X for the size and close to stock Android feel. That nexus 6 is just too damn big.
5.9 too much, too expensive compared to the X, dont need all that battery, too much screen on QHD
The X is all i need, enough battery and moto maker.
And yes the 805 and the 801 are pretty much the same
I went with the Moto X since I needed a new phone. With today's announcement, I'm glad I bought it. The N6, being 5.96 inches in screen size is so darn big. The price is too high. For 64gb, I would be spending probably $700. I could get a financing plan through T-Mobile but still, that's expensive. Being a tech geek though, it's still tempting
The thing n6 has is the better camera sensor, imx214. Moto X has imx115 or whatever (older). N6 has OIS also. Also, the fact n6 has a 64gb option is good. Let's not forget lte band 12
I'll wait until 64bit chips and 4gb ram phones are out. QHD will probably be the standard next year
sent from my Moto X (2014)
As someone earlier said, the Nexus 6 is essentially a Moto X Note. You have multiple size options and price points, Motorola played this one well. Moto G, Moto X, Nexus 6
For us crackflashers/hackers/wannabe Developers it is a bummer since the Moto X is not unlockable and rootable (atleast not yet). However Motorola was smart not to make a phone that would compete directly with the one they just created....with better specs.
Verizon. Need I say more.
Sent from my Moto X 2nd Generation
GatorsUF said:
As someone earlier said, the Nexus 6 is essentially a Moto X Note. You have multiple size options and price points, Motorola played this one well. Moto G, Moto X, Nexus 6
For us crackflashers/hackers/wannabe Developers it is a bummer since the Moto X is not unlockable and rootable (atleast not yet). However Motorola was smart not to make a phone that would compete directly with the one they just created....with better specs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You could even say that theres the Moto X 2013 for someone looking for a cheaper, smaller and still very very good flagship phone.
So you have the Moto E & Moto G for budget/entry devices, the X 2013 for cheaper and smaller flagship, the X 2014 for the new flagship device and the Nexus 6 for a phablet
After all every Motorola phone its pretty much a Nexus device
For those who want woodback for their Nexus 6, ToastMade will eventually release a woodback for it, so no worry there.
I actually was looking forward to buying the Nexus 6 as backup device for my Moto X, to use as a tablet and backup phone. At $649 I would get it as my primary device, which I will not since it's too large, but not as a backup device. So I bought a used Nexus 7 for ablet instead.
For back up phone, I think I will just get the Sprint Moto X 2013 and GSM unlock it, or a Nexus 5.
6 inch screen is way too big. Super happy with my moto x and leather back and green accents. As everyone else said, I will miss the unlocked boot loader and all that but I can live without it. Stock moto x is a great phone.
Sent from my XT1096 using Tapatalk
The design of the Moto X just really appeals to me more than the Nexus 6 did, from what I could tell of the many leaks and teasers. There's something wonderfully different about having a high-tech phone with a visibly wooden back. The Nexus 6 is just another plastic device. As soon as I found out the Nexus was going to be closer to phablet size I knew it wasn't for me. Moto X is a great size for me.
jzaslice said:
You do lose quick Android updates (...)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, you don't!
Previous phone was a Samsung Galaxy S 3 International, originally decided to wait to see what the next Nexus was all about.
Saw that it was a phone for whales, bought Moto X.
Speaking of which, whats this Pure edition stuff people keep mentioning about?