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Hi All.... Bad day for me today - to cut a long story short, I drove over my beloved Archos AV560 media player, and naturally it has ceased to be. I used to listen to it several hours a day, but now I'm using a borrowed Ipod Nano. I read in another forum that the Kaiser dosent sound a lot different to the nano, so I thought about using the Kaiser as an mp3 player. At the moment I've got a Vario II (Tytn), and am due an ungrade in February.
Basically I'd like some feedback on battery life as an mp3 player, with screen off/on, with phone/3G off etc.
Thanks all.
Tim
I don't have battery statistics, but here are two relevant threads.
Audio playback - as good as Ipod?
Tilt: Music Playback Audio Problem (Glitch 'skip' heard every 3-4 minutes)
IMO, at the moment, the Kaiser is a poor choice for multimedia playback. It will have less battery life than an iPod/regular DAP because it doesn't have hardware acceleration.
With bluetooth headphones, my Kaiser skips like crazy (2-3 times a minute).
To use regular headphones, you need a 3rd part adapter. The D/A converter is much worse than the one in the iPod. Battery life will will be relatively bad (less than 8 hours continuous music, I would guess). Not to mention the fact that the largest MicroSD card you can buy is 8GB, for $120. For a couple of bucks more, you can get a 30GB iPod Classic or 8GB iPod Nano.
In my experience,
Under these specs,
-System Volume set at half
-Audio player set at 15%(Still pretty loud IMO)
Screen off battery:
(fell asleep for 4 hours with it on)
After 4 hours of continuous usage battery drops to around 30-35%
Occasional screen on/off (checking mail, time, etc) battery:
For about 3 hours, dropped down to 40-45%
Screen on Battery:
Phone sometimes gets pretty warm, but battery drops pretty fast. I left it on for IM with continuous usage. After 1 to 1 1/2 hours, it dropped to 60-65%
Hope these give u a rough idea on the battery life!
I really dont know why so many kaiser people are having problems. I use a couple different BT stereo headsets (rockr s9s and logitech ones also) and have never had any skipping problems. Infact I can set my phone down and walk 30 feet away without any drops or skips.
I have an ipod also thats been sitting in my desk drawer for months unused. I use Core player on my tilt and once you adjust the equalizer in it, the sound is very good. I have zero problems with battery life. I listen most the time for 5 to 7 hours straight at work and still have 40-50% of the battery left. I charge my phone nightly so it doesnt matter much to me.
I have my phone on, 3g on and the screen off. I hate having a pocket full of gadgets, that was my main reason behind the tilt purchase. So far I have no problems letting my ipod collect dust in the drawer and its probaly never going to be used again.
So an Ipod has more storage, I cant even listen to all of my 4 gig microsd card in 3 days at work. If I want more songs, its a matter of minutes to reload it. I also have a set of portable bluetooth speakers (nokias). Another thing an ipod cant do.
The logitech mp3 bluetooth stereo headsets were pulled off the market awhile back because the headband would crack/break. You can scoop a new set up for 29 bucks on some deal sites even today. they are one of the sweetest sounding headsets for that price. A couple mods to the headband and they good forever.
Go ahead and get the phone, you wont reget it even as a mp3 player.
I listen via BT (Sony DS HBH970), using PocketPlayer 3.5, audio files stored on a 4 gb microSD.
- After 3/4 hours I still have between 50 and 60% battery life.
- On PP, my settings are to turn off the screen at 1 minute.
- I do not have 3G in my area, and I do not keep Data on at all.
I do have an occasional skip, and I can't walk too far away from my phone before it cuts out.
Thanks for all your info guys. I've just ordered the USB to 3.5mm adapter so I can use my Sony headphones, and see how it all works out. It's gotta be worth a try!!
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I really dont know why so many kaiser people are having problems. I use a couple different BT stereo headsets (rockr s9s and logitech ones also) and have never had any skipping problems. Infact I can set my phone down and walk 30 feet away without any drops or skips.
I have an ipod also thats been sitting in my desk drawer for months unused. I use Core player on my tilt and once you adjust the equalizer in it, the sound is very good. I have zero problems with battery life. I listen most the time for 5 to 7 hours straight at work and still have 40-50% of the battery left. I charge my phone nightly so it doesnt matter much to me.
I have my phone on, 3g on and the screen off. I hate having a pocket full of gadgets, that was my main reason behind the tilt purchase. So far I have no problems letting my ipod collect dust in the drawer and its probaly never going to be used again.
So an Ipod has more storage, I cant even listen to all of my 4 gig microsd card in 3 days at work. If I want more songs, its a matter of minutes to reload it. I also have a set of portable bluetooth speakers (nokias). Another thing an ipod cant do.
The logitech mp3 bluetooth stereo headsets were pulled off the market awhile back because the headband would crack/break. You can scoop a new set up for 29 bucks on some deal sites even today. they are one of the sweetest sounding headsets for that price. A couple mods to the headband and they good forever.
Go ahead and get the phone, you wont reget it even as a mp3 player.
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Well I guess it's time I try this .... but that leads me to another question: can I have your iPod?
Doubt he'll send u the ipod, but I can send you the most compact 60 gigabyte Archos AV560 media player you'll ever see. Just a mere 6mm thick. It's fully funtional apart from the fact it won't turn on....
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I really dont know why so many kaiser people are having problems. I use a couple different BT stereo headsets (rockr s9s and logitech ones also) and have never had any skipping problems. Infact I can set my phone down and walk 30 feet away without any drops or skips.
I have an ipod also thats been sitting in my desk drawer for months unused. I use Core player on my tilt and once you adjust the equalizer in it, the sound is very good. I have zero problems with battery life. I listen most the time for 5 to 7 hours straight at work and still have 40-50% of the battery left. I charge my phone nightly so it doesnt matter much to me.
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This echoes my experience, as well. Using coreplayer, with equalizer, it sounds great. Turn the screen off while listening and it will run a very long time. I listened to mine on a 3 hour flight this week and the battery dropped by 20% during that time. Not TO 20%, dropped by 20%. (From 98% to 78%).
I used to take my Dell Axim, A bluetooth GPS, my Ipod Nano, and my cellphone on every trip. Now, I take just the Tilt. It's the first smartphone I've owned that was complete enough to leave everything else behind.
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I used to take my Dell Axim, A bluetooth GPS, my Ipod Nano, and my cellphone on every trip. Now, I take just the Tilt. It's the first smartphone I've owned that was complete enough to leave everything else behind.
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Same here, all I carry on the plane now is my TyTnII and Promate PM-2600's (absolutely no ticks or skipping with these!) and I have a WLHDD2.5 100Gig wireless hardrive in my case for tons of extra AV and business files.
I find I can get around 5-6 hours continous play when in flight mode and still have 50% battery left. If I connect my 'power monkey' portable charger I can easily double that.
Hi I would appreciate your views on an issue I am having with my Vodafone V1615 badged Kaiser.
I use bluetooth a lot, when I am in the car and out and about via bluetooth headsets or carkits. I am used to just leaving it switched on all the time, on other phones, with very little impact to battery life. But since I started using my V1615 as my only device I have noticed how it affects the battery life. I decided to do some simple scientific tests!
With bluetooth switched on and used all day my battery was warning me of imminent data loss by 5pm. Thats a poor 8 hours from a full overnight charge. This is only using the device for voice calls, no gps or web surfing. I do however have BlackBerry connect though.
This is really disappointing! My previous device was a Blackberry 8800, and I could quite happily use all of the functions (including GPS) leave bluetooth on all the time and make frequent voice calls and get at LEAST two days of use from a single charge.
Are my experiences unusual is my device faulty do you think?
I would love to hear some views!
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Hi I would appreciate your views on an issue I am having with my Vodafone V1615 badged Kaiser.
I use bluetooth a lot, when I am in the car and out and about via bluetooth headsets or carkits. I am used to just leaving it switched on all the time, on other phones, with very little impact to battery life. But since I started using my V1615 as my only device I have noticed how it affects the battery life. I decided to do some simple scientific tests!
With bluetooth switched on and used all day my battery was warning me of imminent data loss by 5pm. Thats a poor 8 hours from a full overnight charge. This is only using the device for voice calls, no gps or web surfing. I do however have BlackBerry connect though.
This is really disappointing! My previous device was a Blackberry 8800, and I could quite happily use all of the functions (including GPS) leave bluetooth on all the time and make frequent voice calls and get at LEAST two days of use from a single charge.
Are my experiences unusual is my device faulty do you think?
I would love to hear some views!
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Have you actually used the phone all day with the same usage pattern with bluetooth off?
HSDPA with moderate data usage is about 16 hours of battery life. If you change it to EDGE, it more than doubles. This is from my experience, heavier data usage might make the numbers even worse.
I doubt it's actually bluetooth that's the problem.
It just does. It's like turning on lights in your house and asking why is my bill higher
I have the same problem with my tilt!! Mine drops from a FULL charge to 47% or lower in about 7 hrs and VERY little to NO usage!!.. No WIFI or GPS usage either!!
I thought it was a bad battery, so I bought a new one from AT&T but it's got the same results!!
I have no clue why this could be happening!!
I was having the same problem - my Tilt was at 30 percent at the end of my day - heaven help me if I forgot to charge it every single night.
I updated my phone to the ROM that you see in my signature and have 70-75 percent battery left now at the end of the day.
(9PM here CST now and I have 72 percent battery left after using the phone all day with bluetooth on all day.)
So - not sure what ROM you are on - but OBVIOUSLY the radio and ROM have a LOT to do with battery usage - I recommend that if you are capable you experiment with other ROMS.
Bill
whk said:
I was having the same problem - my Tilt was at 30 percent at the end of my day - heaven help me if I forgot to charge it every single night.
I updated my phone to the ROM that you see in my signature and have 70-75 percent battery left now at the end of the day.
(9PM here CST now and I have 72 percent battery left after using the phone all day with bluetooth on all day.)
So - not sure what ROM you are on - but OBVIOUSLY the radio and ROM have a LOT to do with battery usage - I recommend that if you are capable you experiment with other ROMS.
Bill
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Bill, that's really impressive!! I think I may just give the same ROM and Radio as yours a shot!
I Just did the HardSPL and am now ready to flash.. gotta look for that ROM now!
Thanks!
okay, I just flashed the Rom and Radio from the OEM AT&T Tilt WM6 to what I have in the signature and the difference in battery life has changed like day and night!!
Now, with good usage [ ~ 2 hrs talk with BT ON and some wifi ] I end up with about 65-70% charge LEFT around 11 pm [ start of day with FULL charge is usually around 9 - 9 30 am ]
I am EXTREMELY impressed and happy to have done this flash!!!
Hi,
I'm kinda newbie here and after I browsed couple of topics here, I think this forum is awesome.
Well, recently I want to buy a Bluetooth headset for my X1, maybe Jabra, or Jawbone. But I don't know if I use BT headset, will it do major impact of X1's battery life? The consumption of battery is acceptable?
by the way, if I use BT headset, will the bluetooth device (or chip) keep fully functioning until I shut it off? Or in case there are no data transfered between the cellphone and headset, they will enter some kind of "Sleeping Mode" to save the energy at the same time?
and please tell me if I want a long-lasting BT headset, with switchable ear piece, which model you recommand? DS205 is my only choice?
And Jabra JX10 is good?? I like it very much but I don't think it is as useful as DS205.
Thanks, and sorry for bad english...
Just saw a Plantronics Voyager 855, I think this one is good.
Link is here: http://www.mobilecomputermag.co.uk/20080205291/plantronics-voyager-855-stereo-bluetooth-headset.html
Your opinion?
Have not used BT headset with my X1 yet but normally it would put a little drain on the battery.
The Jabra JX10 is a perfect headset. Have used one for a long time.
I haven't noticed any significant battery drain. There is some, but it is not life threatening.
Depending on the bluetooth headset, I'd say you'll be able to listen for hours.
Last time I checked, I drained around 5% of my X1's battery while listening to an hour of music. Can vary ofcourse, but it wasn't bad at all. The X1's biggest drains are 3G, Wifi and the screen's backlight.
Wouldn't have guessed that anyone nowadays would hold up their phone to the ear anymore!
I only use bluetooth. So since my bluetooth is always on and my headset always connected, pretty good battery life!
I use the SE PV740 which lasts about 11 hours talk! The pphone is going empty at 10hours! Go figure
Since the phone is empty before the headset, no problem there. If I just use the phone for phone calls and since I only use the bluetooth, both last for days. After 1 day the phone is down to 80% and the headset doesn't even show a lower battery by then
When two devices are simply connected, there is minimal battery drain. when they are actually sending and receiving between each other, there IS much more battery consumption. Sorry, can't give figures for each modality or even explain the "standby" connection - but that's how it is.
Anyway, there are some good real-world examples above.
When two devices are simply connected, there is minimal battery drain. when they are actually sending and receiving between each other, there IS much more battery consumption. Sorry, can't give figures for each modality or even explain the "standby" connection - but that's how it is.
Anyway, there are some good real-world examples above.
well, thanks for the comments. will consider to invest.
please share your experience regarding Note's Battery life with Bluetooth Headset, for music playback
Is it good going for a blue tooth headset for listening music?
or wired headset is better?
Good sound quality... Good battery life... Go for Wired headset.
I have not found any issues. Battery use is obviously higher, but not so bad that I would not use it. I only use the wired phones when I am going somewhere with no bag and need a 'pocket' solution, as I find the wires irritating.
I have found BT to be choppy on every single device when the set is on the opposite side to my body. I think it is mainly me, and may be because I need to lose some weight (all that fat is getting in the way of the signal ). I have my phone on my left hip and every BT headset has the receiver on the right.
Interestingly, after rooting, removing bloatware and flashing the abyss kernel, I have no more of these issues. Unfortunately I do not know which of these made it better, but I suspect the kernel.
I use Bluetooth to listen to music during commute, I don't think you need to worry about Bluetooth usage affect the Note's battery life too much. The Bluetooth device will run out of battery long before the Note does.
Music quality through Bluetooth is not as good as through wire, but it is more than acceptable for use out and about in noisy enlivenment. Beside to be able to change volume and skip track without touch the Note is so convenient.
Hi, The bluetooth is always activated on my GN and the battery life stays great! I use a2dp bluetooth everyday to listen to my music in the car and with my bluetooth headset and i was surprised because it's the first Samsung battery that doesn't gets out of power until i get back home (I had galaxy Mini, Galaxy Ace, Galaxy S and S2...) So go for bluetooth headset, don't worry about the battery life you will be surprised about it
Finally, sorry about my english, it's not my native language
As a long time user of my mw600 Bluetooth and testing over months i can say that after listening to music for 10 hours straight my Bluetooth was only responsible for 2% of my battery drain. After listening to music for that long my battery was at 50%.
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niroc.sl said:
please share your experience regarding Note's Battery life with Bluetooth Headset, for music playback
Is it good going for a blue tooth headset for listening music?
or wired headset is better?
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Battery life seems unchanged, I have two Bluetooth stereo headsets a cheaper generic and the Jaybird Freedom. I use them mainly for audio books and music listening for two or three hours at a time. Occasionally I will also use the data connection and I think the battery drain is almost the same as if I'd not be using the headsets.
Hello everybody I I am currently using a Samsung Galaxy Note 9 but I am tempted to switch to the LG v40 I am curious as to how the battery life is. I would really appreciate it someone can please tell me how the battery life is before I make a decision.
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First full day with the phone, it lasted me from 6am to 11pm and I'm at 52% battery. I have 4 hours screen on time I'm pretty happy with it
Only had mine 3-4 days, but it has been fairly solid so far. With screen always on mode enabled, lots of calls/texts and music streaming (Bluetooth and wired) I easily get a full day from the battery. I thought I'd hate that I couldn't upgrade the battery, but I may not find the need with this device.
Coming from my LG G5 which had some of the worst battery life ever, this thing performs exponentially better.
As for actual results, similar to the other replies. It gets through the whole day, so long as I'm not having a long video binge session. Sips on the battery in idle.
clninja said:
First full day with the phone, it lasted me from 6am to 11pm and I'm at 52% battery. I have 4 hours screen on time I'm pretty happy with it
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52% at 11 PM? wow, even if one accounts for variation in usage, that is excellent!
I too am getting exceptional battery life...way better than any previous LG phone, including the V20 which I’m upgrading from.
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Started the day at 100%.
4.3 hours of screen time.
80+ texts
24 emails
Surfed two websites
Downloaded 28 more Podcasts
1.75 hours of WAZE
10.5 hours later and I'm at: 46% battery.
That's WAAAAAY better than I ever got with the V20.
SaintlySins said:
Started the day at 100%.
4.3 hours of screen time.
80+ texts
24 emails
Surfed two websites
Downloaded 28 more Podcasts
1.75 hours of WAZE
10.5 hours later and I'm at: 46% battery.
That's WAAAAAY better than I ever got with the V20.
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But that was all under WiFi right? How is it like when you are out and about on LTE all day?
clninja said:
First full day with the phone, it lasted me from 6am to 11pm and I'm at 52% battery. I have 4 hours screen on time I'm pretty happy with it
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Was that all on WiFi though?
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But that was all under WiFi right? How is it like when you are out and about on LTE all day?
Was that all on WiFi though?
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Good question ... and sorry for the late reply, I went scuba diving for 14 days and now catching up.
It was on a mix of WiFi and LTE. Looking back on it, it was 2 to 3 hours of WiFi in the morning hours (downloading Podcasts, early morning text and e-mails, the rest of the day was mostly LTE as I got on the road for 45 minutes each way (WAZE), talked on the phone at same time (Bluetooth earbud & mic), office work (no WiFi and I turn off Bluetooth while leaving WiFi on), back to the car (WAZE) to other office across town with Bluetooth earbud and phone time), check in, turn off Bluetooth only, surf a few sites, more e-mails and texts, then it sits for a while before back in car (WAZE & Bluetooth ear & mic) several calls later I'm at the gym and it's the same Earbuds while podcasts play for 90 minutes. Then home which is back to WiFi and wrap up e-mails, texts and surf a few regular sites and Instagram.
Hope that helps.
Hi,
I am getting 'Phone Idle' drain. My usage consists of both WiFi and LTE. Anyone facing the same or any fixes? I am on Oreo 8.1, model V405EBW.
Thanks!
navazsayani said:
Hi,
I am getting 'Phone Idle' drain. My usage consists of both WiFi and LTE. Anyone facing the same or any fixes? I am on Oreo 8.1, model V405EBW.
Thanks!
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could it be from apps running in the background?
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could it be from apps running in the background?
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I don't think so. I have disabled unused system apps and I used to use greenify but I uninstalled it considering that it might be messing with the system doze or sleep settings. But no luck yet, the phone Idle drain still exist.
Do you have phone Idle usage in your battery stats?
Thanks for reverting mate.
Regards,
SaintlySins said:
Good question ... and sorry for the late reply, I went scuba diving for 14 days and now catching up.
It was on a mix of WiFi and LTE. Looking back on it, it was 2 to 3 hours of WiFi in the morning hours (downloading Podcasts, early morning text and e-mails, the rest of the day was mostly LTE as I got on the road for 45 minutes each way (WAZE), talked on the phone at same time (Bluetooth earbud & mic), office work (no WiFi and I turn off Bluetooth while leaving WiFi on), back to the car (WAZE) to other office across town with Bluetooth earbud and phone time), check in, turn off Bluetooth only, surf a few sites, more e-mails and texts, then it sits for a while before back in car (WAZE & Bluetooth ear & mic) several calls later I'm at the gym and it's the same Earbuds while podcasts play for 90 minutes. Then home which is back to WiFi and wrap up e-mails, texts and surf a few regular sites and Instagram.
Hope that helps.
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That helps, thanks for the details