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How to have more free ram ??

Which kernel should i choose ??
i use DjangoManouche 1.5 now
i have a total of 330mb ram only
any good idea i can do

I believe you have 330 mb because the rest up to 512 mb is reserved for system apps. So you can use root explorer and go to /system/app and remove some system apps you don't use and reboot the phone. Just be careful not to touch stuff that is required for the phone to boot. And no, I don't know exactly which these apps are. But here is a tip: I always remove gallery, news and weather, all google apps, music player, stock email, navigation software if there is any, live wallpappers, file explorer (not before getting another though) and everything that's about visualization in general. These things are safe to remove.
And btw the amount of free ram is pretty much irrelevant to the phone's work because the kernel tries to utilize as much ram as possible and then it gives it away to ram requiring apps for the moment. I am just trying to say that you need not worry about free ram if the phone is working correctly. And if it's not it is most likely not because of used ram but some app is not behaving as it should and is using the CPU too much.

You should consider using a kernel that has OTF settings or a RAMhack. I recommend Etana but for some reason I love Temasek's Kernel. They both have the RAMhack option. It basically takes some of the RAM that is reserved for your GPU and makes it available for your device so you'll have more RAM for running applications etc. You shouldn't set the RAMhack too high though, 32mb/48mb should be fine. Additionally you could freeze some system apps that you don't need and use an autostart-manager in association with a task killer to kill applications and not allow them to restart themselves.
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xExabyte said:
You should consider using a kernel that has OTF settings or a RAMhack. I recommend Etana but for some reason I love Temasek's Kernel. They both have the RAMhack option. It basically takes some of the RAM that is reserved for your GPU and makes it available for your device so you'll have more RAM for running applications etc. You shouldn't set the RAMhack too high though, 32mb/48mb should be fine. Additionally you could freeze some system apps that you don't need and use an autostart-manager in association with a task killer to kill applications and not allow them to restart themselves.
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thank,
but Temasek and Etana's kernel can use in 20s?

complete123 said:
thank,
but Temasek and Etana's kernel can use in 20s?
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No.
And I heard that ramhack cannot be used with stock rom.
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googgiggs said:
No.
And I heard that ramhack cannot be used with stock rom.
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if some1 comes up with ram hack for stock based kernels ill be back to stock right away...

Gueste OC 1.8.1 stock kernel is awesome. Activate z ram in it and u will have really fast phone .
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heavencanwait said:
I believe you have 330 mb because the rest up to 512 mb is reserved for system apps. So you can use root explorer and go to /system/app and remove some system apps you don't use and reboot the phone. Just be careful not to touch stuff that is required for the phone to boot. And no, I don't know exactly which these apps are. But here is a tip: I always remove gallery, news and weather, all google apps, music player, stock email, navigation software if there is any, live wallpappers, file explorer (not before getting another though) and everything that's about visualization in general. These things are safe to remove.
And btw the amount of free ram is pretty much irrelevant to the phone's work because the kernel tries to utilize as much ram as possible and then it gives it away to ram requiring apps for the moment. I am just trying to say that you need not worry about free ram if the phone is working correctly. And if it's not it is most likely not because of used ram but some app is not behaving as it should and is using the CPU too much.
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What did I just read?
Don't do what was posted, you'll most likely break everything.
System apps uses system storage not ram. Deleting those apps will not give you more ram. But more system storage maybe.
Ram is used to save the current state of opened applications. Though the reason you only have 330mb left, is cause the gpu uses it as shared memory.
A ram hack is an option, as it reduces the amount of ram that goes to the gpu. But the use of a ram hack over 48mbs will break lots of things, such as recorder, camera and instability in games.
In all honesty, there is no use for a ram hack 330mb of ram is enough.
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If you use DjangoManouche you have ram profiles, another option are to use swap, the benefits, i'm not sure there are
Like a previous post said.....android are coded to use all ram except the amount needed for system to run smooth, apps you open will then be stored in ram which are the fastest "sd card lol". Next time you open its from ram. If you use many apps its useful with much ram. After reboot you start all over again. If there's a memory leak you can get issues like lagging Best solution are to choose a profile with much ram for apps and not much more than nessesary for system
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Use guestekrnl 1.8.1 and enable ZRam, works a charm. See my recent post in the flix123 v20s thread as well.

What are you planning to do with the free ram?

Sell it on Ebay! :good:

tonyp said:
Sell it on Ebay! :good:
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I was going to buy a new phone with it ):
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KoolSavas95 said:
I only have 70Mb free Ram. Using stock. Any suggestions?
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Get rid of stock, lol.
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Dear god, when will people learn that free RAM is wasted RAM?

Hard to get rid of Windows habbit lol
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To have more free RAM means it has to take some from the normally non accessible system dedicated RAM. This way your device has less RAM for things like graphics which can worsen video playback and record performance.
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The opinion free ram is wasted ram is wrong. you should realize it from daily use. its because when you have for example 70MB free and you open browser with some tabs, some game, etc. it closes other apps you dont want or it closes some of the tabs in browser and you have to load them every time you switch them. you need enough free ram to open what you want without system automatic closing other and under 100MB really isnt enough

Subhannn said:
Task manager
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Hell no!
tomsi91 said:
The opinion free ram is wasted ram is wrong. you should realize it from daily use. its because when you have for example 70MB free and you open browser with some tabs, some game, etc. it closes other apps you dont want or it closes some of the tabs in browser and you have to load them every time you switch them. you need enough free ram to open what you want without system automatic closing other and under 100MB really isnt enough
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Hell no!
This doesn't make sense. The system will get you the ram you need whenever you need it.
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want to enable swape ram in custom rom..

Hi guys,
i flashed zeus rom 6.39n two days ago
and tried to make swape file using swapper2
but always says fail...so it is supposed to be a custom rom
where every thing is possible
ao any help here ,,,

Swap is slow and your performance will suffer badly. Much better idea is to use memory compression from CM.

hatem 5000 said:
Hi guys,
i flashed zeus rom 6.39n two days ago
and tried to make swape file using swapper2
but always says fail...so it is supposed to be a custom rom
where every thing is possible
ao any help here ,,,
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Use an app called swapper 2 in Play Store. Its free. Note that this worsens the SDCard Life.
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SoulExertz said:
Use an app called swapper 2 in Play Store. Its free. Note that this worsens the SDCard Life.
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Did you read all?
He said that he couldn't use swapper2.
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RomWiz said:
Did you read all?
He said that he couldn't use swapper2.
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Oops.. i meant swapper. Without "2"
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As far as i know "swap" has to be supported by the Kernel.
And i think you dont need it cause there is enough RAM.

Mick2K said:
As far as i know "swap" has to be supported by the Kernel.
And i think you dont need it cause there is enough RAM.
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OB has a very weak RAM. Its 512mb is mainly eaten by Android. Leaving 200Mb+MAX left.
In average performance ROMs, it made OB leave with 160+ Mb
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Using the SD Card as a swap file is not a good idea. It's slow and will very possible make performance worse. In the KU5900 there is a partition for swapping on the phone itself and of course that kernel is built to handle it. The P970 can't be repartitioned to have a swap file on the phone itself, because it will make us lose space from userdata and we can't make the relevant changes to u-boot (We can make the changes to the partition header but then it won't boot ).
If RAM is a problem rather reduce RAM Usage by not having Widgets and not having millions of programs running in the background and use SuperChargerV6 that help a lot!

SoulExertz said:
OB has a very weak RAM. Its 512mb is mainly eaten by Android. Leaving 200Mb+MAX left.
In average performance ROMs, it made OB leave with 160+ Mb
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And that's not enough? I Think swap would'nt have a positive effect.
If that were so, there would have been someone implemented in its kernel.

Be careful with swapper, I used it and got perma-brick (the phone just didn't start, I could not enter s/w upgrade neither. I ended up paying 100 bucks for motherboard change.
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i already gave away using swap because what i heard about its harm
and i use original mem parametars of zeus 6.39 and its sooo good
and play any apps in parallel so easly

Which x8 gb rom gives more free ram?

Right now im using gdx and the low ram is verry annoying especially when it comes to multi tasking
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There is no such rom that u can say gives more free ram....
By the way , u can use ram manager pro and set the option that suites you...
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gingerdx v22 was the best for me when it comes to multitasking, ofc with alfs gdx kernel.
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VanillaDroid v3
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vanillaLVL said:
VanillaDroid v3
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true :good: :good:

vanillaLVL said:
VanillaDroid v3
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It's the best rom I have more RAM than many other roms

kasaev10 said:
It's the best rom I have more RAM than many other roms
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You may have over 100 free , but if the android dont know how to suck(only term found that fits , dont judge me) the best of it , the big free ram is useless.
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puya161 said:
Right now im using gdx and the low ram is verry annoying especially when it comes to multi tasking
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From your question it's obvious that you have no idea how linux or android use ram..
More free ram does not mean better multitasking.
What a stupid thread! Go and educate yourself before posting nonsense here.
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You may have over 100 free , but if the android dont know how to suck(only term found that fits , dont judge me) the best of it , the big free ram is useless.
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True MockingBird! All the other posters in this thread haven't a clue lol..

I think more free ram needed for play hardest games without swap. It's wrong? But for multitasking no need much free ram. It's right?

kasaev10 said:
I think more free ram needed for play hardest games without swap. It's wrong? But for multitasking no need much free ram. It's right?
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Google how linux uses ram.. It's too complicated to write in a few lines here..
The OP thinks of ram from a windows users perspective. Windows doesn't know how to use ram correctly.

CtrlAltDelIrl said:
Google how linux uses ram.. It's too complicated to write in a few lines here..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1228132 i think it in here somewhere

CtrlAltDelIrl said:
Google how linux uses ram.. It's too complicated to write in a few lines here..
The OP thinks of ram from a windows users perspective. Windows doesn't know how to use ram correctly.
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Thanks, I know it. And now I think that we needed for more total ram than more free ram

kasaev10 said:
Thanks, I know it. And now I think that we needed for more total ram than more free ram
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*facepalm*

RohinZaraki said:
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sorry

kasaev10 said:
sorry
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Dont apoligize. Learn up on Android and how it has been specially built to distribute RAM & memory. Info for those who dont know - unlike PC's, when we see very little RAM available (Settings/Apps/Running), its actually a really good thing. It means our system is ready with almost all apps preloaded. When you have 90mb+ of free RAM, you should be worried. Thats why i discourage many from using task killers and superchargers. It f*cks up how Android manages its RAM.
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RohinZaraki said:
Dont apoligize. Learn up on Android and how it has been specially built to distribute RAM & memory. Info for those who dont know - unlike PC's, when we see very little RAM available (Settings/Apps/Running), its actually a really good thing. It means our system is ready with almost all apps preloaded. When you have 90mb+ of free RAM, you should be worried. Thats why i discourage many from using task killers and superchargers. It f*cks up how Android manages its RAM.
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Thanks , but I never used any taskkillers and supercharger. I just use compcache and sometimes swap (only for gaming)

RohinZaraki said:
Dont apoligize. Learn up on Android and how it has been specially built to distribute RAM & memory. Info for those who dont know - unlike PC's, when we see very little RAM available (Settings/Apps/Running), its actually a really good thing. It means our system is ready with almost all apps preloaded. When you have 90mb+ of free RAM, you should be worried. Thats why i discourage many from using task killers and superchargers. It f*cks up how Android manages its RAM.
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Not entirely true. If you have 90MB+ of free RAM at boot, for example, you'll get a lot of cached apps. So, in a way, what you see is not entirely what you get. You only ever get that much true free RAM after executing a heavy (in terms of RAM consumption) app.

the best combination rom+kernel il gdx v29+alfsv08a.
i'm using now and its fantastic

puya161 said:
Right now im using gdx and the low ram is verry annoying especially when it comes to multi tasking
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for me ixperia 1.9 with nAa 13 was the best!

PrimeHD is the answer to your question.

Swap file possible?

I used roehsoft ram expander on my old wildfire buzz to create a swap file on my sd card to increase the ram memory and it worked pretty well.
Is it possible to use this with the same mini? I ran a test using an app from play store, screen shot below. It may not be accurate. It says the kernel isn't compatible.
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The reason for this may be because willy had a custom kernel and our device hasn't got a custom kernel, I came from wildfire aswell.
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Well maybe you're right although I tried to run ram expander and it says error no sd card. I set the correct location and it refuses to detect it.
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Do you realy need more ram?? 1gb is not enough?
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While the system + running apps is using around 400 - 600 mb sometimes more, I don't want to have to clean up every time I watch a high quality video via my tv or play a heavy game. Some games optimally uses about 500mb, etc. No 1gb isn't enough xd.
Yes I can use su boost via console and it isn't hard, but if I could have more ram wouldn't that be optimal? Who doesn't want more? Why not just stick with a old handset if 1gb is all you'll ever need. I bet a year from now you'll want more when 1gb is relatively small
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Yes you are right.
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So I guess the question is, what would need to be modified in the kernel to allow creation of the swap file in the SD? Things like this is making me interested in learning android development
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Have you look this all ready: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2087497

iKlutz said:
While the system + running apps is using around 400 - 600 mb sometimes more, I don't want to have to clean up every time I watch a high quality video via my tv or play a heavy game. Some games optimally uses about 500mb, etc. No 1gb isn't enough xd.
Yes I can use su boost via console and it isn't hard, but if I could have more ram wouldn't that be optimal? Who doesn't want more? Why not just stick with a old handset if 1gb is all you'll ever need. I bet a year from now you'll want more when 1gb is relatively small
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Then maybe you should've gone with Note II or a new PC. S3 Mini is not for gaming.

Don't like giant phones :-[
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Galaxy Mini slow

The device: Samsung Galaxy Mini GT-S5570
Anroid version: 2.3.6
Rom: emanoN V7
Using: SetCPU: 787 MHz Max 245 MHz Min
AutoMemoryManager: Mild
Link2SD: 1Gb partition SDext2
This phone has almost 2 years now, and a year ago I decided to improve it. However 5 major problems stil persist (I decided to create a separate thread for each one of them).
One of them is that the phone is most of the time very slow and dragging. All the important aspects are up there, before the text, and I would like to know why is it slow and what can I do to make the phone smoother. Please help me.

wilcocsjr said:
The device: Samsung Galaxy Mini GT-S5570
Anroid version: 2.3.6
Rom: emanoN V7
Using: SetCPU: 787 MHz Max 245 MHz Min
AutoMemoryManager: Mild
Link2SD: 1Gb partition SDext2
This phone has almost 2 years now, and a year ago I decided to improve it. However 5 major problems stil persist (I decided to create a separate thread for each one of them).
One of them is that the phone is most of the time very slow and dragging. All the important aspects are up there, before the text, and I would like to know why is it slow and what can I do to make the phone smoother. Please help me.
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Almost all your questions had already been asked and answered ! Use search button and don't spam.
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I would like to know why is it slow
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I can tell you why:
- I/WE don't know how many apps you have installed on it and how many process your phone is running
- Do you think that 700MHz+ is not wnough for runing smooter ?
If you have 1000+ apps installed or if you have to many processes running it is normal for your phone to run slower.

Yup, dont use useless apps, try to remove useless apps from /system/app
Dont use 768mhz, i use on 604mhz and have only useful apps, mine is also 2yr old, its running like it was when i brought it.
Try to free up some ram is main purpose
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vishal007 said:
Yup, dont use useless apps, try to remove useless apps from /system/app
Dont use 768mhz, i use on 604mhz and have only useful apps, mine is also 2yr old, its running like it was when i brought it.
Try to free up some ram is main purpose
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I've already cleard up some space and uninstalled some apps, but I believe that the problem may be related to the running processes as well. How do I keep track of them and control them to make shure that unnecessary apps are not running. Should I use some kind of task killer? I read that they may have negative consequences.

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I've already cleard up some space and uninstalled some apps, but I believe that the problem may be related to the running processes as well. How do I keep track of them and control them to make shure that unnecessary apps are not running. Should I use some kind of task killer? I read that they may have negative consequences.
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In that case use performance packages like ram manager pro, seeder etc
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In that case use performance packages like ram manager pro, seeder etc
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RAM Manager Pro worked perfectly. That was exactly what I was looking for, you solved this problem. Thanks.

wilcocsjr said:
RAM Manager Pro worked perfectly. That was exactly what I was looking for, you solved this problem. Thanks.
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Nvm
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