I have been messing about with my Exhibit 4G, updating it from the stock Gingerbread ROM to Cyanogen Unofficial 11 (KK 4.4). What can I say, it is like a new phone! So a big thanks to all those who write the mods and especially those who write clear and detailed instructions on how to do it!
My remaining frustration is SD storage. Do the apps that swap internal SD and external SD work with this configuration and, if so, which one should I install? Like a lot of people, I have a nearly empty external SD with LOTS of storage and a nearly full internal card and I have run out of apps that I can transfer to the external card.
On second thought
Disregard the previous message as I don't think SD card storage is the issue. I took a harder look into CM 11 and it seems my Phone storage is the one maxed out, not the internal SD. I suspect that pretty much ends the discussion as I don't think there is a way to expand that, correct? I have moved all apps that allow me to move them to the SD so unless there is a way to force the remainder to move, I think I am stuck.
The other option is to nuke CM 11 and replace it with SlimKat and a stripped down version of the Google KK apss. Does anybody know how much phone memory that saves?
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now to start for reference i may use the following terms
internal storage
internal SD
external SD
please note the difference.
This is also referencing the "official android" apps2sd as well as the other ones i have looked at.
in case you dont know any of the apps to SD methods have 1 goal:
to remove apps from the internal memory to an SD card, allowing more apps to be installed on systems.
most android devices dont have an internal SD, because of this the external SD is the normal place to store Apps to the SD card.
This is also where it stores any extra downloaded files (in case of large games) or user accessible files for apps (docs, themes, game roms, backups, config files) on phones without internal SD.
(All those folders that show up on your internal SD on a captivate.)
Now.... the captivate HAS an internal SD.
As far as i am concerned this was only half implemented correct.
THEY DID CORRECTLY now have the app downloaded files, and user interactive files i mentioned above moved to the internal SD.
THEY DIDNT (IMO) move Apps2sd, to the internal SD where it would make more sense.
- having apps on the any SD causes lag at boot, made further worse on the captivate because it mounts the internal SD, and scans it before it mounts the external SD and scans it, and this is where the apps are!
- also if you remove your external SD, you loose the apps.
- the internal SD is WAY more than enough to "want" to have more apps on more cards...
- this would free up the external SD to be PRIMARILY AND EXCLUSIVELY user files.
and remove the last bit of android files that can be removed by taking out an sdcard...
- the internal SD is a class 6 speed, faster than most external SD cards that most inexperienced users end up using.. class 4 ebay/amazon crap.
can we change this???
i dont see any reason why not, we have all the necessary sources for what handles this.
im not exactly running out of internal storage but some users actually do, and this just seems to make more sense.
any update on this?
From what i know currently about android and our cappy's, heres the info.
1. 1.8 GB of "Internal Phone Storage" is plenty enough for (Apps, Data, Contacts, etc.) . I have 312 apps on my phone and i still have 896 MB left.
2. As far as i know, the "Internal" SD of the captivate is partitioned into system, data, and is also the internal sd that you can put files in. So if it really was a Class 6 , despite the horrifying write speeds, it would make no difference because the "Internal Phone Storage" is a partition of the built in 16 gb of internal sd.
Again, i know nothing about how our phone works, but this is the info i know.
I never come near filling the internal storage, so I would not need this for space saving. But, it would make my weekly ROM flash a lot easier to not even worry about those apps.
Apps2insternalsd is an app I would pay for ... and I am not one to buy apps, less than 5 in the past year.
Sent from my Captivate running Continuum 5.6
So everytime you flash, you most likely have to use titanium to restore all apps. And I have about 40apps movable to the sd card.
I use 'app to sd free' which makes me click move to sd so many times and it takes a lot of time. plus I flash a lot so it really makes me sort of mad...
Now my question is why do we need to move it to sd? Is it simply for more space?.
I have a lot of leftover storage so is it necessary for me to move my apps to sd? Does it do anything else?
Or is there an app that moves everything with one click?
Sent from my Galaxy S captivate
Moving to sd is just more space for apps, more than the 2gb or so where they are normally installed. That's it.
Idk about any other apps to move in one click, all of mine are still in the normal place.
moving to SD is impemented wrong on the cappy IMO, goes to external SD instead of internal SD, on boot it scans that SD last and will lag the whole system until its finished scanning on most launchers.
and moving to SD is better on devices that dont have 2 GB internal storage
just not worth it for us.
TRusselo said:
moving to SD is impemented wrong on the cappy IMO, goes to external SD instead of internal SD, on boot it scans that SD last and will lag the whole system until its finished scanning on most launchers.
and moving to SD is better on devices that dont have 2 GB internal storage
just not worth it for us.
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+1
Not worth for a device like Captivate that has a huge storage space
LG Optimus 4X HD
At least on my fone, this is a problem.
There seems to be no way to move the Apps to the Phone SD card or External SD card.
I used several apps ( App2SD etct etc ) from Google Play.
They all show the installed Apps ON PHONE.
And offer the option to select which apps you want to move over to the Phone SD card.
But when I select the Apps to move , the option that comes up only shows two choices: FORCE STOP or UNINSTALL.
Nothing else.
Do these so called new power smartphones prevent any installed apps to be
transferred to the Phone SD card or External SD card ?
I heard from a friend that even some latest Samsung phones have similar limitation features.
Probably there is some technical reason behind this. Perhaps rooting is needed ?
Appreciate if anyone here could enlighten.
Thx.
Actually, app are installed on the sdcard directly. The sdcard is actually the phone memory. Perhaps you want to install app on your micro sd card or the external_sd. You'll need Link 2 SD for that one. Moving apps to sdcard option was removed in ICS.
http://www.chainfire.eu/articles/113/Is_Google_blocking_apps_writing_to_SD_cards_/
Agustus said:
LG Optimus 4X HD
At least on my fone, this is a problem.
There seems to be no way to move the Apps to the Phone SD card or External SD card.
I used several apps ( App2SD etct etc ) from Google Play.
They all show the installed Apps ON PHONE.
And offer the option to select which apps you want to move over to the Phone SD card.
But when I select the Apps to move , the option that comes up only shows two choices: FORCE STOP or UNINSTALL.
Nothing else.
Do these so called new power smartphones prevent any installed apps to be
transferred to the Phone SD card or External SD card ?
I heard from a friend that even some latest Samsung phones have similar limitation features.
Probably there is some technical reason behind this. Perhaps rooting is needed ?
Appreciate if anyone here could enlighten.
Thx.
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The LG 4X has a different memory structure than other Android devices I have used so far.
Normally an android device's integrated storage is partitioned like this:
-You get a program storage (1-2GBs if you are lucky)
-You get what's left of the integrated storage as SD card (minus the OS used space)
-You can add an external SD card which will be your... ermm external SD card
-In OTG enabled devices you can also add a USB storage
Now the difference in our LG 4X is that the manufacturer has opted to combine the program storage and internal storage into one storage location, thus saving us the trouble of moving apps to SD all the time and so giving as 12GBs of storage so we can use however we want.
In my Galaxy S with android 2.3.3, I can also move apps to external SD, but afaik this is not supported in ICS and JB, so yeah I concur your irony above, rergarding the super wow smartphones. Still I am sure there were various reasons for Google to not support it (and maybe moving to external SD was Samsung proprietary operation-not clear about that still)
psolord said:
The LG 4X has a different memory structure than other Android devices I have used so far.
Normally an android device's integrated storage is partitioned like this:
-You get a program storage (1-2GBs if you are lucky)
-You get what's left of the integrated storage as SD card (minus the OS used space)
-You can add an external SD card which will be your... ermm external SD card
-In OTG enabled devices you can also add a USB storage
Now the difference in our LG 4X is that the manufacturer has opted to combine the program storage and internal storage into one storage location, thus saving us the trouble of moving apps to SD all the time and so giving as 12GBs of storage so we can use however we want.
In my Galaxy S with android 2.3.3, I can also move apps to external SD, but afaik this is not supported in ICS and JB, so yeah I concur your irony above, rergarding the super wow smartphones. Still I am sure there were various reasons for Google to not support it (and maybe moving to external SD was Samsung proprietary operation-not clear about that still)
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App2SD was introduced in Android 2.2 (FroYo). However, different developer solutions were already around at that time (a2sd+, link2sd etc.), but they required an ext3/ext4 partition, while the build-in app2sd would move them to a folder (.android-secure) on the FAT32 partition. The app2sd feature was eagerly awaited because of the limited storage devices had back then (the Nexus One had 512MB internal memory, of which 447 were usable and ~150 MB were used for /system). Now with bigger internal storage and the different internal structure which is used since ICS (and which is also the reason newer devices use MTP), moving apps to external SD is no longer officially supported. So you'll just have to use a developer's way again, in our case it's Directory Bind. I haven't used it yet since I still have some free space left, but it was reported to work properly. Afaik it just moves the files to external SD and then links the folders. Root should be required, but I don't know exactly. Personally i'd root nevertheless, as it gives you some advantages (Ti Backup, Ad-Free etc).
psolord said:
The LG 4X has a different memory structure than other Android devices I have used so far.
Normally an android device's integrated storage is partitioned like this:
-You get a program storage (1-2GBs if you are lucky)
-You get what's left of the integrated storage as SD card (minus the OS used space)
-You can add an external SD card which will be your... ermm external SD card
-In OTG enabled devices you can also add a USB storage
Now the difference in our LG 4X is that the manufacturer has opted to combine the program storage and internal storage into one storage location, thus saving us the trouble of moving apps to SD all the time and so giving as 12GBs of storage so we can use however we want.
In my Galaxy S with android 2.3.3, I can also move apps to external SD, but afaik this is not supported in ICS and JB, so yeah I concur your irony above, rergarding the super wow smartphones. Still I am sure there were various reasons for Google to not support it (and maybe moving to external SD was Samsung proprietary operation-not clear about that still)
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Regarding OTG enable devices, I cannot understand why LG 4X doesn't support the OTG feature, it should be important to support it in order to make this smartphone a wonderful replacement of a computer (we may use external usb hard-disk or even external usb DVD/BR-writer).
Regarding internal/external sd card, if I use the command line "mount" inside a terminal, I see two lines including "/mnt/sdcard" and "/mnt/sdcard/external_sd" parameters. My question is: theoretically is it possible to swap the two a/m lines, so to mount "/mnt/sdcard" as external (the real external SD card) and "/mnt/sdcard/external_sd" as internal storage? If possible, how to do it? Root grants are enough to do it, or we need more to do it?
I don't know whether this question has already been asked here but since I'm a newbie and this Droid 4 is my only Android phone (all others are Windows Phones), I'd like to ask this one:
I performed the partition of my phone's memory and split it 50/50 so that I could boot into the stock ROM if something would go wrong with CM11 updates. Not the wisest move since I'm not using that stock ROM at all
OK, the memory of my phone (where I'm running CM11) is running out so therefore I'd need to know:
1) Is there a way to modify the partition afterwards without losing any information from the memory of my phone?
2) Is there a way to move apps from phone's internal memory and SD card (a.k.a. sd card 0) to an external SD card (a.k.a. sd card 1)? I have 64Gb micro SD where I could move lots of stuff if I'd only know how.
And my apologies if this question has already been asked here.
try foldermount from playstore...
I'm fully aware of that app but it's not free.
Any other choices???
well i can only recommend Foldermount since im using it myself and the basic features are free and satisfy my needs fully.
but hey, the full version costs only ~2 dollars or so...
Hi there!
I got the newest CM 13 nightly, but the problem is, that even with the new option to make room for apps on SD card, it doesn't work as advertised-the apps still install on internal space instead of the SD card, some even can't be moved to SD.
My question is, how do I move the whole partition where apps install to SD? I don't want half-baked solutions that break some apps because they're a application-layer-level hack. A how-to explaining how to move whole system to SD would also be appreciated, or how to expand the application partition to eat up some more internal space.
Before posting some questions, some regular answers:
-my SD is a very good 32GB pro+ samsung card, it's speed is comparable to internal mmc.
-you can tell me WTF straight and in depth, I'm a dev myself.
Thanks in advance for yar responses