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why old processor?

why have they put an old model processor in there? why not the MSM8255?
i am holding out for a little bit, i am due an upgrade now, but dont want to rush into buying this phone if something better is coming.
Plus want to see what modding can be done to the software / themes, 3rd party apps etc

t3rm3y said:
why have they put an old model processor in there? why not the MSM8255?
i am holding out for a little bit, i am due an upgrade now, but dont want to rush into buying this phone if something better is coming.
Plus want to see what modding can be done to the software / themes, 3rd party apps etc
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because Microsoft only support the "old" snapdragon .

why apple customers don't ask them the same question , they use the same GPU as what is in 3gs a year ago ,
a second thing wp7 is developed on the snapdragon which is more than enough for now with it's improved drivers and direct x 9 support , it will perform even 2x better than a DHD with 8255 processor

t3rm3y said:
but dont want to rush into buying this phone if something better is coming.
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Sorry I'm the one that had to break the news, but there is always something better coming...
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hoss_n2 said:
why apple customers don't ask them the same question , they use the same GPU as what is in 3gs a year ago ,
a second thing wp7 is developed on the snapdragon which is more than enough for now with it's improved drivers and direct x 9 support , it will perform even 2x better than a DHD with 8255 processor
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t3rm3y said:
why have they put an old model processor in there? why not the MSM8255?
i am holding out for a little bit, i am due an upgrade now, but dont want to rush into buying this phone if something better is coming.
Plus want to see what modding can be done to the software / themes, 3rd party apps etc
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I have an HD7, it is lag free and very responsive, I think the processor will be up to the task as long as the coding is optimal.

Because having the next most powerful processor isn't important. It doesn't matter what kinda specs a device is running s long as the device runs well. Apple has proved that.
And from what I have seen, MP7 runs beautifully.

Lorddeff07 said:
Because having the next most powerful processor isn't important. It doesn't matter what kinda specs a device is running s long as the device runs well. Apple has proved that.
And from what I have seen, MP7 runs beautifully.
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True that.

Old processor?
Maybe this is a bad news to you, but it's good to me cause of my hd2.

I probably would have been crying about the same thing, if technology was growing by leaps and bounds. But its not right now, technology is kinda stagnate as of lately. Yes, the HD7 has the same processor as its predecessor the HD2, but its not a bad thing. especially now that the new rom has came out for the HD2, it feels faster than ever (you can go on the HD2 and Leo boards to attest for yourself). Another thing to remember, is that the new Windows Phone 7, is not an OS that needs a 2Ghz processor to run buttery smooth. I think that we are used to the PC ideology that the next thing should have a higher number than the last, in order to be considered and respectable upgrade. But even those Intel and AMD processors, reached their, threshold for raw computing power (for now) and the companies are now refining their codes, and drivers, in order to utilize and maximize peak performance out of what they already have. (That's why 4Ghz desktop processors aren't mainstream yet)
Another thing is the WP7 is standardized with base set requirements for internal specs. I truly doubt that you'll find a noticeable difference between all the launch devices behavior with the OS, because of their processors. The mail screen might open up a little quicker on one device, but again, that could be a driver code magic for the display adapter in a particular phone, so the one that "wins" in our mind, should have been the "newer, speedier" processor but because of the refinement and more developed drivers, the one that displayed the inbox quicker was the "older" processor. (I hope you guys got that...lol)
So what I'm trying to say at the end of the day, is it really doesn't matter about the processor spec, because whats inside the HD7 is more than plenty to run the OS and its apps very very nicely.

Swiching To Lumia 800?

Somebody offered me a nokia lumia 800. Should i accept it? I mean it has 1.5GHz Qualcomm single-core processor and everithing else like the o 2X has exept the 5mp camera. What Do You THink?

Lumia has a 1,4Ghz CPU. And it's running WP7.5 :laugh: :laugh:
Lumia 800 has a slightly smaller screen (3.7 inches) than Optimus 2x (4.0 inches).
And where did you read that Optimus 2x has a 5 mp camera?
But honestly, I'd recommend you to stick with O2X, at least until we get a stable CM10 (if you're rooted) or the official ICS update rolls out

vanmarek said:
Lumia has a 1,4Ghz CPU. And it's running WP7.5 :laugh: :laugh:
Lumia 800 has a slightly smaller screen (3.7 inches) than Optimus 2x (4.0 inches).
And where did you read that Optimus 2x has a 5 mp camera?
But honestly, I'd recommend you to stick with O2X, at least until we get a stable CM10 (if you're rooted) or the official ICS update rolls out
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I reffered to the lumia 800 that it has 5megapixel camera not the o2x.....and what is the problem with the 7.5 os? the cpu is fine it is 1.5GHz and it is qualcomm why it is the o2x better? just because it has dualcore....I don't really like it beacause the games are not running in hd like asphalt 7 or nfs most wanted....and yes I have installed cm10 nightly and the phone is much more powerfull and fast smooth etc.....but i want gaming on the phone and I prefer windows phone os han android

ilooze said:
I reffered to the lumia 800 that it has 5megapixel camera not the o2x.....and what is the problem with the 7.5 os? the cpu is fine it is 1.5GHz and it is qualcomm why it is the o2x better? just because it has dualcore....I don't really like it beacause the games are not running in hd like asphalt 7 or nfs most wanted....and yes I have installed cm10 nightly and the phone is much more powerfull and fast smooth etc.....but i want gaming on the phone and I prefer windows phone os han android
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It looked as if you meant that the O2x had an 5mp camera, but anyway, who told you the Lumia 800 has an 5mp camera and 1.5Ghz CPU?
Full specs:
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_800-4240.php
As for the gaming, it's pretty much up to you. You're the one supposed to enjoy it so you should decide on that matter

vanmarek said:
It looked as if you meant that the O2x had an 5mp camera, but anyway, who told you the Lumia 800 has an 5mp camera and 1.5Ghz CPU?
Full specs:
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_800-4240.php
As for the gaming, it's pretty much up to you. You're the one supposed to enjoy it so you should decide on that matter
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ohhhh:laugh: first of all excuse me ) I readed the specs but i dont know why i wrote there 5mp camera and 1.5ghz sorry really sorry ) ......So the lumia has 8mp like the o2x better display the pixel density is bigger and it has Nokia ClearBlack display and qualcomm cpu.....I don't think that the lumia 800 is worse than the o2x the differences are the cpu, os and battery...do you think that the lumia is worse than o2x? and thank you for your answers

windows phone as i read a little in google lumia or windows phone is like apple that doesn't share their codes so this is a locked phone like apple they can't share files via bluetooth with other smartphone brand it's windows to windows only

grimmyrippy said:
windows phone as i read a little in google lumia or windows phone is like apple that doesn't share their codes so this is a locked phone like apple they can't share files via bluetooth with other smartphone brand it's windows to windows only
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this doesn't matter.....I didn't used the bluetooth so much so this thing will not affect me

ilooze said:
this doesn't matter.....I didn't used the bluetooth so much so this thing will not affect me
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It's not just the Bluetooth - the complete lack of an accessible file system in WP7.5 (and probably Wp7.8) means that you can't transfer files between a PC and the phone unless the PC has Zune installed (a la iTunes). And if you want to transfer files off the phone to a computer you don't own, and you can't install Zune on it, you're SOL. And if you want to connect the phone by USB to most stereos, the stereo won't be able to read the music files. This is a huge flaw that even BB7 and Symbian lack.
in other words, if you use your phone like a flash drive, avoid both WP and iOS like the plague.
WP8 Apollo addressed this flaw, with full UMS support, so if you're dead set on a Windows Phone, I'd recommend going for a WP8 model.
On a side note, the presence of an accessible file system in WP8 bumped it from a "fat chance" to a "maybe" on my future purchase list. While it's not as open as I'd like, I respect the fact that WP is somewhat "unified" in that OEMs aren't allowed to put awful skins on it, and that the specs are somewhat constant across the board which makes updates easier to optimize for a wide range of devices. If Android were to do this, it'd really be perfect.

I like lumia but i cant buy because have no money. Or else you gonna gave me free lols. Thanks if there someone gave is.
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ilooze, ask yourself this; what do I want that the O2X don't have? You know, just don't think of it as a phone LG made, but rather something that the developers on this forum extended to a point that LG isn't needed.
Use common sense and you'll realize that the O2X has pretty much everything you need from a phone.

Custom40 said:
ilooze, ask yourself this; what do I want that the O2X don't have? You know, just don't think of it as a phone LG made, but rather something that the developers on this forum extended to a point that LG isn't needed.
Use common sense and you'll realize that the O2X has pretty much everything you need from a phone.
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well...it has the nokia clearblack screen the 1.5ghz qualcomm processor...the os....the design....and better support...I know that this device wont get wp8 but anyway it is more supported than our o2x by LG not by xda-developers

I don't think it's a good idea to switch ,Windows phone is ios like ,VERY closed ,you can't do all the tweaks you can made on android ,you can't use your phone the way you like ,you can't use it as a standard Mass storage , the following of Nokia/LG will be the same ,the lumia is stuck to 7.8 .....no upgrades......:crying:
and to finish ,the Lg display is quiet good, and go to a smaller screen won't be comfortable fo you :cyclops:

ilooze said:
well...it has the nokia clearblack screen the 1.5ghz qualcomm processor...the os....the design....and better support...I know that this device wont get wp8 but anyway it is more supported than our o2x by LG not by xda-developers
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Official support doesn't matter if the support doesn't deliver functionality.
As of 2012, unmodded Android 2.2 (or even 2.1) is far more capable than WP7.8, and definitely stomps any version of iOS. Yes, it's nice that even the iPhone 3GS receives at least part of the iOS 6 update. But if that update doesn't bring its capabilities in line with the two-year-old Froyo, then what's the point?
Yes, the Lumia has awesome hardware and aesthetics, and if the aesthetics are a big selling point for you, fair enough.
Another caveat to watch out for - with WP7.5 and probably 7.8, the multitasking implementation is TERRIBLE. Their method of hibernating apps means that 3rd party apps that use push notifications are unable to function properly - you need to keep reopening the app every few hours to prevent it from "deep sleeping" and thus being completely unable to receive notifications. So if you open whatsapp once, then close it for a day or so without reopening it, any new messages you get after will never be received until you reopen the app manually. To be fair this method allows for good battery life and prevents the phone from lagging, but for those who rely on IMing this is unacceptable.
In other words, if you're a heavy user of Whatsapp, Google Talk, Facebook chat, etc then even Blackberry 7 is a better platform than WP. I did read that WP8 has proper multitasking so the problem may be solved there, but hey, it ain't coming to the old Lumias.
You don't have to be a "power user" (i.e. the kind who likes flashing custom ROMs) to benefit from the openness of Android vs WP or iOS. The issues of an inaccessible file system and poor multitasking affect everyone, not just us CM-obsessed types.
Btw, here's something ironic: Microsoft designed the Sync infotainment system in my car, which can read music off a USB device if the device is either Apple or it has an accessible file system. The only smartphone OS that can't connect via USB happens to be WP7, made by Microsoft.
edit: I hope you don't think I'm trying to badmouth WP as the devil... I acknowledge it has its strengths, and anyone who's comfortable with iOS, will be right at home with WP. However, someone who's used Android custom ROMs, is probably a different demographic and I'm just pointing out that WP isn't exactly suited for it, even less so than BlackBerry.

And old lumia after 1 update microsoft drop their support for it but in xda as long as their is important codes release by RC it keeps evolving and stabilizing, microsoft only support now for the new lumia 900 and the lumia in the future but the old ones? Never mind
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Remember, it's not just getting updates that's important, it's what comes in the updates that also matters. Ask yourself - that iPhone 3GS may have "excellent" update support, but do those updates actually make the phone better than android?

Lower end but good phones?

Hey all...
I am considering a Windows Phone 8.
But, I can't decide if a lower-end WP8 is worth the money. Take for example, an HTC 8S.
It costs 19,000 here. That's 350$. And even the LUMIA 820 is about 400$ though no official price is out yet.
My question, from a future perspective, are these phones worth buying? Or only the top end models will sustain what the future has to throw at it?
Like, for example: Already a couple of games are built with minimum 1GB RAM. 512MB of the 8S outdated already?
In short, is it an investment or a waste of money?
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The chance of the new WP8 devices being phased out soon(next 2 years or so) is really small, so buying a WP, regardless of specs, is a good idea. You will have support from MS and OEM.

I'd buy it again...
Depends on what you want.
If you need a buttload of apps, the 8s is not for you due to the tiny internal storage. If you play high-end games, it's not for you either due to the limited RAM.
I have 19 apps installed, never play games, but use the browser and other internet related apps all day long, and am extremely happy with purchasing the 8S.
I see from your signature you're running MIUI on your android. If your like me, that's because android is ugly, and for some reason just not cutting it, which leads to flashing all sorts of ROM's, trying to find that sweet spot of smartphone heavenness... I've found that in the midrange HTC 8S (who'd have thought?)! It has great battery life, great sound output, never lags, great build quality, great looks etc.
Also my personalisation 'OCD' is well satisfied with the extremely custimizable homescreen, which was a major concern for me. It does all this while maintaining an uniform look.
I am positively surprised by the HTC 8S, as well as by Windows Phone 8.
I'd buy it again in a heartbeat.

jodeltje said:
Depends on what you want.
If you need a buttload of apps, the 8s is not for you due to the tiny internal storage. If you play high-end games, it's not for you either due to the limited RAM.
I have 19 apps installed, never play games, but use the browser and other internet related apps all day long, and am extremely happy with purchasing the 8S.
I see from your signature you're running MIUI on your android. If your like me, that's because android is ugly, and for some reason just not cutting it, which leads to flashing all sorts of ROM's, trying to find that sweet spot of smartphone heavenness... I've found that in the midrange HTC 8S (who'd have thought?)! It has great battery life, great sound output, never lags, great build quality, great looks etc.
Also my personalisation 'OCD' is well satisfied with the extremely custimizable homescreen, which was a major concern for me. It does all this while maintaining an uniform look.
I am positively surprised by the HTC 8S, as well as by Windows Phone 8.
I'd buy it again in a heartbeat.
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Thanks a lot for your reply. It is just strange how u guessed it right that I have gone through a trazillion ROMs to arrive at one. Android IS ugly. In fact, after buying my OWN iPad Mini, (I got dad an iPad 2 for his birthday few months back) I realize what Android actually is, an UGLY twin of iOS.
Plus, the number of malware attacks, and the number of permissions granted by us to the apps is just scary.
Now coming to WP & 8S more specifically, the only thing worrying me is that some good games have already been developed that require at least 1GB RAM. The games that need 512 MB RAM look like student projects to me. That made me think twice. I haven't even bought the device and its outdated. I am not a gaming person at all. In fact, I am going to install not more than 10 apps, just like you.
The problem isn't LUMIA 820. The problem is I am in love with 8S.
And, god forbid, if 820 also becomes outdated half a dozen months later, I will be doomed.
But I get what you are saying, 8S is good. Period.
mcosmin222 said:
The chance of the new WP8 devices being phased out soon(next 2 years or so) is really small, so buying a WP, regardless of specs, is a good idea. You will have support from MS and OEM.
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2 years? I heard new devices will be announced in the upcoming CES 2013?
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Even if new devices come around, the "old" ones will not be phased out of support.
As far as games are concerned, the 8s is not exactly the phone that is aimed at gamers. You still have a lot of nice 512 RAM games, you just need to find them (99% of all apps in the marketplace are aimed at 512 devices). The biggest problem with the 8s is the storage size: out of 4 GB, at least 1.5 is taken by the system, and you can't install things on SD card.

mcosmin222 said:
Even if new devices come around, the "old" ones will not be phased out of support.
As far as games are concerned, the 8s is not exactly the phone that is aimed at gamers. You still have a lot of nice 512 RAM games, you just need to find them (99% of all apps in the marketplace are aimed at 512 devices). The biggest problem with the 8s is the storage size: out of 4 GB, at least 1.5 is taken by the system, and you can't install things on SD card.
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Thanks...i was wondering if any way to check how much RAM a game needs. The MS Store on the desktop browser shows everything but that.
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Applications you can't install are hidden by default in the marketplace.

[Q] Shall i buy lumia 520?

Hey first , i was allways an android user but lately i wanted to change phone...i own an xperia s pretty good phone but i want to change phone-os and i want to give windows phone a chance...so being also impressed by the looks - prossesor-price of lumia 520 i wanted to buy it.....but i have some questions
1) how is the overal experience from using it
2) will it be a good replacement for the xs? (i mean prossessing power and everyday tasks)
2a)is the gamimg laggy ?or if possible can u tell me if its better than xs
2b)is the screen quality good or my eyes gonna "pain" due to low resollution
2c) is 512 ram sufficient for wp or it wont handle 2-3 apps on the same time?(eg browser music and maps on the same time run ok? or they force close?
3)will it get further os updates or it will drop dead?
4)does marketplace have good high end games?
5)is there any way to sideload apps(like cracked apks on android)?

devilakos said:
Hey first , i was allways an android user but lately i wanted to change phone...i own an xperia s pretty good phone but i want to change phone-os and i want to give windows phone a chance...so being also impressed by the looks - prossesor-price of lumia 520 i wanted to buy it.....but i have some questions
1) how is the overal experience from using it
2) will it be a good replacement for the xs? (i mean prossessing power and everyday tasks)
2a)is the gamimg laggy ?or if possible can u tell me if its better than xs
2b)is the screen quality good or my eyes gonna "pain" due to low resollution
2c) is 512 ram sufficient for wp or it wont handle 2-3 apps on the same time?(eg browser music and maps on the same time run ok? or they force close?
3)will it get further os updates or it will drop dead?
4)does marketplace have good high end games?
5)is there any way to sideload apps(like cracked apks on android)?
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1) The overall experience with the 520 is fairly nice. I've had no problems with it. If you do buy it carrier-locked though, the unlock price is quite high which is why I sold mine and moved to a Huawei W1 which is quite similar and can be unlocked easily.
2) It depends on whether you prefer android or windows phone. The Xperia S is slightly more powerful and seems to have better specs overall, but in my experience, android phones seem to run slower than windows phone 8 phones with the same specs, so both experiences should be similar.
2a) I haven't tried gaming on it, so I can't answer that.
2b) The screen quality is good as far as being very vibrant. Some may find issue with the low resolution but I never thought it was a problem.
2c) The 512mb ram is definitely sufficient for 2-3 apps.
3) It will continue to be updated, at least until Windows Phone 8.1.
4) The marketplace doesn't have as many games as the iTunes store or Google Play store but there are some popular ones on there.
5) It is possible to sideload apps if you have a microSD card.

gdiddy320 said:
1) The overall experience with the 520 is fairly nice. I've had no problems with it. If you do buy it carrier-locked though, the unlock price is quite high which is why I sold mine and moved to a Huawei W1 which is quite similar and can be unlocked easily.
2) It depends on whether you prefer android or windows phone. The Xperia S is slightly more powerful and seems to have better specs overall, but in my experience, android phones seem to run slower than windows phone 8 phones with the same specs, so both experiences should be similar.
2a) I haven't tried gaming on it, so I can't answer that.
2b) The screen quality is good as far as being very vibrant. Some may find issue with the low resolution but I never thought it was a problem.
2c) The 512mb ram is definitely sufficient for 2-3 apps.
3) It will continue to be updated, at least until Windows Phone 8.1.
4) The marketplace doesn't have as many games as the iTunes store or Google Play store but there are some popular ones on there.
5) It is possible to sideload apps if you have a microSD card.
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pretty good....well i had 2 hold backs bout this phone 1) ram and multasking and 2) gaming(cause of the low ram) at least the one is gone and now if i see it is good on gaming i will definitely buy it... thank you for your help

Please go here for this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179

Are you thinking about changing from Note phablet to a Windows 10 phablet?

After the release of the microsoft lumia 950 it got me wondering. Wouldn't windows have even more features and customization possiblities compared to android? And maybe even better pen compatibility expierence?
Or is that bs because it is not open-source or something?

I like W10 but the store has much less apps than Android, like Snapchat which is not supported yet.

The 950xl intrigues me.
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Both Lumias 950 are intriguing to me and I must say I am seriously considering them but in the same time I am sceptical about apps and also that search button is rly annoying.
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Am way to stuck up now with android, I could never see myself move. Windows was my first smart phone, but android has advanced and developed so much since then. For instance for me, apps like titanium backup, gaming on Android, chrome integration and SwiftKey. Those apps make life so much easier for me. I suppose if windows came with complete xbox gaming like for instance nvidia grid. Then it would have expected attracted me, but listen nah am sticking with android.

Noooo way... the apps are almost non-existent on W10

Daily I don't use so many apps, so I wouldn't have any problem switching to a lumia. But the quality of apps is not comparable to android ones. Another feature I would really miss on a wp is all google services (yes, they suck a lot of battery but whatever).
So, no. Even if 950xl really is something.
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changing from Android to Windows (phone/mobile/whatever?)
this must be a joke!
Of course no. No way! Especially after all false promises and failures of Microsoft with Windows Mobile 6.5, Windows Phone 7, 8 etc.
the interface is ugly and has low usability. Apps quality and quantity - non-existent (in comparison with Android).
I do not need a windows mobile device even for free.

Certainly not. Only way to go from android is to iOS. Windows phone in real life, is as usable as a brick.
Sorry if i shift platforms, i want usable apps. Nothing that i use is present on windows, specially google services.

Well i sorta did this allready, i'm using a Lumia 930 as my "phone" and my Note 4 as my "play" device for games and the GearVR (big cinema screen for watching movies and series).
For work i use a Surface Pro 3 and offcourse at home a Windows 10 desktop for gaming.
So even if microsoft has the app gap they still rule PC land and with universal apps in Windows 10 they are getting the biggest userbase for their apps. The ball lies now with the developers of apps.