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People actually put these phones in the same category and compare them? Why?
Motorola X = dated hardware and overpriced. I don't care how much you can customize it. it's hardware doesn't compete with any modern smartphone. S4 Pro, in Fall 2013? pass.
it's hardware competes the with the Nexus 4 I guess, you could compare them, but at the price points again why bother.
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Was my tone poor, sure I'll agree and apologize to that. I personally do not find the Moto X in the class of the HTC One / GS4, let alone G2/N5. My opinion, but I could've worded it better/less argumentative. (based on personal real time usage, not JUST specs).
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So My apologies. That was a poor decision on my part, I do however stand by my opinions.
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People actually put these phones in the same category and compare them? Why?
Motorola X = dated hardware and overpriced. I don't care how much you can customize it. it's hardware doesn't compete with any modern smartphone. S4 Pro, in Fall 2013? pass.
it's hardware competes the with the Nexus 4 I guess, you could compare them, but at the price points again why bother.
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when you speak like that it is obvious you have never owned the MOTO X or actually used it for a length of time. Also it is obvious you didnt watch the video. PS I have owned all those phones( G2, S4 Note 2 etc ) and the MOTO X trumps them all even the Nexus 5 I just returned
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when you speak like that it is obvious you have never owned the MOTO X or actually used it for a length of time. Also it is obvious you didnt watch the video. PS I have owned all those phones( G2, S4 Note 2 etc ) and the MOTO X trumps them all even the Nexus 5 I just returned
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I don't really know what to say, you clearly have a biased opinion towards the MOTO X.
That said, Look at my sig. Does it look like I have not tried phones or have a base for my opinons? I did not purchase a MOTO X because I tried it for a few hours in the store and used a buddies and had no interest. It is pretty smooth for an S4 Pro I'll give it that. Battery and performance still cant touch a G2 and overall I am still left with no desire whatsoever to own one.
You can love it all you like, that is what choice is all about. To say it trumps a G2/N5 or even an HTC One/S4 is just plain biased crap. Sure it has it's +'s against each one, but trumps? Definitely not.
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I don't really know what to say, you clearly have a biased opinion towards the MOTO X.
That said, Look at my sig. Does it look like I have not tried phones or have a base for my opinons? I did not purchase a MOTO X because I tried it for a few hours in the store and used a buddies and had no interest. It is pretty smooth for an S4 Pro I'll give it that. Battery and performance still cant touch a G2 and overall I am still left with no desire whatsoever to own one.
You can love it all you like, that is what choice is all about. To say it trumps a G2/N5 or even an HTC One/S4 is just plain biased crap. Sure it has it's +'s against each one, but trumps? Definitely not.
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how is it biased? have you used those phones and compared and contrasted them? No you have not. I have and no matter the specs that spec whores continue to tout the moto X is smoother, more fluid and works all the time. The features it has trump all the gimmicky features from most of these other more powerful phones
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how is it biased? have you used those phones and compared and contrasted them? No you have not.
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That said, Look at my sig. Does it look like I have not tried phones or have a base for my opinons? I did not purchase a MOTO X because I tried it for a few hours in the store and used a buddies and had no interest.
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Did you bother to read what I said? I HAVE used them and compared them. I own a G2 and N5 and have spent hours with the MOTO X. I don't own one because I find it quite inferior. It has some neat features, sure. But battery, performance, price, and value leave much to be desired.
Like I said it is all about choice. If you say YOU prefer it, than fine. But if you want to use words like "TRUMPS" when comparing the Moto X to a G2/N5/HTC One/S4 you better be prepared to have something to show for it other than your biased opinions of features and ignoring the fact that it is significantly slower with a subpar screen and average battery life (no where near G2/S4/NoteIII). then you throw in $480 vs $300 for 16gb. in the N5 battle... yeah there is no way the Moto X comes close at $180 more, let alone "trumps".
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Did you bother to read what I said? I HAVE used them and compared them. I own a G2 and N5 and have spent hours with the MOTO X. I don't own one because I find it quite inferior.
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thats fine but you can not call my opinion biased being that I came up with a different conclusion as you
Lol fellas it's all good you both have valid points. The Moto X is really loved, seems to me that anybody that owns that phone really likes it. But I'm not sure it"trumps" the HTC one, S4 and G2.
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People actually put these phones in the same category and compare them? Why?
Motorola X = dated hardware and overpriced. I don't care how much you can customize it. it's hardware doesn't compete with any modern smartphone. S4 Pro, in Fall 2013? pass.
it's hardware competes the with the Nexus 4 I guess, you could compare them, but at the price points again why bother.
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True, but the moto X performs like a champ.
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The Moto X is a great phone, but I don't see spending $200 more for it.
It has good battery life, average camera, average build quality, average speaker, etc. (The nexus 5 is likely on par with all of it, better in some, worse in some). Lets be real, the key selling points for the moto X are the always listening feature, active notifications, and customizability. NOT the amazing hardware, low price, etc.
It has some unique software features, but I'm not too interested in any of them (the active notifications is cool, and only practical on an AMOLED screen).
If I was the average consumer, buying an on-contract phone I would consider both the $149 Nexus 5 and the $199 Moto X. Off-contract, I can't picture anybody in their right mind spending $550 for a moto x over $350 for a nexus 5 (I think side by side, nobody would choose the moto x for $200 more).
Some key points though, I am not an average consumer nor am I buying the phone on-contract.
Never the less, it's a fair comparison for a lot of people since most people are average consumers, and a fair amount will be looking at on-contract (maybe down payment price for t-mobile, don't know) phones exclusively.
really good video, brings up a lot of valid points
if they were the same price I'd still lean towards the nexus, however if Motorola had released the x at a similar 16gb-for-$350-unlocked months in advance I would have snagged one no question
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Lol fellas it's all good you both have valid points. The Moto X is really loved, seems to me that anybody that owns that phone really likes it. But I'm not sure it"trumps" the HTC one, S4 and G2.
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True, but the moto X performs like a champ.
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Once again people come up to different choice or viewpoint. what bothers me is that if GOD forbid someone believes the MOTO X trumps those other phones specs or not this is the reaction they get. I posted this on the Nexus 5 forum because i sent mine back and this echoed my sentiments almost to the T so i figured it would be helpful for people one way or the other
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The Moto X is a great phone, but I don't see spending $200 more for it.
It has good battery life, average camera, average build quality, average speaker, etc. (The nexus 5 is likely on par with all of it, better in some, worse in some). Lets be real, the key selling points for the moto X are the always listening feature, active notifications, and customizability. NOT the amazing hardware, low price, etc.
It has some unique software features, but I'm not too interested in any of them (the active notifications is cool, and only practical on an AMOLED screen).
If I was the average consumer, buying an on-contract phone I would consider both the $149 Nexus 5 and the $199 Moto X. Off-contract, I can't picture anybody in their right mind spending $550 for a moto x over $350 for a nexus 5 (I think side by side, nobody would choose the moto x for $200 more).
Some key points though, I am not an average consumer nor am I buying the phone on-contract.
Never the less, it's a fair comparison for a lot of people since most people are average consumers, and a fair amount will be looking at on-contract (maybe down payment price for t-mobile, don't know) phones exclusively.
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Absolutely, right on the money.
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Moto X is just a big joke. Those hardware specs belong to before world war II era.
Is it just me, or does the dude in the video sound like he's trying to do a Ron Swanson impression?
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Once again people come up to different choice or viewpoint. what bothers me is that if GOD forbid someone believes the MOTO X trumps those other phones specs or not this is the reaction they get. I posted this on the Nexus 5 forum because i sent mine back and this echoed my sentiments almost to the T so i figured it would be helpful for people one way or the other
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Saying the Moto X TRUMPS the N5 is not a statement of opinion. You are stating it like fact.
You absolutely unequivocally can not say that at $180 more (16gb vs 16gb) the Moto X TRUMPS the N5 with how much slower it is and a severely inferior screen. Why does it trump the N5? Because of some features? I think not. I am sorry but that is just ridiculous.
Again is it a winner FOR YOU, OK. But trumps the N5? *laugh* Even at an even price point I personally would take the N5 all day long personally, but even then I could hardly call any of them trump.
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Moto X is just a big joke. Those hardware specs belong to before world war II era.
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Specs aren't everything. If the Moto X is capable of providing a good user experience with the specs it has then it's fine for the audience it was intended for. The biggest problem with the Moto X isn't (wasn't) specs, it was it's price.
I know more than one person who I have a lot of respect for who prefers the Moto X to the N5 for personal reasons, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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Saying the Moto X TRUMPS the N5 is not a statement of opinion. You are stating it like fact.
You absolutely unequivocally can not say that at $180 more (16gb vs 16gb) the Moto X TRUMPS the N5 with how much slower it is and a severely inferior screen. Why does it trump the N5? Because of some features? I think not. I am sorry but that is just ridiculous.
Again is it a winner FOR YOU, OK. But trumps the N5? *laugh* Even at an even price point I personally would take the N5 all day long personally, but even then I could hardly call any of them trump.
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No your assertion that my conclusion is ridiculous is what is ridiculous SIR! The moto X has a better in hand feel, better software, fast as any other phone N5 included, software just works and the added features touchless controls, active notifications, moto assist , moto connect are truly usable and value added features unlike the other phones. You people who are caught up in the specs are exactly what these manufactures want this way they can convince you in 6 months you need a new device! The usability and functionality of the MOTO X outweighs any spec for me and many others it TRUMPS those phones. Just ask Metalhead or others whom have both the N5 and Moto
yup price is moto x's big downfall
given they are now going for $99 on contact they missed a big opportunity with the launch price imo
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Specs aren't everything. If the Moto X is capable of providing a good user experience with the specs it has then it's fine for the audience it was intended for. The biggest problem with the Moto X isn't (wasn't) specs, it was it's price.
I know more than one person who I have a lot of respect for who prefers the Moto X to the N5 for personal reasons, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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Us android fans are very funny. When it comes to iphone we attack iphone users by mentioning specs. When it comes to our devices we say specs are not important. Yes specs are very important and yes it was overpriced because it had crappy processor.
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Specs aren't everything. If the Moto X is capable of providing a good user experience with the specs it has then it's fine for the audience it was intended for. The biggest problem with the Moto X isn't (wasn't) specs, it was it's price.
I know more than one person who I have a lot of respect for who prefers the Moto X to the N5 for personal reasons, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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Thank you and i will say this about the price, for me I am willing to pay that extra 100+ because it is assembled in the USA and its an american company giving americans jobs
So I currently own a S4 on Verizon. I've been wanting the X and my dad said he'd buy my S4 and I found someone with a brand new Moto X 16 gb for $300. I really love the design, nexus like look, and special features of the X. I've played with one at best buy an it is really fast. I'm just worried about a new one coming out soon. I know there will always be new technology but since this has been out for a few months, I'm skeptical. Also the 16gb worries me. I think I've read you're left with 11gb new. I just feel I'm going backwards lol
So I figured I'd ask the users of Moto Xs and see what you guys think. Not really asking if its better than the S4, just if its smart or not to get one at this point. It actually won't cost me anything an I'd actually make some money from selling my dads current S3.
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The trend for Apple and Samsung has been to release a new phone every year (so we should officially hear about the Galaxy S5 in March)
Considering the Moto X hit USA Carrier shelves starting in the tail end of August, if Moto follows that "new release every year" trend, then you're not even halfway through the X's shelf life yet. (only about 4 months of 12).
So if you're just worried about "timing" and you like the phone, then get it... otherwise consider....
Coming from a Galaxy S4, consider the smaller screen. Can your eyes adjust? Non-Removable battery (but the X has better life than my VZW GS4), Camera differences (at first GS4 was noticeably better, but with the recent updates, the X's camera matches the GS4's outdoor and good light abilities, it still lags in low light a little), no removable memory slot (so your MP3's, pix, videos have to take up space in the X's main memory).
Out of the box, a 16gig demo X I had for a while had more memory/storage available than my 16gig GS4 (11gig vs 9). I would still opt for the 32gig model X due to lack of removable Micro-SD slot if you want to keep stuff locally on your phone. That being said, I have friends who got 16gig models, haven't filled them up, and are perfectly happy. Me, I have 7 gig of music on my phone and take lots of pictures of my son (who just turned 5).
The X is my daily driver. I get phones free for my job and for a while via the VCC (don't ask) for personal use. (full list of my phones is -> HERE) The X was the first phone *I purchased* since I got my Moto E815 back in 2006. After using a carrier supplied 16gig Demo X for two months, I purchased the Dev Edition X for Verizon (full price) in early November, and its been my daily driver since. If you look at my phone list, and consider an X (first the demo and now my Dev X) has been on my personal line since early September when I originally got the demo X, you should get an idea of how much I like this phone.
I lived with a 16gb Nexus 4 for a year and unless you have a large music collection, keep many movies on your device or download many 1gb+ games then you will be fine with 16gb. I hovered around 5gb left while keeping one or two full backups as I was flashing roms alot on the N4, that said I was deleting stuff on a regular basis to keep memory free.
If you plan on rooting I would personally recommend the Developer Edition, unlocking and gaining root is very simple and you retain your full Motorola warranty even after unlocking. It is also 32gb, selling the S3 & S4 you should be close to it not costing you anything.
Thank you guys a lot. Very nice info. Yeah, timing is a good reason I was hesitant to pull the trigger. But knowing its still not half way through is nice to know.
Smaller screen, I believe I can adjust. I didn't have any issues when I played with it in best buy. Now I'm sure I'll realize it more as I use it more but I think it'll be okay. Its more knowing I'm going from 1080p to 720, but I know its not a huge difference an really only noticeable if you set the devices next to one another. I don't store anything on my phone. All music is through Google music. Though I keep a couple playlists of about 100 songs each stored on phone through Google music, but not a huge deal since I have unlimited data. I also never change out batteries so the removal one isn't a deal breaker.
Lastly I Dont bother rooting my phones anymore cause I always end up tinkering too much lol so I just want a solid, fast device. I'm just tired of Samsung's slow UI cover. Plus I hear so much praise on the X with its features that I want to try. Just worry downgrading in specs but I know performance is just as good as the S4. Main thing is the screen I guess.
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The colors on the Moto X are better imo as well as many other people then the S4. As far as specs just remember this might be the first time the software and hardware have been trully optimized for Android, when that's done there is no need to use more processor cores just like Apple has been doing with I-phones.
I have been a flashing junkie since I bought an original Droid, I rooted my Dev Edition for the main purpose of using Titanium Backup for games and apps in case there is a bad update in the Play Store. I found using Xposed with the Gravity Box module gave me practically every option I usually looked for in a rom while using the stock software, I have since flashed all my families devices back to stock and use Gravity Box.
I don't think you have to worry about Moto releasing a new phone until late summer/fall, they know that style of releasing phones every few months doesn't work for them as it does for Samsung. Producing quality handsets and supporting them with very fast updates is winning Motorola new/past customers and the way they are treating the Android community is something that the other OEM's should strive to emulate.
Yeah the internal specs Dont bother me much because the I know the performance is still top notch. Its mostly the the screen adjustment and going for a 5" screen to 4.7". But I think itd be nice to be able to use my phone again with one hand lol my S4 I can do most things one handed but there are still definitely instances where I need two.
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Yeah the internal specs Dont bother me much because the I know the performance is still top notch. Its mostly the the screen adjustment and going for a 5" screen to 4.7". But I think itd be nice to be able to use my phone again with one hand lol my S4 I can do most things one handed but there are still definitely instances where I need two.
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If you decide to buy, I have a way to knock $50 off for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617346
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If you decide to buy, I have a way to knock $50 off for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617346
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Thank you so much but I'd be buying it from someone off Craigslist for $300, brand new in package. But I appreciate the offer.
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I don't see how the Moto x2 could be much better. LOL
Plus it'll cost way more.
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Absolutely. The X is the first phone I don't really care what the internal specs are or feel compelled to switch to CM or any other roms. I love it.
S3 ->Note 2 -> s4 -> HTC one -> nexus 4 -> moto x
My point is I've slowly downgraded the spec sheet and have no regrets. Comparing apples to apples. Every device listed was running AOSP/AOKP/CM and the last 2 phones have been by far the smoothest even though on paper they don't quite stack up to the others. Battery life is above average but not great in my opinion but the ergonomics of this phone is one of the best I've had in a long time
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Best phone I've ever owned. It's so fast and fluid even with the "inferior" specs. Not only that, but coming from a Droid DNA with its 1080p screen, I prefer the Moto X screen with the much nicer colors and I can't even tell the difference in resolution.
Get the Moto X.
Putting in my 2 cents,
I have had a Galaxy note 2 with a 5.5in screen for the past year. I love the phone, mostly due to the amazing battery life and the large screen.
I bought my wife a Moto X last week. I have since rooted it, and have been tinkering with it. I gotta say, I want one. I don't really mind the difference in screen size that much. Battery life is just as good, if not better (remains to be further tested). Always on voice controls are super cool. And you have kitkat.
I wouldn't pay attention to the so called "specs". Yeah it's a dual core compared to my quad core Note 2, but in reality it is just as snappy (if not snappier)
Plus, my Note 2's compass sensor has always been dysfunctional. It never was steady, just jumps around. When I saw Windy Day and how flawlessly it worked with the built-in sensors, I was blown away.
I think Motorola is on the right path. With the recently lowered prices, near stock experience and the unlocked developer edition (on Verizon, which I still can't believe those bastards allowed it) Moto X is an awesome phone with great value. I especially like that Moto is going for improving the overall experience rather than getting into a pissing contest over specs.
I hate, really *HATE* Verizon, but let's face it, they have the best LTE network and I still happen to have unlimited data. I especially hate their practice of not letting anybody else sell devices that are compatible with Verizon's network (ie. Nexus 7). I hate the fact that I can't simply buy a cheap new phone from the manufacturer, but instead have to buy them from Verizon or their approved vendors like BestBuy for much more than what they would cost direct from the manufacturer.
I honestly can't believe that Motorola was able to price the Moto X at $399 with no contract on Verizon. Verizon likes to say that the phones actually cost $700 but you're getting a $400 discount when you sign a contract and pay $300 for the phone, when in reality, the phone would cost $400 and you're only getting a hundred bucks for signing the contract. Kudos to Moto. I hope it sets the stage for other manufacturers
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Its mostly the the screen adjustment and going for a 5" screen to 4.7".,
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Coming from a Note 2, the adjustment wasn't difficult at all. The only thing I miss is multi-window.
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Coming from a Note 2, the adjustment wasn't difficult at all. The only thing I miss is multi-window.
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Verizon has the moto x for 50 bucks right now with a 2 year contract. I just bought one for my son. My wife and I both have the DE phones I paid 450 each on motorola.com...I have unlimited on both. Best phone I have ever owned hands down.
Well my original offer fell through but I'm suppose to be getting a 32gb version tomorrow for $350. So fingers crossed!
I never use multiwindow on my S4 so won't miss that. And the IR blaster, very cool but I only use when screwing around with friends TVs lol I think in the end, the moto x has more useful extras than the galaxy devices.
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If you're worried about space, it does come with 50gb added to your drive storage on Google
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Yeah true. Well since I'm gonna get a 32gb version, I should be set.
I just hope this phone doesn't show its age too soon. Just read an artical comparing the nexus 5 and X. Talking about the X showing its age quicker. Which is obvious since the nexus 5 has upgraded processor, etc. But just hoping I don't slow downs in speed and use in a year from now.
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This phone is hands-down the best that I've ever used. Not only in performance, but features too.
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Yeah true. Well since I'm gonna get a 32gb version, I should be set.
I just hope this phone doesn't show its age too soon. Just read an artical comparing the nexus 5 and X. Talking about the X showing its age quicker. Which is obvious since the nexus 5 has upgraded processor, etc. But just hoping I don't slow downs in speed and use in a year from now.
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If you have the mindset about not getting a phone because its going to be outdated or not the newest, shiniest in a year your never going to get a phone!!!
The phone cycle is practically six months or so.
To be honest, phones are hitting their critical ass point ad far as specs go. When all these reviews talk about this phone is faster than that one they're talking millisecond at this point.
Find a phone that you like size wise, screen looks good to you and just buy it.
If you don't ur always gonna be waiting for the next new thing.
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I've been going back and forth between the Moto X and HTC M8 for a while, and I'm really not sure which one to buy and play around with. I have a $60 off .edu coupon for the X so that would bring it to $390 as compared to $650 for the HTC M8. I've got a pre order for the M8 right now, and I can cancel until Wednesday this week. I'm not sure about the fact that the Moto X is getting kinda old, but the Active Listening is soooo cool. I've used both and I really couldn't pick a favorite.
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Is the Moto X still a worthy purchase being a little over halfway through it's life cycle?
Thanks!
I still think my X is the best phone I have. Its responsive, and fits my hand best, and works best for single handed operation. I had a One (M7) 30demo before the X. It was ok, but wasn't comfortable and felt clumsy in my hand. With the One (M8) having a larger screen, single handed use would still be an issue for me.
(I'm 6'1" with average sized hands for someone this height)
Having the faster processor, screen, possibly better camera, makes the One (M8) attractive. but comfort in every day use is main sticking point for me.
As for the X being old. Yeah, its about 1/2 through its life cycle since Moto said they were working on a replacement. But I still think its a great phone.
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I still think my X is the best phone I have. Its responsive, and fits my hand best, and works best for single handed operation. I had a One (M7) 30demo before the X. It was ok, but wasn't comfortable and felt clumsy in my hand. With the One (M8) having a larger screen, single handed use would still be an issue for me.
(I'm 6'1" with average sized hands for someone this height)
Having the faster processor, screen, possibly better camera, makes the One (M8) attractive. but comfort in every day use is main sticking point for me.
As for the X being old. Yeah, its about 1/2 through its life cycle since Moto said they were working on a replacement. But I still think its a great phone.
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Thanks for the insight! I used the M8 at the Verizon store and found it was much easier to use than the M7 one handed. I'm sure the Moto X has better single-hand operation, but it is greatly improved on the M8 (I'm 6'3" with pretty long fingers). I will surely buy the Moto X 2, it's just deciding on the phone that will hold me over until then . With the S801, I think the M8 and X are about the same in responsiveness (Moto was ahead for a while with S600 chips in phones), but the M8 still has a superior screen.
How often do you use the Active Listening voice control?
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Thanks for the insight! I used the M8 at the Verizon store and found it was much easier to use than the M7 one handed. I'm sure the Moto X has better single-hand operation, but it is greatly improved on the M8 (I'm 6'3" with pretty long fingers). I will surely buy the Moto X 2, it's just deciding on the phone that will hold me over until then . With the S801, I think the M8 and X are about the same in responsiveness (Moto was ahead for a while with S600 chips in phones), but the M8 still has a superior screen.
How often do you use the Active Listening voice control?
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I agree with kidjoe, I've used an M7 not M8 and after reading the glowing reviews for the M7. I was shocked how everything was average, from battery life to Ultra Pixel camera
Here are the pros vs cons for my Moto GSM Unlocked version
PROS
-Fits great in hand
-voiceless controls work wonderful even in semi noisy environments
-the contour of the phone
-Active display really is superb
-Battery life, I get 3-5 hours screen on with moderate usage, battery always last a day, and running 4.4 it's a beast in standby! 4.2.2 eeehhh..
-Moto customer service is great! I think they understand they're the underdog and are acting accordingly.
-the price!
-The hardware and software runs smooth
-unlockable bootloader vis Moto's website
CONS
-Inline messaging bug using the email app
-I have been having MMS problems with 3 Moto X I received, most don't send :'( (I wanna blame T-mobile but still am not sure yet)
-Camera doesn't have digital or optical stabilization so you'll need steady hands and patience!
p.s. I've gotten a free case and SOL headphones from talking with Reps, if you have a gripe a bout a deal or one day shipping or something you could manage to get a freebie
Any questions feel free to ask.
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...How often do you use the Active Listening voice control?
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I use it in the car to read me notifications, or "whats up" ... along with calling and stuff. But not much else.
I don't like SPEAKING out loud with my phone in public.
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I agree with kidjoe, I've used an M7 not M8 and after reading the glowing reviews for the M7. I was shocked how everything was average, from battery life to Ultra Pixel camera
Here are the pros vs cons for my Moto GSM Unlocked version
PROS
-Fits great in hand
-voiceless controls work wonderful even in semi noisy environments
-the contour of the phone
-Active display really is superb
-Battery life, I get 3-5 hours screen on with moderate usage, battery always last a day, and running 4.4 it's a beast in standby! 4.2.2 eeehhh..
-Moto customer service is great! I think they understand they're the underdog and are acting accordingly.
-the price!
-The hardware and software runs smooth
-unlockable bootloader vis Moto's website
CONS
-Inline messaging bug using the email app
-I have been having MMS problems with 3 Moto X I received, most don't send :'( (I wanna blame T-mobile but still am not sure yet)
-Camera doesn't have digital or optical stabilization so you'll need steady hands and patience!
p.s. I've gotten a free case and SOL headphones from talking with Reps, if you have a gripe a bout a deal or one day shipping or something you could manage to get a freebie
Any questions feel free to ask.
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Thanks! From what I've heard, the M8 actually has much better battery life than the M7, and the Moto's camera is probably about as good as the M8's. Your cons seem to be fairly minor and that's a good thing
M8 doesn't have OIS either, so that's a wash.
From some comparisons I've seen, the consensus is that the M8 is better just because it's so much newer and has better hardware. TBH that better hardware probably finally caught it up to the Moto X's stellar performance XD.
These phones are both so great it's really hard to decide :/
But the question is, is it a worthy purchase? What would you say?
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Thanks! From what I've heard, the M8 actually has much better battery life than the M7, and the Moto's camera is probably about as good as the M8's. Your cons seem to be fairly minor and that's a good thing
M8 doesn't have OIS either, so that's a wash.
From some comparisons I've seen, the consensus is that the M8 is better just because it's so much newer and has better hardware. TBH that better hardware probably finally caught it up to the Moto X's stellar performance XD.
These phones are both so great it's really hard to decide :/
But the question is, is it a worthy purchase? What would you say?
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Honestly there's another factor. an important one. The XDA factor as you would know since you're posting here on XDA.
Price and performance, battery life would always leave me with the Moto X. But as you've seen the development is very quiet around these forums sadly. So if ROMs and such are really important you may want to cancel the pre-order and see what development is like for the M8.
Again this is coming from a guy who values efficiency over everything. I knew Moto X had lower specs but being the genius I am (not really) I know specs don't matter, at least higher specs don't. When a phone boast things like that it usually means it's potentially riding on that for success rather than good software/usability or what I call efficiency.
Again, any question feel free. My moto X is an open book for you and I love helping people make the best choice for them.
Thanks! Honestly, I usually stick with stock on my phones (I only root to enable AdAway and fix SD permissions), so development isn't that big of a deal. I've noticed there's not much Dev action on the Moto X, but again: it isn't too big of a deal for me. Though, from what I've seen in the M8 forum, there is already getting to be a good amount of Dev following.
So some questions now:
How do you like the screen? Are the pixels noticeable when reading text? How is it outdoors?
I'm using the iPhone 5s as my daily driver, and the ~320PPI screen isn't too bad. Thing is, it has one of the highest quality IPS displays on the market.
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If the one and s5 don't do it for you id get a used x to last you the next 5-6 months until the new x's are announced and maybe a new nexus?
I have the $60 off coupon, so I could get an unlocked/Dev 32GB for $390. I'd go that way if I got a Moto.
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Thanks! Honestly, I usually stick with stock on my phones (I only root to enable AdAway and fix SD permissions), so development isn't that big of a deal. I've noticed there's not much Dev action on the Moto X, but again: it isn't too big of a deal for me. Though, from what I've seen in the M8 forum, there is already getting to be a good amount of Dev following.
So some questions now:
How do you like the screen? Are the pixels noticeable when reading text? How is it outdoors?
I'm using the iPhone 5s as my daily driver, and the ~320PPI screen isn't too bad. Thing is, it has one of the highest quality IPS displays on the market.
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The screen looks crisp. I rarely use full brightness outdoors. after about 70% it doesn't make too big a difference to me. And there honestly the 1080p, 720p things are gimmicky. People say they notice the difference but from the S3 to the Moto X to the M7 I've used the sharpness are all on par with each other. Including the IPS on iPhone 5/5S which my girlfriend has. they are all crisp screens.
video look great! The headphone volume is a little low though, i solved that with Viper4android (highly recommend for music lovers). Call quality is actually really really clear! It has 3 mics on it.
That answer your question?
Yep perfectly! But I think I've decided to go with the M8 for these next few months. For a couple of reasons:
1. When I used the Moto X at Verizon, the small screen really reminded me of my iPhone. 5in isn't much bigger than 4.7, but especially with the on screen buttons on a black bar (not always on, but I still noticed), it felt somewhat small to me.
2. My last Android phone was the S4 GPE, and I'm a little tired of the stock-like interface, and being quite reluctant to use ROMs I'd like to give Sense 6 a good try for a while. Moto 360 and X 2 are almost guaranteed to be on my list this year though
Thanks so much for your help!
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SolarTrans said:
Yep perfectly! But I think I've decided to go with the M8 for these next few months. For a couple of reasons:
1. When I used the Moto X at Verizon, the small screen really reminded me of my iPhone. 5in isn't much bigger than 4.7, but especially with the on screen buttons on a black bar (not always on, but I still noticed), it felt somewhat small to me.
2. My last Android phone was the S4 GPE, and I'm a little tired of the stock-like interface, and being quite reluctant to use ROMs I'd like to give Sense 6 a good try for a while. Moto 360 and X 2 are almost guaranteed to be on my list this year though
Thanks so much for your help!
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You got it! glad you found something you like.
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I've been going back and forth between the Moto X and HTC M8 for a while, and I'm really not sure which one to buy and play around with. I have a $60 off .edu coupon for the X so that would bring it to $390 as compared to $650 for the HTC M8. I've got a pre order for the M8 right now, and I can cancel until Wednesday this week. I'm not sure about the fact that the Moto X is getting kinda old, but the Active Listening is soooo cool. I've used both and I really couldn't pick a favorite.
So the question is:
Is the Moto X still a worthy purchase being a little over halfway through it's life cycle?
Thanks!
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Ok. So I dropped my dev moto x on concrete and the screen broke, my fault. So I decided I was going to upgrade to an HTC m8 with the Dot Case.
Well. I just sent in my Moto x to be repaired, because I am going to return the m8.
1. The M8 is a GREAT phone. Great camera, speed, memory expansion.
But in the end I love my Moto X (this is only my opinion)
Why I want my Moto X back? Active notifications, Touchless Control, Ability to mute from the power button, ability to root and remove all bloat (I am sure the HTC will be able to do this soon), size (I like a phone I can hold easily) and doesn't feel like a weight in my pocket.
The problems I had with the M8 (this is my opinion )
Rather have Google Experience than BlinkFeed (Yes I installed the APK), The quick gestures were useless to me. The car mode defaulted to the HTC music app, I use Google Music. Hard to hold comfortably. TV was good, but I already have 300 remotes, and 1 universal. Adding one more was just a pain. Sense 6 is nice, but I rather have a pure experience that I can add too, IE: Gravity Module
I always say in my opinion because I think phones are as unique as people. What I find in the M8/Moto X as useless/useful could be 100% different for someone else.
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Ok. So I dropped my dev moto x on concrete and the screen broke, my fault. So I decided I was going to upgrade to an HTC m8 with the Dot Case.
Well. I just sent in my Moto x to be repaired, because I am going to return the m8.
1. The M8 is a GREAT phone. Great camera, speed, memory expansion.
But in the end I love my Moto X (this is only my opinion)
Why I want my Moto X back? Active notifications, Touchless Control, Ability to mute from the power button, ability to root and remove all bloat (I am sure the HTC will be able to do this soon), size (I like a phone I can hold easily) and doesn't feel like a weight in my pocket.
The problems I had with the M8 (this is my opinion )
Rather have Google Experience than BlinkFeed (Yes I installed the APK), The quick gestures were useless to me. The car mode defaulted to the HTC music app, I use Google Music. Hard to hold comfortably. TV was good, but I already have 300 remotes, and 1 universal. Adding one more was just a pain. Sense 6 is nice, but I rather have a pure experience that I can add too, IE: Gravity Module
I always say in my opinion because I think phones are as unique as people. What I find in the M8/Moto X as useless/useful could be 100% different for someone else.
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I feel like if you play with the moto x in the store your not getting the full day to day usage and the features that help make it the #1 android phone of 2013. I know spec on sheet is all that people care about now but until you have owned the phone and then go to something else you'll want to come back to this phone.
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I have a Samsung Galaxy S 4 (T-Mobile running GPE ROM) and a moto X GSM dev editon. After going back and forth a few times in the past week I keep going back to the X. Which is surprising because I used the S4 as my DD for the better part of a year and loved everything but the size.
I actually found that the performance is similar and the screen on the X looks better because its RGB and not pentile, regardless of the resolution difference.
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I have a Samsung Galaxy S 4 (T-Mobile running GPE ROM) and a moto X GSM dev editon. After going back and forth a few times in the past week I keep going back to the X. Which is surprising because I used the S4 as my DD for the better part of a year and loved everything but the size.
I actually found that the performance is similar and the screen on the X looks better because its RGB and not pentile, regardless of the resolution difference.
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Huh didn't know it was RGB. The S5 (while having the best smartphone display ever made according to DisplayMate) still uses PenTile and has 305PPI for red and blue (but 432 for white and green). This is actually less than the Moto X's density, so I was kind of surprised. Displays can't really compare though, as from what I've read the Moto X just isn't as nice as other flagships in the display department
Update on the thread: I actually cancelled my M8 order because after using one again I found I really disliked the whole UI.
Any further comparison for will be with the S5, as that's where I moved my pre-order after canceling.
If one thing were to sway me towards the X from the S5, it'd be the size. The Moto X feels truly amazing (even for the few minutes in store that I tested it). The S5 is quite nice as well, but it doesn't quite match the curve of the X.
From all I've read and felt so far, the S5 and Moto X are both insanely attractive offerings. I haven't seen a single person dissatisfied with their X, and everyone (me included) who's used an S5 thought it was great.
Considering how attached to the X people are, I may just have to spend the $390 and go for it. The S5 may have better specs and be faster, but the overwhelming praise of the X is definitely something I'll consider.
Thanks all for the help so far! If anyone has any further input it'd be much appreciated.
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After a very disappointing event (Nexus wise) Google showcased today, I'm leaning toward the X 2014 Pure Edition. I've already made mine on Moto Maker and just waiting to pull the trigger.
I've had every nexus since the N1 but skipped out on the N6 due to its size. Now this year looks like I'm going to skip out again; the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5, the 6p (given has slightly better specs) is still too big for me. Mind you, I'm 6'6" with large hands, however I dont like big phones.. I dont like the fact I have to use finger-gymnastics to navigate the screen.
Anyways, given the stouter (sp?, word? lol) body of the X and its 5.2 display, it feels amazing. Quite perfect, actually... Reminds me of the G3; shorter body but housed a 5.5.. Amazing. And I really like the design of the moto x/n6 as well. minimal bezel, attractive, etc.
Given now this phone is a year old, would you still buy it today? I just want a 'new' device (the n5 has been great, treated me very nicely still runs perfect running 6.0 now), and I've always wanted to make my own moto x (always been a moto fan) but given what i do to phones and how i use them, the nexus always took my money. Since moto is pure Android out of the box, I think I can manage going away from a nexus this year.
Since the Moto Pure (2015) is too big, I've decided to maybe jump to the 2014 until next years moto or nexus..
Thoughts?
I agree that the new Pure edition (2015) is a bit too large. Though thinner than the Nexus 6 it is just about as tall. I own a 2014 model (AT&T) and find it to be near perfect for me size wise. As an average sized person with smaller hands it is a great fit. The 2013 model, which I also own was a bit too small in my opinion.
I consider myself a tech enthusiast. Always on the lookout for the latest, greatest thing I'll usually end up purchasing it at some point. Over time, perhaps it comes with age, I've found that those things which initially grab my attention (specs) matter less and less since code optimization and more RAM in the latest devices mean that even lower end phones perform very well. Bearing that in mind, Motorola phones tend to offer something that no other manufacturer does... a near stock experience with above average specs (CPU, RAM, screen and camera) and just the right amount of truly value added software to enhance the user experience. In terms of sheer power it likely won't match flagships on benchmark tests, but in day to day use and even in side by side comparisons you will be hard pressed to notice a difference in performance... for almost half the price. In my opinion this makes a Moto X a better value than a Nexus or any flagship device all day long.
So in answer to your question, yes, the Moto X 2014 is still a great buy if you can handle your buddies gloating over their expensive flagship devices while chugging down a beer at the local pub. Just don't bother with a carrier variant. Grab the Pure edition.
I also came from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X 2014. I love the Moto design language and fancied a go at Moto maker.
Not sure I quite get your argument though. You say "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5" but the Nexus 5x has more to offer than the Moto X 2014:
- larger battery
- newer processor
- better camera
- fingerprint scanner
Here in the UK at least, the Nexus 5x is also cheaper (unless you can grab some sort of discount code as I did).
The only thing the Moto X has (and the reason I did the swap) was that it has a nicer design, especially with Moto maker. In addition, I always felt like a bit of a beta tester with the Nexus - constantly waiting for the next Android version to fix something that didn't quite work.
Not trying to sound negative but just wanted to lay down my thoughts.
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I agree that the new Pure edition (2015) is a bit too large. Though thinner than the Nexus 6 it is just about as tall. I own a 2014 model (AT&T) and find it to be near perfect for me size wise. As an average sized person with smaller hands it is a great fit. The 2013 model, which I also own was a bit too small in my opinion.
I consider myself a tech enthusiast. Always on the lookout for the latest, greatest thing I'll usually end up purchasing it at some point. Over time, perhaps it comes with age, I've found that those things which initially grab my attention (specs) matter less and less since code optimization and more RAM in the latest devices mean that even lower end phones perform very well. Bearing that in mind, Motorola phones tend to offer something that no other manufacturer does... a near stock experience with above average specs (CPU, RAM, screen and camera) and just the right amount of truly value added software to enhance the user experience. In terms of sheer power it likely won't match flagships on benchmark tests, but in day to day use and even in side by side comparisons you will be hard pressed to notice a difference in performance... for almost half the price. In my opinion this makes a Moto X a better value than a Nexus or any flagship device all day long.
So in answer to your question, yes, the Moto X 2014 is still a great buy if you can handle your buddies gloating over their expensive flagship devices while chugging down a beer at the local pub. Just don't bother with a carrier variant. Grab the Pure edition.
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I completely agree on everything you said.. Well put.. You and I think a lot alike.. However, (lol) the only difference with me is that yes, I consider myself a tech enthusiast, but I dont necessarily itch for the latest and greatest. Because sometimes the latest and greatest is not always the greatest (for my uses anyway). I still consider my Nexus 5 to be at the top of the list compared to devices today... Most of that 'top of the list' title is due to pure android of course. Nothing beats that experience. Yeah, specs arent "great" and the average user who sees the Nexus' specs on paper wont give the device the light day, but it still out performs most if not all devices today and I've been perfectly content with its specs. But gah, I've been a big fan of the design Moto has instilled in their phones, and that in itself is a big attraction to me.. I sometimes wish the n5 was a tad bigger with less bezel, and honestly, the moto x 2014 fits the bill perfectly.
Hahaha that's funny you say that.. I have buddies all the time trying to get the "latest and greatest" top tier phone with the best of everything but continue getting let down when my 2 year old phone runs circles around their bloated and skinned devices. So to have my buddies chug on a beer and gloat about their high end devices, im sitting over here thinking, "thats cute".. User experience means more to me than specs to an extent... Just like you said, once time passes, those specs become less and less relevant and all you have left is user experience. I'd take a phone with lesser specs and amazing user experience than grab a device with high end everything but cant keep up with what im doing. Thats where our beloved Nexus and Moto X's come to play.
So thank you for your input! I agree on the Pure Edition 100% :good:
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I also came from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X 2014. I love the Moto design language and fancied a go at Moto maker.
Not sure I quite get your argument though. You say "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5" but the Nexus 5x has more to offer than the Moto X 2014:
- larger battery
- newer processor
- better camera
- fingerprint scanner
Here in the UK at least, the Nexus 5x is also cheaper (unless you can grab some sort of discount code as I did).
The only thing the Moto X has (and the reason I did the swap) was that it has a nicer design, especially with Moto maker. In addition, I always felt like a bit of a beta tester with the Nexus - constantly waiting for the next Android version to fix something that didn't quite work.
Not trying to sound negative but just wanted to lay down my thoughts.
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Didnt sound negative at all, sir! This is just good discussion.
You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned the design. Its such a good looking device. And to me, thats why i like it over the 5x. IMO the 5x isnt so attractive. Moto x wins on that one. The design of the phone really makes my phone buying hard. Every Nexus so far has been good looking imo except these recent ones. I'm picky lol.
Ok, I might have stated my argument incorrectly.. Lets try this, "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5 that is relevant to my uses"
- Larger battery? Sure does. However I was/am still getting 4-5 hours SOT on medium-heavy usage. So battery has never really been an issue for me.
- New processor. Yes, this is the only thing that attracts me.
- Better Camera? Sure. A lot better actually. But I was/am taking amazing photos with n5 camera now. I can link you to my instagram if need be lol (The moto X has a better camera than my n5 so ill be content). Yes, I would LOVE the 1.55 pixel, but its not the deciding factor when i look for a new phone.
Fingerprint scanner? Irrelevant for me. I couldnt care less for it. Now, put that fingerprint scanner on the power button (like the z5) then youll have my attention.
So yes, the 5x has more to offer than the moto, but the moto is an upgrade (kinda) from my n5.. The deciding factor for me is the design tbh.. I think the 5x doesnt look very good. Its as damn near the same size and everything of the z3, only the 5x being a tad taller. While the Moto houses the same screen size (5.2), is a lot shorter, has minimal bezel, and just looks and feels better.
Hope that clears some stuff up
I bought the Moto X 2014 last week and I'm more than happy with it!
It's fast enough to last me for a couple of years (I don't really game on it), and the size, for me, is great..
This is the largest I want to go!
After some tweaking (unlock bootloader, root, install Xposed) it's even better!
Remove some bloatware / unused apps, set Min/Max CPU speed, use NovaLauncher, tweak some notification things and the vlume sliders and it's near perfect!
I'd recommend it as "good" to the average user and "awesome" to the advanced user/tweaker
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I also came from a Nexus 5 to a Moto X 2014. I love the Moto design language and fancied a go at Moto maker.
Not sure I quite get your argument though. You say "the 5x doesnt have much more to offer than my current N5" but the Nexus 5x has more to offer than the Moto X 2014:
- larger battery
- newer processor
- better camera
- fingerprint scanner
Here in the UK at least, the Nexus 5x is also cheaper (unless you can grab some sort of discount code as I did).
The only thing the Moto X has (and the reason I did the swap) was that it has a nicer design, especially with Moto maker. In addition, I always felt like a bit of a beta tester with the Nexus - constantly waiting for the next Android version to fix something that didn't quite work.
Not trying to sound negative but just wanted to lay down my thoughts.
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Well, you don't get all of the Moto suite of useful apps and features with the n5x. There's much more to the X 2014 than design. I bought one two weeks ago and it's a solid choice if you're not gaming all day (battery lasts more than one day with moderate usage - reaches 4 hrs SOT easily). It's also way cheaper than the n5x...
My overall judgement on the X 2014 is in my signature
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sometimes the latest and greatest is not always the greatest
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Yep... pretty much my point.
Every phone nowadays can make calls, send texts, take pictures and get you from point A to point B. The Nexus devices do it absolutely bare-bones which is fine for guys like us but not flashy enough for others. In my opinion only Motorola seems to understand the needs of the "inbetweener." (lol if that's even a word!) The person who is seeking a device that is minimal (for the sake of performance) yet functional (doesn't skimp on features). The Moto X is that device... essentially stock android with some added Motorola software that actually enhances the user experience.
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Well, you don't get all of the Moto suite of useful apps and features with the n5x. There's much more to the X 2014 than design. I bought one two weeks ago and it's a solid choice if you're not gaming all day (battery lasts more than one day with moderate usage - reaches 4 hrs SOT easily). It's also way cheaper than the n5x...
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I have a moto x2014 as well but I barely see 2:30 hrs of SOT ....I'm running stock 5.1
I would have answered yes until today's Motorola announcement that carrier versions of the Moto X 2014 will not be upgraded to Android 6.0
That's the carriers fault though isn't it?
Probably be able to get CM I'm sure.
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I bought the Moto X 2014 last week and I'm more than happy with it!
It's fast enough to last me for a couple of years (I don't really game on it), and the size, for me, is great..
This is the largest I want to go!
After some tweaking (unlock bootloader, root, install Xposed) it's even better!
Remove some bloatware / unused apps, set Min/Max CPU speed, use NovaLauncher, tweak some notification things and the vlume sliders and it's near perfect!
I'd recommend it as "good" to the average user and "awesome" to the advanced user/tweaker
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I can definitely see why you say that.. I concur
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Well, you don't get all of the Moto suite of useful apps and features with the n5x. There's much more to the X 2014 than design. I bought one two weeks ago and it's a solid choice if you're not gaming all day (battery lasts more than one day with moderate usage - reaches 4 hrs SOT easily). It's also way cheaper than the n5x...
My overall judgement on the X 2014 is in my signature
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that signature is hilarious -- i dont game, so i have no worries on that
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Yep... pretty much my point.
Every phone nowadays can make calls, send texts, take pictures and get you from point A to point B. The Nexus devices do it absolutely bare-bones which is fine for guys like us but not flashy enough for others. In my opinion only Motorola seems to understand the needs of the "inbetweener." (lol if that's even a word!) The person who is seeking a device that is minimal (for the sake of performance) yet functional (doesn't skimp on features). The Moto X is that device... essentially stock android with some added Motorola software that actually enhances the user experience.
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I can see why you say that.. makes sense.. and come to think of it, youre right.. Even though our beloved nexus devices are the creme of the crop (to some people), its lacks certain things that i think would be nice to have.. small things nonetheless. slightly better camera, etc.. But i know that our nexus devices arent made to be top tier, so its understandable and i accept it.
but going off what you say, "Moto seems to understand the needs of the inbetweener". I concur. They make a device thats pure android, add better than average features (but not over the top that drives up the price), and still make it reasonably priced. i like that, and this thread is making my decision to pull the trigger even stronger.. Monday cant come here fast enough.
I'm looking to make the move from the Moto X Pure to the Z3 Play. So I'm just trying to get some insight from current users as to why you selected this phone over, say for example, the V30 or Pixel 2? Look forward to anyone's thoughts.
Mainly the 18:9 screen ratio and the fact that I can make monthly payments through Amazon
Had an OG Moto z-play with a handful of mods and wanted to keep using them. Plus, i loved my z-play, probably the longest lasting and most reliable phone I've had, but i broke the camera dropping it on concrete.
I also have a Moto z play with some mods. I like that the z3 play display and fingerprint sensor has been modernized and longed for the superb battery life of the Moto z line with mods. So here I am. I'm going back and forth with my other phone, the Sony xz2.
Had a Z, wife has a Z2 play, and even had a Moto x. Daughter has G4 play too. So kinda a Moto family now. Plus have a battery mod, the Hasselblad camera and the projector, so Z3 play made sense.
Enjoying it too! I think my Z battery got fried, it was only getting about an hour and a half screen time without the battery mod. My Z3 play is at 84 percent after an hour and a half, no mod. Lol
I'm going to be coming to the Z3 play from an Xperia X Performance... to be honest, I should have gotten on the Moto Mods train with the Z2 generation, but the Z3 offers enough to have enticed me away from the physical camera button on the Xperia XZ2 compact. I considered at least four other phones (Nokia 6.1, Samsung A8 2018, and Moto X4 among the serious contenders) and honestly the self-contained battery expansions were almost exclusively the reason this phone won out over everything but the micro-flagship. I have a feeling it'll be too big for my hands, but I'm hoping gesture navigation will help. It shipping with 8.1 will be nice, but I'll probably miss the really fast access to security patches, as Sony's been doing a good job on that. Arrival date tomorrow... I'm sure I'll be thrilled to death for a while regardless.
I had a Galaxy Note 3 that died so I needed a new phone. I didn't want to get into a large monthly payment and to buy a decent phone outright was too expensive. I'm a Virgin cellular customer and I had a $40/month plan (I brought my Note with me when I went to virgin), that gave me 2gb of data and cross Canada calling plus texting to Canada and the U.S. This is all I need in a plan so I was very happy when I got it and I didn't want to get a big increase in my monthly bill.
I went to Virgin to see what they had in phones and I saw the Z3 Play. The salesman said if I paid $99 up front, my monthly payment would be $50. I jumped at the offer. Since I was paying $40/month when I had the Note 3 and now I am paying $50/month, I am paying $10 extra per month for 24 months, that's $240. Plus the $99 I paid upfront, that makes the phone $339. They are asking $799 for the phone, so I got a great deal. Plus he gave me a clear case and a bottle of screen cleaner for $40 and he took $50 off the $799 the phone cost, so it's a free case.
Ian
I'm looking to replace my Note5, which I still love, but for which there doesn't seem to be a budget successor ($400 range) that has wireless charging. With the Moto Mods, I can add that to this phone, which I like. I'm concerned about Moto's southward-turning customer service though. We had to send back a G5, and my in-laws got an update on both their Motos that broke GPS (still not fixed). Still, this seems like the possible only contender. We'll see. Still evaluating my choices and I'm not in an emergency to switch because T-Mo hasn't really activated band 71 in my area. My battery life is terrible though.
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I'm looking to replace my Note5, which I still love, but for which there doesn't seem to be a budget successor ($400 range) that has wireless charging. With the Moto Mods, I can add that to this phone, which I like. I'm concerned about Moto's southward-turning customer service though. We had to send back a G5, and my in-laws got an update on both their Motos that broke GPS (still not fixed). Still, this seems like the possible only contender. We'll see. Still evaluating my choices and I'm not in an emergency to switch because T-Mo hasn't really activated band 71 in my area. My battery life is terrible though.
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If it's battery life you're looking for then you get 2 days easy with the battery mod. Solid phone so far.
Just received this phone it seemed good being a 8.1. and Amazon takes payments. Every thing is working great.
I'd not want to root this phone! It's perfect. Motorola mod z3 is the sturdiest cell phone I've had in terms of physical aspects of the Smartphones I've seen and owned in one. I've "handled" the others and their too lazy to brake open and get to the internal design to flash. Motorola is the only cell phone I'll buy from the Droid to this one.
Under Corfish custom Roms...you will have to do "dit" typo and "clean up this mess" yourself in the lazy Droid turbo functionality of the x3 crash. I'm not kidding OMG! Hahahaha!
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The modular functions and the almost vanilla os you can get in a locked phone.
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The modular functions and the almost vanilla os you can get in a locked phone.
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Lol have a great day
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I just noticed that one of the phones on my Verizon account is a z2 PLAY, yay!
I get to play!
Battery life with the Battery Mod that comes with it!
Are you planning to buy Moto Z3 ..?
Moto Z3 face off as the snap-on modem is your gateway to the 5G network!!!
If sources are to believed, then the Moto Z3 will be the first 5G upgradeable smartphone!
1. Battery life and Moto Mod ecosystem
2. $150 off retail ($100 Moto discount now expired but probably will return soon, $50 Best Buy/Cricket Wireless promotion still valid)
3. Came from a Moto Nexus 6 which I really liked but was showing its age. Also had a Moto Atrix 4g years ago which was great until it got stolen.
Been using Motorola from the beginning of time...
StarTac 130
V300
E398
RAZR V3
SLVR L7
Then Stop for a while (using other brands SONY Erricson & LG..)
Moto Defy
Nexus 6
Moto Z Play (The modular posibilities connection and the sturdiest design and form factor suit me)
And Now... continue with Moto Z3 Play (Can still use all my old moto mods accessories)
Well it definitely wasn't Moto's track record of updates but after owning 3 Nokia Android One phones and having plenty of bugs and over all poor performance I decided to give Moto another try. I had the Nokia 3.1, 6.1, and lastly the 7.1 and for whatever the reason the Moto z3 play preforms much better than the 7.1 with basically the same internals. I picked up the z3 play at Best Buy for 399 with the free battery mod and I'm extremely happy with my purchase. The display is beautiful (just as good as the 7.1) the camera is just as good as the 7.1 as well and the camera app is much better on the Moto in my opinion. Although the 7.1 was hdr compliant, hdr through all major streaming services weren't supported yet and no real answer of when they would add the device so kind of a useless feature and the upscaling felt gimmicky. Don't get me wrong I am really pulling for Nokia just for the sake of it being Nokia but the Android One program feels more like generic system images just pushed to devices and not really optimized for the device. And I am really liking the Moto mods, makes the phone fun and more than just a phone.