hey guys, im new to this forum,,
anyways,
i know that unlocking bootloader will take away xperia z's bravia engine,
but if i relock the bootloader again, will i be able to get it back?
opinions pls :<
P.S. : does losing bravia engine is a really big deal to you?
For now there is no way to get BE2 back after unlocking.
Maybe in the future, no one can tell.
Kind regards, Stefan.
Thaevil0ne said:
For now there is no way to get BE2 back after unlocking.
Maybe in the future, no one can tell.
Kind regards, Stefan.
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thanks for teh answer thaevil0ne, btw, do you think losing bravia engine is a really big deal?
For me, not at all.
I unlocked the bootloader even before checking out the BE, as I want custom kernels.
As far as I understand it will only work when you view pictures or movies with the Sony Album app.
If you browse the web or play games the engine will not be active at all.
Kind regards, Stefan.
Hey folks,
we often heard now that BE2 can't be brought back after unlocking bootloader.
My question is simple...WHY?? Maybe some dev can answer this question. I don't understand where's the link between unlocking and the BE2 engine. And why does this only affect pictures? That makes no sense...
In addition to that, there are a lot of ROMs for other sony devices which bring BE2 to them. Why shouldn't it be possible to bring it back then?
I understand that thing with loosing DRM support because of security issues...but an graphics engine....?
Greetz
Cube
Thaevil0ne said:
For me, not at all.
I unlocked the bootloader even before checking out the BE, as I want custom kernels.
As far as I understand it will only work when you view pictures or movies with the Sony Album app.
If you browse the web or play games the engine will not be active at all.
Kind regards, Stefan.
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reading your comment made me feel better, i thought xperia phones will be suck if theres no bravia,
DooMLoRD ported BE1 to Xperia Play back in the day, see this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246402
So Iam pretty sure it must be possible to port BE2 aswell, maybe DooMLoRD could explain us a bit more?
Kind regards, Stefan.
TheAngryCube said:
Hey folks,
we often heard now that BE2 can't be brought back after unlocking bootloader.
My question is simple...WHY?? Maybe some dev can answer this question. I don't understand where's the link between unlocking and the BE2 engine. And why does this only affect pictures? That makes no sense...
In addition to that, there are a lot of ROMs for other sony devices which bring BE2 to them. Why shouldn't it be possible to bring it back then?
I understand that thing with loosing DRM support because of security issues...but an graphics engine....?
Greetz
Cube
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very true bro, maybe sony wants us to regret on our decision on unlocking it,thats why
nokbepogi16 said:
very true bro, maybe sony wants us to regret on our decision on unlocking it,thats why
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Maybe, but from my point of view, it's a feature supported by Sony. Why then punish users/devs who work on that nice piece of hardware to make it even better...
Thaevil0ne said:
DooMLoRD ported BE1 to Xperia Play back in the day, see this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246402
So Iam pretty sure it must be possible to port BE2 aswell, maybe DooMLoRD could explain us a bit more?
Kind regards, Stefan.
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thanks for the positive thoughts bro,, please let me know if doomlords comes up with this port thank you very much
When you unlock the bootloader you lose things called DRM keys, these can never be restored after unlocking. These keys are used to make specific functions or features work. After you unlock as these keys are no longer there so some functions won't work. Sadly bravia engine is one of these things that stops working.
Bravia Engine 2 back
fareeed said:
When you unlock the bootloader you lose things called DRM keys, these can never be restored after unlocking. These keys are used to make specific functions or features work. After you unlock as these keys are no longer there so some functions won't work. Sadly bravia engine is one of these things that stops working.
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Has anyone tried this method: http://xperianeoldev.blogspot.be/2013/05/tutorial-install-bravia-engine-2-on.html ?
I asked the author of this tutorial if it would be possible to make similar deal with XZ and it is what he answered:
"Yes , use the tutorial given in the website it is working on all xperia smartphones"
Still hope to get BE2 back!
For all people here you will brick your phones. Unlocking your bootloader you do not loose bravia engine it was told 100x times read forum
bravia will be loss in album but video still work.
That's still half not working
Bootloader unlocked but I still have the option to turn BE2 on or off. I can't decide is there any difference when it's on then off...
Bravia Engine 2
defsix said:
Bootloader unlocked but I still have the option to turn BE2 on or off. I can't decide is there any difference when it's on then off...
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It surly does not work with the pictures.
Bth I had a few smartphones as far: iPhone (jailbreaked), HTC HD, S Galaxy Nexus, Galaxt Tab 7, and have never had problems like this that I irreversibly lost such important features after unlockimg the bootloader. Of course it is only me to blame as I should have done more research before but bearing in mind my earlier experience and the fact the instructions were taken fron offical Sony site I just felt too self confident.
Anyway I think next time I will not choose Sony smartphone as I am bit dissapointed with the situation esp. when you see BE ported on devices from HTC, Samsung or others.
sikoro said:
It surly does not work with the pictures.
Bth I had a few smartphones as far: iPhone (jailbreaked), HTC HD, S Galaxy Nexus, Galaxt Tab 7, and have never had problems like this that I irreversibly lost such important features after unlockimg the bootloader. Of course it is only me to blame as I should have done more research before but bearing in mind my earlier experience and the fact the instructions were taken fron offical Sony site I just felt too self confident.
Anyway I think next time I will not choose Sony smartphone as I am bit dissapointed with the situation esp. when you see BE ported on devices from HTC, Samsung or others.
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Do you still have the option for BE2? I also thought we lost the ability to get track info and movie info from Gracenote, that's still working fine for me. I don't do DRM so it's no loss to me.
I've not used other devices much, I vaguely remember with Samsung you're sideloading the firmware as opposed to Sony where you're unlocking to freely change the firmware... Correct me if I'm wrong.
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defsix said:
Do you still have the option for BE2? I also thought we lost the ability to get track info and movie info from Gracenote, that's still working fine for me. I don't do DRM so it's no loss to me.
I've not used other devices much, I vaguely remember with Samsung you're sideloading the firmware as opposed to Sony where you're unlocking to freely change the firmware... Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Yes I do. The button BE2 is still visible in my settings but there is no difference if I turn it on or off. For getting track info it is similar - I can start this option, wait until is finished. Then start it again and exactly the same number tracks is updated. You can repeat the process all over but in fact nothing is changed.
I don't know what you exactly mean "sideloading" but when I had Galaxy Nexus I could freely change the firmware, could have f.eg. JB with Touch Wizz from S3. Of course had no BE2 at all but the screen was more vivid so the pictures looked better (my opinion) than on XZ without BE.
Anyway there are mods which allow to install BE2 on devices from HTC, Samsung, Motorolla or other unlocked Sony models and that makes me even more disappointed.
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Yes I do. The button BE2 is still visible in my settings but there is no difference if I turn it on or off. For getting track info it is similar - I can start this option, wait until is finished. Then start it again and exactly the same number tracks is updated. You can repeat the process all over but in fact nothing is changed.
I don't know what you exactly mean "sideloading" but when I had Galaxy Nexus I could freely change the firmware, could have f.eg. JB with Touch Wizz from S3. Of course had no BE2 at all but the screen was more vivid so the pictures looked better (my opinion) than on XZ without BE.
Anyway there are mods which allow to install BE2 on devices from HTC, Samsung, Motorolla or other unlocked Sony models and that makes me even more disappointed.
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I still have the ability to use the Gracenote services, I updated all my music and it replaced the cover art, I also did the same with my movie & tv show collection.
On Samsung i believe the system is less secured when it comes to installing other firmwares hence the ease with which it's done. Firmwares can be installed without unlocking unlike Sony. (this is not my direct experience with Samsung only what I've heard)
As for BE2 it can installed on other devices and according to a post i read last night it's theoretically can be done, but not yet tried.
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So uum my X8 was recently dropped on the ground by accident and when i picked it up there were no scratches or anything thanks to my silicone mask. But when i try to turn it on it just vibrates and turns the backlight on and nothing else and shuts it self down. Nothing else.
The screen isn't cracked , everything seems to be OK inside when i opened it. but still just the vibration and back light nothing else. Help if you know what is wrong with it.
I'm not an expert, but maybe the reason is not the drop; have you unlocked bootloader or installed custom roms ?
Hyper- said:
I'm not an expert, but maybe the reason is not the drop; have you unlocked bootloader or installed custom roms ?
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Yes
Ok, you can try to flash the original kernel and the original rom. It worked for me when i have had the same experience
Does not work...
Spevky said:
Does not work...
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BUMP
are you using any a2sd or d2sd on your sdcard?
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yea that doesent matter
Well seems to be that my Display + Digitizer is down. But the backlight works. My X8 lasted 2 years.
lol mine is 3 years already
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I have searched and asked this many times. But no one seems to have a answer for me. So let's see if someone on the Q & A thread will...
I have a Z1 that can be boot loader unlocked. However I don't know whether its worth it.
The biggest thing to put me off was loss of x reality but there is a solution now.
The biggest thing that is putting me off is camera performance. I heard it removes Sony software for the camera called BIONZ. I want to know if anyone can tell the difference in camera quality with their unlocked boot loader as opposed to a locked boot loader.
So any answers appreciated!
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Well there is a thread somewhere around here called another Sony secret and they are talking about the difference between pictures with an unlocked bl and pictures with a locked bl...the op said that there is a lot more noise in the pictures with an unlocked bl...look for that thread and you will find more info
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Well I have mentioned this earlier.
This has had no negative effect on mine. I saw a camera improvement overall in .290, but other than that I have not been very satisfied with 4.3.
.257 had way less issues (talking about firmware as a whole here). Fingers crossed for kitkat:fingers-crossed:
So what I'm saying is, weird that I can percieve better results going from locked .257 - to unlocked .290.
I've read around that mentioned thread, and to me there was heavy speculation going on in there.
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Well there is a thread somewhere around here called another Sony secret and they are talking about the difference between pictures with an unlocked bl and pictures with a locked bl...the op said that there is a lot more noise in the pictures with an unlocked bl...look for that thread and you will find more info
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That thread was rated 1 star last time I checked so was not sure if it was true, plus, they were on bout low light mostly. I want to know about good light
I think I might just go ahead and do it Just hope I don't regret it as I take pictures a lot.
technostein said:
That thread was rated 1 star last time I checked so was not sure if it was true, plus, they were on bout low light mostly. I want to know about good light
I think I might just go ahead and do it Just hope I don't regret it as I take pictures a lot.
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I'm sure in good light you won't notice the difference so just go for it... Don't forget to backup all the important stuff like TA etc...
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@technostein
Unlock bootloader and try, if you don't like it just restore your TA and you are back again...
Just be sure you are on 4.3 because of camera...
I was always unlocking bootloader but I bought Z1 (in purpose) with bootloader status - NO.
I'm completely satisfied with Sony ROMs ( back from 4.1.2) and can't find any reason to use custom kernel...
Just don't need that...
OC? Really don't need more cpu or gpu speed.
All other features are already in stock kernel...
Maybe, only, if Sony decide not to add KNOCKON feature- I would miss custom kernel - but who cares for just one thing...
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funky0308 said:
@technostein
Unlock bootloader and try, if you don't like it just restore your TA and you are back again...
Just be sure you are on 4.3 because of camera...
I was always unlocking bootloader but I bought Z1 (in purpose) with bootloader status - NO.
I'm completely satisfied with Sony ROMs ( back from 4.1.2) and can't find any reason to use custom kernel...
Just don't need that...
OC? Really don't need more cpu or gpu speed.
All other features are already in stock kernel...
Maybe, only, if Sony decide not to add KNOCKON feature- I would miss custom kernel - but who cares for just one thing...
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Reason why I am tempted it because I run ihackers ROM 3.0 and I liked the changelogs of ihackers kernel. such as noise reduction in camera and loads of tweaks and build prop tweaks.
Be aware that by unlocking formally sony's guarantee will be lost, as that is stated in their terms. I don't know if relocking will fix the guarantee issue of there is a need later on.
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I saw somewhere on XDA a thread about differences quality pictures between Locked and Unlocked Bootloader and the pictures on Unlocked Bootloader had much more less quality and more noise than the one with the Locked Bootloader. I can't guarantee the accuracy of that information but if it is true then Unlocking Bootlader is very bad for the quality pictures. I am sure it can be fixed because of software related but how and when I don't know. I still keep my Bootloader Locked even if I am tempt to unlock it to install CM11.
Hey Everyone
i know that aloot of people posted about this problem but i havent found a solution yet so i'm looking for help
so when i installed android 4.4.4 on my xperia z c6603 i noticed that the colors are kinda washed out and even the white balance in the settings didnt help so i started looking for a fix but i found nothing except for some people that were using a screen dimmer to solve this problem but it drains the battery for some reason so i started looking for a stock rom that could help with this problem and i found a stock rock (4.1.2) but the problem is that i hate this rom so please anyone tell me if someone has this problem aswell and if you know how to fix then please show me and sorry for my english
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Hey Everyone
i know that aloot of people posted about this problem but i havent found a solution yet so i'm looking for help
so when i installed android 4.4.4 on my xperia z c6603 i noticed that the colors are kinda washed out and even the white balance in the settings didnt help so i started looking for a fix but i found nothing except for some people that were using a screen dimmer to solve this problem but it drains the battery for some reason so i started looking for a stock rom that could help with this problem and i found a stock rock (4.1.2) but the problem is that i hate this rom so please anyone tell me if someone has this problem aswell and if you know how to fix then please show me and sorry for my english
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Colour adjustments can be done after flashing a custom kernel. Use an app to adjust RGB and gamma values after that.
@Tommy-Geenexus Zombie kernel for example, which is pre-tuned gamma (and it is good )
Yeah you'll have to unlock boatloader and use a custom kernel like Zombie to get a solid result.
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Hello, could anybody provide a link to video or screens which compare colors/contrast of this kernel with stock one? Thanks.
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Screens wont work because they will be identical. Recording a video or taking a photo is, but do you really expect us to go to the trouble of.getting a second camera or phone and do this just for you? Maybe someone will but I wouldn't expect it.
If it troubles you that much, you can unlock boatloader and try it yourself.
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Of course I dont make anybody even to do it nor especially for me.
I just thought somebody who read about it could also share some existing comparasion if there it is.
whats yout illumination setting and how have you set white balance
CosmicDan said:
Yeah you'll have to unlock boatloader and use a custom kernel like Zombie to get a solid result.
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Thank you and Thank everyone oh and i have a unlocked boatloder but can i get a link to the kernel ? oh and just a noobie Q umm i have android 4.4.4 would that kernel work for me ?
Hey Guys,
I want to know if rooting note 5 will impact its camera performance like it happens with sony z series phones.
need help please
No, camera is not affected by root
devilstutor said:
Hey Guys,
I want to know if rooting note 5 will impact its camera performance like it happens with sony z series phones.
need help please
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Wrong section posted.
Anyway, no it doesnt.
Check my attached image.
khoojunxiang said:
Wrong section posted.
Anyway, no it doesnt.
Check my attached image.
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How did you get that beautiful picture at night? Pro mode? Can you give me details, Samsung removed the low light mode
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