Method to root Moto X Android 4.4.4 Verizon.?
1. Did you bother searching? You might not be the first person to ask.
2. Buy a developer edition and sell your phone or take a chance with the middleman in China to unlock your bootloader.
Christian Correia said:
Method to root Moto X Android 4.4.4 Verizon.?
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Boot into recovery and flash one of the su zips that corresponds to the root app of your choice. If you don't have an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery, then you can't root.
nhizzat said:
1. Did you bother searching? You might not be the first person to ask.
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What is this "search" you speak of, and what does it do?
imnuts said:
What is this "search" you speak of, and what does it do?
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LOL!!! ^
That "thing" is just an Urban Legend. We all know it doesn't -really- exist.
(Or at least you would *think* so, based on more than half the new threads that appear here) :silly:
imnuts said:
What is this "search" you speak of, and what does it do?
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It's like Google, only contained within the forum.
But why search when you can just scroll down a couple lines to find your answer? Better yet, why scroll down when you can just click the "post new thread" button?
nhizzat said:
It's like Google, only contained within the forum.
But why search when you can just scroll down a couple lines to find your answer? Better yet, why scroll down when you can just click the "post new thread" button?
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How did u get 4.4.4 on vzw? i force check updates on my 4.4.2 moto x on vzw and says up to date
doitinthedirt said:
How did u get 4.4.4 on vzw? i force check updates on my 4.4.2 moto x on vzw and says up to date
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I don't think Verizon is pushing it to every one yet, so if you are not part of the Soak, that is why your phone says its up to date.
You can grab the OTA zip being sent as SOAK and manually flash it. (see HERE and HERE) BUT know that if you have a locked bootlaoder, you can't root it.
nhizzat said:
1. Did you bother searching? You might not be the first person to ask.
2. Buy a developer edition and sell your phone or take a chance with the middleman in China to unlock your bootloader.
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The China middleman works for the time I used it, but it's so much easier and convenient to just buy a developer edition now that they've gone on sale.
doitinthedirt said:
How did u get 4.4.4 on vzw? i force check updates on my 4.4.2 moto x on vzw and says up to date
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I downloaded it from one of the threads here and installed it. Was a pretty easy process...
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There is a sticky that has all the info and links needed on this subject. No, Another informational thread is not necessary and only adds clutter to the forum... And often more misinformation. ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2826159
Just reading the stickies on XDA can solve allot of time and headaches.
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hi,
I can't post in the developer sections, so a question here:
Has anyone rooted their UK moto X yet? Comes with 4.4.2
the motorola chat said they expect we'll be able to unlock the bootloader but I'm not holding my breath.
But rooting? Yes please!
talkingduck said:
hi,
I can't post in the developer sections, so a question here:
Has anyone rooted their UK moto X yet? Comes with 4.4.2
the motorola chat said they expect we'll be able to unlock the bootloader but I'm not holding my breath.
But rooting? Yes please!
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as of right now there is no root for 4.4.2 so you have to wait and see if someone finds a way to get root
or wait and see if you can unlock your bootloader.
talkingduck said:
hi,
I can't post in the developer sections, so a question here:
Has anyone rooted their UK moto X yet? Comes with 4.4.2
the motorola chat said they expect we'll be able to unlock the bootloader but I'm not holding my breath.
But rooting? Yes please!
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Yes. You can root your UK moto X.
janjan said:
Yes. You can root your UK moto X.
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this i want to hear he is allready on 4.4.2 and he can't unlock his bootloader yet so how is he going to root?
dray_jr said:
this i want to hear he is allready on 4.4.2 and he can't unlock his bootloader yet so how is he going to root?
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bingo!
just got unlock code
phew.. this looked like it was going to be the first phone in a loooong time I wasn't going to be able to root and it was already hurting!
talkingduck said:
bingo!
just got unlock code
phew.. this looked like it was going to be the first phone in a loooong time I wasn't going to be able to root and it was already hurting!
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well now your good to go check out my guide in the general section on how to flash twrp and get root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
dray_jr said:
well now your good to go check out my guide in the general section on how to flash twrp and get root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
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indeed, it's what I'm reading thru now! Thanks for pulling it all together!
talkingduck said:
indeed, it's what I'm reading thru now! Thanks for pulling it all together!
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np at all bro glad to help
talkingduck said:
indeed, it's what I'm reading thru now! Thanks for pulling it all together!
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Hi, I currently have a uk moto x xt1052 as well. Did the root process turn out ok?
I've read through dray_jrs guides but would like to hear your feedback
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bryan.huang said:
Hi, I currently have a uk moto x xt1052 as well. Did the root process turn out ok?
I've read through dray_jrs guides but would like to hear your feedback
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piece of cake! Just follow the instructions and you'll be fine.
then install the xposed framework, gravity box etc and you'll be flying!
@talkingduck I have a UK moto x... How did you get your unlock code please? Tried the Motorola site but says my device is invalid...
Volpine said:
@talkingduck I have a UK moto x... How did you get your unlock code please? Tried the Motorola site but says my device is invalid...
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Did you paste the numbers in one line correctly? I've heard others getting invalid responses when the numbers aren't in correctly.
Otherwise, I just followed the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
good luck!
Yeah thanks... There was a gap in the middle...doh!!
Volpine said:
Yeah thanks... There was a gap in the middle...doh!!
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Cool! enjoy
Can I safely use the OTA update to 4.4.2 when I used the SlapMyMoto method (http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/1t5ei6/guide_root_verizon_nondeveloper_moto_x_44/) to root my Moto X (so my bootloader is still locked)? If not, how can I update to 4.4.2 with root, if possible?
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Can I safely use the OTA update to 4.4.2 when I used the SlapMyMoto method (http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/1t5ei6/guide_root_verizon_nondeveloper_moto_x_44/) to root my Moto X (so my bootloader is still locked)? If not, how can I update to 4.4.2 with root, if possible?
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why wont you people search and read before for you post this is the 3-4 thread about taking the OTA in the past 10 mins.
i mean come on the first thread title is [noobs] [ guide ] to accept an ota
and second please dont use that guide
use any of the guides on this site like mine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
or the creator of slapmymoto Jcase's guide in the Original Android development section
Really time to open a troll thread.
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
I opened this thread a while ago :crying:. I did read the first thread but it I saw on xda somewhere that it wasn't safe to root if you used SlapMyMoto, and the thread didn't confirm or deny that statement. Which is why I posted this thread. I do apologize if this seemed like an obvious question to you, but I'm not that experienced in rooting/flashing/whatnot yet. So could you give me a straight answer please?
I read through multiple threads and I'm still unsure I can take the ota if I'm rooted with locked boot loader on 4.4.
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biggiestuff said:
I read through multiple threads and I'm still unsure I can take the ota if I'm rooted with locked boot loader on 4.4.
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Yeah, I won't be taking the risk. I read somewhere that you CAN update to 4.4.2 safely, but write permissions will be denied so you can't use things like Xposed. I'm just going to wait and watch the dust settle first.
biggiestuff said:
I read through multiple threads and I'm still unsure I can take the ota if I'm rooted with locked boot loader on 4.4.
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Why don't you try it yourself and let us all know how it goes, kay?
Cozume said:
Why don't you try it yourself and let us all know how it goes, kay?
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Okay just send me your phone and I'll gladly do it.
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There really ought to be discipline for blatantly posting without searching first. Sorry OP but wow....
The moto x forum is such a mess. Lol
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kj2112 said:
There really ought to be discipline for blatantly posting without searching first. Sorry OP but wow....
The moto x forum is such a mess. Lol
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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Well the forums are inundated with a bunch of posts regarding unlocked bootloader X's. I don't know why people are having issues, they just need to disable all things root, go back to stock, then take the OTA. The solution to these has been documented a million times.
Our problem has to do with a locked bootloader, and there's not much information besides "wait for it to be rooted."
I'm sitting patiently (but anxiously, hah), but it's a bit confusing for everyone because we're all just sitting on our hands hoping for 4.4.2 root.
dray_jr said:
why wont you people search and read before for you post this is the 3-4 thread about taking the OTA in the past 10 mins.
i mean come on the first thread title is [noobs] [ guide ] to accept an ota
and second please dont use that guide
use any of the guides on this site like mine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
or the creator of slapmymoto Jcase's guide in the Original Android development section
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The noobs guide you are reffering to only talks about unlocked bootloaders...
I will not answer any question in regards to slapmymoto or pawnmymoto regards to accepting the ota
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And your guide too only only shows how to do it for unlcoked bootloaders. Is it so hard to give a straight answer? He wants root on 4.4.2 without unlocking the bootloader..
densets said:
The noobs guide you are reffering to only talks about unlocked bootloaders...
And your guide too only only shows how to do it for unlcoked bootloaders. Is it so hard to give a straight answer? He wants root on 4.4.2 without unlocking the bootloader..
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OK changed my op, I have tried to make it simple as possible and it for any ota up to date, if you hacked rooted with slapmymoto or pawnmymoto do not accept the ota, as to date , there is no root hack for 4.4.2 and may never be. If your boot loader is unlockable and you used jcases root method, then unlock your boot loader. To sum it up 4.4.2 requires a unlocked boot loader to gain root access in this point in time
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
Thank you guys for clarifying what I meant, I know not to root now :good:
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The noobs guide you are reffering to only talks about unlocked bootloaders...
And your guide too only only shows how to do it for unlcoked bootloaders. Is it so hard to give a straight answer? He wants root on 4.4.2 without unlocking the bootloader..
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apparently you did not even read my guide because it tells you how to root both locked and unlocked bootloaders so next time read before you open you mouth and tell me i did not give him a straight answer
yeah because rooting 4.2.2 and 4.4.2 is the same thing right?
densets said:
yeah because rooting 4.2.2 and 4.4.2 is the same thing right?
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Yes. For unlocked bootloaders.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
kj2112 said:
Yes. For unlocked bootloaders.
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And if you had read the guy's post you would see he wasn't clear on when the thread was referencing locked bootloaders or unlocked bootloaders
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50252348&postcount=4
Sometimes people can search and read and still not get it. Because some times the people giving the answers aren't clear in their explanations for a variety of reasons or because they leave out critical facts/steps that seem so basic to them they don't feel the need to include them but yet to a noob, you are lost without those critical facts/steps. Hence the need for:
Moto X Q&A Forum
It's interesting to see how many people are so concerned with root, yet bought a device with a locked bootloader. Especially considering how readily available Motorola has made the developer editions...
MotoX Developer Edition went from German 4.4.2 to Great Britain 4.4.2 to T-Mobile 4.4.2 no problem. Fastboot FTW!
flashallthetime said:
...To sum it up 4.4.2 requires a unlocked boot loader to gain root access in this point in time
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that is the way you should have written it (so people can see it).
SymbioticGenius said:
It's interesting to see how many people are so concerned with root, yet bought a device with a locked bootloader. Especially considering how readily available Motorola has made the developer editions...!
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First, in the US very few people buy off contract phones given the carrier subsidies are built into their wireless service contracts. And the Motorola Dev Eds (as is true of all Dev Eds) are only available off contract. So if you go with a Dev Ed, you are paying for a subsidy but not using it. Of course, you can buy an iPhone with your subsidized upgrade and sell it, but many people aren't willing to do this or don't know how to do this or are afraid of using craig's list/swappa/ebay to sell a phone. I know I was nervous the first time I did it.
Now things are beginning to change in that at least 3 of the major carriers are offering discounts on your bill if you will forego subsidized phone pricing, but for my carrier, to get a discount you have to enroll in their installment program and get the phone through them, and you can't get a Dev Ed through them. The discount does not equal the subsidy unless you are on a family plan using 10GB or more per month of data. But if you are, the discount exceeds the subsidy. So your best bet is to either stick with the subsidy built into your plan or go with Verizon's installment plan, but either way you can't get a Dev Ed.
Second, you can't customize the Dev Eds and while that may not be important to some people, a lot of people really like it. I bought a second Moto X just to get the wood back, lol! Not entirely true as I am going to use it for WiFi tether in my house as soon as I root it, but that wood back for only $25 extra sure was hard to resist.
So in the US with the subsidy and customization options, being readily available isn't the whole story.
Hello everyone,
I am posting here today on the topic of the Moto X OS Updater. I have the VZW Moto X Dev Ed running Rooted Kit Kat 4.4. I do not want the new update and it is asking me everyday if I would like to install. As I am not interested in doing so I would like to remove this. Is there a way to shut down the updater or maybe even remove the apk? If so what is it called or how do I do so?
Thanks in advance!
-Did Doe
Did Doe said:
Hello everyone,
I am posting here today on the topic of the Moto X OS Updater. I have the VZW Moto X Dev Ed running Rooted Kit Kat 4.4. I do not want the new update and it is asking me everyday if I would like to install. As I am not interested in doing so I would like to remove this. Is there a way to shut down the updater or maybe even remove the apk? If so what is it called or how do I do so?
Thanks in advance!
-Did Doe
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/how-to-upgrade-to-4-4-2-t2660439
Did Doe said:
Hello everyone,
I am posting here today on the topic of the Moto X OS Updater. I have the VZW Moto X Dev Ed running Rooted Kit Kat 4.4. I do not want the new update and it is asking me everyday if I would like to install. As I am not interested in doing so I would like to remove this. Is there a way to shut down the updater or maybe even remove the apk? If so what is it called or how do I do so?
Thanks in advance!
-Did Doe
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Out of curiosity, why don't you want the update?
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
Schaweet said:
Out of curiosity, why don't you want the update?
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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i am wondering the same question you are a DEV device with a unlocked bootloader so you can easily root your device again after that update. im very glad i took the update it fixed a couple issues i was having
Teksu said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/how-to-upgrade-to-4-4-2-t2660439
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Your the best! Thank you so much?
Schaweet said:
Out of curiosity, why don't you want the update?
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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Well from what I read I can't go back to the post camera update if I take 4.4.2. This is important I am able to do what I want you know.
Did Doe said:
Well from what I read I can't go back to the post camera update if I take 4.4.2. This is important I am able to do what I want you know.
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The main reason people want to get back to 4.2.2 is to root. with the DE you can root with any version because of the unlocked bootloader.
Did Doe said:
Well from what I read I can't go back to the post camera update if I take 4.4.2. This is important I am able to do what I want you know.
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You have a developer edition... You can flash damn well near anything you want.
CartlandSmith said:
yeah it is looking like some of the nervous nellies on this site have spooked a lot of us into thinking you can't.
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yeah, but a little reading and people can figure it all out. and some of the fear is good, people get a little too trigger happy sometimes before they learn the ropes of a new device.
CartlandSmith said:
nah, the misinfo keeps getting posted and reposted and the more you read, the more misinfo you read.
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well it is very known what you can and can't flash, it's stickied in the general thread. No misinfo on that one. also all the upgrading and downgrading software and bootloader info is there too. pretty much everything, I think the people who are nervous are the ones not reading threads. things are pretty clear and dry here, and many questions have been answered there too!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-how-to-root-4-4-links-guides-t2603358
hope that helps explain things cartland!
CartlandSmith said:
yeah it is looking like some of the nervous nellies on this site have spooked a lot of us into thinking you can't.
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I didn't say you can't, because you can very easily.
drago10029 said:
well it is very known what you can and can't flash, it's stickied in the general thread. No misinfo on that one. also all the upgrading and downgrading software and bootloader info is there too. pretty much everything, I think the people who are nervous are the ones not reading threads. things are pretty clear and dry here, and many questions have been answered there too!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-how-to-root-4-4-links-guides-t2603358
hope that helps explain things cartland!
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Wow, good read! Thanks for the link!
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From what others are posting using the unofficial fxz, you can run the 4.4 system with the 4.4.2 bootloader and I would presume the 4.2.2 system, too although I don't see where anyone has specifically tried that. However, if you do run a lower version of the system than the bootloader and accidentally take the 4.4.2 OTA again, you will brick. So you would need to freeze the OTA app to avoid that.
Running 4.4. system with 4.4.2 bootloader
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Any information you have about the dev end I would love to check out.
Thanks!
Did Doe said:
Wow, good read! Thanks for the link!
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You're welcome! Good rule of thumb is always read stickies before posting anything.
any word on when someone will be aquiring exploit to unlock ATT moto x bootloader
dgross1123 said:
any word on when someone will be aquiring exploit to unlock ATT moto x bootloader
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An exploit is highly unlikely. The Moto X bootloader is extremely secure. You may be able to get unlocked through the china middleman - see that thread for details.
Just bought one myself..great phone would love to root it.
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reedcasechris420 said:
Just bought one myself..great phone would love to root it.
Sent from my XT1058 using Tapatalk
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You can root it now - see the PIE thread. Unfortunately, this is a partial root - no write access to /system and no custom recovery. Root is lost upon reboot and must perform procedure again. Still useful for things like Xposed and WiFi Tether....
The better option is to try to unlock the bootloader. Since you are using at XT1058 (I'm guessing AT&T branded?) your only option is the china middleman.
Good Luck
samwathegreat said:
You can root it now - see the PIE thread. Unfortunately, this is a partial root - no write access to /system and no custom recovery. Root is lost upon reboot and must perform procedure again. Still useful for things like Xposed and WiFi Tether....
The better option is to try to unlock the bootloader. Since you are using at XT1058 (I'm guessing AT&T branded?) your only option is the china middleman.
Good Luck
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my brother just did it.. nothing fancy doesn't give you write permissions or anything...i midswell do it right and go all out with the code. I did contact the person for the codes and he is still doing them and has one for my 06 built phone. I'll will be getting it this day and report back.
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samwathegreat said:
An exploit is highly unlikely. The Moto X bootloader is extremely secure. You may be able to get unlocked through the china middleman - see that thread for details.
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Does anyone know where this guy is getting the codes from? Surely he has a program or something that generates them based on the imei
joshua.justice said:
Does anyone know where this guy is getting the codes from? Surely he has a program or something that generates them based on the imei
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53423452
joshua.justice said:
Does anyone know where this guy is getting the codes from? Surely he has a program or something that generates them based on the imei
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No. He got his hands on moto's database.
KJ said:
No. He got his hands on moto's database.
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He has weird access to it ..some days he can do them other days he can't. I wish we had someone in the states with access to it.
QUESTION ANSWERED
I'm unable to install apps from the play store. Tapping install just freezes the play store. I can barely even browse the play store or do anything. Factory reset isn't helping and so far all I've done is unlock bootloader and fastboot boot pure2014sb.zip
What can I do?
Thanks
PS: Does anyone know which firmware on this page is for the US Pure Edition phone? https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
Try deleting your Google account and clearing the play services cache and data. Then log back in.
Thanks but I already tried that plus factory resetting. I think the pure2014 screwed it up. I need to find out which stock image is the correct one for the pure edition
fbiryujin said:
Thanks but I already tried that plus factory resetting. I think the pure2014 screwed it up. I need to find out which stock image is the correct one for the pure edition
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The first one is the one you want. 4.4.4 dev
kcustom11 said:
The first one is the one you want. 4.4.4 dev
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So I want
MOTO X, GSM Dev Edition: KK-4.4.4-KXA21.12-L1.29.1-2 (Retail) MR4
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That's a very cryptic name for it. How can you tell them apart?
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So I want
That's a very cryptic name for it. How can you tell them apart?
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Well the other GSM images are older versions of android 4.4,4.2.... The ones at the bottom are for Verizon.
kcustom11 said:
The first one is the one you want. 4.4.4 dev
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kcustom11 said:
Well the other GSM images are older versions of android 4.4,4.2.... The ones at the bottom are for Verizon.
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Ok. How can I tell the difference between the GSM 2014 model and the GSM Dev Edition from 2013?
I just want to make sure 1000% that I don't flash the wrong firmware on a brand new device.
Thanks
fbiryujin said:
Ok. How can I tell the difference between the GSM 2014 model and the GSM Dev Edition from 2013?
I just want to make sure 1000% that I don't flash the wrong firmware on a brand new device.
Thanks
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As far as I can tell they're the same. I couldn't find separate sites for them. On my build I have KXE21 and this one has KXA21. I dont think there is any difference, but im not 100%. There's a rooted image on the android Dev section with the E21.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55776484
kcustom11 said:
As far as I can tell they're the same. I couldn't find separate sites for them. On my build I have KXE21 and this one has KXA21. I dont think there is any difference, but im not 100%. There's a rooted image on the android Dev section with the E21.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55776484
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So it looks like those file names are different once Motorola finally shares them with you. They are all for ghost, which if memory serves me correctly is the 2013 model.
fbiryujin said:
So it looks like those file names are different once Motorola finally shares them with you. They are all for ghost, which if memory serves me correctly is the 2013 model.
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Could be. Odd that Motorola would give you the wrong images. This zip has all the moto x 2014 images.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55873592
fbiryujin said:
So it looks like those file names are different once Motorola finally shares them with you. They are all for ghost, which if memory serves me correctly is the 2013 model.
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Do not flash the images listed on their site yet. The Moto X 2014 images haven't been uploaded on their website yet, Motorola has posted on their forums that their working on it though.
nithin1992 said:
Do not flash the images listed on their site yet. The Moto X 2014 images haven't been uploaded on their website yet, Motorola has posted on their forums that their working on it though.
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Thanks for the warning. Owning a first gen model, I thought those firmware names looked a little familiar. Motorola's support is extremely lacking this year save for one nice person who talks to /r/MotoX on reddit. I wonder what happened to their support. So far 3 out of 3 support agents (1 chat, 2 phone call) have mistaken my questions about unlocked bootloaders for GSM locks, and had no idea what a bootloader is, until I explained it to them in severely layman's terms. For now I'm back on my first gen since I sadly need Verizon, and I also "need" the unlocked bootloader.
On the plus side before getting the RMA I did fix the issue. It was a bad root attempt. I skipped the pure2014 method and just used TWRP + flashing SuperSU as if it was a first gen. (second gen TWRP of course)
Thanks for all the help though.