[Q] [Noob] Special Features in 3rd party ROMs? [AN, TC] - Moto X Q&A

Hi folks,
apparently I'm too much of a noob to be posting in dev threads directly.
Also, I come from the Nexus line, so please don't smash me down for the stupid questions that follow.. :angel:
I see that Assist, the Camera, Touchless Controls and Active Display are apps and thus registered in the play store. However, to my understanding, they require drivers to run with respect to the "X8".
Does this stuff work on ROMs like Carbon or PA? Can you shake your phone to open the camera, do notifications trigger Active Notifications, does "OK Google Now" trigger?
(Thing is, I'm anxious as this time I have something to lose compared to the Nexus 4 I had before and which I flashed regularily )
Any answer is much appreciated!

Spin_spinning said:
Hi folks,
apparently I'm too much of a noob to be posting in dev threads directly.
Also, I come from the Nexus line, so please don't smash me down for the stupid questions that follow.. :angel:
I see that Assist, the Camera, Touchless Controls and Active Display are apps and thus registered in the play store. However, to my understanding, they require drivers to run with respect to the "X8".
Does this stuff work on ROMs like Carbon or PA? Can you shake your phone to open the camera, do notifications trigger Active Notifications, does "OK Google Now" trigger?
(Thing is, I'm anxious as this time I have something to lose compared to the Nexus 4 I had before and which I flashed regularily )
Any answer is much appreciated!
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IF the ROM is "stock-based", these features are most likely active. If you flash a non-stock-based ROM such as CM11, you lose all those features.
If you are curious, and the OP doesn't say, just ask in the appropriate ROM-specific thread. Those individuals will have the definitive answers for you.

Thanks a lot! So basically I'll have to check whether the OP shows something along the lines..

Next time you have a question, be sure to use the search feature! I think I answered the same question a few days ago.
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Unless you need the Theme Chooser from Rom's I would HIGHLY suggest you install Xposed and then the Gravity Box module. Gravity Box has almost all the mods included in any rom and even better you get to choose which mods you want to use and don't have to worry about the "next nightly"/wiping/flashing/setting up your phone each time.
PS Make a clean Nandroid of your stock software before you flash anything.
Spin_spinning said:
Hi folks,
apparently I'm too much of a noob to be posting in dev threads directly.
Also, I come from the Nexus line, so please don't smash me down for the stupid questions that follow.. :angel:
I see that Assist, the Camera, Touchless Controls and Active Display are apps and thus registered in the play store. However, to my understanding, they require drivers to run with respect to the "X8".
Does this stuff work on ROMs like Carbon or PA? Can you shake your phone to open the camera, do notifications trigger Active Notifications, does "OK Google Now" trigger?
(Thing is, I'm anxious as this time I have something to lose compared to the Nexus 4 I had before and which I flashed regularily )
Any answer is much appreciated!
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Quick settings effing sucks

Google dropped the ball on this one. First, no gps button. Second, the buttons that do exist only take you to a menu (ie, the wifi menu) from where you can actually turn things on or off. Also, apparently no ability to customize whats in the quick settings.
With all the great implementations of quick settings available in both custom roms and widgets, google had a lot of great ideas from which it could have modeled its own quick settings, but somehow it managed to put out this worthless piece of garbage. I think most people will have to keep using widgetsoid or notification toggle and google's quick setting will almost never be used. What a disgrace.
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Add it to the other thread. ib4tl
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BennyJr said:
Add it to the other thread. ib4tl
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Another thread on how bad quick settings sucks? Link? If so my bad.
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The kind of people who want to badly customize it, is also the kind of people who do not need settings to do it.
I'm fine with it, if anything it'll probably only take the CM team a few minutes to change the functionality of it.
FISKER_Q said:
The kind of people who want to badly customize it, is also the kind of people who do not need settings to do it.
I'm fine with it, if anything it'll probably only take the CM team a few minutes to change the functionality of it.
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I agree. If anything, it gives a new platform/base for CM or other developers to build upon and a pretty spiffy one at that. I think it's a great first release for a feature. Just because you can see the future of it in current roms or inherently tell where it's going doesn't mean it shouldn't be a welcomed improvement. Could they have made it better? Of course, but that's not a reason to overreact and call it a "disgrace".
Yeah, I don't know what they're thinking. The buttons should obviously be toggles for quickly turning things on and off, not shortcuts to various settings menus. That's what the regular settings button in the notification shade is for. I was really excited when I first heard about this feature, since I expected Google to do the logical thing and put a bunch of useful toggles in there, but what they've ended up doing seems pretty pointless to me.
Pragmata said:
I agree. If anything, it gives a new platform/base for CM or other developers to build upon and a pretty spiffy one at that. I think it's a great first release for a feature. Just because you can see the future of it in current roms or inherently tell where it's going doesn't mean it shouldn't be a welcomed improvement. Could they have made it better? Of course, but that's not a reason to overreact and call it a "disgrace".
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A great first release? I think it's a horrid first release. It takes as many clicks to turn wifi on or off in this implementation as it does under the current ics or jelly bean 4.1 without the so-called quick settings. Moreover, this is hardly a new feature. It has been around in roms and widgets literally for years. People want one-touch access to the most commonly used settings, and this so-called quick settings fails to provide that. And who the heck made the decision not to put gps in there?
Even as a first release, Google should have surveyed what is currently out there and tried to make its implementation at least as useful. I think it utterly failed. If you don't, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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RoadHazard said:
Yeah, I don't know what they're thinking. The buttons should obviously be toggles for quickly turning things on and off, not shortcuts to various settings menus. That's what the regular settings button in the notification shade is for. I was really excited when I first heard about this feature, since I expected Google to do the logical thing and put a bunch of useful toggles in there, but what they've ended up doing seems pretty pointless to me.
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Thank you... I am not sure how anyone could disagree. Yeah, the two fingers to swipe down is cool, and maybe people think it looks nifty, but functionality is nearly nonexistent. And isn't functionality what android users demand first and foremost? If I want a beautiful but useless user interface, I'll look to apple.
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Do like me, ignore them and hope CM will keep what they are doing best...
I liked the idea of swiping twice to bring a second notification shade down. But yeah, them just linking to settings pages sucks a little. The ideal setting is to tap to toggle or hold to dive in and change settings in detail.
Ever since I found about about most settings just directing you to the appropriate settings menu, I was also disappointed.
The only proper toggle I think there is brightness, it brings up a little popup in the middle of the screen with a slider.
google's probably going to update it soon
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Google ******* fails again...
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Nexus 6 Notifications

One of my last hang ups on getting the Nexus 6 is how it will handle notifications. I know it will have Ambient Display, but from what I have been able to read, its not going to pulse like the Active Display of the normal Moto phones. Has anyone seen how the Nexus 6 will handle notifications yet?
This is exactly what I'm trying to find out, i keep checking all the unboxing and first hands on video and reviews
and they just keep talking about the size, specs and camera, i might have to pass on this nexus if it doesn't pulse in some form, i just can always keep picking up my phone check for a message.
Yep. If it doesn't pulse or blink or something, it will be a poor choice. Knowing you have a notification from across the room or in a dark room, is one of the things I like about 95% of Android phones.
The last phone I had without an LED light was the GS2, and I had to use other means.
It seems like such a simple request for anyone with the phone to check as well. Every unboxing and first impressions video I have watched (far too many) have all said that "it has moto x like notifications and that's a good thing" but every time they show the settings it doesn't indicate that it pulses or breathes. I was hoping that DL would have answered this question when they got their test units, but even they haven't yet.
I'm pretty sure Google knows it's silly to send a visible notification only once. I'm confident they've incorporated some form of pulse or renotification of some kind. Fingers crossed
In any case if it is or not just remember this. ITS A SOFTWARE FEATURE.
I mean come on guys, we are XDA. If its not perfect I am sure one or some of us here will be able to modify the feature to allow whatever we want. The feature is baked into 5.0 android now and is Open, all we have to do is work on a expanded settings system to customize it if it already does not have one. Hell if Xposed gets properly ported to ART we can surely see a module for it!
Stop acting like its the end of the world if it does/doesn't have the exact feature of software design as the Moto X. Its a software feature and if demand needs it I am sure we will find a way to make it happen. Have faith in XDA and the Developers.
Dr Faustus said:
In any case if it is or not just remember this. ITS A SOFTWARE FEATURE.
I mean come on guys, we are XDA. If its not perfect I am sure one or some of us here will be able to modify the feature to allow whatever we want. The feature is baked into 5.0 android now and is Open, all we have to do is work on a expanded settings system to customize it if it already does not have one. Hell if Xposed gets properly ported to ART we can surely see a module for it!
Stop acting like its the end of the world if it does/doesn't have the exact feature of software design as the Moto X. Its a software feature and if demand needs it I am sure we will find a way to make it happen. Have faith in XDA and the Developers.
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Its definitely not the end of the world. I'm not being dramatic and condemning the phone if it doesn't have it. Just looking for an answer to what I hope Google realizes is a basic need. I've been rooting and roming since the OG Droid days here so I know what XDA can do, I just don't believe this is a feature that I should need to rely on the Devs here to create.
First of all, it's something you can turn off. So if it doesn't work the way you want it to you don't have to use it.
Google is also pushing Android Wear which makes anything like Moto Display (ie Active Display) pointless cause you can see it on your wrist faster anyway.
Nickcu13 said:
First of all, it's something you can turn off. So if it doesn't work the way you want it to you don't have to use it.
Google is also pushing Android Wear which makes anything like Moto Display (ie Active Display) pointless cause you can see it on your wrist faster anyway.
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Not everybody can afford a $250 "wear" on top of their phone purchase though.
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20degrees said:
Not everybody can afford a $250 "wear" on top of their phone purchase though.
G3
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Or want to. I really have no desire to spend $250 on a watch that I have to replace every couple years because it becomes obsolete or the battery is well beyond is usefully life.
ABOsborn20 said:
Or want to. I really have no desire to spend $250 on a watch that I have to replace every couple years because it becomes obsolete or the battery is well beyond is usefully life.
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The battery on the G watch is really great actually.
And if you don't want Android wear, don't buy it. But that's where Google is going so some features that used to be present on phones that aren't as necessary now will potentially be removed.
Ambient display on N6 works similar to Moto X. It will pulse when the notification arrives. After that it will pulse every few minutes, in an adaptive time period - the longer you don't pick it up, the period between pulses will increase.
And of course custom rom's will be able to tweak this, I hope.
ECrispy said:
Ambient display on N6 works similar to Moto X. It will pulse when the notification arrives. After that it will pulse every few minutes, in an adaptive time period - the longer you don't pick it up, the period between pulses will increase.
And of course custom rom's will be able to tweak this, I hope.
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This sounds perfect. Do you have a source for this or speculation?
ABOsborn20 said:
This sounds perfect. Do you have a source for this or speculation?
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Its from the AndroidPolice hands on which is one of the most detailed ones.
ECrispy said:
Its from the AndroidPolice hands on which is one of the most detailed ones.
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Are you referring to this article: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-googles-nexus-6-really-big-really-beautiful/
I don't see anything about Active Display there...
Does anyone know if it has the IR sensors on the screen to wake the display up with a hand gesture just like it happens on the Moto X?
dualityim said:
Are you referring to this article: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-googles-nexus-6-really-big-really-beautiful/
I don't see anything about Active Display there...
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Yes. It's in the comments, the author replied to a question about Active Display.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TyhaOjME5g
Droid Life showing a video of the notifications. I can see why the battery savings aren't as big as they would be on Active Display
ABOsborn20 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TyhaOjME5g
Droid Life showing a video of the notifications. I can see why the battery savings aren't as big as they would be on Active Display
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Seems very unreliable, he had to try multiple times. Also why is pick up to activate so unreliable?
I really wish they'd copied the Moto version and added the sensors.
this seems like it will just nuke the battery in comparison to an LED.... I may end up just leaving this off.
won't this turn on constantly in a pocket as well?

[Q] Ascending / Increasing Ringtone

Hi there. I've got the N6 and so far it's great but one of the things that I absolutely hate about it is the Ascending Ringtone "feature" that either Google or Motorola has put on this phone. I'm one of those wacky people that likes to actually hear my phone ring, or alarm tone, or text notification at the volume that I set manually, rather than have the phone start the tone whisper quiet and then go up in volume.
I've heard of a custom ROM or two that have removed this feature (or at least made it OPTIONAL) but in my own personal experience, custom ROMs have always been too buggy for my taste. I wasn't exactly planning on rooting this phone, but I may just have to do that for a custom ROM that turns the ascending ring feature off or removes it all together. Sorry for the ramble, but I suppose my question is this: Is there a Custom ROM out there that is essentially a stock ROM - with absolutely nothing changed except for this? Is changing this feature something that someone like myself could accomplish by compiling a ROM on his own? I have no experience with this, only experience with flashing downloaded custom ROMs.
I don't mind stock 5.0.1, I just want to get rid of that ringtone issue. I've tried the "Disable Increasing Ring" app, but it has not helped.
Thanks for any help, or suggestions.
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Sorry if it's in the wrong section, but I figured this was a development question, and not just a "hey my battery life sucks" question.
Needs to be moved to Q&A....
@KennyG123
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This is a question about a custom ROM though - development, no?
Guys just report the thread, no need to comment or ping mods.
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akellar said:
Guys just report the thread, no need to comment or ping mods.
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Or they could maybe answer? Trying to find out of this is something I can do - i e create my own custom ROM - I'm not asking if anyone got their phone on a certain date or what case they're using.
indecks said:
Hi there. I've got the N6 and so far it's great but one of the things that I absolutely hate about it is the Ascending Ringtone "feature" that either Google or Motorola has put on this phone. I'm one of those wacky people that likes to actually hear my phone ring, or alarm tone, or text notification at the volume that I set manually, rather than have the phone start the tone whisper quiet and then go up in volume.
I've heard of a custom ROM or two that have removed this feature (or at least made it OPTIONAL) but in my own personal experience, custom ROMs have always been too buggy for my taste. I wasn't exactly planning on rooting this phone, but I may just have to do that for a custom ROM that turns the ascending ring feature off or removes it all together. Sorry for the ramble, but I suppose my question is this: Is there a Custom ROM out there that is essentially a stock ROM - with absolutely nothing changed except for this? Is changing this feature something that someone like myself could accomplish by compiling a ROM on his own? I have no experience with this, only experience with flashing downloaded custom ROMs.
I don't mind stock 5.0.1, I just want to get rid of that ringtone issue. I've tried the "Disable Increasing Ring" app, but it has not helped.
Thanks for any help, or suggestions.
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Let it go
Really? Any HELPFUL suggestions rather than brown noses and jackasses?
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Funny how nobody answered the question. Everybody too interested in getting the thread moved. Well, now its moved, so has anyone got an answer for the question? This issue bugs the hell outta me, especially since the coolest part of my chosen ringtone is right at the beginning.
stumpy352 said:
Funny how nobody answered the question. Everybody too interested in getting the thread moved. Well, now its moved, so has anyone got an answer for the question? This issue bugs the hell outta me, especially since the coolest part of my chosen ringtone is right at the beginning.
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Thanks, that's exactly how I feel. Also, bump.
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Bump. Id like to see a modification for this
This is why the question was originally posted in the ROM development section because it's about ROM development. No one here cares about it because they're concerned with hardware failure, account management, etc.
This isn't a "general" question.
Except the development section is for posting already developed items, not for requesting development...
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JasonJoel said:
Except the development section is for posting already developed items, not for requesting development...
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Then maybe they should remove the "This thread is a question" option from the system for that subforum.
Bump.
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Is there something that could be modified in the build.prop to change this behavior?
I just turned it off under settings.

[Q] Nexus 6 - why root?

Hi guys, so I've just received my n6 from my boyfriend as a gift (what an amazing boyfriend!) and I'm on the fence as to whether I want to root this gorgeous piece of technology.
A little background information on me and my mobile phone habits: have had 3 android phones, all of them rooted and all ran custom roms (with the exception of my latest m8). I predominantly root my phone for the little features that make my phone aesthetically and functionally snazzy, and xposed module was my absolute go to for all that jazz. Other root apps were awesome too, but gravity box and sense toolbox were absolute essentials for me. That said, although I think I do know a thing or two about rooting, I'm by no means an expert or entirely proficient in root-language.
Now that xposed is a definite no-no, and given that most of my mods were executed through xposed previously, would there be a good reason for me to root? In the tiny amount of research I've done thus far I haven't found an alternative for gravity box nor have I found an app that would allow me the same functionality such as swapping the recent and back button, reducing the size of the navigational bar, expanding the sound volume menu etc. What do you think? Root?
Your thoughts would be appreciated! Many thanks in advance!
I root just for ad blocking purposes. It makes a huge difference in everyday use.
id10terrordfw said:
I root just for ad blocking purposes. It makes a huge difference in everyday use.
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What do you use for ad blocking
jiv101 said:
What do you use for ad blocking
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Adaway. It works so well.
A thread on this topic already exist with the solutions to your question, http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/root-n6-doesnt-make-sense-to-t2981048
Its 5 pages long so I'm sure you can find many reasons to root.
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[Q] Would this even be possible?

I really dislike the fact that the Note for has a very cool (I mean, it makes my slightly cool iPad look warm..) screen calibration. Is there anyone who'd even know how to add this to a Kernel for CM12? (not stock touchwiz) would be cool to warm it up a touch and get that eye hurting blue under control (I know it's not that bad for most, but I'm really sensitive to minute details like that.) Figured I'd at least ask. Also, I'm working on my first "custom" ROM. Essentially I want to bring back some of the helpful features that touchwiz offers within CM12. QUICK SOMEOME SCREAM! Haha I know the point of CM12 is to get rid of that, but the point of AOSP is to enjoy open source freedoms. So far I've gotten a few stock apps running as well as some other customisations
Alcor10 said:
I really dislike the fact that the Note for has a very cool (I mean, it makes my slightly cool iPad look warm..) screen calibration. Is there anyone who'd even know how to add this to a Kernel for CM12? (not stock touchwiz) would be cool to warm it up a touch and get that eye hurting blue under control (I know it's not that bad for most, but I'm really sensitive to minute details like that.) Figured I'd at least ask. Also, I'm working on my first "custom" ROM. Essentially I want to bring back some of the helpful features that touchwiz offers within CM12. QUICK SOMEOME SCREAM! Haha I know the point of CM12 is to get rid of that, but the point of AOSP is to enjoy open source freedoms. So far I've gotten a few stock apps running as well as some other customisations
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Check out CF Lumen on the play store.
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I know of many apps for that. The issues with apps is that they run on top of the system. A kernel tweak would give you optimized adjustments. Essentially setting the display natively vs actively updating it. I hope this makes sense. I had an app that did that, but the constant running meant that it inherently caused the system to be stressed more. (Now this app could do much better, and please let me know if it does, but the app I had used an unnecessarily high amount of RAM for what little it was doing.) In my mind it would be simpler to just warm the display up natively from the kernel. Also (Full credit to whoever did it) I would be able to post the ROM file already modified like that without needing to make that app a system app.
look in the cm remix thread
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look in the cm remix thread
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Thank you for the suggestion, but in this case a link would help. Searching for it leads to MANY results, haha
ok, here is the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/development/rom-cmremix-rom-v2-5-12-23-14-t2981479
wase4711 said:
ok, here is the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/development/rom-cmremix-rom-v2-5-12-23-14-t2981479
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Thank you sir!! I made a quick little post in there to ask them what's up, shall see if that already does it, or if it can be added.

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