Hello All,
I am reaching out to the community to ask a couple of questions, the main one being did anyone with the Moto X Dev Edition receive the OTA that the standard edition did? I only ask because I am considering upgrading from my standard, carrier unlocked Moto X (that still hasn't been updated) to an official T-mobile Dev edition. I could use the extra space and plus I like the upside of being able to resale it at a higher price once I'm ready to upgrade again.
Thanks in advance!
Best,
CM
conspiracymorpheus said:
Hello All,
I am reaching out to the community to ask a couple of questions, the main one being did anyone with the Moto X Dev Edition receive the OTA that the standard edition did? I only ask because I am considering upgrading from my standard, carrier unlocked Moto X (that still hasn't been updated) to an official T-mobile Dev edition. I could use the extra space and plus I like the upside of being able to resale it at a higher price once I'm ready to upgrade again.
Thanks in advance!
Best,
CM
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Yes, my Verizon Dev Edition received it, and you know Verizon is always going to be the last to release OTA updates.
ak47m said:
Yes, my Verizon Dev Edition received it, and you know Verizon is always going to be the last to release OTA updates.
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No doubt. It seems that the order of updates is T-Mobile>US Cellular>AT&T>Verizon..
Thanks again man!
So Verizon seems to have a tendency to kill the phones and updates for their customers. It seems like they dont approve certain things in advance so the updates for phone always come extremely late for verizon phones. I dont knot the specific terms for what I am talking about but I am sure most of you understand what I am talking about.
Anyways, it's time for my phone upgrade and I am strongly considering getting the Moto X. I am curious if this has or appears that it will be a problem in the future for the Moto X? I hate when companies dont release or approve certain information and therefore we get updates months after people with the same phone on other carriers get them.
Any advice would be appreciated, and sorry for being somewhat vague.
Thanks!
So you're talking about the phone that got upgraded to kitkat first?
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1ManWolfePack said:
So you're talking about the phone that got upgraded to kitkat first?
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The phone that got the Kit Kat OTA before the Nexus devices?
If you're staying with VZW, then the moto X is your best bet for fast upgrades. I'm not positive, but I think Moto phones are the only phones on VZW which are running 4.4.
Carriers deserve some of the blame for upgrade latency, but truthfully most of it is on the hardware makers side. The GNex on VZW was an interesting and more complex case. I don't see the Moto X having the same issues.
Droid Razr/Razr Maxx is still getting OTAs. I got one this morning for mine and that phone came out in January 2012. And as others mentioned, the Moto X was the first phone to get an OTA of 4.4.
Thanks for everyones feedback. I was a bit torn on my next phone but I think im going to go ahead and order my X tonight Looking forward to something different from the GNex!
I'm going to get flamed for this but I'm getting irritated with Verizon or Motorola on how long this is taking. The 4.4 update took 4 weeks max and was a big update and this "minor" update has taken 2 months.....I don't understand what the hold up is. I bought this phone off contract because I wanted a phone that would receive updates relatively quickly and based my decision on the fast update to KitKat. I know there are a few Moto people here.....any insight on the delay? I do understand this is minor....just like being up to date. Okay...everyone yell at me for asking about this .
I'm used to updates taking 6-12 months, so I'm not complaining. It hasn't been that long since the last update.
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Ryno77 said:
I'm going to get flamed for this but I'm getting irritated with Verizon or Motorola on how long this is taking. The 4.4 update took 4 weeks max and was a big update and this "minor" update has taken 2 months.....I don't understand what the hold up is. I bought this phone off contract because I wanted a phone that would receive updates relatively quickly and based my decision on the fast update to KitKat. I know there are a few Moto people here.....any insight on the delay? I do understand this is minor....just like being up to date. Okay...everyone yell at me for asking about this .
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Reason why because people are going to hard brick the frigging devices, all unlockable boot loader firmware will be sent out first to see how things go, at that point moto will send out Verizon and at&t firmware and watch all the hard bricks that happen, hope I'm wrong .
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How come with have a 4.4.2 deodexed verison for Verizon? Isnt that the release?
flashallthetime said:
Reason why because people are going to hard brick the frigging devices, all unlockable boot loader firmware will be sent out first to see how things go, at that point moto will send out Verizon and at&t firmware and watch all the hard bricks that happen, hope I'm wrong .
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Well, that's a reasonable explanation . Why are they messing with the bootloader with every update? I think it was you that posted in another thread about PM'ing this info rather than posting it on an open thread? If you don't mind I'd appreciate your explanation on this..If it's not a hassle PM'ing me with the info you have would be very much appreciated. Thanks.
The first update was a special occasion. Verizon never pushes crap out that fast. Money changed hands to get the first X and G updates through carriers ASAP is my guess. The carriers also got burned by the 4.4 exchange bugs which have probably been causing thousands of customer service calls and returns.
We're on a more normal schedule now, although still faster than Samsung or HTC as there is little to modify. Expect Verizon to be last with a 3-6 month delay for updates. Sunday will be 2 months since 4.4.2 pushed to the nexus 5. I would still be (pleasantly) surprised if we saw it before March or even April.
If you bought this phone thinking every update would be within weeks I'll remind you than a single data point does not make a trend.
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Ryno77 said:
Well, that's a reasonable explanation . Why are they messing with the bootloader with every update? I think it was you that posted in another thread about PM'ing this info rather than posting it on an open thread? If you don't mind I'd appreciate your explanation on this..If it's not a hassle PM'ing me with the info you have would be very much appreciated. Thanks.
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Verizon and at&t have locked boot loader on their consumer version, we all know about slapmymoto and all the root hacks, so does moto. The reason why the eliminated boot loader downgrade is due to slapmymoto, no other reason to do it. Just my thoughts . Moto left the vulnerability in the 4.4 upgrade , well its gone now so it should decrease hard bricks in theory but there's always someone who wants to stick a square peg in a round hole
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I'm pretty sure downgrading the bootloader hasn't been possible on many recent moto phones. I agree that it's likely to prevent exploits, but it's not something new or unique to the X
Having just received my Verizon Dev Ed only a week or so ago, it updated to 4.4 almost immediately. What's better about 4.4.2?
We should also stress that some people have the update. Motorola is known for doing "Soak Tests" which, is a good idea. For production devices even if you HAVE all the specs on the device and drivers and such with the source code for them so as a developer you can go and in really look at everything... Takes time to not only make sure it works with the device on a basic level (compiles, boots, phone calls, etc..) there is the fact that bugs crop up and I have read a lot of things about it being pulled because of devices being locked - that of course has to be solved and since each device comes with a bootloader for the carrier it is on (unless I'm wrong in that since Sprint uses the 1060 as well and has the update) I would imagine Verizon is being cautious and giving it extra time. Perhaps Verizon noticed some bugs and the other carriers said to release and work on a fix later and Verizon said - no, fix it first.
I know it is hard to think of Verizon as a 'good guy' like that but it is possible, last thing they need is another phone update the kills devices - they've played that game before.
Anyway, just my two cents worth. I think it is being tested and tweaked before release.
Comparing this to the fact that my Galaxy Note 8.0 (which has no carrier cruft) still is on v4.2.2 and has been since October, so... I'm pretty happy with waiting a few months knowing that they'll get it out to me for the Moto X.
Roland Stone said:
What's better about 4.4.2?
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My question exactly. I bet most people who harp about updates don't even know what the changes are. I have 4.4.2 on my N7 and I can't tell a difference in performance compared to 4.4. Most of the changes are camera related for the N5 and N7 which doesn't affect the Moto x's camera since it's updates come from the play store.
flashallthetime said:
Reason why because people are going to hard brick the frigging devices, all unlockable boot loader firmware will be sent out first to see how things go, at that point moto will send out Verizon and at&t firmware and watch all the hard bricks that happen, hope I'm wrong .
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet
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You're not wrong. LOL. Unfortunately.
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Verizon customer complaining about slow updates? Surprise surprise. Dude there are phones on Verizon right now that are still on 4.1-4.3 I'd relax and thank my lucky stars Motorola is only taking months instead of years.
If fast updates were so important you should have gotten a developer edition. I've had 4.4.2 for at least a week now and I had most of the 4.4 bugs fixed months ago
MotoX GSM Developer Edition, Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted, Stock 4.4.2 Great Britain on T-Mobile !
SymbioticGenius said:
Verizon customer complaining about slow updates? Surprise surprise. Dude there are phones on Verizon right now that are still on 4.1-4.3 I'd relax and thank my lucky stars Motorola is only taking months instead of years.
If fast updates were so important you should have gotten a developer edition. I've had 4.4.2 for at least a week now and I had most of the 4.4 bugs fixed months ago
MotoX GSM Developer Edition, Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted, Stock 4.4.2 Great Britain on T-Mobile !
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Developer Editions don't get updates any faster than non-DE versions. The carriers still have to release the updates. I have a VZW DE, and I do not have 4.4.2 yet.
You do realize that you can install it yourself right? There are images all over the place now.
MotoX GSM Developer Edition, Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted, Stock 4.4.2 Great Britain on T-Mobile !
SymbioticGenius said:
You do realize that you can install it yourself right? There are images all over the place now.
MotoX GSM Developer Edition, Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted, Stock 4.4.2 Great Britain on T-Mobile !
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I don't think there are Verizon/xt1060 4.4.2 images available yet. There are 4.4 images readily available though,
SymbioticGenius said:
You do realize that you can install it yourself right? There are images all over the place now.
MotoX GSM Developer Edition, Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted, Stock 4.4.2 Great Britain on T-Mobile !
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I understand I can flash the system image from another service provider. Everything I've come across is a sbf file....I can't flash just system from that can I? My last two phones have been from Samsung so I'm not too familiar with this stuff yet.
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I understand I can flash the system image from another service provider. Everything I've come across is a sbf file....I can't flash just system from that can I? My last two phones have been from Samsung so I'm not too familiar with this stuff yet.
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I highly discourage you from doing this. There have been several people bricking by flashing the wrong thing. I almost bricked mine, but was able to save it. Then I had to spend 2 hours on the phone with Verizon because something I flashed made my phone show up as a non-Verizon device and temporarily blacklisted it. It now registers as a test device in Verizon's system, and I don't know what the implications of that is if I try to sell it later to someone else.
It was absolutely not worth it and I should have waited for my carrier to officially release an upgrade. I'm sure some here will disagree with me, but I'm telling you from personal experience.
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I highly discourage you from doing this. There have been several people bricking by flashing the wrong thing. I almost bricked mine, but was able to save it. Then I had to spend 2 hours on the phone with Verizon because something I flashed made my phone show up as a non-Verizon device and temporarily blacklisted it. It now registers as a test device in Verizon's system, and I don't know what the implications of that is if I try to sell it later to someone else.
It was absolutely not worth it and I should have waited for my carrier to officially release an upgrade. I'm sure some here will disagree with me, but I'm telling you from personal experience.
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Yes..this. be patient. 4.4.2 won't change your life or anything.
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I to agree with the previous poster, as you said you came from a Sammy product, forget and throw all the past experience with Sammy out the window. Moto is a totally different beast. Wait till your sbf firmware is available and flash that. I have seen to many know it alls royally screw their brand new moto's up. Patience soon all will be for told , I can see in the not so distance future the 4.4.2 update
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Hi,
I just bought the Moto X from At&t (contract). I hear that the PE is already getting Android 5.0 Updates! Is there any chance the I can get those updates? I do not mind purchasing unlock codes etc.
If not, any idea how long At&t will take to infect the 5.0 update with their stuff and send out the updates? Or should I just return this and purchase the Pure Edition.
Thanks
ayushag96 said:
Hi,
I just bought the Moto X from At&t (contract). I hear that the PE is already getting Android 5.0 Updates! Is there any chance the I can get those updates? I do not mind purchasing unlock codes etc.
If not, any idea how long At&t will take to infect the 5.0 update with their stuff and send out the updates? Or should I just return this and purchase the Pure Edition.
Thanks
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Supposibly the XT1095 (Pure) is getting a soak test from what I am reading. If you have the money I would recomend getting that over the AT&T version. I currently have the XT1095 and using it on AT&T.
Either are great phones, however with the AT&T version your locked to AT&T and locked boot loader.
If money isn't an issue, return it and get the Pure Edition. No bloatware, and it has an unlockable bootloader and is very easily rooted. Otherwise, just sit tight, your X will get official lollipop VERY soon.
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A while ago I visited the moto maker website, and bought the xt1095 t mobile pure edition. I am currently using it on a Canadian carrier named Fido. I still haven't receive the 5.1 update and I am getting anxious, since 5.0 runs fairly slowly on the moto x, and I really look forward to the speed boost offered by 5.1. But will there be a delay for updates because I am in Canada? And also a lot of people have got the 5.1 update already, is it still in a soak test process? Please let me know, I literally checks the update every hour lol.
jeffreyyang415 said:
A while ago I visited the moto maker website, and bought the xt1095 t mobile pure edition. I am currently using it on a Canadian carrier named Fido. I still haven't receive the 5.1 update and I am getting anxious, since 5.0 runs fairly slowly on the moto x, and I really look forward to the speed boost offered by 5.1. But will there be a delay for updates because I am in Canada? And also a lot of people have got the 5.1 update already, is it still in a soak test process? Please let me know, I literally checks the update every hour lol.
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Still on a soak test the second one actually for our 1095..... Things have slowed down considerably.....
Sure wish google would have kept Motorola It could have been like Nokia and windows, rock solid Nexus like phones lol.