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Is the OTA available for Verizon yet?
km8j said:
Is the OTA available for Verizon yet?
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It hasnt been released as far as i know.
i dont think they have even started the process for a soak test afaik
That is what I figured, good ole slow verizon. Can you pull the APK from another carrier for the camera? Would that work?
km8j said:
That is what I figured, good ole slow verizon. Can you pull the APK from another carrier for the camera? Would that work?
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From what i hear, apk won't work. Will have to wait for the VZW OTA.
I called to complain about some issues with my X and asked about the update and they have the update version as the current version for the phone, but if you buy one, you still have to wait for the update. They say that Motorola is the one holding the update due to a staged rollout depending on when you bought the phone. Not sure i believe that.
Yea... i dont have a link handy but one of the android sites has a quote from Motorola basically saying it's Verizon's fault now, not theirs.
GoClifGo05 said:
Yea... i dont have a link handy but one of the android sites has a quote from Motorola basically saying it's Verizon's fault now, not theirs.
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And Verizon blames moto and refuses to acknowledge that the update exists
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Lol yes. Not surprised but still pissed. I guess VZW has to make sure all the bloat is in tact and exploits are "gone" before they release. Siiiigh.
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How do these OTA updates not "leak"? Surely someone, somewhere has it.
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I've read nothing nor heard anything relating to a Verizon Moto X update. Not even as much as speculation that Verizon may be prepping the update.
wah.... I am wanting that update badly for the camera.....
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Can one of you with a 16 GB model post your system version? TIA
On average how far behind is Verizon usually compared to other carriers? Like not exaggerating, literally multiple months or just a few weeks to a month?
mikeosu said:
On average how far behind is Verizon usually compared to other carriers? Like not exaggerating, literally multiple months or just a few weeks to a month?
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Usually months 2-4. Look how far after a new device is released on all carriers and then verizon gets it 4 months later.
luniz7 said:
Usually months 2-4. Look how far after a new device is released on all carriers and then verizon gets it 4 months later.
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That's ridiculous. They better watch out once the other carriers get their LTE coverage out to full capacity. Verizon might be on to 5G or LTE-A but there will be a lot of content people getting newer phones and faster updates on the other carriers even if original LTE is "old".
Verizon isn't always that far behind with updates but with the Moto X update I will admit this is getting a bit ridiculous.
remember that verizon also is prob going to patch the camera for X/Ultra/Maxx/Mini at the same time... i work for an indirect verizon retailer and have a good relationship with 2 motorola reps. the patch is coming as far as they have told me.. just waiting for verizon to finalize on all four devices. TMo/ATT/Sprint have one device.. Verizon has 4 LOL. Patience grasshoppers.. patience.
If thats the case then I love that they are holding up 1 phone that could have 2 core issues resolved just so they can update 4 devices at once......
So Verizon seems to have a tendency to kill the phones and updates for their customers. It seems like they dont approve certain things in advance so the updates for phone always come extremely late for verizon phones. I dont knot the specific terms for what I am talking about but I am sure most of you understand what I am talking about.
Anyways, it's time for my phone upgrade and I am strongly considering getting the Moto X. I am curious if this has or appears that it will be a problem in the future for the Moto X? I hate when companies dont release or approve certain information and therefore we get updates months after people with the same phone on other carriers get them.
Any advice would be appreciated, and sorry for being somewhat vague.
Thanks!
So you're talking about the phone that got upgraded to kitkat first?
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1ManWolfePack said:
So you're talking about the phone that got upgraded to kitkat first?
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The phone that got the Kit Kat OTA before the Nexus devices?
If you're staying with VZW, then the moto X is your best bet for fast upgrades. I'm not positive, but I think Moto phones are the only phones on VZW which are running 4.4.
Carriers deserve some of the blame for upgrade latency, but truthfully most of it is on the hardware makers side. The GNex on VZW was an interesting and more complex case. I don't see the Moto X having the same issues.
Droid Razr/Razr Maxx is still getting OTAs. I got one this morning for mine and that phone came out in January 2012. And as others mentioned, the Moto X was the first phone to get an OTA of 4.4.
Thanks for everyones feedback. I was a bit torn on my next phone but I think im going to go ahead and order my X tonight Looking forward to something different from the GNex!
I'm going to get flamed for this but I'm getting irritated with Verizon or Motorola on how long this is taking. The 4.4 update took 4 weeks max and was a big update and this "minor" update has taken 2 months.....I don't understand what the hold up is. I bought this phone off contract because I wanted a phone that would receive updates relatively quickly and based my decision on the fast update to KitKat. I know there are a few Moto people here.....any insight on the delay? I do understand this is minor....just like being up to date. Okay...everyone yell at me for asking about this .
I'm used to updates taking 6-12 months, so I'm not complaining. It hasn't been that long since the last update.
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Ryno77 said:
I'm going to get flamed for this but I'm getting irritated with Verizon or Motorola on how long this is taking. The 4.4 update took 4 weeks max and was a big update and this "minor" update has taken 2 months.....I don't understand what the hold up is. I bought this phone off contract because I wanted a phone that would receive updates relatively quickly and based my decision on the fast update to KitKat. I know there are a few Moto people here.....any insight on the delay? I do understand this is minor....just like being up to date. Okay...everyone yell at me for asking about this .
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Reason why because people are going to hard brick the frigging devices, all unlockable boot loader firmware will be sent out first to see how things go, at that point moto will send out Verizon and at&t firmware and watch all the hard bricks that happen, hope I'm wrong .
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How come with have a 4.4.2 deodexed verison for Verizon? Isnt that the release?
flashallthetime said:
Reason why because people are going to hard brick the frigging devices, all unlockable boot loader firmware will be sent out first to see how things go, at that point moto will send out Verizon and at&t firmware and watch all the hard bricks that happen, hope I'm wrong .
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Well, that's a reasonable explanation . Why are they messing with the bootloader with every update? I think it was you that posted in another thread about PM'ing this info rather than posting it on an open thread? If you don't mind I'd appreciate your explanation on this..If it's not a hassle PM'ing me with the info you have would be very much appreciated. Thanks.
The first update was a special occasion. Verizon never pushes crap out that fast. Money changed hands to get the first X and G updates through carriers ASAP is my guess. The carriers also got burned by the 4.4 exchange bugs which have probably been causing thousands of customer service calls and returns.
We're on a more normal schedule now, although still faster than Samsung or HTC as there is little to modify. Expect Verizon to be last with a 3-6 month delay for updates. Sunday will be 2 months since 4.4.2 pushed to the nexus 5. I would still be (pleasantly) surprised if we saw it before March or even April.
If you bought this phone thinking every update would be within weeks I'll remind you than a single data point does not make a trend.
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Ryno77 said:
Well, that's a reasonable explanation . Why are they messing with the bootloader with every update? I think it was you that posted in another thread about PM'ing this info rather than posting it on an open thread? If you don't mind I'd appreciate your explanation on this..If it's not a hassle PM'ing me with the info you have would be very much appreciated. Thanks.
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Verizon and at&t have locked boot loader on their consumer version, we all know about slapmymoto and all the root hacks, so does moto. The reason why the eliminated boot loader downgrade is due to slapmymoto, no other reason to do it. Just my thoughts . Moto left the vulnerability in the 4.4 upgrade , well its gone now so it should decrease hard bricks in theory but there's always someone who wants to stick a square peg in a round hole
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I'm pretty sure downgrading the bootloader hasn't been possible on many recent moto phones. I agree that it's likely to prevent exploits, but it's not something new or unique to the X
Having just received my Verizon Dev Ed only a week or so ago, it updated to 4.4 almost immediately. What's better about 4.4.2?
We should also stress that some people have the update. Motorola is known for doing "Soak Tests" which, is a good idea. For production devices even if you HAVE all the specs on the device and drivers and such with the source code for them so as a developer you can go and in really look at everything... Takes time to not only make sure it works with the device on a basic level (compiles, boots, phone calls, etc..) there is the fact that bugs crop up and I have read a lot of things about it being pulled because of devices being locked - that of course has to be solved and since each device comes with a bootloader for the carrier it is on (unless I'm wrong in that since Sprint uses the 1060 as well and has the update) I would imagine Verizon is being cautious and giving it extra time. Perhaps Verizon noticed some bugs and the other carriers said to release and work on a fix later and Verizon said - no, fix it first.
I know it is hard to think of Verizon as a 'good guy' like that but it is possible, last thing they need is another phone update the kills devices - they've played that game before.
Anyway, just my two cents worth. I think it is being tested and tweaked before release.
Comparing this to the fact that my Galaxy Note 8.0 (which has no carrier cruft) still is on v4.2.2 and has been since October, so... I'm pretty happy with waiting a few months knowing that they'll get it out to me for the Moto X.
Roland Stone said:
What's better about 4.4.2?
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My question exactly. I bet most people who harp about updates don't even know what the changes are. I have 4.4.2 on my N7 and I can't tell a difference in performance compared to 4.4. Most of the changes are camera related for the N5 and N7 which doesn't affect the Moto x's camera since it's updates come from the play store.
flashallthetime said:
Reason why because people are going to hard brick the frigging devices, all unlockable boot loader firmware will be sent out first to see how things go, at that point moto will send out Verizon and at&t firmware and watch all the hard bricks that happen, hope I'm wrong .
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You're not wrong. LOL. Unfortunately.
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Verizon customer complaining about slow updates? Surprise surprise. Dude there are phones on Verizon right now that are still on 4.1-4.3 I'd relax and thank my lucky stars Motorola is only taking months instead of years.
If fast updates were so important you should have gotten a developer edition. I've had 4.4.2 for at least a week now and I had most of the 4.4 bugs fixed months ago
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SymbioticGenius said:
Verizon customer complaining about slow updates? Surprise surprise. Dude there are phones on Verizon right now that are still on 4.1-4.3 I'd relax and thank my lucky stars Motorola is only taking months instead of years.
If fast updates were so important you should have gotten a developer edition. I've had 4.4.2 for at least a week now and I had most of the 4.4 bugs fixed months ago
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Developer Editions don't get updates any faster than non-DE versions. The carriers still have to release the updates. I have a VZW DE, and I do not have 4.4.2 yet.
You do realize that you can install it yourself right? There are images all over the place now.
MotoX GSM Developer Edition, Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted, Stock 4.4.2 Great Britain on T-Mobile !
SymbioticGenius said:
You do realize that you can install it yourself right? There are images all over the place now.
MotoX GSM Developer Edition, Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted, Stock 4.4.2 Great Britain on T-Mobile !
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I don't think there are Verizon/xt1060 4.4.2 images available yet. There are 4.4 images readily available though,
SymbioticGenius said:
You do realize that you can install it yourself right? There are images all over the place now.
MotoX GSM Developer Edition, Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted, Stock 4.4.2 Great Britain on T-Mobile !
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I understand I can flash the system image from another service provider. Everything I've come across is a sbf file....I can't flash just system from that can I? My last two phones have been from Samsung so I'm not too familiar with this stuff yet.
Ryno77 said:
I understand I can flash the system image from another service provider. Everything I've come across is a sbf file....I can't flash just system from that can I? My last two phones have been from Samsung so I'm not too familiar with this stuff yet.
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I highly discourage you from doing this. There have been several people bricking by flashing the wrong thing. I almost bricked mine, but was able to save it. Then I had to spend 2 hours on the phone with Verizon because something I flashed made my phone show up as a non-Verizon device and temporarily blacklisted it. It now registers as a test device in Verizon's system, and I don't know what the implications of that is if I try to sell it later to someone else.
It was absolutely not worth it and I should have waited for my carrier to officially release an upgrade. I'm sure some here will disagree with me, but I'm telling you from personal experience.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
I highly discourage you from doing this. There have been several people bricking by flashing the wrong thing. I almost bricked mine, but was able to save it. Then I had to spend 2 hours on the phone with Verizon because something I flashed made my phone show up as a non-Verizon device and temporarily blacklisted it. It now registers as a test device in Verizon's system, and I don't know what the implications of that is if I try to sell it later to someone else.
It was absolutely not worth it and I should have waited for my carrier to officially release an upgrade. I'm sure some here will disagree with me, but I'm telling you from personal experience.
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Yes..this. be patient. 4.4.2 won't change your life or anything.
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I to agree with the previous poster, as you said you came from a Sammy product, forget and throw all the past experience with Sammy out the window. Moto is a totally different beast. Wait till your sbf firmware is available and flash that. I have seen to many know it alls royally screw their brand new moto's up. Patience soon all will be for told , I can see in the not so distance future the 4.4.2 update
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Perhaps this is a stupid question, and if so I have no doubt at last a few people will let me know, but I purchased an AT&T Moto X which I used on Go Phone for 6 months, after which I unlocked and switched to Straight Talk. My question is, with AT&T now doing soak tests on 4.4.4, will I still get the update since I'm no longer an AT&T customer? And if not, how can I update when it's available? Thanks guys.
Yes, you will get AT&T updates, as long as AT&T releases them. But I am pretty sure AT&T will not release any updates for Moto X.
AT&T doesn't actually release or distribute the update, it's all done by Motorola. AT&T only has to approve of the build before Motorola can release it. The update comes straight from Motorola servers, and whether you're using AT&T or not is irrelevant when it is distributed.
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Excellent! Thank you!
I bought an off contrct unclojed xt1097 from telus. Their marketing calls in pure edition but we know that the xt1095 is the real pure one. I contacted telus about the lollipop update and they said that they were waiting on Motorola and then contacted Motorola through the help chat on our phones and the Moto rep asked me to check with my carrier as they are the ones releasing. So frustrating how these people know nothing.
Has anyone with an xt1097 got any info or news ro share? Anyone receive a soak test?
Thanks for sharing!
I too have the xt1097 and havent received anything. The update for this version is not out yet, but according to mobile syrup, motorola is working with the canadian carriers to push it as soon as possible.
cb_2014 said:
I too have the xt1097 and havent received anything. The update for this version is not out yet, but according to mobile syrup, motorola is working with the canadian carriers to push it as soon as possible.
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Pretty sure Telus is the only Canadian carrier that has the Moto x 2014......
Gage_Hero said:
Pretty sure Telus is the only Canadian carrier that has the Moto x 2014......
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At the moment yes, but it will coming to wind or another carrier soon. Also lollipop is being pushed to the moto G on several networks and the 1st gen moto X on rogers. Hence working with Canadian carriers to bring lollipop to moto devices and not just to the moto X 2014 on Telus.
I do hope it is soon as I don't want to mess around too much with the phone just yet. There isn't really anything bloated about the Telus version, it just has some wifi #TELUSDIRECT and such in it.
Nexus 5 updates on Telus?
Does anyone know how long after kit kat was released did telus nexus 5 owners see their updates?
Lol comment fail. Anyways how quickly did n5 owners get 4.4.2 over the original 4.4.x firmware?
I too would like to know when we would receive lollipop.
Us xt1096 owners are still on 4.4.4 as well
I also have a 1097 Brazilian Retail Moto X and no updates here yet.
As it is a retail version I wonder what would be the trouble to release the update along with those pure editions. The Brazilian retail is the closest thing to a pure edition that is not being sold exclusively in US.
Hope they release it soon.
I know what you mean. It seems to be the exactly the same as the pure edition with absolutely no carrier bloat even bought from my carrier (TELUS). It would be very surprising if they sit on a working lollipop build for the xt1095 without also quickly updating the xt1097. As far as I know and I could be wrong is they only need a modified modem for the xt1097. How long can that take?
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I also have a 1097 Brazilian Retail Moto X and no updates here yet.
As it is a retail version I wonder what would be the trouble to release the update along with those pure editions. The Brazilian retail is the closest thing to a pure edition that is not being sold exclusively in US.
Hope they release it soon.
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I don't think it'll take too long for us (I mean Brazilian xt1097 retail) to get it. Changes seem to be minimal and brazil is pretty high with motorola. My bet is we start getting it by next week. Hang on dude, Im with you on that!
Just chatted with a Motorola rep and she said it should be coming in a few weeks.
Leegalaxy said:
Just chatted with a Motorola rep and she said it should be coming in a few weeks.
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Pics for proof (not that I trust her actually knowing for sure).
Our turn?
Xt1095, then xt1096. Next xt1097? One can hope!
Can't be too long now, Verizon released it yesterday.....
Wind Mobile is now selling the Moto X. Haven't been able to confirm the model number or exact software version yet.
Looks like the same one as telus, almost the same ad..... looks like most of the southern part of the world is getting Lollipop, maybe it is too cold for it to travel here.....
Steve-x said:
Wind Mobile is now selling the Moto X. Haven't been able to confirm the model number or exact software version yet.
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i owe this moto from WIND too here is the model number XT1097 LET ME KNOW IF YOU NEED MORE INFO
kasrawis said:
i owe this moto from WIND too here is the model number XT1097 LET ME KNOW IF YOU NEED MORE INFO
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Yes! Please let us know all of the version info.