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[Q] Moto X Regular vs Developer Edition

Basically my questions are simple, I tried Googling quite extensively but cannot find a comprehensive answer.
Moto X Motomaker vs the Moto X Developer Edition pro and cons...
Here is what I think I know
Motomaker (MM from this point forward) is how you make it, has 16 and 32gb models and comes with a locked bootloader that must be unlocked to flash a ROM or change the fancy things like battery icons and the framework mods. Must wait for verizon to push updates to you at their own rate.. let me know if i'm wrong..
Developer Edition (DE from this for forward) is only 2 tone black and white and only available in 32gb. Bootloader is unlocked stock, can flash roms, change framework, custom apps, mod and tethering, android updates available whenever Google releases them or just come to XDA and find a leak.
I'm wondering if getting the DE is going to be worth the cost and if i comes BLANK with no Verizon bloat on-board. can i still use active notification and camera gesture etc if i flash a ROM?
I understand that the idea flashing a ROM is to get as close as humanly possible to stock android which it already is.
I'm going to be purchasing tomorrow so if you are all out there a timely response would be awesome!
On a side note I'm getting this phone to replace an S4 thats limping along with Safestrap and a Nexus Launcher.

Who's your carrier? T-mobile and Sprint allow you to unlock your bootloader http://www.droid-life.com/2013/09/09/t-mobile-moto-x-added-to-motorola-bootloader-unlock-program/
If you have Verizon or AT&T you'll need to get the dev edition.
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Verizon Wireless..

Dev edition it is
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If you want to run latest versions of android as soon as possible, Developer Edition might not be the ticket. As you can see already, carriers have started to push out kitkat earlier than motorola itself.

Titanoxide said:
Basically my questions are simple, I tried Googling quite extensively but cannot find a comprehensive answer.
Moto X Motomaker vs the Moto X Developer Edition pro and cons...
Here is what I think I know
Motomaker (MM from this point forward) is how you make it, has 16 and 32gb models and comes with a locked bootloader that must be unlocked to flash a ROM or change the fancy things like battery icons and the framework mods. Must wait for verizon to push updates to you at their own rate.. let me know if i'm wrong..
Developer Edition (DE from this for forward) is only 2 tone black and white and only available in 32gb. Bootloader is unlocked stock, can flash roms, change framework, custom apps, mod and tethering, android updates available whenever Google releases them or just come to XDA and find a leak.
I'm wondering if getting the DE is going to be worth the cost and if i comes BLANK with no Verizon bloat on-board. can i still use active notification and camera gesture etc if i flash a ROM?
I understand that the idea flashing a ROM is to get as close as humanly possible to stock android which it already is.
I'm going to be purchasing tomorrow so if you are all out there a timely response would be awesome!
On a side note I'm getting this phone to replace an S4 thats limping along with Safestrap and a Nexus Launcher.
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I'm in the same boat. I think the idea of the Moto X is great especially since it's getting the updates in a timely manner. I wonder though if the Developer Edition would be any different. Just because it's a Developer Edition doesn't mean it's a Google Play Edition meaning it will probably only receive the update when the Moto Maker X gets an update. That being the case (if I'm correct). Should I purchase the Developer Edition over the Motor Maker X. The only thing I would need to do is wifi tether since I am still on unlimited data and use it daily.

I have the Verizon Dev edition, and the only reason why I got it was so that I can unlock it and root it. With Dev editions you can only get white. If you want to unlock and root and are on AT&T or Verizon, then get the Dev edition, otherwise just get the Moto Maker edition.

chuda.pati09 said:
I have the Verizon Dev edition, and the only reason why I got it was so that I can unlock it and root it. With Dev editions you can only get white. If you want to unlock and root and are on AT&T or Verizon, then get the Dev edition, otherwise just get the Moto Maker edition.
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What have you done with your Dev Edition Moto X that you couldn't have done with the Moto Maker Version? And I'm asking what have you done, not what you plan on doing. Given the opportunity to do it all over again would you get the Dev Edition again or would you get a Moto Maker version?

Got the Dev edition and have not even unlocked the bootloader. Its that good . was thinking about it to install viper audio mod but have not yet
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bigmook said:
Got the Dev edition and have not even unlocked the bootloader. Its that good . was thinking about it to install viper audio mod but have not yet
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LoL. Makes it even harder to decide if I want the Dev Edition or the Moto Maker personalized one tomorrow morning.

pablomoca said:
What have you done with your Dev Edition Moto X that you couldn't have done with the Moto Maker Version? And I'm asking what have you done, not what you plan on doing. Given the opportunity to do it all over again would you get the Dev Edition again or would you get a Moto Maker version?
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I have unlocked and rooted my phone, I have installed Xposed and Gravity Box, and Greenify. I also plan on changing the bootloader, but have not found one I liked.
I believe you can root the Moto X without unlocking the bootloader, but from what I understand it is a headache when OTAs come through and there are chances of it bricking the phone. Since I was able to unlock the bootloader, I was able to flash TWRP and flash SU. And I don't have to worry about OTAs screwing up my phone.
But I need to stress this, do not spend the extra money on Dev edition if you are not on Verizon or AT&T, the Moto Xs from Motomaker can be unlocked.
The only added bonus the Dev edition brings is that unlocking it does not void the warranty which is nice because there can be cases which arise when it is a manufacture defect which the warranty would cover and it is nice to have that protection. But if you unlock a non Dev edition, it will void the warranty.

I personally would go with the Dev edition. There is always bound to be something I want to do to it. Plus future proofing
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bigmook said:
Got the Dev edition and have not even unlocked the bootloader. Its that good . was thinking about it to install viper audio mod but have not yet
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I did not unlock the bootloader until last week, which is also when I finally got time to unlock it and root the phone. But the change in warranty policy was a nice push.
I recommend unlocking and rooting your phone, I really missed Greenify and Titanium Backup. It might be a placebo effect or being on break last week I didn't use the phone as I normally do, but Greenify really helped the battery life. I went almost 22 hrs and about 2 hrs of screen time with no recharge couple times, using (Snapchat, Chrome, Reddit News, SMS, Hangouts, Phone, Plume, Maps, CBS Sports) heavily. Hopefully when I go back to normal usage this occurs again.

I should have been thinking about this a lot sooner than tonight. I'm leaning towards the Moto Maker edition for the obvious reasons of the color options. All I need is root the main thing I care about is tethering. And if I'm not mistaken there are apps on the market that will allow me to do that without root. I currently have a rooted Verizon Galaxy Note 3 and the only thing I use root for is tethering.

I went for the developer edition. I think it is worth the money..
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What does the Dev edition offer that the retails does not?
1) a true custom recovery
2) no exploit needed for root
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Perhaps faster upgrade process, flagship product.. Investment in quality products...
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elpmet27 said:
Perhaps faster upgrade process, flagship product.. Investment in quality products...
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Your post doesn't add up...
" Perhaps faster upgrade process" - nope. Same for everyone. I believe motomaker version got it first...
"flagship product" - Motomaker is advertised, Dev edition is not known to all.
"Investment in quality products" - they are both the same phone.
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I'm planning to buy the Moto X today. I live in Asia/Middle East. Will the T-Mobile Off contract version work? Because i want to customize my phone through moto maker. I know LTE most likely most wont work, but my main concern is will it detect any sim and 3g data should work. Thanks for the help in advance.

varun.gid said:
I'm planning to buy the Moto X today. I live in Asia/Middle East. Will the T-Mobile Off contract version work? Because i want to customize my phone through moto maker. I know LTE most likely most wont work, but my main concern is will it detect any sim and 3g data should work. Thanks for the help in advance.
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yes t-mobile is sim unlocked and 3g should work.

Developer Edition worth the extra $$

So before the latest news about google selling moto,....... don't get me started here I ordered a dev edition for $379.
Anyway thoughts on if it is worth the $125 dollar difference in cost ( price of new dev edition - selling price my old x)
Worth the cost? I am rooted now on my X but thinking the dev ed was (before the sale of moto) more future proof?
Maybe now the unlocked boot loader is more important because of the sale?
Thoughts???

In short, the developer edition is unrestricted in the fact once you've unlocked the bootloader, you can flash any rom that's available. It's technically "future proof" in the sense that as long as developers are making roms, it will continue to get the latest AOSP updates, or in the case of the Eclipse rom, it is AOSP while retaining stock features. I don't think you made a mistake in getting the developer edition, I made a mistake getting the moto maker X and I'm kicking myself because now that Google sold Moto to Lenovo, it's possible we won't see the updates that Moto was pushing so fast. I think as long as the software team at Moto stay in place, though, and Lenovo doesn't touch what the X and the G are all about, we ultimately will see the same basic process in terms of updates and the way the X and G are almost AOSP. Dev edition really isn't more expensive, the 32GB MM is the same price as a Dev edition, which has the same 32GB of space. Only difference is you're getting an open device instead of one that is closed to modification.
rweddy1 said:
So before the latest news about google selling moto,....... don't get me started here I ordered a dev edition for $379.
Anyway thoughts on if it is worth the $125 dollar difference in cost ( price of new dev edition - selling price my old x)
Worth the cost? I am rooted now on my X but thinking the dev ed was (before the sale of moto) more future proof?
Maybe now the unlocked boot loader is more important because of the sale?
Thoughts???
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balleron24z said:
In short, the developer edition is unrestricted in the fact once you've unlocked the bootloader, you can flash any rom that's available. It's technically "future proof" in the sense that as long as developers are making roms, it will continue to get the latest AOSP updates, or in the case of the Eclipse rom, it is AOSP while retaining stock features. I don't think you made a mistake in getting the developer edition, I made a mistake getting the moto maker X and I'm kicking myself because now that Google sold Moto to Lenovo, it's possible we won't see the updates that Moto was pushing so fast. I think as long as the software team at Moto stay in place, though, and Lenovo doesn't touch what the X and the G are all about, we ultimately will see the same basic process in terms of updates and the way the X and G are almost AOSP. Dev edition really isn't more expensive, the 32GB MM is the same price as a Dev edition, which has the same 32GB of space. Only difference is you're getting an open device instead of one that is closed to modification.
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Not trying to start a flame war, but by the time Lenovo takes over, your X will be on your shelf and you'll be rocking a new phone anyway. All this panic is getting old. This deal has to go through all sorts of approvals will probably take a year or more before it takes shape. Plus, it's not like Lenovo bought Moto to totally dismantle it. They didn't become the dominant force in the PC world by making stupid decisions. Moto has huge brand name recognition in the US and they are currently making great strides with the X and G.
I actually think this will be a huge success for Moto. Also remember Moto has pushed a bunch of apps to the play store making updates Super easy.
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rweddy1 said:
So before the latest news about google selling moto,....... don't get me started here I ordered a dev edition for $379.
Anyway thoughts on if it is worth the $125 dollar difference in cost ( price of new dev edition - selling price my old x)
Worth the cost? I am rooted now on my X but thinking the dev ed was (before the sale of moto) more future proof?
Maybe now the unlocked boot loader is more important because of the sale?
Thoughts???
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Isn't there also a difference in the frequency bands between the Dev edition and regular unlocked model? I'm interested in the Dev edition but if I'm not mistaking its missing the 1700 band for 3g. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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balleron24z said:
In short, the developer edition is unrestricted in the fact once you've unlocked the bootloader, you can flash any rom that's available. It's technically "future proof" in the sense that as long as developers are making roms, it will continue to get the latest AOSP updates, or in the case of the Eclipse rom, it is AOSP while retaining stock features. I don't think you made a mistake in getting the developer edition, I made a mistake getting the moto maker X and I'm kicking myself because now that Google sold Moto to Lenovo, it's possible we won't see the updates that Moto was pushing so fast. I think as long as the software team at Moto stay in place, though, and Lenovo doesn't touch what the X and the G are all about, we ultimately will see the same basic process in terms of updates and the way the X and G are almost AOSP. Dev edition really isn't more expensive, the 32GB MM is the same price as a Dev edition, which has the same 32GB of space. Only difference is you're getting an open device instead of one that is closed to modification.
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Great points. I loved Eclipse ROM on my G. Nexus, have to look into that once I get the Dev Edition.

It'd be good to look at the specs on the model you plan on getting, because there's a Dev edition for CDMA and for GSM, and different model numbers for them. But I believe you're right as well.
Henrock11 said:
Isn't there also a difference in the frequency bands between the Dev edition and regular unlocked model? I'm interested in the Dev edition but if I'm not mistaking its missing the 1700 band for 3g. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I can partially agree, Schaweet. I think that as long as the reigns are with Moto, then everything will stay great as is. Maybe even better, since Lenovo does have great products presently. Love their laptops/desktops. I'm just afraid that everything the Moto X and G are could be intruded upon by the software team at Lenovo, meaning the nice AOSP-type OS that Moto use might get a lot of unwanted modifications. I think that's the bigger concern, not how Moto will be as a company, but how their products will be influenced.
Schaweet said:
Not trying to start a flame war, but by the time Lenovo takes over, your X will be on your shelf and you'll be rocking a new phone anyway. All this panic is getting old. This deal has to go through all sorts of approvals will probably take a year or more before it takes shape. Plus, it's not like Lenovo bought Moto to totally dismantle it. They didn't become the dominant force in the PC world by making stupid decisions. Moto has huge brand name recognition in the US and they are currently making great strides with the X and G.
I actually think this will be a huge success for Moto. Also remember Moto has pushed a bunch of apps to the play store making updates Super easy.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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Henrock11 said:
Isn't there also a difference in the frequency bands between the Dev edition and regular unlocked model? I'm interested in the Dev edition but if I'm not mistaking its missing the 1700 band for 3g. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I am not sure, I referring to the Verizon Edition, GSM might be different.

Henrock11 said:
Isn't there also a difference in the frequency bands between the Dev edition and regular unlocked model? I'm interested in the Dev edition but if I'm not mistaking its missing the 1700 band for 3g. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Here you go.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X
That shows the frequencies per model.
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balleron24z said:
It'd be good to look at the specs on the model you plan on getting, because there's a Dev edition for CDMA and for GSM, and different model numbers for them. But I believe you're right as well.
I can partially agree, Schaweet. I think that as long as the reigns are with Moto, then everything will stay great as is. Maybe even better, since Lenovo does have great products presently. Love their laptops/desktops. I'm just afraid that everything the Moto X and G are could be intruded upon by the software team at Lenovo, meaning the nice AOSP-type OS that Moto use might get a lot of unwanted modifications. I think that's the bigger concern, not how Moto will be as a company, but how their products will be influenced.
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Fair enough. It's a total guess about what they will do with the UI. I can say with a high degree of confidence that they won't update the X and add their UI. Going forward though, you never know. I'd hope they'd just push and market Motos existing strategy, but that's my consumer side hope. I would think the near AOSP UI that Moto has could be enough to provide the product difference they want to separate them from everyone else without some silly skin like TV.
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[Q] AT&T Moto X Updates On Straight Talk

Perhaps this is a stupid question, and if so I have no doubt at last a few people will let me know, but I purchased an AT&T Moto X which I used on Go Phone for 6 months, after which I unlocked and switched to Straight Talk. My question is, with AT&T now doing soak tests on 4.4.4, will I still get the update since I'm no longer an AT&T customer? And if not, how can I update when it's available? Thanks guys.

Yes, you will get AT&T updates, as long as AT&T releases them. But I am pretty sure AT&T will not release any updates for Moto X.

AT&T doesn't actually release or distribute the update, it's all done by Motorola. AT&T only has to approve of the build before Motorola can release it. The update comes straight from Motorola servers, and whether you're using AT&T or not is irrelevant when it is distributed.

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[Q] Pure Edition Moto X 2014 what does it mean??

Hello Everybody!
I'd like to know what does mean Pure Edition Moto X 2014? Motorola consider to update to Android L since it has been out?
If not, how many time it get to update the phone??

lsspadilla said:
Hello Everybody!
I'd like to know what does mean Pure Edition Moto X 2014? Motorola consider to update to Android L since it has been out?
If not, how many time it get to update the phone??
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I got this from @hungryoungman
"Confirmed - Following phones to be updated to Android L on the same day. Samsung: GS5, Note 3&4 ; HTC One M8; Moto X 1&2; Nexus 4,5,7,9."

Pure Edition means it is not tied to a specific carrier. Updates will come direct from motorola.

Pure Ver. Price it different?

tazmako said:
Pure Ver. Price it different?
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the pure version is unlocked and not tied to a carrier. since it's not subsidized, you have to pay the full price for it.
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Thank you.

So then will be a "convert to pure edition" utility... For software updates more efficiently?

What?!?!? No, you have to purchase the pure edition at full price. You don't update to pure edition.

It means it haven't been violated and perverted by AT&T and Verizon.
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So then will be a "convert to pure edition" utility... For software updates more efficiently?
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I don't think it's that easy with the Moto X, probably end up with a brick, but you're free to try.

[Q] Any Chance for At&t version users?

Hi,
I just bought the Moto X from At&t (contract). I hear that the PE is already getting Android 5.0 Updates! Is there any chance the I can get those updates? I do not mind purchasing unlock codes etc.
If not, any idea how long At&t will take to infect the 5.0 update with their stuff and send out the updates? Or should I just return this and purchase the Pure Edition.
Thanks

ayushag96 said:
Hi,
I just bought the Moto X from At&t (contract). I hear that the PE is already getting Android 5.0 Updates! Is there any chance the I can get those updates? I do not mind purchasing unlock codes etc.
If not, any idea how long At&t will take to infect the 5.0 update with their stuff and send out the updates? Or should I just return this and purchase the Pure Edition.
Thanks
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Supposibly the XT1095 (Pure) is getting a soak test from what I am reading. If you have the money I would recomend getting that over the AT&T version. I currently have the XT1095 and using it on AT&T.
Either are great phones, however with the AT&T version your locked to AT&T and locked boot loader.

If money isn't an issue, return it and get the Pure Edition. No bloatware, and it has an unlockable bootloader and is very easily rooted. Otherwise, just sit tight, your X will get official lollipop VERY soon.
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