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Initial setup/best practices

Soon-to-be, first-time, smart phone owner here.
My new Revolution is on the way and I have a few questions for current owners, rooters and rom installers.
I want to remove bloatware and Bing, improve battery life, allow tethering, and unlock the FM radio. Should I wait for Gingerbread? Root only? Install a custom Rom?
I know that the rooting process and roms improve over time and would also appreciate some input to the most current root/rom process.
Thanks,
J.

I would root right away, downgrade if necessary. RevoIt rom is incredibly fast and has bloat removed. We don't know how long until gingerbread so not worth waiting.
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Sorry for double post. Best way to root is if your on VS910V6 is to downgrade (there is a tutorial on here somewhere) and use superoneclick 1.7 ragethecage. If VS910ZV4 is on your phone just use superoneclick regular root. Then you have to put on revotoolkit to put on cwm. There you can flash a new rom
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jackpot08 said:
Sorry for double post. Best way to root is if your on VS910V6 is to downgrade (there is a tutorial on here somewhere) and use superoneclick 1.7 ragethecage. If VS910ZV4 is on your phone just use superoneclick regular root. Then you have to put on revotoolkit to put on cwm. There you can flash a new rom
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Where do I find instructions for S1C 1.7? I went to the "development" forum and the S1C instructions say "confirmed not working, guide removed till update is available."

jyossarian said:
Where do I find instructions for S1C 1.7? I went to the "development" forum and the S1C instructions say "confirmed not working, guide removed till update is available."
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Just extract the files, run the program, plug phone in and select internet mode with USB debugging enabled, select the "rageagainstthecage" exploit in the right hand side drop-down menu and click ROOT.
If it hangs (gets stuck) try checking and unchecking USB Debugging while the program is running and the phone is plugged in.

Thanks for the help so far. I have successfully downgraded and rooted.
I apologize in advance because I know all of these questions have been asked before but there are sooo many guides and youtube videos and forums. Some things might apply to the Revo and some might not.
Anyway...
1. I plan on installing revolt 1.5 but first think I should backup and save a copy of the Verizon Rom to be able to go back if all hell breaks loose or they update to GB. If I backup in clockworkmod, where does the backup go on the sd card? What is the name of the file? Should I take it off the sd and or put it on a computer for safe keeping?
2. Does "rom manger" work for the revolution? I asked me for phone model but didn't have the revo listed.
3. I installed Ti backup but already have the rom backed up. Is Ti backup used solely to backup apps?
4. The install instructions for revolt 1.5 say "make sure 4g is enabled," how do I do that?
5. The instructions do not say to wipe the cache. Is that no longer a required step?
6. Is there a "file manager" for accessing the sd card?
Too many ?'s, but thanks.
J.

In the same boat, sort of.
Was wondering if the sixaxis app for connecting a playstation controller to our phone works. was gonna root my phone this weekend and if this app works with our phone maybe ill stay up a little later tomorrow to see if i can get it working lol.
Thanks for any reply
ANdy

jyossarian said:
Thanks for the help so far. I have successfully downgraded and rooted.
I apologize in advance because I know all of these questions have been asked before but there are sooo many guides and youtube videos and forums. Some things might apply to the Revo and some might not.
Anyway...
1. I plan on installing revolt 1.5 but first think I should backup and save a copy of the Verizon Rom to be able to go back if all hell breaks loose or they update to GB. If I backup in clockworkmod, where does the backup go on the sd card? What is the name of the file? Should I take it off the sd and or put it on a computer for safe keeping?
2. Does "rom manger" work for the revolution? I asked me for phone model but didn't have the revo listed.
3. I installed Ti backup but already have the rom backed up. Is Ti backup used solely to backup apps?
4. The install instructions for revolt 1.5 say "make sure 4g is enabled," how do I do that?
5. The instructions do not say to wipe the cache. Is that no longer a required step?
6. Is there a "file manager" for accessing the sd card?
Too many ?'s, but thanks.
J.
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1. I'm pretty sure backups go to external/clockworkmod/backups
But you don't need to make backups for this since you can always flash the rooted stock ROM.
2.ROM manager does not work.
3.titanium backs up only apps and there data (I like mybackup pro more)
4. If you didn't change any settings 4g you'll be fine.
5. Always wipe cache and dalvik cache. May take time to boot up but its.normal .
6. Es file explorer or root explorer
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Rooting without wiping? OR how to back up app data

I've got a 6 month old OB which I want to root & install an ICS rom but one thing I have not been able to find out:
Can I root it without wiping it first? I've heard plenty about Titanium Backup but that needs root access first.
Alternatively, what is the best way to backup all the apps & settings ahead of time?
I did a search and couldn't find clear answers to this, sorry if it has been asked before.

If you have Rooted phone, My Backup Pro is the best app to backup and install including Data with apk files
If you are not rooted, it can only backup apk, not data

sekhar13515 said:
If you have Rooted phone, My Backup Pro is the best app to backup and install including Data with apk files
If you are not rooted, it can only backup apk, not data
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I don't have a rooted phone. I'm trying to ask if there is a way to back up the data without rooting, or back it up before rooting.

teddygo said:
I don't have a rooted phone. I'm trying to ask if there is a way to back up the data without rooting, or back it up before rooting.
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If you aren't rooted you can't backup the data.

No backups without root accs
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Ok, no backups without root access. Any way to attain root access without wiping everything?
This isn't a deal breaker, but it'd be nice to retain what I can.

Risk of getting bootloop or non usable play store, which apps do you want to backup so badly?

Astro file manager my backup 30 days trial no root access
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backing up
teddygo said:
Ok, no backups without root access. Any way to attain root access without wiping everything?
This isn't a deal breaker, but it'd be nice to retain what I can.
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Rooting a phone you don't have to wipe anything. After getting a root you'll be able to make a real backup. Then you can wipe and flash any rom. Also you can flash a fresh rom without root, so you can "revert" rooting.
Good programs to backup your data:
- CWM - making a nandroid backup - best method to backup all data on your phone
- Titanium backup - very functional, professional program
- Go Backup - to store contacts, smses, call-logs and installed programs

IF you are on 2.2 you don't need to wipe anything.
If you are on 2.3.4 you need to wipe everything.
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jacor2 said:
Rooting a phone you don't have to wipe anything. After getting a root you'll be able to make a real backup. Then you can wipe and flash any rom. Also you can flash a fresh rom without root, so you can "revert" rooting.
Good programs to backup your data:
- CWM - making a nandroid backup - best method to backup all data on your phone
- Titanium backup - very functional, professional program
- Go Backup - to store contacts, smses, call-logs and installed programs
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Can't use CWM if the phone hasn't been rooted and is on GB with the Current CWM injection method because it wipes all Phone on board memory.
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can i just hijack this a bit...
looking at rooting my optiumus black but basically it's my work phone which currently has a load of text messages/emails/contacts I could do with keeping, is there anyway to keep this on the phone??
android version is 2.2.2

the_r_sole said:
can i just hijack this a bit...
looking at rooting my optiumus black but basically it's my work phone which currently has a load of text messages/emails/contacts I could do with keeping, is there anyway to keep this on the phone??
android version is 2.2.2
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You can root 2.2.2 without losing anything. To be safe : Make backups of your contacts,hopefully your email should still be on the email server and if you really need those text messages then you can write them down. If it is really really important to keep the information rather not risk it.
Back To The Original Topic : If you want to just backup apps (not other stuff) then ES File Explorer can do that for you.

[Q] Can i root and restore in "this" way?

Ok, i'm a newbie with techs, really need some help here, so now
Goal :
Install cyanogenmod 10.1 on xperia z c6603
That means i have to unlock bootloader in order to root.
Unlocking bootloader means wiping all data.
I have to use titanium backup pro to backup all apps and data.
Using titanium backup means root -.-
And there's a way to root my device without unlocking the bootloader beforehand, so..
1. Root my device with locked bootloader
2. Using titanium backup to backup all files and transfer it into another SD card
3. Unlock the bootloader once backup is completed (all data wiped)
4. Flash the cyanogenmod rom
5. Restore using titanium backup from the SD card to the phone
Again, i'm a newbie, is these steps gonna work, or there's a lot of error and would fail? Is there any other way? need some help here~

Don't forget to BackUp TA DRM keys for futher stock installations.
1. Root my device with locked bootloader
2. Using titanium backup to backup all files and transfer it into another SD card
3. BackUp TA
4. Unlock the bootloader once backup is completed (all data wiped)
5. Flash the cyanogenmod rom
6. Restore using titanium backup from the SD card to the phone

eryen said:
Don't forget to BackUp TA DRM keys for futher stock installations.
1. Root my device with locked bootloader
2. Using titanium backup to backup all files and transfer it into another SD card
3. BackUp TA
4. Unlock the bootloader once backup is completed (all data wiped)
5. Flash the cyanogenmod rom
6. Restore using titanium backup from the SD card to the phone
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my current firmware is 253, is there anyway to downgrade to 350 or 434 without wipe all data or getting bootloop like the nfc thing, which wasted me 3 hours to get back on the working 253 via flashtool ==

Jambu95 said:
my current firmware is 253, is there anyway to downgrade to 350 or 434 without wipe all data or getting bootloop like the nfc thing, which wasted me 3 hours to get back on the working 253 via flashtool ==
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Untick, (un-check) the wipe sections in flashtool will prevent wipes. Downgrade with flash tool and make sure none of the wipe bits, (at the top right of the main screen) are ticked and you should save all your data.
I used NUT's ROM from this thread to get onto .253 from .453.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2283673.
Do check out the section on backing up your TA as eryen has said, just in-case you want to go back to pure stock. Read the thread below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598.
This one came first. It's where the development for the thread above happened.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2234627&page=20
Treat the above threads with respect, you are dealing with critical things here. Full bricks are possible.
I know this sounds over the top too, but when you do flash CM, I would recommend you read the entire thread for CM. It's over 100 pages but I consider it all to be essential knowledge.
CM 10.1 isn't finished yet, it still has a couple of little bugs, but it is pretty damn good. I will play with other ROM's again, but CM will as ever be my default.
Good luck.

charlodroid said:
Untick, (un-check) the wipe sections in flashtool will prevent wipes. Downgrade with flash tool and make sure none of the wipe bits, (at the top right of the main screen) are ticked and you should save all your data.
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Downgrading to 434 without wiping data will end in a loop with updating NFC drivers.
Backup your data with Backup & Restore by Sony. And downgrade with wiping all.
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Also, don't forget to flash CM10.1 kernel in fastboot mode before flashing the ROM.
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he's right
charlodroid said:
Untick, (un-check) the wipe sections in flashtool will prevent wipes. Downgrade with flash tool and make sure none of the wipe bits, (at the top right of the main screen) are ticked and you should save all your data.
I used NUT's ROM from this thread to get onto .253 from .453.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2283673.
Do check out the section on backing up your TA as eryen has said, just in-case you want to go back to pure stock. Read the thread below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598.
This one came first. It's where the development for the thread above happened.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2234627&page=20
Treat the above threads with respect, you are dealing with critical things here. Full bricks are possible.
I know this sounds over the top too, but when you do flash CM, I would recommend you read the entire thread for CM. It's over 100 pages but I consider it all to be essential knowledge.
CM 10.1 isn't finished yet, it still has a couple of little bugs, but it is pretty damn good. I will play with other ROM's again, but CM will as ever be my default.
Good luck.
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I used back TA after I unlocked, so im guessing its no use ?

HTC one unroot

hello i have searched all over the internet for a HTC One UK Three RUU, but couldnt find anything.
but i have found a nandroid backup on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2207874&nocache=1
however, i do not know how to use it
can somebody tell me step by step instructions on how to unroot using this backup please and thank you in advance

I just downloaded the nand backup to my pc, put onto my phone's sd at the root of it, then used Rom manager to flash it, after installing you will need to install the lost apps package found in the one android dev section, once done I did my own nand backup without root so I had my own backup
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lilvfr400boy said:
I just downloaded the nand backup to my pc, put onto my phone's sd at the root of it, then used Rom manager to flash it, after installing you will need to install the lost apps package found in the one android dev section, once done I did my own nand backup without root so I had my own backup
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can you find the thread for me, i cannot seem to find it

Hi, I am in the same boat here. No luck finding an RUU for three UK but have found the nandroid back up. If I use this back up will this unroot and get me back to how my phone was when purchased. As this is what I wish to achieve. Complete Noob. Switched from jailbreaking.

jiltedfat said:
Hi, I am in the same boat here. No luck finding an RUU for three UK but have found the nandroid back up. If I use this back up will this unroot and get me back to how my phone was when purchased. As this is what I wish to achieve. Complete Noob. Switched from jailbreaking.
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Doing a Nandroid backup should take away root as long as you don't install it through TWRP or CWM (they have an option when you go to reboot and it gets in the way)

crzykiller said:
Doing a Nandroid backup should take away root as long as you don't install it through TWRP or CWM (they have an option when you go to reboot and it gets in the way)
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Ok cool. Appreciate that. So how do I go about not installing through Cwm or twrp. Is that as described in the earlier posts? Also it mentions the lost apps package can you shed light on this for me too? All help appreciated greatly.

[Q] Safestrap and DynamicKat

Hey Guys,
I have been trying to install a custom rom for the first time with safestrap (never installed one without safestrap either as this is my first android phone). I chose DynamicKat but I've been having some problems. I tried to follow the directions in the DynamicKat thread but for some reason when I had to browse in safestrap to select the rom there were 2 dynamickat zip files. I know I only transferred one zip file to my sd card though. When I used my ES file explorer it also showed to files (one greyed out though) but the stock "my files app" only showed one. I picked one to install but it looked like I didn't have root access in it. Also, all my other apps (user and system apps) started reinstalling immidietly the same way as when I factory reset the phone. Is that supposed to happen? How do I get this rom properly installed? I ran a nandroid backup so at least I was able to restore to that. Anyway, any help will appreciated!

@ellie692. If you reply on the dynamic kat thread you will get good help from the dev that built the rom. I am running the same rom as well. I'm not sure why you would have two zips of the same rom, but the reason why the play store is reinstalling your previous apps is most likely because you have Google play set to sync and backup your apps. You can turn that off in the settings in Google play. As for root, you should have root, did you flash the supersu zip also at the same time that you flashed the rom, if not you need to. Then install root checker and you should show that you have root with that rom.
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dirtydodge said:
@ellie692. If you reply on the dynamic kat thread you will get good help from the dev that built the rom. I am running the same rom as well. I'm not sure why you would have two zips of the same rom, but the reason why the play store is reinstalling your previous apps is most likely because you have Google play set to sync and backup your apps. You can turn that off in the settings in Google play. As for root, you should have root, did you flash the supersu zip also at the same time that you flashed the rom, if not you need to. Then install root checker and you should show that you have root with that rom.
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The person can't post in the dev thread not enough posts with 4
"No soup for you!Come back one year!!"
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s5freak said:
The person can't post in the dev thread not enough posts with 4
"No soup for you!Come back one year!!"
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Oh I see. I didn't notice that.
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ellie692 said:
Hey Guys,
I have been trying to install a custom rom for the first time with safestrap (never installed one without safestrap either as this is my first android phone). I chose DynamicKat but I've been having some problems. I tried to follow the directions in the DynamicKat thread but for some reason when I had to browse in safestrap to select the rom there were 2 dynamickat zip files. I know I only transferred one zip file to my sd card though. When I used my ES file explorer it also showed to files (one greyed out though) but the stock "my files app" only showed one. I picked one to install but it looked like I didn't have root access in it. Also, all my other apps (user and system apps) started reinstalling immidietly the same way as when I factory reset the phone. Is that supposed to happen? How do I get this rom properly installed? I ran a nandroid backup so at least I was able to restore to that. Anyway, any help will appreciated!
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This thread has a lot of useful information and being you're new to android I would suggest doing much more reading before flashing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51438774
"No soup for you!Come back one year!!"
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dirtydodge said:
Oh I see. I didn't notice that.
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No problem but peeps gotta read read read before destroying a very expensive device. ??
"No soup for you!Come back one year!!"
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ellie692 said:
Hey Guys,
I have been trying to install a custom rom for the first time with safestrap (never installed one without safestrap either as this is my first android phone). I chose DynamicKat but I've been having some problems. I tried to follow the directions in the DynamicKat thread but for some reason when I had to browse in safestrap to select the rom there were 2 dynamickat zip files. I know I only transferred one zip file to my sd card though. When I used my ES file explorer it also showed to files (one greyed out though) but the stock "my files app" only showed one. I picked one to install but it looked like I didn't have root access in it. Also, all my other apps (user and system apps) started reinstalling immidietly the same way as when I factory reset the phone. Is that supposed to happen? How do I get this rom properly installed? I ran a nandroid backup so at least I was able to restore to that. Anyway, any help will find
First thing is delete both Rom zips. Next make sure you have SuperSU and busybox installed. Install Root checker to make sure you're rooted.
Go back to dynamic kat and download the Rom zip when finished transfer the zip to external sd card.
Open SafeStrap app and boot to SafeStrap recovery and under advanced wipe wipe everything BUT ex sd card after that go to install and it should show the Rom zip select that then swipe to install. If it says successful then hit reboot system...wait for phone to boot if might take 5 minutes...when it boots set up as you would normally do.
Please please please do a lot more reading in the threads especially the SafeStrap thread it will save you a TON of flaming and very rude comments. When in doubt read some more. Good luck????
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s5freak said:
First thing is delete both Rom zips. Next make sure you have SuperSU and busybox installed. Install Root checker to make sure you're rooted.
Go back to dynamic kat and download the Rom zip when finished transfer the zip to external sd card.
Open SafeStrap app and boot to SafeStrap recovery and under advanced wipe wipe everything BUT ex sd card after that go to install and it should show the Rom zip select that then swipe to install. If it says successful then hit reboot system...wait for phone to boot if might take 5 minutes...when it boots set up as you would normally do.
Please please please do a lot more reading in the threads especially the SafeStrap thread it will save you a TON of flaming and very rude comments. When in doubt read some more. Good luck????
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What he said, to make absolutely sure there isn't any error in data transfer, download the ROM *on* your phone (not download to PC and transfer); also make sure you follow all the steps outlined the in DynamicKat thread (for pre-req's to have installed prior to starting).
Also, make ABSOLUTELY sure that in SafeStrap you are loading DynamicKat into the stock ROM spot.
Updating apps on first boot is totally normal.
Again, as S5Freak stated, read read read read and when you are done reading all those threads, read some more. Read about different methods, different ROMs, crash recoveries, etc. Bricking your phone isn't worth the few hours(or days) saved by not reading.