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I am ready for a new phone, but would like to be done with Verizon once they take away my unlimited plan. I read a few posts where it is said that the cdma phones would work on T-Mobile, the carrier I will be going to next. Can anyone confirm or deny the ability to use on both networks?
Thanks
Yes a Verizon Moto X will work on T-Mobile as it is SIM unlocked and supports band 4 LTE. It should be noted that it doesn't support AWS 3G which is the main band T-Mobile uses for their 3G service. If you are in a refarmed market then they will also offer 3G service on the PCS band which the Verizon Moto X does support. Most major cities are refarmed so as long as you are okay with the risk of ending up on 2G more often then you would on a T-Mobile Moto X then you should be okay. From my understanding T-Mobile is working on having almost all of their 3G service on the PCS band in order to free up AWS spectrum for LTE so this issue should become less of an issue over time.
With kit Kat on my vzw x, when I put my T-Mobile Sim in, I must manually enter T-Mobile APN settings to get working data and SMS. I haven't tried MMS.
With 4.2.2 Roms (version that the phone came with plus camera ota) APN settings came down automatically.
I get h+ in refarmed area.
landale said:
Yes a Verizon Moto X will work on T-Mobile as it is SIM unlocked and supports band 4 LTE. It should be noted that it doesn't support AWS 3G which is the main band T-Mobile uses for their 3G service. If you are in a refarmed market then they will also offer 3G service on the PCS band which the Verizon Moto X does support. Most major cities are refarmed so as long as you are okay with the risk of ending up on 2G more often then you would on a T-Mobile Moto X then you should be okay. From my understanding T-Mobile is working on having almost all of their 3G service on the PCS band in order to free up AWS spectrum for LTE so this issue should become less of an issue over time.
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I thought the VZW Moto X only supported Band 13 LTE?
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I thought the VZW Moto X only supported Band 13 LTE?
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It supports both. I've confirmed this with a T-Mobile SIM card and is also stated on the Verizon dev page.
http://developer.verizon.com/content/vdc/en/verizon-devices/pages/mot_moto_x.html
landale said:
It supports both. I've confirmed this with a T-Mobile SIM card and is also stated on the Verizon dev page.
http://developer.verizon.com/content/vdc/en/verizon-devices/pages/mot_moto_x.html
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Wow, that's interesting. Also interesting that the top section specifically references Band 4, yet the actual spectrum is not called out in the technical section below.
Thanks for the info. This is a surprisingly network-flexible phone... not used to that with Verizon phones.
binary visions said:
Wow, that's interesting. Also interesting that the top section specifically references Band 4, yet the actual spectrum is not called out in the technical section below.
Thanks for the info. This is a surprisingly network-flexible phone... not used to that with Verizon phones.
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Most of the upper level Verizon LTE phones released this year save the HTC One support band 4 either out of the box or will get a software update for it. Verizon is supposed to be making a big push over the next few months to add band 4 LTE service which is much needed here in Houston as our band 13 LTE service is so overloaded that sometimes I am lucky to top 3-4mbps.
Quite possible that Band 4 support was added in one of the updates that was pushed out, so most documentation wouldn't reference it. Best place to check would be the FCC docs when they tested the phone.
fyrmd said:
I am ready for a new phone, but would like to be done with Verizon once they take away my unlimited plan. I read a few posts where it is said that the cdma phones would work on T-Mobile, the carrier I will be going to next. Can anyone confirm or deny the ability to use on both networks?
Thanks
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I put a T-mobile SIM in my stock 16GB Verizon Moto x. Here is what works and doesn't.
First off, 4G works! in the South Jersey area and it is Blistering fast, I have exceeded 40MB speed test downloads twice, Several in the high 30s and I am avg in mid 20s. Uploads are averaging 20+/- . Compared to Verizon this is like comparing Fios to 1999 era dial up. the best I ever got on Verizon 4G was 14 download but average between 4 and 9 !
The Network notification switches a lot between 4G, "H" mode, whatever that is, just bars and another which I didn't catch quick enough to read ?
Battery has been amazing compared to my galaxy Nexus, I got 7.5 hours of Actual "Screen on Time" which included some GPS use and an hour of music streaming total phone up time was 34+ hours. How long it will perform like this is anyone's guess, today i got about 6.5 of Screen on time. I hope this inst a trend
Now for the bad news - Using it as a Phone. Incoming calls are fine but, making outgoing is a Pain in the A$$.
When I dial a number, (which is a hassle on this KitKat dialer) it often goes to the home screen or back to the dialer. The Call Fails. I am not sure if my dialer is buggy or its a compatibility problem. the KitKat Dialer on the Moto X is an exorcise in futility. Google are you listening? Why reinvent the wheel. All I want in my Dialer is a Number Pad! and a phone book.
When I Open dialer I see Recent calls up top, the whole middle section says all contacts and is otherwise blank, the bottom has the number pad icon, History and settings dots.
Clicking the number pad icon enlarges the bottom section, which then goes all white and removes the three icons. I have to then click the back arrow and re-click the number pad icon to bring it up the actual dialer. .
At this time I can dial. and then the call always fails on the first attempt. Sometimes it takes several attempts to go through.
When I click send on the dialer the 4G disappears and I am left with just the bars. they come back when call is done but sometimes take a few minutes to do so.
If you Kill the dialer app or swipe it away, coming back to it you will have the same issues when trying to get the number pad (two attempts) if you dont, the number pad will open on first attempt. but the calls will still fail on the first try.
I also cant use the internet when in a call, whether WiFi is on or off. Is this a T-mobile problem? I could use the net in Verizon when in a call when on 4G or WiFi
The Data is set to global mode but I have tried both the other settings. On boot up I get a warning saying the SIM is not recognized which I just swipe away.
I am also having this problem. After making a call, the music player and the phones "volume" aspects cease to work., Meaning, I get no sound out of the phone, Music, notifications alarms etc.. This happens almost every time and the only fix is a reboot
I disabled all Verizon Bloat and a lot of Moto Bloat as well This could be causing some of the bugs? But i have tested several different configurations all with the same outcomes.
Hope this helps and puts an end to the - Will it work or not questions. There seem to be a lot of Net Know it all's that flat out say a Verizon Moto x wont work with a T-Mobile SIM or some other undocumented "fact"
Would a verizon sim work in a sprint or T-moblie phone?
I popped in my T-Mobile Sim card and I only get hspa+. I definitely live in a LTE area. Hmm...
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im from india i got moto x navy blue customized but device wont get signal dont know whats wrong tried to reset still no luck even getting the signal but instantly disappears and showing emergency only
So, I have a Verizon Moto X and popped in my T-Mobile sim card today and LTE popped up after a few seconds (I live in Boston). My LTE speeds on the internet worked instantly. However, I tried to send a text message and it wouldn't send. Not sure if I need to do anything else to get voice/text to work fine. Any ideas?
if you're on 4.4, you need to manually add APNs
Kittiesoncrack said:
if you're on 4.4, you need to manually add APNs
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I just popped in the T-Mo sim card again and now text works no issues and calls. Not sure what happened, but oh well.
Now, is there any difference in me using a Verizon Moto X on T-Mobile compared to an AT&T Moto X on T-Mobile. I have both and have been using an AT&T one, but I am just curious.
NickB2008 said:
Do you know where I can find the APNs to fix this? I know how to access it on the phone, but just so I can find it.
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http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2090 <- That should have everything you need as far as the APN goes.
Guys I have customized Moto x but the gsm doesn't works not Able to connect network even im added apns what could be issue
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I fixed my issue. I ported my number into a Verizon unlimited data plan. Problem solved.
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Any help guys how to unlock gsm I can see gsm sim getting signal and immediately loosing and showing emergency only what could be issue
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kae9797 said:
Would a verizon sim work in a sprint or T-moblie phone?
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no because the sprint x is sim locked and doesn't use the same cdma setup, and the t-mobile doesn't support cdma/evdo that verizon uses for voice and 3g data
Hi,
Currently with Big Red but will switch to "someone" once contract is up 3rd qtr next year. Most probably because of the the price and I am sick of VZ dropping back to 3G most of the time where I am.
If I get a Verizon Moto X can I later use that on TMobile. And/rather, a Verizon Moto X can be used on which carriers - all or none
much appreciated.
If it's a developer edition then "I believe" you could use it on sprint. T-Mobile is a GSM carrier and since the only option on the CDMA phones is for global GSM for international travel that you will likely not get it to work. They don't have the radios in it to work on T-mobile. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
themogul said:
Hi,
Currently with Big Red but will switch to "someone" once contract is up 3rd qtr next year. Most probably because of the the price and I am sick of VZ dropping back to 3G most of the time where I am.
If I get a Verizon Moto X can I later use that on TMobile. And/rather, a Verizon Moto X can be used on which carriers - all or none
much appreciated.
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This has been covered before yes it will. Verizon moto x is ( might be wrong) the only phone that is Sim unlocked besides T-Mobile and gsm developer edition. Tmobile Sim should work just fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2442735
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mawells787 said:
This has been covered before yes it will. Verizon moto x is ( might be wrong) the only phone that is Sim unlocked besides T-Mobile and gsm developer edition. Tmobile Sim should work just fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2442735
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I put a prepaid T-Mobile sim into my Dev Verizon Moto X, and I get good LTE speeds.
folsom68 said:
I put a prepaid T-Mobile sim into my Dev Verizon Moto X, and I get good LTE speeds.
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Just seconding that I put a T-Mobile SIM in to my VZW dev edition Moto X (4.4), and it was SIM unlocked as expected, but also had good LTE signal, indicating that Band 4 is definitely enabled on these phones, contrary to published specs. Good news!
Can you make phone calls and send text messages with a T-Mo SIM in a VZW phone? Seems as if a CDMA phone would not work on a GSM network for calls and texts.
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scottjb said:
Can you make phone calls and send text messages with a T-Mo SIM in a VZW phone? Seems as if a CDMA phone would not work on a GSM network for calls and texts.
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Yes. I haven't done it with the Moto X yet, but I did it without issue previously with both the Verizon S4 and LG G2. It's part of an FCC agreement when Verizon got LTE. It's basically GSM unlocked. Data, text, and calls work.
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scottjb said:
Can you make phone calls and send text messages with a T-Mo SIM in a VZW phone? Seems as if a CDMA phone would not work on a GSM network for calls and texts.
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Most Verizon LTE phones have a GSM radio and work on AT&T and Tmobile
I made a call to verify it works, and I received text messages from T-Mobile.
I also didn't have to add APNs, it seemed to figure them out.
Sprint won't work. Cause most of the CDMA bands and LTE bands are different.
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But I'm pretty sure T-Mobile will cause it is Sim unlocked
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supr2nr said:
If it's a developer edition then "I believe" you could use it on sprint. T-Mobile is a GSM carrier and since the only option on the CDMA phones is for global GSM for international travel that you will likely not get it to work. They don't have the radios in it to work on T-mobile. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Yes, you are wrong. It does work with either a "retail" Verizon phone, or developer edition.
The big misconception is that since Verizon uses CDMA for voice and sms, that their phones only work on CDMA. This is NOT True.
Because Verizon's 4G LTE phones are "global" they support the same GSM/GPRS/Edge bands as ATT and T-Mobile for voice and data so they can be used globally on GSM carrier networks. Another little plus is that due to the FCC rules around their 700Mhz spectrum, they are SIM unlocked, so they happen to work with ATT and T-Mobile sim inserted. Since ATT uses the same bands for HSPA and HSPA+ as they do for EDGE, you can get HSPA speeds. In areas where T-Mobile's "network modernization" has refarmed their 1900Mhz edge to HSPA, you'll get HSPA speeds. In Tmobile areas that HSPA is still over AWS, you'll fall back to Edge when trying Verizon branded devices.
Using both developer and "retail" variants of the Verizon Moto X, I have inserted my T-Mobile SIM and had it work after setting the phones to "global". I've done the same with my iPhone 5, iPhone 5S, Blackberry Z10, Q10, Nokia Lumia 928, and Samsung Galaxy S4 and Note 3. Some of the phones, like the Z10 and 928 only gave me EDGE speeds the last time I tried them. The X and S4 have given me HSPA. T-Mobile recently rolled out LTE here, as putting the T-Mo Sim in my VZW iPhne 5S last week gave me T-Mo LTE for the first time. When i get time I'll have to go back and test my other devices again to see what they do.
With recent firmware updates on my X, note 3 and Galaxy S4, I have had to manually enter T-Mobile APN settings to get them to work.
scottjb said:
Can you make phone calls and send text messages with a T-Mo SIM in a VZW phone? Seems as if a CDMA phone would not work on a GSM network for calls and texts.
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Yes it does work as long as the APN settings come down automatically to your phone, or you manually enter the correct APN settings.
On a side note... some have asked if you can do the same with a Sprint phone (since they are cdma based too). The answer is..I don't know for sure, but it really depends. I haven't looked into the sprint phones to know their "global roaming" capabilities, and what radios and frequencies their devices support. I guess as long as their phones support the quad band GSM frequencies and are (or can be) SIM Unlocked, then you can do the same with Sprint phones to get at least Edge speeds. HSPA and LTE would again depend on the frequencies the sprint phones support, and the target carrier network uses.
Thank you everybody!!!
This is excellent info and more importantly very good details. I am very grateful...
Time to the Moto X with orange accents now
themogul said:
Hi,
Currently with Big Red but will switch to "someone" once contract is up 3rd qtr next year. Most probably because of the the price and I am sick of VZ dropping back to 3G most of the time where I am.
If I get a Verizon Moto X can I later use that on TMobile. And/rather, a Verizon Moto X can be used on which carriers - all or none
much appreciated.
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I put a T-mobile SIM in my stock 16GB Verizon Moto x. Here is what works and doesn't.
First off, 4G works! in the South Jersey area and it is Blistering fast, I have exceeded 40MB speed test downloads twice, Several in the high 30s and I am avg in mid 20s. Uploads are averaging 20+/- . Compared to Verizon this is like comparing Fios to 1999 era dial up. the best I ever got on Verizon 4G was 14 download but average between 4 and 9 !
The Network notification switches a lot between 4G, "H" mode, whatever that is, just bars and another which I didn't catch quick enough to read ?
Battery has been amazing compared to my galaxy Nexus, I got 7.5 hours of Actual "Screen on Time" which included some GPS use and an hour of music streaming total phone up time was 34+ hours. How long it will perform like this is anyone's guess, today i got about 6.5 of Screen on time. I hope this inst a trend
Now for the bad news - Using it as a Phone. Incoming calls are fine but, making outgoing is a Pain in the A$$.
When I dial a number, (which is a hassle on this KitKat dialer) it often goes to the home screen or back to the dialer. The Call Fails. I am not sure if my dialer is buggy or its a compatibility problem. the KitKat Dialer on the Moto X is an exorcise in futility. Google are you listening? Why reinvent the wheel. All I want in my Dialer is a Number Pad! and a phone book.
When I Open dialer I see Recent calls up top, the whole middle section says all contacts and is otherwise blank, the bottom has the number pad icon, History and settings dots.
Clicking the number pad icon enlarges the bottom section, which then goes all white and removes the three icons. I have to then click the back arrow and re-click the number pad icon to bring it up the actual dialer. .
At this time I can dial. and then the call always fails on the first attempt. Sometimes it takes several attempts to go through.
When I click send on the dialer the 4G disappears and I am left with just the bars. they come back when call is done but sometimes take a few minutes to do so.
If you Kill the dialer app or swipe it away, coming back to it you will have the same issues when trying to get the number pad (two attempts) if you dont, the number pad will open on first attempt. but the calls will still fail on the first try.
I also cant use the internet when in a call, whether WiFi is on or off. Is this a T-mobile problem? I could use the net in Verizon when in a call when on 4G or WiFi
The Data is set to global mode but I have tried both the other settings. On boot up I get a warning saying the SIM is not recognized which I just swipe away.
I am also having this problem. After making a call, the music player and the phones "volume" aspects cease to work., Meaning, I get no sound out of the phone, Music, notifications alarms etc.. This happens almost every time and the only fix is a reboot
I disabled all Verizon Bloat and a lot of Moto Bloat as well This could be causing some of the bugs? But i have tested several different configurations all with the same outcomes.
Hope this helps and puts an end to the - Will it work or not questions. There seem to be a lot of Net Know it all's that flat out say a Verizon Moto x wont work with a T-Mobile SIM or some other undocumented "fact"
I have the same issues as SOMFW. Disabling LTE resolves all these problems, so it seems like it's an issue with the LTE-to-2G/3G fallback for phone calls.
When I force it into HSPA+, I have both simultaneous voice and data and no dialing issues.
nethead25 said:
I have the same issues as SOMFW. Disabling LTE resolves all these problems, so it seems like it's an issue with the LTE-to-2G/3G fallback for phone calls.
When I force it into HSPA+, I have both simultaneous voice and data and no dialing issues.
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How did you disable 4G? or Force it into HSPA+? Is there a setting I am missing?
Somebody else mentioned Manually adding T-Mobile APN is this something you did?
On My Moto,x when using the Vz SIM there is an APN labeled Verizon that appears on its own, On the TM SIM it was blank
Also, while on the TM SIM under About Phone / Status My phone number doesn't show, On the Vz SIM it is there and the Dialer works fine. But I still get the Dialer Bug, which is, When I click the Keypad icon the bottom area goes blank and I have to hit the back button and repeat it. This only happens if I swipe the dialer out of running apps list, Force close it or haven't used it for several hours.
Any Ideas?
SOMFW said:
How did you disable 4G? or Force it into HSPA+? Is there a setting I am missing?
Somebody else mentioned Manually adding T-Mobile APN is this something you did?
On My Moto,x when using the Vz SIM there is an APN labeled Verizon that appears on its own, On the TM SIM it was blank
Also, while on the TM SIM under About Phone / Status My phone number doesn't show, On the Vz SIM it is there and the Dialer works fine. But I still get the Dialer Bug, which is, When I click the Keypad icon the bottom area goes blank and I have to hit the back button and repeat it. This only happens if I swipe the dialer out of running apps list, Force close it or haven't used it for several hours.
Any Ideas?
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These are the steps I used to turn off LTE and enable HSPA:
1) Download/install the app LTE OnOff
2) Change Mobile Network type in Settings to LTE / GSM / UMTS
3) On LTE OnOff, hit the Three-Dot menu in the top right, and select "Select radio band"
4) Select USA Band
5) Hit the Turn Off Radio button
6) Select GSM auto (PRL) under Preferred Network Type
7) Turn On Radio
The phone should show no data for a second, then 3G, then eventually an H for HSPA will be displayed.
You can also try GSM only or WCDMA preferred if GSM auto doesn't work.
Still trying to figure out how to get LTE to play nice with it.
There is a known LTE bug that causes this issue in 4.4. Check aracanexvi's thread in the Droid Ultra section. Basically we will need to leave LTE off of you want to make calls reliably.
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Would be easier if I just shared the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2591954
4.4 and Non-VZW carriers
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Which one are people having better luck with, at or T-Mobile?
can you put a T-Mobile ROM for it to work as well?
Using Verizon Moto X (locked Verizon retail) on ATT should be as good as using it on Tmobile, assuming I don't need LTE ?
Thanks.
Hi
I am in india, i have a retail Xt1060.
According to sources it must be sim unlocked. but i unable to use any gsm sim in this phone.
I tried many networks Listed bellow -
1. IDEA - Signal bars comes, but replaced by a Red mark with in 1 sec.
2. Vodafone - Full signal bars, but only dataworking, no calls , shows - Mobile network not available.
3. BSNL - Same as Vodafone.
I unable to understand what is happening.
As we already know, there is no way to unlock bootloader yet.
My phone is now rooted and have Safetrap recovery.
My main questions are -
1. I have to unlock sim slot with code?
2. Can i install cyanogen or any other rom with Safetrap?
3. Will sim work after installing cyanogen?
4. Any one have any clue?
Thanks in advance.
Please any body here, help me
$20 donation is ready from my side.
Here are some live logcats, when tried to call
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2147483647
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06 19:34:45.140 1099 1099 W CellInfoLte: getCellIdentity: LteCellIdentitiy:
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mCi=2147483647 mPci=2147483647 mTac=2147483647, CellSignalStrengthLte: ss=21
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Give your donation to Google.
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en-C...+unlocked&gfe_rd=cr&ei=MooYU-bUE4nU8gf9qoGQCA
Pretty easy to find an answer, that's why no one is responding. Could have just called Verizon too I'd think.
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This covers the thread headline question anyway.
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This not helped
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Give your donation to Google.
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en-C...+unlocked&gfe_rd=cr&ei=MooYU-bUE4nU8gf9qoGQCA
Pretty easy to find an answer, that's why no one is responding. Could have just called Verizon too I'd think.
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This covers the thread headline question anyway.
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This not help sir, my Moto X not working with GSM SIMs. i am having same problem listed in this tread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/sim-card-unknown-source-moto-x-cdma-t2578847
My bet is the cards are either just not compatible, or the apn settings are missing/incorrect. Find out the apn settings for the carrier you're trying to get on and compare them with yours.
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kj2112 said:
My bet is the cards are either just not compatible, or the apn settings are missing/incorrect. Find out the apn settings for the carrier you're trying to get on and compare them with yours.
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You might also try changing the settings under Settings:Wireless&Networks More:Mobile Networksreferred network type. Using LTE on a non-VZW network has caused problems with calls
I tried all changing SIm cards and changing networks mods, There is no problem with APNs because internet is working with few sims.
But main problem is calls and sms.
And this problem is only with customized Moto X, normal Moto X is working fine.
And one more thing , device is working fine with CDMA sim.
But i want to use GSM
jasoraso said:
You might also try changing the settings under Settings:Wireless&Networks More:Mobile Networksreferred network type. Using LTE on a non-VZW network has caused problems with calls
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kj2112 said:
My bet is the cards are either just not compatible, or the apn settings are missing/incorrect. Find out the apn settings for the carrier you're trying to get on and compare them with yours.
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CDMA Sim is working, but GSM not, i already tried all things like changing Mods and changing sims.
And apn settings are correct? If they aren't, whatever part is wrong won't work.
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And apn settings are correct? If they aren't, whatever part is wrong won't work.
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After adding APN internet/data is working fine with some sims. But not calls
Even with Some SIM like (idea) it showing emergency calls, data is also not working with (idea)
But i do not why CDMA sim is working fine.
kj2112 said:
And apn settings are correct? If they aren't, whatever part is wrong won't work.
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In phone info menu, it is showing
GSM Service: Emergency calls only
Can you give me the ROM backup made with Safetrap?, may be there is a problem with ROM.
I also flashed fresh firmware from RSD lite, but no help.
It is not a problem with APN, i think it is with ROM.
and please tell me how i can install cyanogen in safetrap
I tried to flash Cyanogen in Safetrap, but it is not booting
No idea I'm afraid. I unlocked my bootloader when I unwrapped my x. Never used safestrap. Maybe check the thread for it?
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No idea I'm afraid. I unlocked my bootloader when I unwrapped my x. Never used safestrap. Maybe check the thread for it?
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Thanks for help
It is a retail version, so no bootloader unlock possible yet. Only thing left is safetrap.
I am gonna crazy, why it is showing emergency calls, even there are full signal bars and data is working.
When i try to make calls it shows "Mobile network not available"
IMEI and MEID is both fine and correct.
and funny thing is it is working with CDMA SIM
lovepreet39 said:
...There is no problem with APNs because internet is working with few sims.
But main problem is calls and sms.
...But i want to use GSM
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I am gonna crazy, why it is showing emergency calls, even there are full signal bars and data is working.
When i try to make calls it shows "Mobile network not available"
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You also mention it works fine with a CDMA sim... but...
Keep in mind there are many entries under the APN settings. If you get SOME of them right, you might get SOME parts of the phone working.
The sim you are trying to use, do you have another phone that is 100% working with it? In other words, is there another phone which completely works with this SIM that you might be able to use, and view the APN settings? then make sure they are entered EXACTLY the same in the X? The APN Type sometimes causes me problems when using an ATT or T-Mobile (USA GSM carriers) sim in my Verizon phones. It was a struggle for me to get 100% working APN setup for T-Mobile, despite a few articles and even a T-Mobile web site listing the APN settings.
Another issue you might run into could be saving the APN settings. If you have a locked bootloader and haven't rooted and used MotoWpNoMo to disable write protection (or you've upgraded to 4.4.2), then if the phone tries to save the APN settings to /system or the like, the changes wont survive power on/off, and you'll have to re-enter the APN settings every time you "hard boot" the phone.
The other question I have is... what frequencies does your GSM carrier use? Are you sure they are supported by the X?
The Verizon X supports the following non-CDMA frequencies...
EDGE/GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 Mhz
HSPA/UMTS 850/900/1900/2100 Mhz (download up to 42.2Mbps, upload up to 5.76 Mbps depending on the network you connect to)
LTE: Band 4 and 13 <- not likely used outside the USA
The Edge/GSM bands are pretty standard world wide, so I would hope that is not an issue, but its always worth considering.
KidJoe said:
You also mention it works fine with a CDMA sim... but...
Keep in mind there are many entries under the APN settings. If you get SOME of them right, you might get SOME parts of the phone working.
The sim you are trying to use, do you have another phone that is 100% working with it? In other words, is there another phone which completely works with this SIM that you might be able to use, and view the APN settings? then make sure they are entered EXACTLY the same in the X? The APN Type sometimes causes me problems when using an ATT or T-Mobile (USA GSM carriers) sim in my Verizon phones. It was a struggle for me to get 100% working APN setup for T-Mobile, despite a few articles and even a T-Mobile web site listing the APN settings.
Another issue you might run into could be saving the APN settings. If you have a locked bootloader and haven't rooted and used MotoWpNoMo to disable write protection (or you've upgraded to 4.4.2), then if the phone tries to save the APN settings to /system or the like, the changes wont survive power on/off, and you'll have to re-enter the APN settings every time you "hard boot" the phone.
The other question I have is... what frequencies does your GSM carrier use? Are you sure they are supported by the X?
The Verizon X supports the following non-CDMA frequencies...
EDGE/GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 Mhz
HSPA/UMTS 850/900/1900/2100 Mhz (download up to 42.2Mbps, upload up to 5.76 Mbps depending on the network you connect to)
LTE: Band 4 and 13 <- not likely used outside the USA
The Edge/GSM bands are pretty standard world wide, so I would hope that is not an issue, but its always worth considering.
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You are right it support all freq
and SIM's are fine working in other phones.
lovepreet39 said:
You are right it support all freq
and SIM's are fine working in other phones.
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can you look at the APN settings on those other phones and compare them to the APN settings when that sim is placed in the X to confirm they are 100% identical and without any typographical errors?
KidJoe said:
can you look at the APN settings on those other phones and compare them to the APN settings when that sim is placed in the X to confirm they are 100% identical and without any typographical errors?
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Yes, everything is same.
And i want to tell you APN is only related to DATA
It has nothing do to with calls and sms
and Data is working fine
But no calls and sms
and i checked twice APNs are same.
lovepreet39 said:
Yes, everything is same.
And i want to tell you APN is only related to DATA
It has nothing do to with calls and sms
and Data is working fine
But no calls and sms
and i checked twice APNs are same.
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Well, here in the USA, improper APN settings DID prevent me from making calls, sending text, send SMS, and using data/web browser when I had a T-Mobile USA Sim in my Verizon Moto X
But if you are 100% certain its not the APN, then I don't know what to tell you.
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Well, here in the USA, improper APN settings DID prevent me from making calls, sending text, send SMS, and using data/web browser when I had a T-Mobile USA Sim in my Verizon Moto X
But if you are 100% certain its not the APN, then I don't know what to tell you.
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I also have no idea what is happening, Full signal and showing emergency calls.
A little annoying.
The proper solution in the future is to buy a GSM phone without very specific ties to a provider, not a CDMA phone that also supports GSM for roaming purposes. Keep in mind Verizon has no interest in people wanting to use the phone on anything but the Verizon network, they could care less if it works for you if you're not a Verizon customer.
This problem is not new with verizon phones
You can search XDA for more info, check in Galaxy S3, S4 or Nexus 5 forum
My customized MOTO X from verizon not taking a GSM sim in india.
I tried many sims from different carries, but failed.
It showing full bars with carrier logo, but no calls and sms, only data is working.
When i tried to call someone it shows "Mobile Network not available".
I check IMEI, it is in good condition
and one more thing
When i putting my IMEI on imei.info
It showing XT1055 which is us celluar.
But my one is XT1060
I have bootloader unlocked, flashed cyanogen, sprint rom, roggers rom but no luck.
and my moto x is working with CDMA OMH sim
I do not why it is acting like a us celluar MOTO X which accepts only CDMA sims
Now i am on 4.2.2 Verizon ROM, GSM sim is not working, Showing "Mobile network not available"
I had the same issue after a friend of mine used my VZW MotoX on TMobile.
He upgraded for 4.4 to 4.4.2 while he had it running on TMo. I think that the update has broken the radio.
After .sbf back to VZW stock everything works great
I think it may be IMEI problem..
help get my moto x back on vz - not able to make calls
toastedoats said:
I had the same issue after a friend of mine used my VZW MotoX on TMobile.
He upgraded for 4.4 to 4.4.2 while he had it running on TMo. I think that the update has broken the radio.
After .sbf back to VZW stock everything works great
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I thik that's what's happened to me - tried my verizon motox on tmobile but since couldn't make wifi calls didn't want to keep it- want it back on verizon- what do you mean after .sbf back to stock works great--what do I need to do - -i've done factory resets -tried lte on off apps...etc --please help
I have a retail verizon Moto X that I purchased from a friend. The calling does not work. It says "Mobile Network Not Available". The friend was using it on T-Mobile, I don't know if somehow the radio settings for the phone got internally changed when he did the 4.4.2 update. I've factory reset the phone several times, got a new sim card, trouble shouted with Verizon.
Why is the data and texting working, but the calling is not?!!
Driving me crazy.
Please advise!!!!
Edit* To make sure I'm clear, I'm trying to use the phone with Verizon, my friend was using with T-Mobile.
It sounds like the CDMA radio is not working.
halfprice06 said:
I have a retail verizon Moto X that I purchased from a friend. The calling does not work. It says "Mobile Network Not Available". The friend was using it on T-Mobile, I don't know if somehow the radio settings for the phone got internally changed when he did the 4.4.2 update. I've factory reset the phone several times, got a new sim card, trouble shouted with Verizon.
Why is the data and texting working, but the calling is not?!!
Driving me crazy.
Please advise!!!!
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Same happening with me
PM me your e- mail.
and look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/verizon-moto-x-network-available-error-t2679289
SonicJoe said:
It sounds like the CDMA radio is not working.
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So do you think it is physically defective?
When I bought the phone off of him it was basically brand new in the box. He had used it less then a week. Not sure where he bought it but the IMEI was clean.
Is there anyway to reset the CDMA settings or anything like that?
Did you call verizon and register the phone with them? I'm curious, don't Verizon/Sprint/RW phones have an ESN in addition to an IMEI for their CDMA radio?
Our imei can be backed up and flashed..only use once every thing is OK...I've used this several times with the mobile network not available problem and it fixes it...I would suggest sbf http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2514095
Do not flash this if your already having problems
Sent from my xt1060vzwDE
halfprice06 said:
I have a retail verizon Moto X that I purchased from a friend. The calling does not work. It says "Mobile Network Not Available". The friend was using it on T-Mobile, I don't know if somehow the radio settings for the phone got internally changed when he did the 4.4.2 update. I've factory reset the phone several times, got a new sim card, trouble shouted with Verizon.
Why is the data and texting working, but the calling is not?!!
Driving me crazy.
Please advise!!!!
Edit* To make sure I'm clear, I'm trying to use the phone with Verizon, my friend was using with T-Mobile.
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if you want to use it on verizon, then buy out a new verizon sim
and please check phone is not related to any older verizon account.
CDMA use MEID/ESN
GSM use IMEI.
If you are trying to use it on a CDMA network, then i do not know what is happening, because my one is not working with GSM, but working with CDMA
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Did you call verizon and register the phone with them? I'm curious, don't Verizon/Sprint/RW phones have an ESN in addition to an IMEI for their CDMA radio?
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Yes, I called verizon and gave them the MEID. In the system settings the the IMEI and MEID are exactly the same except the IMEI has one extra digit at the end (it's a 4).
lovepreet39 said:
if you want to use it on verizon, then buy out a new verizon sim
and please check phone is not related to any older verizon account.
CDMA use MEID/ESN
GSM use IMEI.
If you are trying to use it on a CDMA network, then i do not know what is happening, because my one is not working with GSM, but working with CDMA
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I have already got a new sim, and the phone is not related to any older verizon account.
When I run the CQATest and choose the sim card test, I get an error that says the Phone ICCID doesn't compare with the SIM ICCID.
The phone ICCID is completely different front the SIM ICCID. The SIM ICCID is the actual number on the sim card. Could this be related?!
I had the same issue after a friend of mine used my VZW MotoX on TMobile.
He upgraded from 4.4 to 4.4.2 while he had it running on TMo. I think that the update applied GSM Radio firmware and not the VZW/CDMA firmware and "broke" the radio.
After .sbf back to VZW stock everything works great