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Hello nice people of this forum, I've just got myself an Xperia V, running 9.0.1.D.0.10, and is looking for a method to root it without unlocking the bootloader.
I've tried googling it and searching the forums but came back empty. Perhaps some nice person can help me.
Thanks,
Aaron
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Edit : Solved as of 3rd April 2013. Refer to general page.
Aaron_035 said:
Hello nice people of this forum, I've just got myself an Xperia V, running 9.0.1.D.0.10, and is looking for a method to root it without unlocking the bootloader.
I've tried googling it and searching the forums but came back empty. Perhaps some nice person can help me.
Thanks,
Aaron
Sent from my LT25i
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If you look in v android development there is an unsecure kernel, but this is for older firmware, maybe it works
Edit: you must unlock bootloader for custom kernel, i do not think bin4ry method works for newer firmwares
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funiewski said:
If you look in v android development there is an unsecure kernel, but this is for older firmware, maybe it works
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"Without unlocking the bootloader"
LT25i
datagubben said:
"Without unlocking the bootloader"
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me ->
Thanks so much for your quick responses.
So right now, we have no root access without unlocking the bootloader.
Hopefully the genius developers will come up with something soon. A little bothered by the bloatware from my provider.
Thanks guys,
Aaron
funiewski said:
If you look in v android development there is an unsecure kernel, but this is for older firmware, maybe it works
Edit: you must unlock bootloader for custom kernel, i do not think bin4ry method works for newer firmwares
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Hi funiewski,
I have tried rooting by flashing that kernel but I don't seems to get root when I check with the root checker app. Would you be able to advise on this? I would have posted in that thread but apparently I don't have enough post count.
Aaron_035 said:
Thanks so much for your quick responses.
So right now, we have no root access without unlocking the bootloader.
Hopefully the genius developers will come up with something soon. A little bothered by the bloatware from my provider.
Thanks guys,
Aaron
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Singtel hah? Hahaha ask Palmer clear for you lor.
Serious: I'm getting a V soon and is the bloatware that bad?
EDIT: You can clear bloatware by flashing an international version of the firmware.
lee480 said:
Singtel hah? Hahaha ask Palmer clear for you lor.
Serious: I'm getting a V soon and is the bloatware that bad?
EDIT: You can clear bloatware by flashing an international version of the firmware.
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Hi! Are you a fellow Singaporean as well? Are you familiar with this rooting process?
Harimoto said:
Hi! Are you a fellow Singaporean as well? Are you familiar with this rooting process?
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Well hello fellow nation-man. I'm Singaporean too. I'm using star hub. Its not that bad, its just bothering me. Ha ha.
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If you guys want to root without unlocking bootloader, PM me.
Need a guinea pig. My V havent come yet. It's using the same method as rooting the new 6.1.1.C.1.0 for the ST-E phones.
lee480 said:
If you guys want to root without unlocking bootloader, PM me.
Need a guinea pig. My V havent come yet. It's using the same method as rooting the new 6.1.1.C.1.0 for the ST-E phones.
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Thank you and your guinea pig. Brave souls who seek progress.
Aaron_035 said:
Thank you and your guinea pig. Brave souls who seek progress.
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Are you interested? PM me if. Even if anything goes wrong, most likely, nothing will go wrong as u can reflash the original firmware.
lee480 said:
Are you interested? PM me if. Even if anything goes wrong, most likely, nothing will go wrong as u can reflash the original firmware.
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Sorry dude, the Xperia V I'm using is the one mailed to my home for my dad. He's currently overseas so I'm using it.
Mine will be arriving in a couple of days though So... Soon, perhaps.
Sorry,
Aaron
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lee480 said:
Are you interested? PM me if. Even if anything goes wrong, most likely, nothing will go wrong as u can reflash the original firmware.
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I can be your Guinea pig! Got my second Xperia V today, the old one received on December 4th was Dead On Delivery (DOA).
I put it in the bath to test it, but with headphones attched, not good idea!
datagubben said:
I can be your Guinea pig! Got my second Xperia V today, the old one received on December 4th was Dead On Delivery (DOA).
I put it in the bath to test it, but with headphones attched, not good idea!
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As on right now you dont want to be that guinea pig... my freind cpumaster lost wifi and bluetooth from this "test" and cant roll back on seus....
Sorry for the late reply. Looks like it didnt worked. Just reflash the stock ftf and WiFi and Bluetooth will work again.
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Sorry for the late reply. Looks like it didnt worked. Just reflash the stock ftf and WiFi and Bluetooth will work again.
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Cpumaster says that he cant roll back anymore. Seus doesnt work... as he doenst wake up for ahwile im wondering if yu could send me the unkmodified kernel so i can give to him?
There may be a way to root without unlocked bootloader
Try this well-known way of rooting Xperia AX in Japan.
I guess it's also possible for V to root.
1. Here is a Xperia VL's old rom and you can flash this kernel.sin and system.sin with V's loader.sin.
I can't post the link, but you can find it in uploaded.net. The ID is 3gvvv3w6.
2. Then, Root.
3. Create /data/local.prop (ro.kernel.qemu=1).
4. Flash V's system.sin without wiping.
5. Replace ric, install Busybox and Superuser.
6. Flash V's kernel.sin without wiping.
7. Do Factory data reset to easily delete unnecessary apps.
Daizaemon said:
Try this well-known way of rooting Xperia AX in Japan.
I guess it's also possible for V to root.
1. Here is a Xperia VL's old rom and you can flash this kernel.sin and system.sin with V's loader.sin.
I can't post the link, but you can find it in uploaded.net. The ID is 3gvvv3w6.
2. Then, Root.
3. Create /data/local.prop (ro.kernel.qemu=1).
4. Flash V's system.sin without wiping.
5. Replace ric, install Busybox and Superuser.
6. Flash V's kernel.sin without wiping.
7. Do Factory data reset to easily delete unnecessary apps.
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Broke cpumasters wifi and bluetooth and he cant relfash now fotr some reason... so we need a dif method for sure
Hi
Like me, many of us are waiting for the pre order to come on 28th or soon after. Would love to root as soon as it is unboxed.
Is there any work around for rooting this device?
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Guys in Development section already got kernel sources - so it might come faster than we think - but surely not as soon as it is unboxed. You'll probaly have to wait at least few days.
Akiainavas said:
Guys in Development section already got kernel sources - so it might come faster than we think - but surely not as soon as it is unboxed. You'll probaly have to wait at least few days.
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Yeah I have noticed the release of kernel by Sony.
Happy to wait for rooting to come.
Thanks.
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Rooting is easy if any devs got a device already they could make one in less than 10minutes. Even they could make one now given the stock ROMs available now in dev section. What we really need to have now is how to relock the bootloader.
Riyal said:
Rooting is easy if any devs got a device already they could make one in less than 10minutes. Even they could make one now given the stock ROMs available now in dev section. What we really need to have now is how to relock the bootloader.
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So since this phone is due for release is it a known fact that the bootloader is unlocked & also what would be achieved or the benefits of relocking the bootloader. Can't imagine why to relock coz despite best efforts by top developers over a year, my current phone's bootloader is totally hack proof (not impossible but improbable)
RAD7 said:
So since this phone is due for release is it a known fact that the bootloader is unlocked & also what would be achieved or the benefits of relocking the bootloader. Can't imagine why to relock coz despite best efforts by top developers over a year, my current phone's bootloader is totally hack proof (not impossible but improbable)
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It's features.
With relock bootloader you could do OTA, Bravia Engine, download music info and stuffs. Plus maybe get your warranty back.
I can't imagine seeing lots of people buy the Xperia Z then unlock it then weeks after sony announces 1st batch of the devices have some major bug and you can't return it back because you void your warranty because you unlocked your bootloader.
Riyal said:
It's features.
With relock bootloader you could do OTA, Bravia Engine, download music info and stuffs. Plus maybe get your warranty back.
I can't imagine seeing lots of people buy the Xperia Z then unlock it then weeks after sony announces 1st batch of the devices have some major bug and you can't return it back because you void your warranty because you unlocked your bootloader.
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Oh ok, worst case people could just use the old microwave trick for getting replacement under warranty!
Sorry no idea whats the connection of microwave and warranty
Riyal said:
Sorry no idea whats the connection of microwave and warranty
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There was a "trick" where people fried their radios ( wifi, BT etc ) with a microwave to claim warranty - since those are on mb itself, service usually replaces the whole board. In theory there is no way to tell that your radios were damaged on purpose by a microwave - this way some tried to claim warranty saying their radios "just stopped working". Some claim it worked, others it didn't - i myself believe it to be utter gar.... if you put your phone into microwave, you're gonna have a bad time
Akiainavas said:
There was a "trick" where people fried their radios ( wifi, BT etc ) with a microwave to claim warranty - since those are on mb itself, service usually replaces the whole board. In theory there is no way to tell that your radios were damaged on purpose by a microwave - this way some tried to claim warranty saying their radios "just stopped working". Some claim it worked, others it didn't - i myself believe it to be utter gar.... if you put your phone into microwave, you're gonna have a bad time
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Hmm I think that ain't gonna work since if you ever fried a radio sony can still check if whether the bootloader is locked or unlocked. Better fry the whole device instead :laugh:
Well I just mentioned what I read & yeah I think it's for less than 10 secs @ lowest wattage But hmm yeah I didn't know that it is yet possible to check if BL was unlocked.
PS : Dont try this as home :laugh:
Riyal said:
It's features.
With relock bootloader you could do OTA, Bravia Engine, download music info and stuffs. Plus maybe get your warranty back.
I can't imagine seeing lots of people buy the Xperia Z then unlock it then weeks after sony announces 1st batch of the devices have some major bug and you can't return it back because you void your warranty because you unlocked your bootloader.
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I can already provide a relock package that probably works
Only problem is that Flashtool doesn't support the new XZ yet so I won't provide it until the new Flashtool is relaesed
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krabappel2548 said:
I can already provide a relock package that probably works
Only problem is that Flashtool doesn't support the new XZ yet so I won't provide it until the new Flashtool is relaesed
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Hmm do you mean sony have new header files which made the ftfs unreadable again by flashtool?
Wow your fast didn't get the device yet development has already started huh. :good:
Riyal said:
Rooting is easy if any devs got a device already they could make one in less than 10minutes. Even they could make one now given the stock ROMs available now in dev section. What we really need to have now is how to relock the bootloader.
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Rooting on locked bootloader is difficult... One needs to hunt for exploit which can happen in 5 mins or can take months...
Relocking bootloader is easy... Just flash a ftf containing correct TA code...
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DooMLoRD said:
Rooting on locked bootloader is difficult... One needs to hunt for exploit which can happen in 5 mins or can take months...
Relocking bootloader is easy... Just flash a ftf containing correct TA code...
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Uhm yeah correct with that one but I was talking about rooting on unlocked bootloaders
rooting it while it's locked is an exploit or security flaw so yeah it's hard to do.
Regarding relocking bootloader no idea how to do since my last sony device was unlocked using testpoint and there's no way of relocking it yet at that time.
What I'm interested in at this point is anything with the drm keys. I want that to stay even when the device is unlocked. Do you know by chance where is it stored anyways? Is it on one of the partitions inside the phone or is there a seperate chipset where it is isolately stored? Or is it something like a firmware embedded to a chipset?
Hey guys,
I'm extremely sorry for opening this thread.! Please forgive me. I posted my question in another thread but didn't get a reply. I am from India and I want to buy Xperia T (which hasn't officially launched in India) from eBay. I was worried about the official jelly bean update for the phone. As tge phone hasn't launched in India the eBay people are providing imported phones. I found a tutorial to manually update the phone here: http://android.sc/update-the-sony-x...o-official-android-4-1-2-jelly-bean-firmware/
This is a flash tool method to flash the official 4.1.2 update only for Xperia T LT30p. I just want to know whether this method is COMPLETELY RISK FREE and there is NOT EVEN A SLIGHTEST CHANCE TO BROCK THE DEVICE BOUGHT FROM ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD???? I want to know this as the Sony service centre in India won't even look at the phone if there is any problem! Please asure me of this flash tool method by taking a look at it and also,
can you please refer to this thread:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136173 and tell me what can cause this type of problems? The person who started this thread who has posted 'something' about Xperia T and he is from India! And he bought his phone from Germany! I tried searching the net for 'Xperia T India' but I couldn't find a thing. So I just want to be sure about the flash tool method mentioned in the above link. Has anyone done that before?
VikramW8 said:
I just want to know whether this method is COMPLETELY RISK FREE and there is NOT EVEN A SLIGHTEST CHANCE TO BROCK THE DEVICE BOUGHT FROM ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD????
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No.
ApriliaM3 said:
No.
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Then how do you suggest I update the phone safely and securely to the official jelly bean update? Or could you please give me a link to a thread where the question has been answered or to a safe tutorial to update the phone? I tried searching but I wasn't able to find anything that answers my question! And does this depend upon the region from where the phone is? Will I be able to update the phone using this method? Can anyone please help me with a detailed answer?! PLEASE!!
There is no 100% foolproof method, even the sony official method can ruin your phone if YOU DO NOT FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS.
However, IF YOU FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS it will work.
Just try it.
gregbradley said:
There is no 100% foolproof method, even the sony official method can ruin your phone if YOU DO NOT FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS.
However, IF YOU FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS it will work.
Just try it.
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Thank you very much... I was just looking for some confirmation. But now I got to know that this flash tool method is as safe pc companion method(correct me if I am wrong) I am pretty good at following instructions and also I have a rooted, bootloader unlocked, swaped xperia x8 running CM10. I am just so worried because I'm 17 and hence I don' t earn a single penny myself and this xperia T should last me atleast for the next 3 years. Would you please give me confirmation once again just for my satisfaction and also some general advice you think is necessary before following the above method? Like region verification, build no., kernel & firmware version, etc
...Pleaseee?!!:fingers-crossed:
I've pressed the thanks button
VikramW8 said:
Thank you very much... I was just looking for some confirmation. But now I got to know that this flash tool method is as safe pc companion method(correct me if I am wrong) I am pretty good at following instructions and also I have a rooted, bootloader unlocked, swaped xperia x8 running CM10. I am just so worried because I'm 17 and hence I don' t earn a single penny myself and this xperia T should last me atleast for the next 3 years. Would you please give me confirmation once again just for my satisfaction and also some general advice you think is necessary before following the above method? Like region verification, build no., kernel & firmware version, etc
...Pleaseee?!!:fingers-crossed:
I've pressed the thanks button
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Yes, rest assured, it's totally risk-free, using flashtool and flashing STOCK roms and kernels is risk-free, provided that you carefully follow the instructions...
for the firmwares and kernels, regions and the rest, don't worry about these things, as you know, you can flash ANY GLOBAL firmware, whether it is for France or M.E. or Malaysia, so don't worry, just search and see what build number is the last firmware for your T, then flash it, and thanks to DoomLord, you can root it even you have locked bootloader, using his rootkit, so don't unlock the bootloader for now
wish you best of bests, bro
ebi4321 said:
Yes, rest assured, it's totally risk-free, using flashtool and flashing STOCK roms and kernels is risk-free, provided that you carefully follow the instructions...
for the firmwares and kernels, regions and the rest, don't worry about these things, as you know, you can flash ANY GLOBAL firmware, whether it is for France or M.E. or Malaysia, so don't worry, just search and see what build number is the last firmware for your T, then flash it, and thanks to DoomLord, you can root it even you have locked bootloader, using his rootkit, so don't unlock the bootloader for now
wish you best of bests, bro
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Well thank you... that was really comforting..! Now I will definitely upgrade to jellybean on the first day itself after buying the phone.. Thanks for your reply! I'll buy the phone in 4-5 days and I'll enjoy real lag free 'Sony' jellybean. For too long I've been flaahing ROMs on my xperia x8, so I'm tired of it now. May be I won't get into rooting, etc for another 6 months! Thats what I'm saying now!
By the way if anyone comes across a better method please let me know! Ofcourse I'll be searching too..
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Well thank you... that was really comforting..! Now I will definitely upgrade to jellybean on the first day itself after buying the phone.. Thanks for your reply! I'll buy the phone in 4-5 days and I'll enjoy real lag free 'Sony' jellybean. For too long I've been flaahing ROMs on my xperia x8, so I'm tired of it now. May be I won't get into rooting, etc for another 6 months! Thats what I'm saying now!
By the way if anyone comes across a better method please let me know! Ofcourse I'll be searching too..
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no harm will be made to your device if you root using DoomLord rootkit, that works easy and safe
will provide you the link if you want, when you get your phone
ebi4321 said:
no harm will be made to your device if you root using DoomLord rootkit, that works easy and safe
will provide you the link if you want, when you get your phone
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Thank you friend! You really have helped me a lot... You will be the first one to know(except my parents) after the phone is delivered to me and also after I've placed the order! Well, about rooting.... ammm... After a month may be...! (Down to 1 from 6) Lets c what happens after I've updated the device! Thanks again bro....:angel:
And ofcourse I like your signature and I also agree with it..!
VikramW8 said:
Thank you friend! You really have helped me a lot... You will be the first one to know(except my parents) after the phone is delivered to me and also after I've placed the order! Well, about rooting.... ammm... After a month may be...! (Down to 1 from 6) Lets c what happens after I've updated the device! Thanks again bro....:angel:
And ofcourse I like your signature and I also agree with it..!
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haaaa haaaa haaaaa, my signature
it's a bit crazy, but it is true, i hate Samsung devices, they are more of a TOY rather than a PHONE
hope you enjoy your T
ebi4321 said:
haaaa haaaa haaaaa, my signature
it's a bit crazy, but it is true, i hate Samsung devices, they are more of a TOY rather than a PHONE
hope you enjoy your T
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Yup I will! I'll be placing my order on the 13th!
VikramW8 said:
Yup I will! I'll be placing my order on the 13th!
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what about SP? have you seen that one? seems A LOT better than T and TX, and A GIANT GPU inside, i HIGHLY recommend that one bro...
ebi4321 said:
what about SP? have you seen that one? seems A LOT better than T and TX, and A GIANT GPU inside, i HIGHLY recommend that one bro...
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Yup.. I did give it a thought! But its out of my budget... or otherwise I would have bought a nexus 4 16GB! Though xperia T is nowhere near the nexus 4 in terms of looks and hardware but it looks much better than SP. Also the SP has just 5.8GB of usable internal storage.... I felt really sad that I can't buy nexus 4 as it costs 100USD more than Xperia T and SP costs 70USD more... But then I thought I'm just 17! Not everyone of my age is lucky enough to own such a phone.. Many of my aquiantances can't even operate a Galaxy Ace!
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Yup.. I did give it a thought! But its out of my budget... or otherwise I would have bought a nexus 4 16GB! Though xperia T is nowhere near the nexus 4 in terms of looks and hardware but it looks much better than SP. Also the SP has just 5.8GB of usable internal storage.... I felt really sad that I can't buy nexus 4 as it costs 100USD more than Xperia T and SP costs 70USD more... But then I thought I'm just 17! Not everyone of my age is lucky enough to own such a phone.. Many of my aquiantances can't even operate a Galaxy Ace!
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i know, look at my signature, when i was your age, i owned Z530i..!
ok, that's up to you, i just wanted to remind you of SP, now YOU are the one who decides
wish you luck anyway
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i know, look at my signature, when i was your age, i owned Z530i..!
ok, that's up to you, i just wanted to remind you of SP, now YOU are the one who decides
wish you luck anyway
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Yup thanks! :laugh: :angel: Thanks thanks thanks bro! :good:
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Yup thanks! :laugh: :angel: Thanks thanks thanks bro! :good:
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Pressing "Thanks" button is a better option, believe me
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Pressing "Thanks" button is a better option, believe me
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I already pressed 3 times bro...! Here goes the 4th!
Hey Vikram, I just want to ask that have you updated yr Xperia T to JB successfully? As my cousin brother ordered one today and he doesn't know about updating, rooting n all. so updating his phone is my job so...
Thanks in advance.
Everything you need to know is in the All-in-One-thread by gregbradley
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VikramW8 said:
Hey guys,
I'm extremely sorry for opening this thread.! Please forgive me. I posted my question in another thread but didn't get a reply. I am from India and I want to buy Xperia T (which hasn't officially launched in India) from eBay. I was worried about the official jelly bean update for the phone. As tge phone hasn't launched in India the eBay people are providing imported phones. I found a tutorial to manually update the phone here: http://android.sc/update-the-sony-x...o-official-android-4-1-2-jelly-bean-firmware/
This is a flash tool method to flash the official 4.1.2 update only for Xperia T LT30p. I just want to know whether this method is COMPLETELY RISK FREE and there is NOT EVEN A SLIGHTEST CHANCE TO BROCK THE DEVICE BOUGHT FROM ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD???? I want to know this as the Sony service centre in India won't even look at the phone if there is any problem! Please asure me of this flash tool method by taking a look at it and also,
can you please refer to this thread:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136173 and tell me what can cause this type of problems? The person who started this thread who has posted 'something' about Xperia T and he is from India! And he bought his phone from Germany! I tried searching the net for 'Xperia T India' but I couldn't find a thing. So I just want to be sure about the flash tool method mentioned in the above link. Has anyone done that before?
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Trust Me. It's Safe.. always follow the instractions and that all...
If someone could post please the Prototype Firmware
Meni30 said:
If someone could post please the Prototype Firmware
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/orig-development there you go, fill your boots
danw_oz said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/orig-development there you go, fill your boots
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That is not what he means.
I am unsure where he will download it from.
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That is not what he means.
I am unsure where he will download it from.
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Yes, isn't that called leaks, I haven't ever seen any from Sony
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Yes, isn't that called leaks, I haven't ever seen any from Sony
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No,
They are development threads made by xda users and are not based on Sony FW
He is asking for a prototype FW from sony, its an initial release of FW for journalistic and testing purposes. It is never released publicily, but there have been leaks in the past (Notably the first Sony JB release was leaked)
I do believe it only works on what are known as "Brown" Devices. i.e not for public sale
gregbradley said:
No,
They are development threads made by xda users and are not based on Sony FW
He is asking for a prototype FW from sony, its an initial release of FW for journalistic and testing purposes. It is never released publicily, but there have been leaks in the past (Notably the first Sony JB release was leaked)
I do believe it only works on what are known as "Brown" Devices. i.e not for public sale
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Yes but they have signature checks on those firmwares to look for the first few characters of the IEMI for the brown devices
danw_oz said:
Yes but they have signature checks on those firmwares to look for the first few characters of the IEMI for the brown devices
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Still, original android development roms are not protytype firmware
They are not even firmware (FTF files) but flashable, rooted and heavily modified .zips and nothing to do with official/unofficial releases from Sony
Why Sony is so damn restricted..
Every company has FW they don't release
You will find Sony is actually the most dev friendly OEM there is. That is why they have been voted XDA OEM of the year for the past 3 (Or maybe 4) years.
They are the only company that actively works with devs on xda
gregbradley said:
Every company has FW they don't release
You will find Sony is actually the most dev friendly OEM there is. That is why they have been voted XDA OEM of the year for the past 3 (Or maybe 4) years.
They are the only company that actively works with devs on xda
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Very Well, so here still hope.
eclyptos said:
Very Well, so here still hope.
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for what?
gregbradley said:
for what?
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To reach what we looking for with Sony and from Sony. A solution to all our problems.
eclyptos said:
To reach what we looking for with Sony and from Sony. A solution for all our problems.
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what problems?
gregbradley said:
what problems?
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With Z1, for example, Unlocking Bootloader, maybe we get new Firmwares. You said XDA actively works with Sony and Vice-Versa, so we still in a middle of nowhere or what? If this is true what you said a solution should be on the way.
eclyptos said:
With Z1, for example, Unlocking Bootloader, maybe we get new Firmwares. You said XDA actively works with Sony and Vice-Versa, so we still in a middle of nowhere or what? If this is true what you said a solution should be on the way.
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True, but that is a user problem, the stock releases have no problem. Its only a problem if you want to "mess" with the phone (Like we all do) then we do so with the caveat that we are messing with a stable system and we may make it unstable in some ways.
That's the fun and the joy in the journey
PS, unlocking the boot does not give you new firmwares. FW are official releases from sony. Custom roms are made by non sony developers and are not official
gregbradley said:
True, but that is a user problem, the stock releases have no problem. Its only a problem if you want to "mess" with the phone (Like we all do) then we do so with the caveat that we are messing with a stable system and we may make it unstable in some ways.
That's the fun and the joy in the journey
PS, unlocking the boot does not give you new firmwares. FW are official releases from sony. Custom roms are made by non sony developers and are not official
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I agree 100% but Sony do not own Android, even if it is a part of a stable product we messing around with Android and we testing they product. They should be grateful for that. They also learning from us so why don't give the right support to the customers.
We are not testing their product, they do it themselves, they are aware that there is a lot of android users that choose android in order to have more control but a lot of software on the phone is their intellectual property and they have every right to protect it.
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The only firmware that my phone accepts is the : C6902_14.1.G.1.526_TW.ftf but then i got a problem when phone is charging it works well but when its not charging when i close my phone the phone restarts itself ...and gives me some Crash Errors at the startup screen
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We are not testing their product, they do it themselves,
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I know they do, they have to but we stress this device upgrading, flashing, so in some way we test it also.
gregbradley said:
..they are aware that there is a lot of android users that choose android in order to have more control but a lot of software on the phone is their intellectual property and they have every right to protect it.
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Absolutely Right, I forgot about that.
Meni30 said:
The only firmware that my phone accepts is the : C6902_14.1.G.1.526_TW.ftf but then i got a problem when phone is charging it works well but when its not charging when i close my phone the phone restarts itself ...and gives me some Crash Errors at the startup screen
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Try using pccompanion to repair the phone
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I'm getting my z3c on the 1., and I'm very excited.
I have a question though;
How long do you think it'll take before we get root on this phone, to open up for some more advanced functions ? I know no-one can say for sure, but you guys migth take a shot based on your experiences.
This will be my first new phone in years, so I'm not in the loop about how long this usually takes, after a phone comes out.
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I'm getting my z3c on the 1., and I'm very excited.
I have a question though;
How long do you think it'll take before we get root on this phone, to open up for some more advanced functions ? I know no-one can say for sure, but you guys migth take a shot based on your experiences.
This will be my first new phone in years, so I'm not in the loop about how long this usually takes, after a phone comes out.
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Asked several times, no real answer as every device is different.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=307720938
CollinsJ said:
Asked several times, no real answer as every device is different.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=307720938
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Thanks, I should have searched first.
I guess we'll just have to hope, pray and wait.
Could try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/tool-prfcreator-easily-create-pre-t2859904
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Could try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/tool-prfcreator-easily-create-pre-t2859904
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Would be a first step but useless until we got a recovery with zip flash ability
Is there a dev actively looking for a way to root locked bootloader? If yes, does he have a blog or Twitter? I want to follow his progress..
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wooki said:
Would be a first step but useless until we got a recovery with zip flash ability
Is there a dev actively looking for a way to root locked bootloader? If yes, does he have a blog or Twitter? I want to follow his progress..
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If we had a recovery, that tool wouldn't even be necessary xP
I'm guessing Doomlord will, in time, come up with something. Doesn't he always...?
Though I do believe we need to find a security hole to even get a recovery working (correct me if I'm wrong here).
EDIT: I've also tried every one-touch root apps and various Windows programs. None of them work ;-;
Damn you, Google, for hiring exploit patchers with such skills!
someone755 said:
If we had a recovery, that tool wouldn't even be necessary xP
I'm guessing Doomlord will, in time, come up with something. Doesn't he always...?
Though I do believe we need to find a security hole to even get a recovery working (correct me if I'm wrong here).
EDIT: I've also tried every one-touch root apps and various Windows programs. None of them work ;-;
Damn you, Google, for hiring exploit patchers with such skills!
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They now have geohot (George Hotz) working for them to stop exploits..
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pricey2009 said:
They now have geohot (George Hotz) working for them to stop exploits..
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Well yeah, that's exactly what I was aiming at with my comment
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Well yeah, that's exactly what I was aiming at with my comment
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In Doomlord we trust, he never let's us down. Patentice is a virtue lol
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pricey2009 said:
In Doomlord we trust, he never let's us down. Patentice is a virtue lol
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Patience is a virtue. But having the reason I bought the device go away if I unlock the bootloader is just unfair, imo.
I can't choose between a good camera and making my own kernels ;-;
I'm sure it won't be too long buddy
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Having bought all my devices over 6 months after they were released was probably much better for me than I ever realized xD
I'm tinkering with the idea of modding a stock FTF with root and whatnot and flashing it with flashtool. Anyone tried that yet? Or is everyone too busy looking for that one exploit they're unlikely to find?
EDIT: Back to the drawing board. Seems like things have changed a lot since I last took a look at an FTF.
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Having bought all my devices over 6 months after they were released was probably much better for me than I ever realized xD
I'm tinkering with the idea of modding a stock FTF with root and whatnot and flashing it with flashtool. Anyone tried that yet? Or is everyone too busy looking for that one exploit they're unlikely to find?
EDIT: Back to the drawing board. Seems like things have changed a lot since I last took a look at an FTF.
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you can make a prerooted firmware with prfcreator, but then its a flashable zip and we can only flash ftf files?
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you can make a prerooted firmware with prfcreator, but then its a flashable zip and we can only flash ftf files?
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Well considering most people don't want to unlock their bootloaders and miss out on the amazing camera, we can only flash FTFs (Sony-signed software).
(No system/boot write access, so finding an exploit is crucial.)
Looks like my Nokia 6210 will have to keep doing its job for a while