I'd like to send my phone back to HTC for repairs before selling it to get an M8, but I'm a little wary of doing so because the bootloader reads *** RELOCKED ***. I was unable to achieve S-OFF with this phone, so I can't set it to *** LOCKED ***. However, other than it being Relocked, it is 100% stock. Stock AT&T RUU with OTAs, S-ON, no Tampered flag. Like I said, I can't get S-OFF with my hboot, so I can't set it to Locked.
So, I either can sell it as is, or get a repaired/replaced phone from HTC before selling it. Have you guys sent phones back to HTC in non 100% stock condition? Would you recommend that I send my relocked phone back? I just don't want to get any grief from them. I'm going with the repair option that leaves you without a phone for ten days, but it's free. So I'd like my bill to remain at $0.
Any help/insight is very greatly appreciated.
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I'd like to send my phone back to HTC for repairs before selling it to get an M8, but I'm a little wary of doing so because the bootloader reads *** RELOCKED ***. I was unable to achieve S-OFF with this phone, so I can't set it to *** LOCKED ***. However, other than it being Relocked, it is 100% stock. Stock AT&T RUU with OTAs, S-ON, no Tampered flag. Like I said, I can't get S-OFF with my hboot, so I can't set it to Locked.
So, I either can sell it as is, or get a repaired/replaced phone from HTC before selling it. Have you guys sent phones back to HTC in non 100% stock condition? Would you recommend that I send my relocked phone back? I just don't want to get any grief from them. I'm going with the repair option that leaves you without a phone for ten days, but it's free. So I'd like my bill to remain at $0.
Any help/insight is very greatly appreciated.
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Nope, they will most likely charge you for repairs, relocked shows your bootloader was once unlocked, and as clearly stated on the unlocking page it says:
You are about to start the process of unlocking your device. Unlocking your device allows you to install custom Operating Systems (“OS”) onto your device. Custom OS’s are not tested as thoroughly as your original OS, and unlocking your device may void all or parts of your warranty. HTC disclaims any and all liability for proper functioning of your device after the bootloader has been unlocked and for data lost in the unlocking process. To prevent unauthorized access to your data, unlocking the bootloader will delete all personal data from your device including applications, text messages and personalized settings
In order to continue, please read and accept the following legal terms:
I acknowledge that use of the unlock bootloader may void all or parts of my warranty device and my device may not function as intended by HTC.
I acknowledge that, if my device requires repairs, HTC may charge for additional costs due to the unlocked bootloader.
Did you try to s-off using sunshine s-off ? http://theroot.ninja/
Seanie280672 said:
Nope, they will most likely charge you for repairs, relocked shows your bootloader was once unlocked, and as clearly stated on the unlocking page it says:
You are about to start the process of unlocking your device. Unlocking your device allows you to install custom Operating Systems (“OS”) onto your device. Custom OS’s are not tested as thoroughly as your original OS, and unlocking your device may void all or parts of your warranty. HTC disclaims any and all liability for proper functioning of your device after the bootloader has been unlocked and for data lost in the unlocking process. To prevent unauthorized access to your data, unlocking the bootloader will delete all personal data from your device including applications, text messages and personalized settings
In order to continue, please read and accept the following legal terms:
I acknowledge that use of the unlock bootloader may void all or parts of my warranty device and my device may not function as intended by HTC.
I acknowledge that, if my device requires repairs, HTC may charge for additional costs due to the unlocked bootloader.
Did you try to s-off using sunshine s-off ? http://theroot.ninja/
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I actually haven't tried that method of S-Off. But thanks for your info on HTC's policy. I suppose I'm just going to sell the phone as is, I'm not sure how much I want to go from fully stock to try to get S-Off again.
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I actually haven't tried that method of S-Off. But thanks for your info on HTC's policy. I suppose I'm just going to sell the phone as is, I'm not sure how much I want to go from fully stock to try to get S-Off again.
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no need to root or anything like that with sunshine s-off, just run it on stock, locked rom and it does everything for you, whilst its running, if its going to successfully work then you do have to pay for it, $25 I think it is.
Seanie280672 said:
no need to root or anything like that with sunshine s-off, just run it on stock, locked rom and it does everything for you, whilst its running, if its going to successfully work then you do have to pay for it, $25 I think it is.
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Huh. Well that makes my decision easier. On one hand, I'd love to get a repaired phone from HTC so i can sell it for more, but on the other hand, I could sell it as is and get not that much less for it. There are plenty of rooted and ROM'd phones on swappa, I'm sure something that's almost completely stock would be at least a bit more in demand. Thanks for the help though, I'll have to dwell on it.
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I picked the HTC One up from AT&T a few days ago, today I unlocked the bootloader and want to go back to the locked bootlader. Anyways I went back to the locked and now my device says TAMPERED*. How do I get rid of this?
Also, My device is recognized as a CWS_001
I think its if you have a custom kernel.
shizdan said:
I picked the HTC One up from AT&T a few days ago, today I unlocked the bootloader and want to go back to the locked bootlader. Anyways I went back to the locked and now my device says TAMPERED*. How do I get rid of this?
Also, My device is recognized as a CWS_001
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You can't, at least not yet.
With S-On, the One will say TAMPERED when you unlock the bootloader and if I remember correct when you re-lock it, it'll say RE-LOCKED.
It's not something to worry about, it is a measure on HTCs end for warranty issues I presume.
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Wow, this could be a ****ing HUGE determining factor for people buying this phone.
I don't get it... Why are people so surprised? Besides, you know the risk of unlocking...
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If you actually read what you agreed to when you unlocked the bootloader, you would have already known that re-locking the bootloader doesn't restore warranty or erase the evidence that you had unlocked it.
Long813 said:
You can't, at least not yet.
With S-On, the One will say TAMPERED when you unlock the bootloader and if I remember correct when you re-lock it, it'll say RE-LOCKED.
It's not something to worry about, it is a measure on HTCs end for warranty issues I presume.
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Wouldn't it say
**TAMPERED**
RE-LOCKED
I would be surprised if they removed the tampered warning just by relocking.
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Wouldn't it say
**TAMPERED**
RE-LOCKED
I would be surprised if they removed the tampered warning just by relocking.
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Following posts around here seem to say that to be true. Your last sentence seems to contradict the above though?
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Following posts around here seem to say that to be true. Your last sentence seems to contradict the above though?
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I haven't (yet) unlocked my One, I was actually asking if anyone had relocked their device and could confirm that the "**TAMPERED**" goes away.
It makes no sense for HTC to do this, because someone could really mess up the ROM contents and then relock the device.
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I haven't (yet) unlocked my One, I was actually asking if anyone had relocked their device and could confirm that the "**TAMPERED**" goes away.
It makes no sense for HTC to do this, because someone could really mess up the ROM contents and then relock the device.
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Oh, you misread my post then.
It will still say TAMPERED. But, in addition too, it will say RELOCKED. I also recall reading past HTC devices where they were able to get the TAMPERED title to go away, but it would still say RELOCKED, so the end result is the same.
Once the bootloader is unlocked, there is no way to go back to 100% factory, yet, until there is away to get S-off.
Viewing the XDA article though, unlocking/rooting your device won't void your warranty, and you can get a stock rom back on your device if you end up screwing something up.
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Oh, you misread my post then.
It will still say TAMPERED. But, in addition too, it will say RELOCKED. I also recall reading past HTC devices where they were able to get the TAMPERED title to go away, but it would still say RELOCKED, so the end result is the same.
Once the bootloader is unlocked, there is no way to go back to 100% factory, yet, until there is away to get S-off.
Viewing the XDA article though, unlocking/rooting your device won't void your warranty, and you can get a stock rom back on your device if you end up screwing something up.
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Yes, HTC is pretty good about repairing their hardware, unless they can confirm that what the user did was directly responsible for the failure. I haven't unlocked mine yet because I'm pretty satisfied with the stock ROM. I'm hoping for an update to get rid of the "menu button" issue though...
This is the first HTC phone I haven't unlocked and flashed. Yet.
It sua tempered when there's an unsigned kernel/recovery still on the phone... If you flash stock recovery/kernel and relock then the tampered will go away.
But s-off is what we need to rewrite those flags
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Long store short: HTCDev site allows for easy unlocking but it requires the user to enter a token that marks them in their system as having an unlocked bootloader, thereby allowing them to void your warranty in cases where software modifications had no play in hardware faults.
The problem: Revone grants S-Off but I heard from an XDA thread stating that the new OTA update for the HTC One might have patched this exploit; the current and only RUU available is this current version. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2375223&page=14) I have accidentally reset my phone before and it actually downgrades this update, making it possible for the Revone exploit to work.
So here is my plan to bypass this (This is my first time playing with an Android phone so I'm not sure if this would even work.):
1.) Reset phone to out-of-box version.
2.) Backup stock ROM. (Don't know if this is possible without root; if not, then my plan is screwed.)
3.) Use Revone to obtain S-Off,
4.) Change MID and CID, then flash Google Play Edition RUU.
5.) Unlock bootloader via "fastboot oem unlock" to bypass HTCDev unlock.
To Revert Back to Stock:
6.) Use Revone to remove "tampered" and change "unlocked" to "locked." (not "re-locked")
(Another method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2044670)
7.) Flash the backup of the stock ROM.
8.) Remove S-Off with "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3."
(Not sure if this works but the source is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25173401)
9.) Send back to HTC with an active warranty.
Could this theoretically work? Sorry about the noob-ness; I use to be an iSheep so forgive my ignorance if all of this is just complete crap.
Edit: The point of this is to keep the version of stock ROM that is exploitable with Revone so S-Off can be obtained once more. If unless someone can confirm that the current T-Mobile RUU is exploitable.
This will only work if you're not on the new boatloader before you try to s-off.
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I don't know of a way you will be able to backup the stock ROM without having a custom recovery which requires an unlock. At least backing up everything system/data as you alluded. It would require CWR or TWRP.
You also will be required to change your MID and CID back as well before going stock, I'll admit its a little dangerous but everything except the backup seems sound.
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You're making this complicated for no reason :S Get S-Off, flash stock rom found on Android Development forum, send it to HTC S-Off, they don't care. They have bigger issues at the moment anyway, what with losing half their design team.
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Long store short: HTCDev site allows for easy unlocking but it requires the user to enter a token that marks them in their system as having an unlocked bootloader, thereby allowing them to void your warranty in cases where software modifications had no play in hardware faults.
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I believe your basic premise that unlocking your bootloader via HTCDev website method leads to your warranty becoming void is incorrect.
The following article explains in some detail why your warranty remains intact
http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/unlocking-bootloader-or-flashing-custom.html?m=1
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paul_59 said:
I believe your basic premise that unlocking your bootloader via HTCDev website method leads to your warranty becoming void is incorrect.
The following article explains in some detail why your warranty remains intact
http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/unlocking-bootloader-or-flashing-custom.html?m=1
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Unfortunately, HTC Repair Centres will void warranty if they see it is unlocked or tampered, and the article you linked is old and cannot be used as fact. Many people have had their warranties voided because of this. Sure, go sue HTC, but you will spend a lot of time, effort and cash doing that
Yes they can and will void your warranty, you knew the risks with unlocking the bootloader...should do your your
Research more in depth.
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Matt said:
Unfortunately, HTC Repair Centres will void warranty if they see it is unlocked or tampered, and the article you linked is old and cannot be used as fact. Many people have had their warranties voided because of this. Sure, go sue HTC, but you will spend a lot of time, effort and cash doing that
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Most countries will have some form of consumer protection legislation, your legal rights will obviously vary from country to country.
In the the UK it's covered by the Sale of goods act . Throughout the rest of Europe there is equivalent legislation under a EU directive
There is no need for anyone to sue HTC or other company in order to obtain your legal right of redress should goods that you have bought new subsequently become faulty.
I am certain that USA and numerous other countries will have similar legislation.
I have read many posts on xda from people who reported that their phone had been repaired or replaced, having previously unlocked via HTC dev .
If you and others choose to believe otherwise, then that's fine with me, I just feel that what I sincerely believe is a misinformed opinion shouldn't go unchallenged.
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Matt said:
Unfortunately, HTC Repair Centres will void warranty if they see it is unlocked or tampered, and the article you linked is old and cannot be used as fact. Many people have had their warranties voided because of this. Sure, go sue HTC, but you will spend a lot of time, effort and cash doing that
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I've actually just returned mine and I had no way to remove the tampered flag etc but they didn't bill me ... They didn't fix it either though lol, they said they'd changed the camera but the same fault still exists.
I spoke to a guy at HTC and he basically said your warranty would only be void if the fault was caused as a result of something you flashed or as a result of unlocking the bootloader (he mentioned the motherboard specifically). The problem I have is that I don't trust them enough to send it back again, I'd already been without it for 2 weeks and after all that it wasn't any different. My main concern though is that they could tell me the warranty was void and I couldn't do a thing but pay £25 to get me phone returned to me, un-repaired, or pay them to repair it, both are out of the question lol
You are over complicating the process. Assuming you are able to obtain s-off, as it is impossible for some one owners currently, use revone to s-off. Revone can also unlock the boot loader, so no need for htcdev at all.
If you want a GPe one, flash the ruu zip. If not, don't. But remember, if you just want GPe, you can flash a ROM. The ruu zip contains all the firmware too for a full conversion. You should change cid if you do it, to get ota's, but mid change is unnecessary.
When getting ready to return for warranty, if necessary, flash an official RUU.exe. You will need to lock your boot loader for this, and again, revone has a tool built in to lock it, not relock. You will not need to reset the tampered flag, because being s-off prior to flashing the custom recovery for the first time causes your phone to never run the security checks that flag it as tampered in the first place. Remember to change your cid to match the RUU.exe that you flashed. And leave the phone s-off when you turn it in. It may return in a state where you could not re s-off it. Also a few devices made it into the market this way, so they can not use it as a basis for voiding your warranty.
TL;DR:
Revone elimates the need to use HTCDev completely.
Do or don't flash GPe, that's up to you, but not a necessity.
An RUU will bring your phone completely back to stock, no need for backup.
Leave it s-off when you send it in.
Edit;
When I say no need for a backup, I mean if you're s-off and if you only need to get your device to 100% out of the box condition.
If you're playing around and flashing this and that, by all means, backup, backup, backup. You will be happy you did when you have to use one and don't need to start from the ground up.
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Matt said:
Unfortunately, HTC Repair Centres will void warranty if they see it is unlocked or tampered, and the article you linked is old and cannot be used as fact. Many people have had their warranties voided because of this. Sure, go sue HTC, but you will spend a lot of time, effort and cash doing that
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They've always replaced and repaired my rooted/tampered phones, including HTC One.
hello guys will im currently not rooted for the warranty but there is one thing that bothers me
about the htcdev.com
can my warranty (company, provider, or whatever they called)
check in anyway that i had unlocked the bootloader before
and is the unlcok.bin code linked with my device only (the unlock code when proceeding in unlocking)
dont know why this is coming into my mind
and another question where does the nandroid backup located in twrp and CWM
in future when i reroot the device i want to do a nandroid backup for it
Iloudsan said:
can my warranty (company, provider, or whatever they called)
check in anyway that i had unlocked the bootloader before
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If your bootloader says unlocked or relocked they will know you have unlocked the bootloader. Also "tampered" flag must not shown in the bootloader. Its possible to remove the tampered flag and set the bootloader back to locked (not re-locked) with S-OFF. So if you can achieve s-off there is nothing to worry about.
and is the unlcok.bin code linked with my device only (the unlock code when proceeding in unlocking)
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in theory yes, your unlock_code.bin is generated from your phone unlock_token, but never heard of someone who wasn't able to claim warranty because he have unlocked bootloader (with bootloader locked and no tampered flag ---> s-off required)
In some rare cases, HTC doesnt care about unlocked bootloader if its 100% sure the issue wasn't caused by the bootloader being unlocked. It depends which service center. Always better to send the phone Locked + no tampered flag.
and another question where does the nandroid backup located in twrp and CWM
in future when i reroot the device i want to do a nandroid backup for it
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TWRP backup are stored at
/sdcard/TWRP/BACKUPS/YOUR_PHONE_SERIAL_NUMBER/DATE_OF_BACKUP/
or if you prefer:
/data/media/0/TWRP/BACKUPS/YOUR_PHONE_SERIAL_NUMBER/DATE_OF_BACKUP/
not sure about cwm, probably something similar.
alray said:
If your bootloader says unlocked or relocked they will know you have unlocked the bootloader. Also "tampered" flag must not shown in the bootloader. Its possible to remove the tampered flag and set the bootloader back to locked (not re-locked) with S-OFF. So if you can achieve s-off there is nothing to worry about.
in theory yes, your unlock_code.bin is generated from your phone unlock_token, but never heard of someone who wasn't able to claim warranty because he have unlocked bootloader (with bootloader locked and no tampered flag ---> s-off required)
In some rare cases, HTC doesnt care about unlocked bootloader if its 100% sure the issue wasn't caused by the bootloader being unlocked. It depends which service center. Always better to send the phone Locked + no tampered flag.
TWRP backup are stored at
/sdcard/TWRP/BACKUPS/YOUR_PHONE_SERIAL_NUMBER/DATE_OF_BACKUP/
or if you prefer:
/data/media/0/TWRP/BACKUPS/YOUR_PHONE_SERIAL_NUMBER/DATE_OF_BACKUP/
not sure about cwm, probably something similar.
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thank you, my phne bootloader is locked not relocked but locked and s-on and no tempered flag
i will use another email in my phone in case they want to check that if i had registered in htcdev before
dont know why im that scared
i have a cracked camera
i heard that htc will probably give a replacement if anything happens to the camera is this right?
of course with paying for the camera price
I don't understand one thing. Even if it's possible to completely lock back the bootloader, what is the point, since htc would know that you have already unlocked the bootloader using their bin file. Wouldn't it still void the warranty even if you relock the bootloader.
shad0wboss said:
I don't understand one thing. Even if it's possible to completely lock back the bootloader, what is the point, since htc would know that you have already unlocked the bootloader using their bin file. Wouldn't it still void the warranty even if you relock the bootloader.
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get S Off then use " Guru bootloader reset tool" remove Tempered and Lock bootloader warranty will come back HTC won't ask you if phone show locked
If relocked is there means no warranty
shad0wboss said:
I don't understand one thing. Even if it's possible to completely lock back the bootloader, what is the point, since htc would know that you have already unlocked the bootloader using their bin file. Wouldn't it still void the warranty even if you relock the bootloader.
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It would seem that it would, but their disclaimer states "may or may not" void the warranty. If it is "Locked" with no "Tampered" there is always the possibility that they may not look or search to see if you unlocked the bootloader. I would rather have it look as if it was never unlocked than leave it unlocked and remove all doubt!
majmoz said:
It would seem that it would, but their disclaimer states "may or may not" void the warranty. If it is "Locked" with no "Tampered" there is always the possibility that they may not look or search to see if you unlocked the bootloader. I would rather have it look as if it was never unlocked than leave it unlocked and remove all doubt!
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Also, is it worth flashing or custom roms here are as good as stock. I just don't like sense, specially the lockscreen on 6
shad0wboss said:
Also, is it worth flashing or custom roms here are as good as stock. I just don't like sense, specially the lockscreen on 6
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flashing custom rom worth it if the stock rom doesn't fit your needs. You'll have to read some custom rom threads and try a few to get an idea of what rom you prefer as "which rom is better" discussions are not allowed in this forum.
For your bootloader question, If you send back the phone for warranty repair, and the bootload is LOCKED (not relocked) and everything else is stock, there is 99% chances HTC will honor the warranty without any question. And even if they know that you have requested an unlock_code.bin from HTCdev.com , how are they supposed to known if you have used it or not? Maybe you have requested a code, and you have changed your mind.... HTC said that unlocking the bootloader may void warranty, not that requesting an unlock code void the warranty
alray said:
flashing custom rom worth it if the stock rom doesn't fit your needs. You'll have to read some custom rom threads and try a few to get an idea of what rom you prefer as "which rom is better" discussions are not allowed in this forum.
For your bootloader question, If you send back the phone for warranty repair, and the bootload is LOCKED (not relocked) and everything else is stock, there is 99% chances HTC will honor the warranty without any question. And even if they know that you have requested an unlock_code.bin from HTCdev.com , how are they supposed to known if you have used it or not? Maybe you have requested a code, and you have changed your mind.... HTC said that unlocking the bootloader may void warranty, not that requesting an unlock code void the warranty
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I see. On a side note, can i unlock-root then flash a rom (4.2.2) and then s-off? even though i'm on 4.4.2 at the moment.
shad0wboss said:
I see. On a side note, can i unlock-root then flash a rom (4.2.2) and then s-off? even though i'm on 4.4.2 at the moment.
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yes you can unlock, root and flash a rom. if you want to s-off you might be able to do it using firewater s-off. If firewater fails, then sunshine should works, but sunshine is a paid exploit, don't remember the exact price, I think its around 20-25$. S-off can also be achieved with a java card (fonefunshop.com)
alray said:
yes you can unlock, root and flash a rom. if you want to s-off you might be able to do it using firewater s-off. If firewater fails, then sunshine should works, but sunshine is a paid exploit, don't remember the exact price, I think its around 20-25$
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I was wondering because my hboot is 1.57 and many are having trouble so if i unlock and then find out that it doesn't work then i'll have warranty issues...
shad0wboss said:
I was wondering because my hboot is 1.57 and many are having trouble so if i unlock and then find out that it doesn't work then i'll have warranty issues...
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exactly....
firewater may not works (50-50) but afaik, sunshine should work (not tested it myself, better to check the official thread). In last resort, the java card method from fonefunshop.com will work. firewater is free, sunshine cost 25$ iirc and fonefunshop.com cost £14.99 + shipping to UK
Sunshine works on all m7 phones. You may need a stock Rom or at least stock kernel but it will work. Try Firewater first but most people don't have any luck with it these days
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Sunshine works on all m7 phones. You may need a stock Rom or at least stock kernel but it will work. Try Firewater first but most people don't have any luck with it these days
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Yeah well i ain't paying for an exploit
Guess i'll stay stock until a hero emerges and updates firewater.
I have heard that some of the phones are being shipped with unlocked bootloader? So i was wondering if i unlock bootloader but don't manager to S-OFF it, does it void my warranty?
shad0wboss said:
I have heard that some of the phones are being shipped with unlocked bootloader? So i was wondering if i unlock bootloader but don't manager to S-OFF it, does it void my warranty?
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Developer editions are shipped with an unlocked bootloader. If your phone is not a dev edition, unlocking its bootloader may void your warranty as explained at htcdev.com/bootloader
shad0wboss said:
I have heard that some of the phones are being shipped with unlocked bootloader? So i was wondering if i unlock bootloader but don't manager to S-OFF it, does it void my warranty?
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also, as I found out a few days ago, when having a live chat with HTC customer services about the 5.1 update, as soon as they get your serial number, they know everything about your phone, so if you s-off'd it and converted to to dev edition, they know it was sent out and shipped as a 401 phone, ie. WWE europe by your IMEI or serial number, they can still refuse a warranty repair as they know you converted / messed with it yourself.
ps. we will get 5.1, they wouldnt say if it was with sense 6 or 7, and ETA is still unknown, 5.0 is still shipping.
Seanie280672 said:
also, as I found out a few days ago, when having a live chat with HTC customer services about the 5.1 update, as soon as they get your serial number, they know everything about your phone, so if you s-off'd it and converted to to dev edition, they know it was sent out and shipped as a 401 phone, ie. WWE europe by your IMEI or serial number, they can still refuse a warranty repair as they know you converted / messed with it yourself.
ps. we will get 5.1, they wouldnt say if it was with sense 6 or 7, and ETA is still unknown, 5.0 is still shipping.
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Well, S-OFF and just locking bootloader later before repair might still void my warranty as they'll know that i, at some point, unlocked the phone...So why bother locking bootloader?
Also I'm on lollipop and i heard that sunshine doesn't S-OFF on lollipop and trying would mean that i'll have to unlock bootloader first which may turn out to be a fail attempt... GAH HTC.....
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Well, S-OFF and just locking bootloader later before repair might still void my warranty as they'll know that i, at some point, unlocked the phone...So why bother locking bootloader?
Also I'm on lollipop and i heard that sunshine doesn't S-OFF on lollipop and trying would mean that i'll have to unlock bootloader first which may turn out to be a fail attempt... GAH HTC.....
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technically yes, but im not so sure they actually record or bother looking up whether you unlocked your bootloader or not, plenty of people have returned their phone back to 100% stock, removed the flags, locked the bootloader, gone s-on and had their phones repaired by HTC under warranty.
As for sunshine, no it doesnt yet support lollipop, and if your on Lollipop and locked, why would you want to unlock and s-off at the moment ? I understand it has some bugs still, but its still the best yet (in my opinion), however, ive never used sunshine myself, but i think you can run it on a locked bootloader, im sure I read it does everything for you, unlocks and s-off's.
Seanie280672 said:
technically yes, but im not so sure they actually record or bother looking up whether you unlocked your bootloader or not, plenty of people have returned their phone back to 100% stock, removed the flags, locked the bootloader, gone s-on and had their phones repaired by HTC under warranty.
As for sunshine, no it doesnt yet support lollipop, and if your on Lollipop and locked, why would you want to unlock and s-off at the moment ? I understand it has some bugs still, but its still the best yet (in my opinion), however, ive never used sunshine myself, but i think you can run it on a locked bootloader, im sure I read it does everything for you, unlocks and s-off's.
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Yes, sunshine does (recently) support lollipop. Version 3.0.3 is available.
Change Log
Version 3.0.3
Fixed two "Unexpected Errors"
Fixed one SuperSu Hang
Fixed HTC CDMA TempRoot Crash
Fix paypal crash
Added Mini2/Remix (s400) support
Now supporting all 4.4.4 HTC
Now supporting all rootable 5.0.x HTC
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