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I was wondering how wifi calling is going to work with the Nexus 6. Tmobile said that wifi calling is coming to the Nexus 6 early 2015 via an OTA update. Will the Nexus 6 from the play store also be able to receive this update and be able to use wifi calling?
raazman said:
I was wondering how wifi calling is going to work with the Nexus 6. Tmobile said that wifi calling is coming to the Nexus 6 early 2015 via an OTA update. Will the Nexus 6 from the play store also be able to receive this update and be able to use wifi calling?
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Since all the US carriers will have the same SKU, it's literally the exact same phone for all carriers. So there's no way they can tell where you purchased it, all the OTAs will be handled by Google.
What's likely happening is that Google is still finishing up the code for a generic wifi calling API (a lot of code is likely shared with VoLTE if I had to take a guess). When it detects a T-mobile SIM it will setup T-mobile's variant of wifi calling. Same for Sprint and any other carrier that rolls out wifi calling. So even if you aren't using T-mobile you'll get support for their wifi calling when that OTA is released. It just won't be activated unless you have a T-mobile SIM inserted.
It's going to be a similar case to support VoLTE on different carriers, since as of right now each implementation is incompatible with the others. It would be smart for Google to make a generic API for this so it's quicker/easier to add support for new carriers.
Ingenium13 said:
Since all the US carriers will have the same SKU, it's literally the exact same phone for all carriers. So there's no way they can tell where you purchased it, all the OTAs will be handled by Google.
What's likely happening is that Google is still finishing up the code for a generic wifi calling API (a lot of code is likely shared with VoLTE if I had to take a guess). When it detects a T-mobile SIM it will setup T-mobile's variant of wifi calling. Same for Sprint and any other carrier that rolls out wifi calling. So even if you aren't using T-mobile you'll get support for their wifi calling when that OTA is released. It just won't be activated unless you have a T-mobile SIM inserted.
It's going to be a similar case to support VoLTE on different carriers, since as of right now each implementation is incompatible with the others. It would be smart for Google to make a generic API for this so it's quicker/easier to add support for new carriers.
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Alright, that sounds pretty simple. Thanks!
On a separate note, I wonder if once it is enabled, if someone would be able to modify the N6 so it can bypass the WiFi calls going against your minutes, like how you can get around WiFi Hotspot checker on the N5 by editing the Database file. It probably isn't even possible on WiFi calls, but we do have some pretty smart people around these forums, so I'll stay hopeful for a bit. I have the $30 "unlimited data" plan with 100 minutes. Would be nice if I could bypass that 100 minutes by using WiFi calling somehow.
charesa39 said:
On a separate note, I wonder if once it is enabled, if someone would be able to modify the N6 so it can bypass the WiFi calls going against your minutes, like how you can get around WiFi Hotspot checker on the N5. It probably isn't even possible on WiFi calls, but we do have some pretty smart people around these forums, so I'll stay hopeful for a bit. I have the $30 "unlimited data" plan with 100 minutes. Would be nice if I could bypass that 100 minutes by using WiFi calling somehow.
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I am on sprint and will get my N6 when it come out. I'm hoping they do the same for sprint as well for WiFi calling support. I know that on sprint they don't count against ur minutes or text... And sprint has unlimited LTE ...
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charesa39 said:
On a separate note, I wonder if once it is enabled, if someone would be able to modify the N6 so it can bypass the WiFi calls going against your minutes, like how you can get around WiFi Hotspot checker on the N5 by editing the Database file. It probably isn't even possible on WiFi calls, but we do have some pretty smart people around these forums, so I'll stay hopeful for a bit. I have the $30 "unlimited data" plan with 100 minutes. Would be nice if I could bypass that 100 minutes by using WiFi calling somehow.
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Why don't you use hangouts to call?
raazman said:
Why don't you use hangouts to call?
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I currently do on my N5. However, the quality is usually dependent on who I'm calling and where they are. It's rarely a problem on my end since I have really fast data connections at home and virtually anywhere I go. For example, my parents' WiFi router is in a bedroom at the opposite end of the house from where the living room is. So when I call them, even though I have a strong WiFi signal, their's isn't very good, so the call quality diminishes a bit. It would be great if I could use my WiFi signal and call their actual cell phone number (or house phone) so their is no drop in quality, without eating into my minutes.
Sprint has WiFi calling on some models already also so it's probably close to the same for all
charesa39 said:
I currently do on my N5. However, the quality is usually dependent on who I'm calling and where they are. It's rarely a problem on my end since I have really fast data connections at home and virtually anywhere I go. For example, my parents' WiFi router is in a bedroom at the opposite end of the house from where the living room is. So when I call them, even though I have a strong WiFi signal, their's isn't very good, so the call quality diminishes a bit. It would be great if I could use my WiFi signal and call their actual cell phone number (or house phone) so their is no drop in quality, without eating into my minutes.
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Use hangouts to place a call over Wi-Fi to their cell phones?
joshua.justice said:
Use hangouts to place a call over Wi-Fi to their cell phones?
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Don't you have to have a Google Voice number for that, which you have to pay for? The whole thing would be not having to pay anything more than what I'm paying now. Don't get me wrong, I'm not hurting for minutes, but it would be nice to have free WiFi calling/minutes available if necessary.
charesa39 said:
Don't you have to have a Google Voice number for that, which you have to pay for? The whole thing would be not having to pay anything more than what I'm paying now. Don't get me wrong, I'm not hurting for minutes, but it would be nice to have free WiFi calling/minutes available if necessary.
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It's free in the USA to call to landline.
Edit: https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/3187125?hl=en
raazman said:
It's free in the USA to call to landline.
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WHAT?!?!?! I feel like my whole life has been a lie!!! Haha! But in all seriousness, I thought that was only for people with Google Voice numbers. But after doing a quick Google search, it looks like you only need a GV number to RECEIVE said calls. Wow. I feel so dumb right about now. Thanks for enlightening me, guys!
I have been told that the M9 does not support advanced wifi calling. I'm not sure about my terminology, but what I mean is that it cannot hand a wifi call off to the LTE/HSPA network.
However I have just finished demonstrating that it does hand off without dropping the call, and to the HSPA network. I had noticed this behavior the other day, but in a discussion in an article on fiercewireless, i was told this is technically impossible.
My M9 is set to wifi calling, wifi preferred, and when I make the call in the driveway, the dialer says "wifi call", the call connects and the phone icon in the statusbar is green, and the phone beeps at me with a message that I'm near the edge of the wifi calling area and the call may drop. I drive away, the call never drops, the beeping/message stop, and the green phone icon in the statusbar becomes white. And I'm connected to "4G", not 4G LTE.
Who told you it didn't support it?
I myself, don't like the feature. Especially when I have little to no service, it'll constantly be searching for service(draining my battery) when I'm connected with WiFi calling.
Hoping it'll be able to be disabled in custom ROMs.
I think the screen name was Fabian and it was in the discussion about Sprint offering the international data like T-Mobile. He seems to be knowledgeable and was adamant that this is not possible. I think he said it's only possible on the iPhone 6. Aside from that, I myself thought it was impossible for a WiFi to hspa handoff, yet this is what I'm seeing.
Hopefully they make it official since it does work
I'm pretty sure I read that this was a new feature. . . I'll look for the source I read this from.
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It's a new feature with the S810.
Wish it'd give you the option...
just wondering
Have u guys seen the aggressive Wi-Fi to cellular handover setting in developer settings?
not sure what to think I never use Wi-Fi call just thought I'd share. Because it might help those that have calls dropped. Worth a shot to check the box and try.
T-Mobile (re)enabled wifi/cell handoff with Uncarrier 8 several months ago. A decent LTE connection is required for the handoff but nearly every LTE handset can do so (coming to the Nexus 6 Real Soon Now.)
The Sprint person is incorrect, but a their wifi calling implementation is, quite frankly, bizarre, so I'm not surprised at their being clueless over T-Mobile's.
Nothing unique about the HTC One m9's wifi calling except it being on a really great handset.
AT&T flipped the switch on WiFi calling today, I now have it working on my work iphone. How do I enable this on my S6? I'm stuck using an M-Cell due to poor coverage and would love to scrap that thing in favor of WiFi calling, I just can't find the appropriate settings.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...t-root-mods-enabling-hidden-features-t3110223
The answer is here, if you're rooted. If not, I believe you're what they refer to as SOL. Wifi calling is only officially for iPhones atm.
has anyone managed to get wifi calling to work on tmobile on marshmallow? i bought my phone directly from motorola and they claim that is part of the problem but looking at multiple other threads on tmo's support website, that isnt the issue as other people are able to get it to work
i just get a constant error that i am not connected to wifi, but i am
im running MRA58K
thanks
joshtb86 said:
has anyone managed to get wifi calling to work on tmobile on marshmallow? i bought my phone directly from motorola and they claim that is part of the problem but looking at multiple other threads on tmo's support website, that isnt the issue as other people are able to get it to work
i just get a constant error that i am not connected to wifi, but i am
im running MRA58K
thanks
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No problems using Cataclysm and elementalX kernel, at home it says "wifi calling" on the quick tiles and when on a call. Maybe try a different modem? Or if rooted try a different kernel.
joshtb86 said:
has anyone managed to get wifi calling to work on tmobile on marshmallow? i bought my phone directly from motorola and they claim that is part of the problem but looking at multiple other threads on tmo's support website, that isnt the issue as other people are able to get it to work
i just get a constant error that i am not connected to wifi, but i am
im running MRA58K
thanks
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works just fine here on my n6, jdx rom and despair kernel.
Using stock kernel, just updated to 5.1.1 radio from tmo, also tried 5.1and 5.0withno luck
im using the 27R radio on marshmallow
Sucessful wifi calling
joshtb86 said:
has anyone managed to get wifi calling to work on tmobile on marshmallow? i bought my phone directly from motorola and they claim that is part of the problem but looking at multiple other threads on tmo's support website, that isnt the issue as other people are able to get it to work
i just get a constant error that i am not connected to wifi, but i am
im running MRA58K
thanks
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I was able to get it to work by flashing stock "shamu-mra58n-factory-bffc99bb" from Google. I flashed the bootloader, radio and system.
which radio is 27r
joshtb86 said:
which radio is 27r
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its a marshmallow radio
I'm running stock MRA58R, no root, fresh from the factory images. T-Mobile WiFi calling works perfectly.
I'm stock rooted, and it works, but I wouldn't say it works well. I even have a CellSpot at home and it's a little wonky. It doesn't seem to hold it's connection (wifi calling connection that is, wifi itself is fine).
I was at a cabin this past weekend where there is no T-Mobile signal and wifi calling didn't work for MMS at all. I was able to send normal SMS texts and stuff, but MMS (group messages) didn't come through at all. I didn't get all the messages until I was back on the interstate on the way back home.
Part of the reason I upgraded to the N6 from the N5 was because of wifi calling and it doesn't work all that well to be honest. I've had many times, even at home (cell spot router), where MMS messages fail to send. Receiving seems to be just fine, but sending seems to be problematic.
I bought my N6 from Amazon back when they were $350 new a month to six weeks ago, whenever that was, so it wasn't from T-Mobile directly, but that's not supposed to matter.
spimonkey34 said:
I'm running stock MRA58R, no root, fresh from the factory images. T-Mobile WiFi calling works perfectly.
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did you get your phone directly from tmo or elsewhere?
ive now tried every different radio without luck, doiuble checked every single setting to ensure everything was appropriate
called tmobile several times - everything is correct on their end
Do you have a E911 address on your T-Mo account? If not, add it to the account, and then try.
What is the exact error message?
jj14 said:
Do you have a E911 address on your T-Mo account? If not, add it to the account, and then try.
What is the exact error message?
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i do have it set
"turn off airplane mode or connect to a wireless network to make a call"
is the message
when i try to use wifi calling with airplane mode on and connected to any wireless network
when im on the cellular network, it only uses celluar network, no HD calls and no WIFI calls
WiFi calling is working for me, except whenever its enabled it slows the WiFi way down. I ended up just getting the 4G LTE cellspot for $25 so I have really good Band 4 LTE signal for calls and can keep the WiFi running at full speed.
nnorton44 said:
WiFi calling is working for me, except whenever its enabled it slows the WiFi way down. I ended up just getting the 4G LTE cellspot for $25 so I have really good Band 4 LTE signal for calls and can keep the WiFi running at full speed.
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Are you using the TMO router too? When I asked at the store about the LTE CellSpot, they said I would have to turn in my router, as you can only have one or the other.
JimSmith94 said:
Are you using the TMO router too? When I asked at the store about the LTE CellSpot, they said I would have to turn in my router, as you can only have one or the other.
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I don't have the router. And I do believe you can only use one or the other.
I already have a nice router so that wasn't a problem.
I have been very happy with the LTE cellspot I get full LTE signal in a pretty big house.
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nnorton44 said:
I don't have the router. And I do believe you can only use one or the other.
I already have a nice router so that wasn't a problem.
I have been very happy with the LTE cellspot I get full LTE signal in a pretty big house.
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Thanks for the quick response! My TMO router was a big improvement to my previous one, and I don't see any slowdown when using WiFi calling with it, so I guess I'll just stick with what I have.
JimSmith94 said:
Thanks for the quick response! My TMO router was a big improvement to my previous one, and I don't see any slowdown when using WiFi calling with it, so I guess I'll just stick with what I have.
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Yep sounds like the best decision.
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HI all,
As noted in the product pages and other information about the 5a, its being sold directly via Google. Has anyone ever figured out how to add WIFI calling to these devices?
I am under the impression if you want wifi calling on a certain network you MUST purchase a phone from that network (IE pixels, Samsungs etc).
I didn't really think about it. It "just works" for me on Mint, an MVNO on T-Mobile. I did use the USB-cable based method to migrate settings from the old phone to the pixel 5a before moving my SIM. But I don't think that was needed.
I was already using it w/ a previous phone, having gone to the Mint website to get the feature provisioned for my subscription. That phone was a retail phone I bought direct from Motorola, also not connected to Mint nor T-Mobile in any way. Originally, Once I provisioned it at Mint, the WiFi-Calling settings became available under Network settings in the phone.
Wifi Calling is working fine on Verizon.
Worked on AT&T pretty smoothly. Flipped the Wi-Fi calling switch under settings. Agreed to some at&t custom pages about 911, and 10 seconds later was calling on wifi.
Haven't been able to enable wifi calling with AT&T. Getting error EDS0060.
My T-Mobile US is working with wifi and 5g, no problems. I bought from Google to avoid crapware and locks from TMO.
I looked for the Wifi switch under settings and had none. It was the same with my Pixel 3a as well, and I am using Cricket. Signal at work sux so wfi calling would be good. I'm not there very often.
Still would be nice to have.
reidcc said:
I looked for the Wifi switch under settings and had none. It was the same with my Pixel 3a as well, and I am using Cricket. Signal at work sux so wfi calling would be good. I'm not there very often.
Still would be nice to have.
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They hide it well - they don't want people to turn it off as it saves them a lot of bandwidth if everyone connects through their own wifi instead of a cell tower. Go to Settings/Network & internet/ then hold down Mobile Network for a bit, then go to bottom and select Advanced and look towards the bottom for Wifi Calling.
CarinaPDX said:
They hide it well - they don't want people to turn it off as it saves them a lot of bandwidth if everyone connects through their own wifi instead of a cell tower. Go to Settings/Network & internet/ then hold down Mobile Network for a bit, then go to bottom and select Advanced and look towards the bottom for Wifi Calling.
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Thank You! I didn't realize you needed to hold the Mobile networks for a bit. Last time I just tapped it, went to advanced and nada. This time I found the switch and started activating wifi calling but errored out. I'll ty again later.
reidcc said:
Thank You! I didn't realize you needed to hold the Mobile networks for a bit. Last time I just tapped it, went to advanced and nada. This time I found the switch and started activating wifi calling but errored out. I'll ty again later.
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I don't think I can help further. Cricket is AT&T and does support wifi calling; the Pixel should be able to support their version. OTOH it may not be supported with your SIM card - if it is old you may want to see if you can get a new SIM card - just one possibility. There is a reason that wifi calling was not "on" by default. Edit: I assume your 5a came direct from Google, as mine did. Phones sold by network operators do have some modifications.