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I admit it, I'm a noob. Now once all the finger pointing and snikering subsides, I have a question........well maybe more of an opinion poll. I recently upgraded from a Motorola Droid Pro to a Motorola Droid 4. I did not root my pro because I was afraid of bricking it and now with the 4 I have the same concerns. The only reasons for my interest in rooting is: getting rid of "bloatware", battery life improvement (if possible), speed, and in general just because it can be done (for the "stick it to the man" enjoyment) Is rooting my Droid 4 a good option for me for no more than what I'm looking to do with a rooted phone? FYI I have never rooted any device and I do not want to do it if I can never go back to stock.
andyshowfan said:
I admit it, I'm a noob. Now once all the finger pointing and snikering subsides, I have a question........well maybe more of an opinion poll. I recently upgraded from a Motorola Droid Pro to a Motorola Droid 4. I did not root my pro because I was afraid of bricking it and now with the 4 I have the same concerns. The only reasons for my interest in rooting is: getting rid of "bloatware", battery life improvement (if possible), speed, and in general just because it can be done (for the "stick it to the man" enjoyment) Is rooting my Droid 4 a good option for me for no more than what I'm looking to do with a rooted phone? FYI I have never rooted any device and I do not want to do it if I can never go back to stock.
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I say go for it. Rooting the D4 is pretty painless using the D4 Utility, even for a "noob". If you root you can use something like Titanium Backup Pro to freeze bloatware (don't delete it) which could, potentially, help you in terms of battery life and speed. Just rooting is pretty risk free. You are still technically on stock and OTA updates will still work just fine. Just use the RootKeeper app to keep root when accepting an OTA. You start to worry about bricking when you get into flashing custom ROMs and leak builds. Although the D4 has proven pretty hard brick.
.............Although the D4 has proven pretty hard brick.
Meaning ........."proven pretty hard to brick"?
andyshowfan said:
.............Although the D4 has proven pretty hard brick.
Meaning ........."proven pretty hard to brick"?
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Yes. Hard TO brick. LOL
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kwyrt said:
Although the D4 has proven pretty hard brick.
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I think that was more the D1. I remember when I was doing some research into buying one (back when it was new), and someone on a forum making a joke that they dropped their D1 and broke the floor
D4 is also pretty sturdy, but definitely not the tank the D1 was.
Anyway, back on topic, OP it is pretty easy to root the D4, just make sure not to *delete* the bloatware, just freeze it in Titanium Backup (or similar program), that way when the inevitable ICS OTA comes over, you can still upgrade!
Now even more concerns, my mind works overtime on stuff like this, if I root will it void my warranty, if I root can I "unroot" and return to stock? I can't afford to purchase a new one if it breaks and the warranty is no good.
andyshowfan said:
Now even more concerns, my mind works overtime on stuff like this, if I root will it void my warranty, if I root can I "unroot" and return to stock? I can't afford to purchase a new one if it breaks and the warranty is no good.
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Yes, you can unroot. D4 utility has root and unroot functions. Yes, it does technically void your warranty but I have yet to hear of someone being turned down because their phone was rooted. Especially if it's a hardware issue.
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kwyrt said:
Yes, you can unroot. D4 utility has root and unroot functions. Yes, it does technically void your warranty but I have yet to hear of someone being turned down because their phone was rooted. Especially if it's a hardware issue.
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But if it is unrooted is that not technically back to stock and they couldnt tell that it was rooted? I understnd that if its broken and cannot, lets say power on, then of course i couldnt get into it to unroot. Sry for all the questions, but i tend to over analyze things
Correct. If you unroot (and make sure the superuser app is deleted) they shouldn't be able to tell it was rooted.
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You guys are awesome, I believe I'm am comfortable with the decision to root, just got to study on exactly how to do it
andyshowfan said:
You guys are awesome, I believe I'm am comfortable with the decision to root, just got to study on exactly how to do it
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Glad we could help! Good luck!
Rooted! Installed root keeper and titanium backup pro. Have frozen several "bloatware" apps. Thanks again for all the help. Any recommended apps or other safe "good" stuff for my newly rooted phone
andyshowfan said:
Rooted! Installed root keeper and titanium backup pro. Have frozen several "bloatware" apps. Thanks again for all the help. Any recommended apps or other safe "good" stuff for my newly rooted phone
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Foxfi is a great app for free wifi tethering for rooted and unrooted phones
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Hey guys, total noob on this stuff, but pretty decent in general. Need Help Unrooting My Rooted Moto Atrix HD Jellybean (motochopper root), please help. Damsel in distress or whatnot
You can uninstal root within the super su superuser app. Or search the store for root removal apps.
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Unroot? Why?
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Dr. Orange said:
Unroot? Why?
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No reason really, just been debating it within myself to and wanted to know how in the case I decided to.
A couple more questions, please, will my rooted phone still update like a stock phone? Also, does anyone else with the Atrix HD have this same problem, when my battery gets low, it will literally jump from 14% to 4% in a matter of seconds...?
Thanks for the help guys.
BigBrad75 said:
No reason really, just been debating it within myself to and wanted to know how in the case I decided to.
A couple more questions, please, will my rooted phone still update like a stock phone? Also, does anyone else with the Atrix HD have this same problem, when my battery gets low, it will literally jump from 14% to 4% in a matter of seconds...?
Thanks for the help guys.
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There will be no more updates from Motorola so yes and no to your first question. An official update would update even on root, but you would lose all root privileges and have to re-root.
Yes on the battery problem, but since I've been using PACman and put the eb40 MAXX battery in, I haven't been close to dead battery for a while, so I can't tell you if it's been fixed.
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There will be no more updates from Motorola so yes and no to your first question. An official update would update even on root, but you would lose all root privileges and have to re-root.
Yes on the battery problem, but since I've been using PACman and put the eb40 MAXX battery in, I haven't been close to dead battery for a while, so I can't tell you if it's been fixed.
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I'll have to look into the MAXX battery you're referring to. I've tried a couple of the *battery saver type programs with absolutely no luck, unless performance is reduced significantly, and I will choose performance over battery life any day
The MAXX battery mod is buying an eb40 battery (which is the one in a DROID RAZR MAXX) and installing it in the Atrix HD. There are a couple of great tutorials on YouTube that show you how to do it.
//I got my battery off of Amazon. Make sure it's coming from a reputable source. Sometimes people send fake batteries out.
The mod only needs minor surgery to make it fit. Follow the steps and tutorials very carefully and you'll have a super long lasting battery in no time.
Yea man, thanks for all the great advice. I have actually just ordered one a few minutes ago, from amazon as well It was $47.00 shipped, and if it fixes my crappy battery problems then it will be worth every penny. I've been having to charge my phone on and off three or four times a day for a while now, I'm really grateful for the advice. Major Thank You!! I'll update this thread after I get it installed and use it for a day or two. Can't wait! Seriously, I'm excited here guys! :good::good:
Well, while we're talking, let me ask you this as well, off topic. I downloaded a Windows7 ROM for my phone, but never installed it because I'm not sure how to, I know it's not like a regular APK. Any advice on the custom ROMs? I'm sure there are several threads about it, just asking you while you're here, I guess just making small talk ya know.
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The MAXX battery mod is buying an eb40 battery (which is the one in a DROID RAZR MAXX) and installing it in the Atrix HD. There are a couple of great tutorials on YouTube that show you how to do it.
//I got my battery off of Amazon. Make sure it's coming from a reputable source. Sometimes people send fake batteries out.
The mod only needs minor surgery to make it fit. Follow the steps and tutorials very carefully and you'll have a super long lasting battery in no time.
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If you didn't download it from the Atrix HD forums I'd say don't use it.
There are plenty of tutorials in Atrix HD general and the question/troubleshooting sections. There you can find a lot more info than I or anyone else can explain in one post.
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Let me explain: So I got the OTA overnight, and when I woke up (to my alarm clock) I accidentally accepted the update. I had planned to root my phone and looked into keeping root through the OTA. I postponed it for the last two days, trying to figure out how to root/keep root through OTA. I've been busy with work and had to put it aside until I had a day off. To get to my question, am I screwed or will there be a way to root this phone after the update? This is my first Motorola phone, so pardon me if this is a dumb question. Thanks for any and all comments.
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pborner said:
Let me explain: So I got the OTA overnight, and when I woke up (to my alarm clock) I accidentally accepted the update. I had planned to root my phone and looked into keeping root through the OTA. I postponed it for the last two days, trying to figure out how to root/keep root through OTA. I've been busy with work and had to put it aside until I had a day off. To get to my question, am I screwed or will there be a way to root this phone after the update? This is my first Motorola phone, so pardon me if this is a dumb question. Thanks for any and all comments.
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screwed for the time being. jcase already verified there's other ways to root the update but won't release them yet. in due time I'm sure someone will release something. I'm patiently waiting too.. bought a used moto x with the update already applied. sucks.
If its still within the return time, shoot compressed air in the ear piece and speakers. It'll screw it up, take it in and get a replacement. Then don't screw up the next time around.
gokart2 said:
If its still within the return time, shoot compressed air in the ear piece and speakers. It'll screw it up, take it in and get a replacement. Then don't screw up the next time around.
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Um... As much as I'm in favor of screwing Verizon (and all other multi-national corporations), why not just search the threads for how to use RSDLite to reflash the original stock firmware, then don't accept the OTA until you've waded through the process for keeping root? Or, you can destroy a perfectly good piece of technology for no reason.
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Um... As much as I'm in favor of screwing Verizon (and all other multi-national corporations), why not just search the threads for how to use RSDLite to reflash the original stock firmware, then don't accept the OTA until you've waded through the process for keeping root? Or, you can destroy a perfectly good piece of technology for no reason.
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You cannot downgrade firmware.
mandrsn1 said:
You cannot downgrade firmware.
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I'm pretty sure you can:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515
hazenberger said:
I'm pretty sure you can:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515
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Nope. When you bootloader updates as part of the camera update, it prevents firmware downgrades. That link is just for restoring to stock if you haven't updated.
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Nope. When you bootloader updates as part of the camera update, it prevents firmware downgrades. That link is just for restoring to stock if you haven't updated.
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Sorry. You're right.
So go ahead and screw Verizon using the air trick. Or wait until someone finds a new root exploit for this firmware.
hazenberger said:
Sorry. You're right.
So go ahead and screw Verizon using the air trick. Or wait until someone finds a new root exploit for this firmware.
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There are other known, but unreleased, root exploits. They aren't going to be released until another major firmware upgrade (e.g., 4.4).
Thanks for the heads up guys. Not really in favor of the air method. There's nothing wrong with this phone unrooted, actually the first phone I can say that about. Just wanna tweak some things, preferably a CM MOD. Will wait for a new method.
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pborner said:
Thanks for the heads up guys. Not really in favor of the air method. There's nothing wrong with this phone unrooted, actually the first phone I can say that about. Just wanna tweak some things, preferably a CM MOD. Will wait for a new method.
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if you are on verizon and you go to a verizon store, they are typically pretty nice there. Basically, you could walk in say that you accidentally took the OTA and you wanted to root so can give you me a new one. They will probably say yes. Or you can just say your battery drain is really bad and you have spent hours trying to fix it but people on forums said you needed to return it. The guy at my store doesn't even ask or look at my phone anymore if i bring it in...
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There are other known, but unreleased, root exploits. They aren't going to be released until another major firmware upgrade (e.g., 4.4).
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This is good to hear... Do you happen to know if there's been any solid progress made on a bootloader unlock for Verizon? I wish I knew the first thing about Android programming so I could help out in this effort. I love my Moto X as is, but would love to see permanent root methods so we could have access to custom kernels (and so I can try to get rid of the damn NLP wakelocks).
Sup guys I have a moto x on sprint and I'm on 4.4.2. I'm not sure if I want to root. I just heard some people getting great battery life and I'm not its just average. Maybe 3 hours screen on with 12 hours total before dead. So I think its some apps giving me wakelocks but I need root to find out now. Also app ops and/or greenify I'm sure will help. Now otherwise the phone is perfect. I'm no noob to root so I know what it is.
What I want to know is what's the easiest way to unlock boot loader, root install recovery and probably do xposed?
Then is there a way to totally revert back to stock with locked boot loader for warranty claims?
Thanks guys
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Use this guide to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738
You can flash stock firmware again but you cant relock your bootloader.
DaRkRhiNe said:
Use this guide to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738
You can flash stock firmware again but you cant relock your bootloader.
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Cool thanks. So root will cause void of warranty. I have the Motorola esp insurance. Do you think it also voids that? As a cracked screen has nothing to do with root.
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Your battery times may be completely normal.....depending on what features you leave on, apps you've installed that access those features.....screen brightness, games, how much you make/get calls, signal strength....etc...etc.
My point is, those times you get aren't necessarily cause of an issue.....could be anything above too. Root won't help on its own.....its setup and usage that determine average battery times.
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Cool thanks. So root will cause void of warranty. I have the Motorola esp insurance. Do you think it also voids that? As a cracked screen has nothing to do with root.
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Ya I agree. I'm not sure on root yet still checking app settings. Thing is all the apps on my phone are there for a reason. Don't play games and it seems all my settings are good. Im just getting awake time when my screen is off so something is happening and I can't figure it out. Is there anything without root I can use to determine the wake lock?
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r.storm85 said:
Ya I agree. I'm not sure on root yet still checking app settings. Thing is all the apps on my phone are there for a reason. Don't play games and it seems all my settings are good. Im just getting awake time when my screen is off so something is happening and I can't figure it out. Is there anything without root I can use to determine the wake lock?
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You pretty much need root to see that stuff....on kit kat anyway.
kj2112 said:
You pretty much need root to see that stuff....on kit kat anyway.
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Ya that's what I've seen. I really don't want root if I could get another 3-4 hrs of total and another hour of screen on time. And I know it all depends on usage but it seems that isn't too much to ask from this phone when its running right
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Look at all the apps you have.
Uninstall any that haven't been updated this year.
???
Profit.
Basically with the restructure of kit kat apps that haven't been updated for it are causing unnecessary wakelocks, basically not closing properly.
SymbioticGenius said:
Look at all the apps you have.
Uninstall any that haven't been updated this year.
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Profit.
Basically with the restructure of kit kat apps that haven't been updated for it are causing unnecessary wakelocks, basically not closing properly.
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I'll take a look. Weird is I just switched to art to see how it does and my android is usage went from 20% down to 10%. And its a lot better now. Maybe art really helps on 4.2.2?
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If your one of the many that got in on the Cyber Monday deal for the Moto X 2nd Generation then you may be like me and want to root this phone. Does anyone know if this is possible yet? I can't find anything on it yet so figured I'd start a thread on it.
There are actually a few threads on this already (general & q/a). No luck on root yet...
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There are actually a few threads on this already (general & q/a). No luck on root yet...
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Maybe after the deal a few devs got a hold of these and we'll see it soon. Fingers crossed here
Do I return this or hold off for root?
GrandMstrBud said:
Do I return this or hold off for root?
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My $0.02... If root is really important to you, return it.
I just need the wireless tether that's the main reason and custom roms of course.
We need to start a bounty thread for rooting the VZW version.
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We need to start a bounty thread for rooting the VZW version.
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I agree, it's really the only thing stopping me from activating my brand new Moto X 2014
So we don't have any ROM for XT1096 ?
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niilartey1 said:
So we don't have any ROM for XT1096 ?
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Correct. I wouldn't count on ever getting root for this phone. If root is that important to you, you should probably go a different route.
ssick92 said:
Correct. I wouldn't count on ever getting root for this phone. If root is that important to you, you should probably go a different route.
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How confident are you on this? I didn't think there were any phones that root was not possible on. I really don't want to keep the iPhone 6 but I don't have much longer before my return period is up. The only good thing is I have tethering with it
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How confident are you on this? I didn't think there were any phones that root was not possible on. I really don't want to keep the iPhone 6 but I don't have much longer before my return period is up. The only good thing is I have tethering with it
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Well I mean I can't say that it will never happen, but these newer phones are a lot more secure and locked down than android phones were a couple years ago. That, and the fact that most users of this phone purchased it because of the amazing motorola features that it comes with, so many users don't have the need or want for custom ROMs.
GrandMstrBud said:
How confident are you on this? I didn't think there were any phones that root was not possible on. I really don't want to keep the iPhone 6 but I don't have much longer before my return period is up. The only good thing is I have tethering with it
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Tons of phones. My S5 was out for a solid year until geohot came out and saved the day with towel root. This phone could easily never gain root.
Yeah. I think too many ppl are being too negative about root. It might not happen today but I think it will eventually. If Devs can root any of the Samsung Knox filled crap phones than we should have more faith.
Btw, there is a bounty thread started so donate if u can, give a dev more reason to help us.
While I'm missing having a rooted phone, the x doesn't need it IMHO. That's not saying I would root this bad boy immediately though. I'm just happy right now with 5.0. I have other devices rooted to hold me over anyways.
No no not negative. Just being frank with someone who thought every android phone automatically gets root.
I'm optimistic. I pledged money as well.
CF Autoroot Possibly?
Has anyone tried the latest CF Autoroot? It works on other Moto X 2014 editions...
Perefin said:
Has anyone tried the latest CF Autoroot? It works on other Moto X 2014 editions...
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Your bootloader has to be unlocked to run CF-Autoroot.
Where is the link for the CF Autoroot
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Has anyone tried this ?
http://androidbiits.com/android-5-0...-rom-motorola-moto-x-2nd-gen-xt1096-tutorial/