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[Q] Getting a Moto X in the UK and Nexus 5

Hey everyone.
I was thinking about importing a Moto X to the UK, but I'm concerned that it may not work. I reserched about the bands here but I don't know any really realiable source of information and I haven't been living here for long to know much about it (I've moved about 3 weeks ago). Would it be ok to get one from eBay and just pop in a SIM?
Also, I feel like I should wait for the Nexus 5 official release to compare them properly, although the voice features in the Moto X are really driving me to get it. What do you guys think? Is it really worth waiting?
Thanks for the attention. c:

uaite said:
Hey everyone.
I was thinking about importing a Moto X to the UK, but I'm concerned that it may not work. I reserched about the bands here but I don't know any really realiable source of information and I haven't been living here for long to know much about it (I've moved about 3 weeks ago). Would it be ok to get one from eBay and just pop in a SIM?
Also, I feel like I should wait for the Nexus 5 official release to compare them properly, although the voice features in the Moto X are really driving me to get it. What do you guys think? Is it really worth waiting?
Thanks for the attention. c:
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Get the developer edition GSM and you'll be fine, it will be compatible with any carrier and it will get updates as soon as they are available, plus the bootloader is unlockable so u can have fun hacking it like a nexus, I think the moto X beats de Nexus 5, from the active display which the Nex5 can't have because it has an IPS display, to the lack of touchless control since the nex5 has no independant chip just for language procesing, so ye basically the X is a Nexus with somme really useful features added, great batery life, and awesome form factor, go with the X bro...

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Get the developer edition GSM and you'll be fine, it will be compatible with any carrier and it will get updates as soon as they are available, plus the bootloader is unlockable so u can have fun hacking it like a nexus, I think the moto X beats de Nexus 5, from the active display which the Nex5 can't have because it has an IPS display, to the lack of touchless control since the nex5 has no independant chip just for language procesing, so ye basically the X is a Nexus with somme really useful features added, great batery life, and awesome form factor, go with the X bro...
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Thanks, dude.
One little thing: there's this auction going on at eBay and the price is half the other Xs on sale, but it doesn't mention being dev edition, although some other one does... The description doesn't clarify much either, it does mention networks types but you can never be too sure...
This is the link: ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorola-Moto-X-16GB-Unlocked-Customized-Smartphone-/221296979130?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item338653ecba (can't post links yet, sorry)
Would that be a safe buy or I'd be better off taking another one?

uaite said:
Thanks, dude.
One little thing: there's this auction going on at eBay and the price is half the other Xs on sale, but it doesn't mention being dev edition, although some other one does... The description doesn't clarify much either, it does mention networks types but you can never be too sure...
This is the link: ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorola-Moto-X-16GB-Unlocked-Customized-Smartphone-/221296979130?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item338653ecba (can't post links yet, sorry)
Would that be a safe buy or I'd be better off taking another one?
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It looks nice, that'll work for any carrier that uses gsm, if u can get it, get it, but I think the bids are gonna get much higher than that with the days, If I were u I'd rather get the dev edition, which is 530 pounds there in the uk website...

The one in the ebay listing might be a Rogers phone that has been unlocked. Its made in China so its not a US phone, and it has the Industry Canada info on it. Rogers is the only provider in Canada that has the Moto X. Assuming it is that would mean the bootloader can be unlocked via Motorola. Based on the FCC ID its a XT-1058 model (same as AT&T) if you want to see what bands it supports.

This phone works for you http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-Mo...d=100040&prg=1011&rk=1&rkt=4&sd=231074547135&

[Q] Thinking of buying the 2013 Moto X

Hi,
I currently own a Nexus S, customized with AOSP Kitkat ROM. While this is a wonderful device, I think the time has come to change it. 512MB of RAM is just way too low for KitKat and newer apps that are RAM hungry. However, I don't like big phones. I like my Nexus S because it is small and fits everywhere. My brother has a Nexus 5 and it just doesn't fit in my hand. The screen is beautiful, but it is too big for my hand.
I was passing by a carrier store last week and came accross the Moto X and Moto G, both last generation. Both are the same physical size, even though the screen on the Moto G is 4.5inches and the X is 4.7. They fit pretty well in my hands and I love their design. It is also a great thing that it is running nearly stock Android with Motorola applications.
I know the Moto X isn't the most powerful phone on the market, and this isn't what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a nice upgrade with features that I like and a device that feels good in my hands.
Is the device worth it ? Are the Motorola extra features (Moto Assist, Active Display, Touchless controls) working fine ? I can easily imagine my Moto X docked in my car and me asking it for directions or change songs. I can't do that with the Nexus S; it is way too weak in power.
Do you know if I have to keep the stock launcher to get those features ? I really enjoy Apex.
How's the battery life ? I am usually not power hungry as I don't play games on my phone or even watch videos. I listen to music, check rss feeds and social networks.
Lastely, what would you change to the (old) Moto X ? From the reviews that I have read, I understand that the screen isn't incredible, but would you say that it is an issue ?
Thanks for any input
Neo.

Honestly, you would be better served reading through general and Q&A sections and reading the threads that have topic titles you're curious about.
You will get much more info than you will from this thread
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The screen is pretty good as far as I can tell. Better in direct sunlight compared to LCD screens which I had cup my hand to be able to read clearly. That said, the moto features work but I don't make use of them. And you can use any alternative launcher if you like; I use action launcher btw. Is it worth the money? That's up to you. I paid $324 for the 32GB version and it is worth what I paid for it.

What carrier? If vzw?
Get a Maxx if you can cheap enough. Much brighter display

Was in the same situation as u 2 months ago, coming from a droid 3. Was looking at moto x and maxx, but battery was a huge plus for me, and went with the maxx, and I couldn't be happier with my choice. Although, it is a 5 inch screen.
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KJ said:
Honestly, you would be better served reading through general and Q&A sections and reading the threads that have topic titles you're curious about.
You will get much more info than you will from this thread
Just my opinion. ?
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Thanks. It did answer if a third party launcher can be installed and keep Motorola features. The answer is yes
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The screen is pretty good as far as I can tell. Better in direct sunlight compared to LCD screens which I had cup my hand to be able to read clearly. That said, the moto features work but I don't make use of them. And you can use any alternative launcher if you like; I use action launcher btw. Is it worth the money? That's up to you. I paid $324 for the 32GB version and it is worth what I paid for it.
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I am in Canada, so the device costs more. In fact, I can't really buy the device anymore in Canada and would have to import it from the US. More of a hassle, but may be worth it. I could get the 16GB XT1058 for about 300$USD shipped.
aviwdoowks said:
What carrier? If vzw?
Get a Maxx if you can cheap enough. Much brighter display
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I am currently with Koodo (Telus) in Canada, but I would buy an unlocked device or unlock it myself. Rogers and Fido had the Moto X as an exclusive here in Canada. You couldn't buy the Moto X anywhere else than these carriers store. So if I wanna get a Moto X on Koodo, I must unlock it anyway. As for the Droid Maxx, I've read many times that the radio isn't working properly in Canada. I would have to dig a bit.
On another note, I was looking at how to root the Moto X and it is much more complicated than my Nexus S. If I can get a Dev edition it would be easier but they are hard to find (and not cheap). Gotta love Nexus devices for that reason !

You can buy an X from carriers still. Mine was 18 bucks to sim unlock. (Rogers phone and I'm on Telus)
And there's many used on kijiji.
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You can also unlock the Rogers version and root easily.

KJ said:
You can buy an X from carriers still. Mine was 18 bucks to sim unlock. (Rogers phone and I'm on Telus)
And there's many used on kijiji.
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You can also unlock the Rogers version and root easily.
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Really ? I've done some stores and no fido or rogers had stock on Moto X, although they had it in display.
So you have the XT1058 ? According to the Moto X guides thread, how complex rootinng is, depends on what version of Android is installed. Do you run KitKat or JellyBean ?

The best buy in the last couple of years. I definitly recommend it. I always was the type of person, who felt like having to fiddle a lot with the phone, to fulfill my needs. (I came from LG devices). I always rooted and installed custom ROMs. But believe it or not, I still dont feel the need to root or install a different Software, since the stock ROM runs amazingly great on my phone. I also had the G in my hands, but the X display is way better. Camera... Well it is not the best, but also not as bad as many said. Battery is amazin. And although I already had phones with more capacity, this one lasts longer by far. I also listen to a LOT of music and the phone still gets me through the day quite easily. But there is one thing I would consider. The new 2014 X. For me personally, the screen is too big, but maybe it will be just right for you? And yeah it does not have killer specs, but the phone is definitly smoother than other flagship phones, which often laag due to the extra ("great"/"special") custom UI.
Those are my 2 cents. Hope it helps a bit
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I think it would be quite an upgrade for you and still worth it..
If you have any specific questions feel free to post here or message me

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Really ? I've done some stores and no fido or rogers had stock on Moto X, although they had it in display.
So you have the XT1058 ? According to the Moto X guides thread, how complex rootinng is, depends on what version of Android is installed. Do you run KitKat or JellyBean ?
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Yup, xt1058. Unlocked on moto site, then just used fastboot for custom recovery and rooted. Done. No different than rooting a Nexus. Simple.
I did all that in jelly bean, but it's no different on KitKat.
I don't remember the site I used to unlock Sim, but they're a dime a dozen. I think it was cellularunlocker. Or something like that.
I did have to try the moto site the night I got it, and the next day after work before it worked. The unlock site is glitchy.

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Yup, xt1058. Unlocked on moto site, then just used fastboot for custom recovery and rooted. Done. No different than rooting a Nexus. Simple.
I did all that in jelly bean, but it's no different on KitKat.
I don't remember the site I used to unlock Sim, but they're a dime a dozen. I think it was cellularunlocker. Or something like that.
I did have to try the moto site the night I got it, and the next day after work before it worked. The unlock site is glitchy.
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OK thanks, I'll check the Moto website. If a get a XT1058 from the US or from Rogers/Fido, I guess I can root it using Moto website and it will work on Koodo. Rooting shouldn't affect the bands and carrier. From what I know, AT&T and Telus/Koodo uses the same bands.
The Complete Moto X Guides/Information Thread got all me confused with downgrading from KitKat to Jelly Bean and flashing the 4.2.2 camera app. Is the downgrade procedure only for Locked Bootloaders (which the XT1058 isn't) ?
Thanks everyone for your feedback yet. I think it will be a device as good as my Nexus S, if not better

$324 seems really high to be the current value.
If the 2014 Moto G is selling for $179 Brand New, what do you think a used 2013 Sprint Moto X is worth now ????

spookyneo said:
OK thanks, I'll check the Moto website. If a get a XT1058 from the US or from Rogers/Fido, I guess I can root it using Moto website and it will work on Koodo. Rooting shouldn't affect the bands and carrier. From what I know, AT&T and Telus/Koodo uses the same bands.
The Complete Moto X Guides/Information Thread got all me confused with downgrading from KitKat to Jelly Bean and flashing the 4.2.2 camera app. Is the downgrade procedure only for Locked Bootloaders (which the XT1058 isn't) ?
Thanks everyone for your feedback yet. I think it will be a device as good as my Nexus S, if not better
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Downloading was going from 4.4 to 4.2.2. That's gone as of 4.4 2. No more downgrading. Not without great risk.
There's no Telus moto x... I don't think. Was only Rogers and fido . Maybe I'm wrong. I got a Rogers one new, but off a guy. I just unlocked it to use on Telus. Maybe there's a telus model... But I didn't think so.
But remember, whatever model number it may be, an AT&T phone can't be unlocked. Avoid getting that if you can.

tt c6 said:
$324 seems really high to be the current value.
If the 2014 Moto G is selling for $179 Brand New, what do you think a used 2013 Sprint Moto X is worth now ????
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I am looking at new phones, so this is why it is a bit more expensive. I don't know if you are in the US or CA, but the Moto G will sell for about 225$CDN here and the new Moto X will for around 450-500$ if not more. Cellphones in Canada are more expensive than in the US. Pretty much like anything else on the market...
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Downloading was going from 4.4 to 4.2.2. That's gone as of 4.4 2. No more downgrading. Not without great risk.
There's no Telus moto x... I don't think. Was only Rogers and fido . Maybe I'm wrong. I got a Rogers one new, but off a guy. I just unlocked it to use on Telus. Maybe there's a telus model... But I didn't think so.
But remember, whatever model number it may be, an AT&T phone can't be unlocked. Avoid getting that if you can.
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No there was never any Moto X on Telus or Koodo. It was a Rogers/Fido exclusive. Sorry, I think my post was misleading.
An AT&T phone cannot be unlocked ? I think since a month or 2, this isn't true anymore.

spookyneo said:
I am looking at new phones, so this is why it is a bit more expensive. I don't know if you are in the US or CA, but the Moto G will sell for about 225$CDN here and the new Moto X will for around 450-500$ if not more. Cellphones in Canada are more expensive than in the US. Pretty much like anything else on the market...
No there was never any Moto X on Telus or Koodo. It was a Rogers/Fido exclusive. Sorry, I think my post was misleading.
An AT&T phone cannot be unlocked ? I think since a month or 2, this isn't true anymore.
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I thought you were talking bootloader unlocked, which AT&T can't. Yes, Sim unlock sure.
But you risk not having root. Depending what version it comes with and whether you're willing to pay 45 to bootloader unlocked, if you're on the list for the China Middleman.

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I thought you were talking bootloader unlocked, which AT&T can't. Yes, Sim unlock sure.
But you risk not having root. Depending what version it comes with and whether you're willing to pay 45 to bootloader unlocked, if you're on the list for the China Middleman.
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Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice that AT&T has a locked bootloader. I thought either locked or unlocked bootloader was model dependant (XT1058,60,etc) and not carrier dependant. Let the search continue. My best bet would be to find a Rogers one

spookyneo said:
Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice that AT&T has a locked bootloader. I thought either locked or unlocked bootloader was model dependant (XT1058,60,etc) and not carrier dependant. Let the search continue. My best bet would be to find a Rogers one
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Yup. ?
Kijiji.

Any Canadian Moto X 2014 Users

Was really considering the phone, but Telus sells the 16GB one. And I am not sure how they will cripple Moto's fast updates. Any Canadian owners, leave your thoughts. I am better off going with the Pure Version?

The only thing telus has done with their moto x is the branding in the status bar and a shortcut to the mytelus account Web app
I don't expect them to take long for other updates.

Mine didn't even come with the Telus MyAccount app at all? It seems like there's actually nothing here (locked phone aside)

The "My Telus" app is in the play store. There really isn't anything on the phone that should delay the update. Part of telus' marketing for this phone has been something along these lines: Pure Style, pure performance with the fastest updates. Im expecting to get the update at the same time as the pure edition or maybe after a few days of network testing.
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You can actually remove the TELUS branding in status bar form network settings if you want.

Telus
According to the model number XT1097 the telus model is sold in a number of countries. There really isn't any carrier specific software on this phone. Only place telus is shown is in the APN settings.
Coming from the Galaxy S4 which was also 16gb I really like this phone. It doesn't have a SD card but I didn't really use the SD card I had in the S4 other than for music.

Gage_Hero said:
According to the model number XT1097 the telus model is sold in a number of countries. There really isn't any carrier specific software on this phone. Only place telus is shown is in the APN settings.
Coming from the Galaxy S4 which was also 16gb I really like this phone. It doesn't have a SD card but I didn't really use the SD card I had in the S4 other than for music.
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Do you think it is worth it for me to buy the pure edition or the Telus one?

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Do you think it is worth it for me to buy the pure edition or the Telus one?
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If money is no object then the pure edition might be something to look at provided your going to go to a 32gb phone. So far my understanding between the XT1097 and the pure edition is only storage capacity difference and unlocked boot loader but I did read in the development section that someone with a XT1097 used the same method to unlock his boot loader on the Telus model which means it only comes down to having extra storage. If anyone knows of other differences please tell us.
The other way to decide is look at your current phone and if you still have enough storage capacity on it then the Telus one should work for you.

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If money is no object then the pure edition might be something to look at provided your going to go to a 32gb phone. So far my understanding between the XT1097 and the pure edition is only storage capacity difference and unlocked boot loader but I did read in the development section that someone with a XT1097 used the same method to unlock his boot loader on the Telus model which means it only comes down to having extra storage. If anyone knows of other differences please tell us.
The other way to decide is look at your current phone and if you still have enough storage capacity on it then the Telus one should work for you.
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ah ok thanks! I am thinking of getting the Pure, but I forgot us Canucks cannot buy it

I'd love to know if the Telus version can be unlocked, I've been holding off on buying it because of this.

snoopstah said:
I'd love to know if the Telus version can be unlocked, I've been holding off on buying it because of this.
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I was wondering the same thing. Though I might wait a bit for Black Friday as Moto usually offers a discount on their phones around that time, or around Christmas. The only issue is that us Canadians will have to go over the boarder to pick it up.

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I was wondering the same thing. Though I might wait a bit for Black Friday as Moto usually offers a discount on their phones around that time, or around Christmas. The only issue is that us Canadians will have to go over the boarder to pick it up.
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Yeah, I have the bamboo edition from telus unlocked. Hopefully waiting for 5.0 Lollipop.

aznturtle100 said:
Yeah, I have the bamboo edition from telus unlocked. Hopefully waiting for 5.0 Lollipop.
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You unlocked the phone, or it came unlocked from Telus? And how much did it cost you after taxes?

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You unlocked the phone, or it came unlocked from Telus? And how much did it cost you after taxes?
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I bought the phone from telus then unlocked it. I cost me about 690$ after tax (quebec tax).

Its a good choice
Gage_Hero said:
If money is no object then the pure edition might be something to look at provided your going to go to a 32gb phone. So far my understanding between the XT1097 and the pure edition is only storage capacity difference and unlocked boot loader but I did read in the development section that someone with a XT1097 used the same method to unlock his boot loader on the Telus model which means it only comes down to having extra storage. If anyone knows of other differences please tell us.
The other way to decide is look at your current phone and if you still have enough storage capacity on it then the Telus one should work for you.
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I have been on ios for the last 5 years or so, bought the telus bamboo yesterday and i have already unlocked and rooted. The forum for me as a new android user was pretty strait forward and easy to comprehend and the pure method did indeed do the trick on my xt1097. If you are still undecided, i would recommend it and can testify to the effectiveness of the pure method as well as its ease.
With not a whole lot of convincing, I talked them into an additional incentive on a 2 yr so I not only didn't pay for it, but ended up with a negative balance on my bill. hehe
Hope that helps.

Does anyone know when is the end of the Telus exclusivity period?

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I'd love to know if the Telus version can be unlocked, I've been holding off on buying it because of this.
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Yes it do unlocked. and in cheap way. i got mine unlocked from http://phoneunlockingshop.ca

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I have been on ios for the last 5 years or so, bought the telus bamboo yesterday and i have already unlocked and rooted. The forum for me as a new android user was pretty strait forward and easy to comprehend and the pure method did indeed do the trick on my xt1097. If you are still undecided, i would recommend it and can testify to the effectiveness of the pure method as well as its ease.
With not a whole lot of convincing, I talked them into an additional incentive on a 2 yr so I not only didn't pay for it, but ended up with a negative balance on my bill. hehe
Hope that helps.
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how did you do it? i cant get any methods to work

Looking for suggestions on selecting a new (used) Moto X

Greetings everyone!
I was going to post this in the "Ask any question" thread, but as it got longer I figured I'd make a new thread. Perhaps it will help others who are also looking to buy a Moto X.
I've been a long time considering a Moto X but I've been scared off previously by the difficulties many people seem to have with sim unlocking, bootloader unlocking, and rooting. I'm spoiled because I started with a Samsung Captivate which is unbrickable and can be coerced into running just about anything (now on CyanAOSP 4.0). Currently my main phone is a CDMA (yuck) version of the Galaxy S3 which was given to me. I'd like to go back to a GSM phone and I am again looking at the Moto X.
Given the difficulties with sim unlocking, bootloader unlocking and rooting, my questions are these:
1. Which version(s) of the phone (1058, 1060, etc) should I look at buying for ease of unlocking? I'll be using a T-Mobile (likely) or AT&T (less likely) reseller for a provider. 1058 and 1053 are obvious choices, what about others?
2. Are there versions of the phone, or versions of Android that I should avoid which may be harder to unlock and root than others?
The following are things to take into consideration when selecting a phone:
1. It has to be able to be sim unlocked.
2. I don't care about, or want OTA updates.
3. I don't care about using an older Android OS, such as 4.2.2. but I'm also not opposed to a newer OS.
4. I'd like to be able to use a custom rom, but I could live with a factory rooted rom. (This is the case with my S3)
5. I can't afford a developer edition. $100-110 ish is about my limit.
I've read it's much harder, or impossible to unlock the bootloader on a 4.4.4 phone, if I get one of them, I wouldn't mind downgrading it to 4.2.2 if it would make for an easier time unlocking the bootloader.
You might ask, what's wrong with my S3? The answer is nothing. I like it very much, but I don't like that it's CDMA. That makes it much harder to change providers (currently on Boost). Also if I happen to drop it in the toilet, I have to go without a phone until the Boost store opens, then run to them and purchase a temporary replacement. With a GSM phone, I'd just dry off the sim card and put it in my Captivate, or my Nokia feature phone, or my Sony Ericsson, etc.
Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated

first 4.4.4 cant be downgrade with out significant risk, second save a little more and get the xt1053 dev edition which will answer all your questions and needs

Thanks for the reply. I will remove downgrading from the list of options and keep that in mind as I'm shopping. I would really like to have a 1053, but they seem to go for $200+, which is double what I can afford. I'm on an uber strict budget and I'm not willing to wait another three or four months. I'm likely going to ditch Boost tonight, so I'll be back on my four year old Captivate till I buy another phone.

Then buy the xt1058 but not at&T because there's no bootloader unlock. If you can get your hands on a Rogers xt1058, go for it

I haven't come across a non-AT&T 1058, but I've got a line on a cheap, unbranded 1050 which I may try to pick up. I understand they're nearly identical to the 1060 except for maybe(?) a different CDMA band, which I don't care about. The specs show the GSM bands of the 1060 and the 1050 to be identical. Since people have decent success with the 1060 on TMO, I would imagine I'd have the same results with a 1050 on TMO given that their GSM radios are the same. I know that LTE may not work depending on my area and provider, but I'm not concerned with LTE. I'm on wifi 95% of the time, so 3G/4G on the UTMS(?) band would be perfectly acceptable.
What I don't know for sure is if the bootloader can be unlocked on the 1050. According to this guy, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52949525&postcount=352 it can. Any input from the gurus on this possible purchase?

I just realized one other thing. According to Wikipedia, the 1050 uses CDMA 800 where the 1060 uses CDMA 850. I read that one of the CDMA bands that Verizon uses prevents them from sim locking their phones, something to do with FCC rules. Would that be the 850 band? If so, there's a moderate chance this phone is sim locked and I can't find anything about specifically sim unlocking a 1050.

I ended up buying a 1053 Developers Edition on eBay for $70 with a dirty, chipped rear cover. I figured who cares about the rear cover because it's going in a case, right? Got it in the mail today and there's a quarter inch crack in the screen on the lower right corner that wasn't in the description. The camera also gives an error and crashes when it tries to load. Ugh! Other than that I really like it.

Dual (e)sim, T-mo and Verizon ?

Hello I was thinking about getting a Pixel device to replace 2 phones I currently carry. Was wondering if a dual SIM config would work well with these 2 carriers, and whether it's better or easier to put Verizon or T-Mobile on the eSIM?
Also is it possible to use data simultaneously from both, I've read conflicting reports?

DrWowe said:
Hello I was thinking about getting a Pixel device to replace 2 phones I currently carry. Was wondering if a dual SIM config would work well with these 2 carriers, and whether it's better or easier to put Verizon or T-Mobile on the eSIM?
Also is it possible to use data simultaneously from both, I've read conflicting reports?
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Verizon is pretty easy although you might need to call for a scan code. But that takes all of 5 minutes. Not sure about TM but I heard it was just as easy. I've been doing this for a couple of years now, first with Fi and Verizon (physical sim) and then I got rid of Fi and went with both lines on Verizon. One on the eSim and the other physical sim.
You need to select one sim for data. You can change it rather easily in network settings. Calls and text can default to one or select each time which I find to be a pain. Depends on your situation though.

@DrWowe Just a little update. The Pixel 5 is out of stock at the Google store and probably won't be coming back. That leaves Amazon or other 3rd party sellers. With that in mind be careful about which version you buy meaning it needs to be carrier unlocked. If you are thinking of rooting you need to be doubly careful. Or.. you can wait for the P6 and buy directly from Google. Whichever you choose good luck.

Fair enough. I'm assuming the eSim configurations will be similar on the 5a or 6, I haven't decided which one to buy yet. I guess it won't be a 5 after since it's discontinued and I only want to buy unlocked from the manufacturer.

DrWowe said:
Fair enough. I'm assuming the eSim configurations will be similar on the 5a or 6, I haven't decided which one to buy yet. I guess it won't be a 5 after since it's discontinued and I only want to buy unlocked from the manufacturer.
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I'd find a BNIB Pixel 5. No way I could justify paying for the Pixel 5a. If you think the 6 wont be too large for you, I'd get that.
Just my .2 cents

andybones said:
I'd find a BNIB Pixel 5. No way I could justify paying for the Pixel 5a. If you think the 6 wont be too large for you, I'd get that.
Just my .2 cents
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We are really in a bind here if you want a smaller device. On Swappa there are zero P5 new or mint for sale. Even very limited stock at Amazon and you'd have to have your head examined to buy off Ebay. There are none available there either that are US versions unlocked. These are becoming a collectors item and as such will probably go for a pretty penny if we can keep them in decent condition. The only premium device I can find under 6.3" is the iPhone 13 at 6.1. This is not good.