If I read correctly sprint is switching from the 1900 band to the 800 band, how will this effect the ONE and the EVO LTE.
They are scheduled to start shutting down June 30th.
Will we not get lte no more
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josh030181 said:
If I read correctly sprint is switching from the 1900 band to the 800 band, how will this effect the ONE and the EVO LTE.
They are scheduled to start shutting down June 30th.
Will we not get lte no more
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Here's the information on the frequencies:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz
T-Mobile: 850/AWS/1900/2100 MHz
Sprint: 700/AWS MHz
CDMA
Sprint: 800/1900 MHz (BC0/BC1/BC10)
LTE
AT&T: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
T-Mobile: 700/AWS MHz
Sprint: 1900 MHz
josh030181 said:
If I read correctly sprint is switching from the 1900 band to the 800 band, how will this effect the ONE and the EVO LTE.
They are scheduled to start shutting down June 30th.
Will we not get lte no more
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I don't think it will affect either phone at all. The iDEN network is for Nextel phones. The HTC One and Evo LTE use Sprint's CDMA network. The iDEN network and Sprint's CDMA network are completely separate. Shutting down the iDEN network simply means Nextel phones will no longer work. The shutdown will in no way prevent your One or Evo LTE from using LTE.
josh030181 said:
If I read correctly sprint is switching from the 1900 band to the 800 band, how will this effect the ONE and the EVO LTE.
They are scheduled to start shutting down June 30th.
Will we not get lte no more
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From what I've read since they announced Network Vision is that they will continue to build out LTE over the current 1900 mhz frequencies and convert the iDen Nextel towers to LTE to supplement the 1900 towers. I hope they continue building out both.
The higher frequencies (1900) are better at long distances, but poor at penetrating buildings. The lower Frequencies (800) are the opposite. It would make sense they build out both, except that the HTC One and other currently released phones don't support LTE on the 800 mhz towers. We would have to upgrade again when they release a phone supporting that to gain that support.
dumb question here, but is 4G LTE the same as just 4G?
does this phone get LTE? I see other phones that display LTE next to the signal bar, but this one doesn't
magnumtripod said:
dumb question here, but is 4G LTE the same as just 4G?
does this phone get LTE? I see other phones that display LTE next to the signal bar, but this one doesn't
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They are not the same.
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magnumtripod said:
dumb question here, but is 4G LTE the same as just 4G?
does this phone get LTE? I see other phones that display LTE next to the signal bar, but this one doesn't
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When you see 4G in the sprint HTC one you are getting LTE its just the symbol sprint went with .. Verizon shows a 4GLTE symbol .. if you have an old galaxy s2 or evo 4G (OGEvO) that is running Wimax and is not LTE ...
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NORCALkID said:
When you see 4G in the sprint HTC one you are getting LTE its just the symbol sprint went with .. Verizon shows a 4GLTE symbol .. if you have an old galaxy s2 or evo 4G (OGEvO) that is running Wimax and is not LTE ...
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thanks! exactly what I was looking for
So are our devices future proof for when they start building LTE on the 800 band. As in does anyone know if our Ones are capable of utilizing the 800 band when they switch it over to LTE
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bvang89 said:
So are our devices future proof for when they start building LTE on the 800 band. As in does anyone know if our Ones are capable of utilizing the 800 band when they switch it over to LTE
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Yes to 3g on 800 but no to LTE on 800. They haven't release a phone capable of 4G on 800 yet.
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If I'm correct
Sprint is going to use both 800 and 1900 for their 4G and will add 2500 Mhz later on.
"Sprint's current LTE band near 1900 MHz (band 25), the phones will also support LTE near 800 MHz and 2,500 MHz. The 800 band (also known as ESMR, BC10, and band 27) hosts iDEN - which is being phased out - and CDMA. Sprint has previously announced plans to deploy LTE technology in that band in early 2014. "
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=11771
Are our phones future proof? That's debatable. It all depends on which area you live in and their 4G deployment speed.
They will be able to use Sprint's crappy 3G speeds, which by that point should be less congested.
Lucky for you guys that actually get LTE. Here in AR I'm still stuck on their crappy 3g. I read their LTE gets around 10+ down where tested. That sounds freaking good enough to me at this point.
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gk1984 said:
Yes to 3g on 800 but no to LTE on 800. They haven't release a phone capable of 4G on 800 yet.
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Incorrect I'm afraid. Sprint will not be deploying 3G on the 800MHz band. Only CDMA voice and data and LTE, but no EV-DO (3G).
gk1984 said:
From what I've read since they announced Network Vision is that they will continue to build out LTE over the current 1900 mhz frequencies and convert the iDen Nextel towers to LTE to supplement the 1900 towers. I hope they continue building out both.
The higher frequencies (1900) are better at long distances, but poor at penetrating buildings. The lower Frequencies (800) are the opposite. It would make sense they build out both, except that the HTC One and other currently released phones don't support LTE on the 800 mhz towers. We would have to upgrade again when they release a phone supporting that to gain that support.
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Higher frequencies do not travel as far as low ones.
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Well, I've been misinformed. Thanks for correcting this.
Also, I've seen LTE on Sprint range from 2 Mbps to 12 Mbps. It depends on the area and I suppose signal strength. In one town near me, it's consistently around 4 Mbps, but less populated areas reaches much higher.
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Well, maybe 3G on 800mhz wasn't exactly misinformed. At least not completely.
http://www.extremetech.com/electronics/129995-fcc-approves-3g-and-4g
FCC approved Sprint to use that spectrum for 3G and 4G. This doesn't mean that Sprint will use it for 3G.
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Well, maybe 3G on 800mhz wasn't exactly misinformed. At least not completely.
http://www.extremetech.com/electronics/129995-fcc-approves-3g-and-4g
FCC approved Sprint to use that spectrum for 3G and 4G. This doesn't mean that Sprint will use it for 3G.
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This doesn't change what I indicated earlier, which is that Sprint won't be deploying 3G on 800MHz. Only CDMA 1xAdv and LTE will be deployed in that band.
gk1984 said:
Yes to 3g on 800 but no to LTE on 800. They haven't release a phone capable of 4G on 800 yet.
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Correct. The band in question, LTE over 800MHz is LTE Band 26. There is no equipment available that uses this band.
It's actually a huge chunk of sub 1GHz spectrum, 35MHz of bandwidth (including guard bands.) If Sprint can actually deploy this properly, they have the ability to be the best carrier in the US. Here's hoping the network gets deployed by the time we need to upgrade our O1nes.
Reference:
http://niviuk.free.fr/lte_band.php
So of all the Sprint phones on the market today, none of them have any advantage over the One as far as LTE bands go?
This would be good news to me, I thought I might not be able to connect to an LTE tower using a band the One can't use, but the GS4 could.
ajent said:
So of all the Sprint phones on the market today, none of them have any advantage over the One as far as LTE bands go?
This would be good news to me, I thought I might not be able to connect to an LTE tower using a band the One can't use, but the GS4 could.
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HTC One and S4 use the same bands, but also runs on Rev. 0 and Rev.A (Dunno where I read this)
If anything the One is more fine tuned to Sprint's network than the S4
gobaers said:
Correct. The band in question, LTE over 800MHz is LTE Band 26. There is no equipment available that uses this band.
It's actually a huge chunk of sub 1GHz spectrum, 35MHz of bandwidth (including guard bands.) If Sprint can actually deploy this properly, they have the ability to be the best carrier in the US. Here's hoping the network gets deployed by the time we need to upgrade our O1nes.
Reference:
http://niviuk.free.fr/lte_band.php
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FYI Sprint does not own all 35MHz of that spectrum in that band.... Sprints 800Mhz LTE will be a 5x5MHz deployment so while it will help some on building penetration and some coverage, it won't be earth shattering and jaw dropping...
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Been looking at the radio specs on this ( compared to HTC One) and it seems the GSM/UTS and LTE bands/frequency are all the same except for one of the LTE. The 800Mhz uses band 20 while the HTC One uses band 18. The 1800Mhz and 2600Mhz match.
Would this preclude it from working on Sprint?
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Please see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ascend-p7/help/verions-p7-t2838058
It shows the different versions of the P7 for use in different countries.
I don't think it will work at all on Sprint, as Sprint is a CDMA network.
Also -- again -- My understanding -- is that the Chinese CDMA (TD-SCDMA) is an entirely and completely different thing (different frequencies, different protocols) than the US Sprint/Verizon CDMA. The P7-L00 would not have 4G at all (and spotty or no 3G) in the US.
For the P7-L10 ("International Version") it would work as follows:
It will work as a basic 2G phone on AT&T or T-Mobile in the US.
It should work on AT&T or T-Mobile 3G in some areas, but since it is only quad band - (No 850MHz band - Not penta band) it may not work in all areas.
4G LTE will not work on AT&T or T-Mobile, or on any provider I know of in the US.
AT&T uses Band 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz), Band 4(1700/2100Mhz)
T-Mobile uses (apparently) only Band 4(1700/2100Mhz)
The P7-L10 uses LTE: B1/B3/B7/B8/B20
No overlap means no 4G at all.
There is supposed to be a P7-L16 international version that may have different 3G/4G bands, but apparently it has not shipped yet, or at least I do not know where to buy one.
Note, however that it does have WiFi, so as long as you do not mind paying a premium for 4G LTE that will not work at all, you'll have plenty of data connectivity as long as you have WiFi available.
Hope that this helps. This is what I have found in my research, as I would really like to buy one of these phones, but as mentioned, I cannot see paying the price these phones sell for, and then have no 4G at all.
Those in the know, or who have one in the US, please comment/correct.
I live in the Twin Cities and according to the 700Mhz map, T-Mobile has deployed Band 12 in my area. Is band 12 supposed to be faster and better? Or is band 12 just to help penetrate buildings and cover rural areas?
I'm debating if a phone upgrade is in order based on Band 12 feature.
Thanks!
PowerMan572 said:
I live in the Twin Cities and according to the 700Mhz map, T-Mobile has deployed Band 12 in my area. Is band 12 supposed to be faster and better? Or is band 12 just to help penetrate buildings and cover rural areas?
I'm debating if a phone upgrade is in order based on Band 12 feature.
Thanks!
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To my understanding Band 12 is suppose to just help penetrate building so that you can maintain a signal. I would have posted a link for those also wondering about this subject, but since my profile is new on XDA, I can't post links yet
I tried a search and couldn't find how to check to see if carrier aggregation, CA, was enabled and see what bands were actively selected for it.
Does anyone know how to see if CA is enabled and what bands are active for it? In my area I have band 2, band 4 and band 13 live for VZW. Would be interesting to know if CA has been enabled. I know that it's supposed to be live for 4+13 but for some reason my phone is always camping on band 2 in my area unless I move up a mile or two and then it switches to band 4.
I've used LTE discovery but all it shows is just Band 2, band 4 or band 13 being selected and not if CA is live.
For reference I'm located in midtown west NYC.
Thanks!
According to the whitesheets the E6553 is supposed to support band 12. However mine never seems to use it. It's always on band 4. I'm in the Houston area, and its supposed to have rolled out here already. Does anyone else have a E6553 and actually have used band 12?
Oh and I'm using LTE Discovery to check.
Kabbage said:
According to the whitesheets the E6553 is supposed to support band 12. However mine never seems to use it. It's always on band 4. I'm in the Houston area, and its supposed to have rolled out here already. Does anyone else have a E6553 and actually have used band 12?
Oh and I'm using LTE Discovery to check.
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mine says band 12. I'm on t-mobile in the north Philadelphia area
pikeylfc said:
mine says band 12. I'm on t-mobile in the north Philadelphia area
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Thanks, I was driving around and noticed it use band 12 finally. I guess only a fraction of the towers have band 12, and at my house and work there's only band 4. I wish they had it at work though, our lunchroom has really bad signal penetration...
Kabbage said:
Thanks, I was driving around and noticed it use band 12 finally. I guess only a fraction of the towers have band 12, and at my house and work there's only band 4. I wish they had it at work though, our lunchroom has really bad signal penetration...
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Ya sadly where I've moved to in NJ has horrible LTE coverage
It only switches to Band 12 if you are inside a building where it can't pick up a Band 4 signal or if you are in an area where there is only a Band 12 LTE signal.