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Moto X Dev edition shipping to Canada?

Has anyone managed to get a Moto X dev. ed. shipped to Canada?

mrbuddy said:
Has anyone managed to get a Moto X dev. ed. shipped to Canada?
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We really don't need it as our boot loader is unlockable, if you want the 32 GB unit, yap your going to have import one, eBay is probably your best bet
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flashallthetime said:
We really don't need it as our boot loader is unlockable
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Thanks, didn't know that. That's the Rogers phone?
I do kinda want 32 GB. How much free space on the 16GB model?

mrbuddy said:
Thanks, didn't know that. That's the Rogers phone?
I do kinda want 32 GB. How much free space on the 16GB model?
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Fresh phone roughly 11 GB free space, yes Rogers moto can he unlocked through Motorola, the only downside is you lose your warranty. I tool Tue plunge right away and don't regret it for a moment
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flashallthetime said:
We really don't need it as our boot loader is unlockable, if you want the 32 GB unit, yap your going to have import one, eBay is probably your best bet
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Er, I heard the Rogers version doesn't support AWS, is that true? The whole point of the Dev Edition to me is the lack of branding and pentaband 3G/HSPA as I will be on Wind Mobile (no LTE available). So I kinda of DO need the Dev Edition.

zAlbee said:
Er, I heard the Rogers version doesn't support AWS, is that true? The whole point of the Dev Edition to me is the lack of branding and pentaband 3G/HSPA as I will be on Wind Mobile (no LTE available). So I kinda of DO need the Dev Edition.
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The Rogers version does support AWS with LTE, but not HSPA(which is what you want for Wind) You need the dev edition or tmobile/retail edition if you want to use it with Wind.

Steve-x said:
The Rogers version does support AWS with LTE, but not HSPA(which is what you want for Wind) You need the dev edition or tmobile/retail edition if you want to use it with Wind.
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Thanks, that's what I was afraid of. Both of those are only available in the US...

zAlbee said:
Thanks, that's what I was afraid of. Both of those are only available in the US...
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You can always flash the tmobile sbf firmware with there modems and you're good to go but you need to unlock your bootloader
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zAlbee said:
Thanks, that's what I was afraid of. Both of those are only available in the US...
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Hi! Sorry for digging up an old thread but I'd like to know If you ended up purchasing the developer edition and if it truly is compatible with Wind Mobile. I'm currently in the same situation you were and I can't believe how much confusion there is over the different variants of Moto X available. All the data I've seen suggests the T-mobile and GSM Developer Edition are essentially the same phones with the same pentaband support but every social board I've come across has someone claiming they are not. I trusted my research however and recently jumped on an opportunity to purchase a brand new unopened Developer Edition Moto X for a great deal off ebay only to come across yet another contradicting post but this time on a Canadian board with respect to Wind specifically and now I'm very worried. Can you please confirm the Moto X GSM Developer Edition's compatibility with Wind Mobile?
Thanks
Also, FYI the model number on the box reads 00337NADEV which is what's listed on Motorola's specs sheet for AT&T/T-mobile's GSM Developer Edition while the FCC ID is IHDT56PA2 which corresponds to the XT1053 variant so hopefully everything works out (fingers crossed)

mikey-89 said:
Hi! Sorry for digging up an old thread but I'd like to know If you ended up purchasing the developer edition and if it truly is compatible with Wind Mobile.
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Yes I did, and yes it is! I've had it (XT1053 GSM Dev Edition) for 7 months now, and I use Wind data daily. It works very well. I can even get data at certain spots in the subway (near entrances and at above-ground stations).
mikey-89 said:
I'm currently in the same situation you were and I can't believe how much confusion there is over the different variants of Moto X available. All the data I've seen suggests the T-mobile and GSM Developer Edition are essentially the same phones with the same pentaband support but every social board I've come across has someone claiming they are not. I trusted my research however and recently jumped on an opportunity to purchase a brand new unopened Developer Edition Moto X for a great deal off ebay only to come across yet another contradicting post but this time on a Canadian board with respect to Wind specifically and now I'm very worried. Can you please confirm the Moto X GSM Developer Edition's compatibility with Wind Mobile?
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I know what you mean. I was in the same situation 7 months ago and I probably even read that same board. I bet that whoever said data didn't work forgot to configure the APN settings. I was without data for almost the entire first day with my X until I realized I had to input the APN settings myself.
I can't confirm or deny the numbers on the box (I lost the box), but it sounds like you did your research well. Unless the eBay seller was deliberately lying to you, you should be good. Congrats on your purchase and don't forget to get a nano SIM! (I got mine for $10 from a Wind retailer.)

Sorry, can't help. Ended up buying Nexus 5. I wish I was in Wind's service area but am not so never looked into that.

zAlbee said:
Yes I did, and yes it is! I've had it (XT1053 GSM Dev Edition) for 7 months now, and I use Wind data daily. It works very well. I can even get data at certain spots in the subway (near entrances and at above-ground stations).
I know what you mean. I was in the same situation 7 months ago and I probably even read that same board. I bet that whoever said data didn't work forgot to configure the APN settings. I was without data for almost the entire first day with my X until I realized I had to input the APN settings myself.
I can't confirm or deny the numbers on the box (I lost the box), but it sounds like you did your research well. Unless the eBay seller was deliberately lying to you, you should be good. Congrats on your purchase and don't forget to get a nano SIM! (I got mine for $10 from a Wind retailer.)
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That's great news! Thanks I'll be sure to check the APN settings also. Hopefully this thread clears up the situation for anyone else. I've been eyeing this device for a long time very excited to finally have one. How are the data speeds on Wind? I read they just recently finished upgrading all their towers to the HSPA+ standard and are now working on rolling out dual carrier HSPA+ also . Will be interesting to see how it fairs against Rogers 3G network once I get the phone and how well the Moto X's antenna can pick up Wind's signals
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mrbuddy said:
Sorry, can't help. Ended up buying Nexus 5. I wish I was in Wind's service area but am not so never looked into that.
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Bummer. The nexus 5 seems like a great device though was seriously considering it but touchless control and active display features of the moto x won me over.

Don't expect LTE speeds obviously, but they are fast enough for everything I do and I never worry about speeds. That includes streaming YouTube and music on my commute.
Anyway, i just did 5 speed tests standing in the same spot. The server was a bigger factor than the network I found. From top to bottom: Start, Teksavvy, Vmedia, Zero fail, Zero fail. All servers were listed as 14km away in "Toronto". I'm pretty sure this app is just computing the distance to downtown and not the actual server...
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[Q] Moto X vs. Moto G: Which to Gift

Hi everyone,
I'm looking to gift a new smartphone to my wife this holiday. She is by no means an Android power-user. I'm debating between the X and the G (I snagged a discount code for the X). I know the spec rundown for both devices, but I'm not sure I can justify nearly double the cost for the X. I'm looking for input from people who may have used both devices. Which would you choose as a daily-driver for a non-techie and why?
Thanks.

I think a custom Moto X in her favorite color(s) would be awesome for her imo. And you will get LTE to boot. The Moto G doesn't have LTE to my knowledge correct?
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For a young kid a moto g but for your wife a moto x.

I don't think it's any contest on which is the far better phone. I would get the X with the discount code.
That's if she will actually use and enjoy a smartphone. If she's not going to make much use of it, of course the cheaper phone is the way to go - but she'll have a better experience on the Moto X.

My understanding, and granted, this is perhaps based on several week old information, was that the biggest difference between the X and the G was the lack of active notifications in the G. I'd say it depends on just how non techy savvy your wife is ... Personally, I'm eying the G as my mother's next phone, to ease her into a smart phone. If your wife has at least android experience, then would probably be wiser to go the route of the X.

There are a lot of differences between the X and the G. Active notifications is one. The G has no LTE, no always-on listening, no assist modes, less RAM (so it will be more prone to stuttering when lots of applications are running), and a slower CPU/GPU so it won't feel as fast.
I mean, it appears to be a tremendous phone for under $200, and a great phone for anyone looking to start out in the smartphone area, but it's definitely not just a tiny step down from the X.

It would be a close call if not for the discount code. 350 is a steal for the experience of the moto X.

I had the exact problem. I had ordered 2 Moto G's for my daughter and her husband. Then they announced the Promo Sale for the Moto X. I went with the Moto X's and I am completely happy with that decesion. I think your wife will be really impressed the Moto X's extra abilities that no other phone offers. Whatever you decide you will have a great phone.

SemTechie said:
Hi everyone,
I'm looking to gift a new smartphone to my wife this holiday. She is by no means an Android power-user. I'm debating between the X and the G (I snagged a discount code for the X). I know the spec rundown for both devices, but I'm not sure I can justify nearly double the cost for the X. I'm looking for input from people who may have used both devices. Which would you choose as a daily-driver for a non-techie and why?
Thanks.
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I would say the biggest difference by far for a non-techie is the LTE on the X. That alone should decide your choice if your network supports 4g it's a no brainer
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4G. Much better camera. Active notifications. At $350 it's a no-brainer.

SemTechie said:
Hi everyone,
I'm looking to gift a new smartphone to my wife this holiday. She is by no means an Android power-user. I'm debating between the X and the G (I snagged a discount code for the X). I know the spec rundown for both devices, but I'm not sure I can justify nearly double the cost for the X. I'm looking for input from people who may have used both devices. Which would you choose as a daily-driver for a non-techie and why?
Thanks.
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Thanks for all the input. It turns out the G may be my only option. We are on a T-mo prepaid MVNO. The Moto Maker (and the discount) only allow purchases tied to the Big Four. (even with no contract). Has anyone successfully used the T-mo Moto Maker Moto X on a T-mo prepaid MVNO?
I remember putting my wife's old T-mo phone onto the MVNO without unlocking it, but it's a bit of a risk to purchase the X hoping to do that again. And the discount doesn't apply to the Dev edition. Thoughts?

SemTechie said:
Thanks for all the input. It turns out the G may be my only option. We are on a T-mo prepaid MVNO. The Moto Maker (and the discount) only allow purchases tied to the Big Four. (even with no contract). Has anyone successfully used the T-mo Moto Maker Moto X on a T-mo prepaid MVNO?
I remember putting my wife's old T-mo phone onto the MVNO without unlocking it, but it's a bit of a risk to purchase the X hoping to do that again. And the discount doesn't apply to the Dev edition. Thoughts?
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Ya you can its sim-unlocked by default. I bought the tmo motomaker version and use it freely on at&t straight talk. It'll work with a tmo prepaid plan or mvno easily.
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Thanks. Now I may have to cancel my order for the G... Just when I thought Christmas was sewed up.
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If she's a non techie.... Honestly get the g. Then take her out to dinner or buy her another gift that you know shell like.
Most people really dont care about phones and honestly asking a bunch of xda people whar to do is probably pointless.
Moto g is plenty good and if you are on an mvno that doesn't have LTE shell barely care. Or buy her a moto g AND a nexus 7 or an iPad or something.

moto x as a gift
SemTechie said:
Hi everyone,
I'm looking to gift a new smartphone to my wife this holiday. She is by no means an Android power-user. I'm debating between the X and the G (I snagged a discount code for the X). I know the spec rundown for both devices, but I'm not sure I can justify nearly double the cost for the X. I'm looking for input from people who may have used both devices. Which would you choose as a daily-driver for a non-techie and why?
Thanks.
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The perfect gift for your wife... MOTO X.... Ive got one and I love the specs.

Indian here. Planning on getting a 32GB Moto X. Need to know if it'll work in India.

Hi. I'm based in Bangalore, India. I plan to get a 32GB Moto X with a Bamboo back from a friend in the States. I have a few questions about it, if anybody would be kind to help that'd be awesome.
1) Is there an unlocked version of the device and will it work in India?
2) How much would the device cost me including tax? I know tax laws are different according to state but I'd like to know the price range it would fall in.
3) More general questions about the phone: Is it of a durable build quality? How's the camera? I've read a ton of reviews but I want to know some real life comments. Also, I don't want to accidentally crack my screen from the smallest drop and get into the trouble of having to send the phone overseas back to the USA for customer support.

Pm me I'll tell u in detailed
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It should work in india. I sent an att moto x and my friend is using it from 3 months. Normal moto x from motomaker would cost you 399+tax. Not sure about the wooden ones. Camera is bad other than that everything is great in this phone

Camera ain't bad better than most of phones
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zeabagsfull said:
Hi. I'm based in Bangalore, India. I plan to get a 32GB Moto X with a Bamboo back from a friend in the States. I have a few questions about it, if anybody would be kind to help that'd be awesome.
1) Is there an unlocked version of the device and will it work in India?
2) How much would the device cost me including tax? I know tax laws are different according to state but I'd like to know the price range it would fall in.
3) More general questions about the phone: Is it of a durable build quality? How's the camera? I've read a ton of reviews but I want to know some real life comments. Also, I don't want to accidentally crack my screen from the smallest drop and get into the trouble of having to send the phone overseas back to the USA for customer support.
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Works perfectly man, but obviously we dont have 4G but everything else just works fine!! I am on Vodafone... Bangalore!

But don't get Verizon or att customized version of the Verizon or att doesn't work on gsm
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L7iharsha said:
But don't get Verizon or att customized version of the Verizon or att doesn't work on gsm
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Wat. I think you mean Sprint. AT&T is a GSM network...

Sprint cdma doesn't work with Indian gsm carriers and Att customized not unlockable and recently I got Customized Verizon one I can't use gsm reason Verizon blocked gsm only I can use cdma
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If you use gsm and want a moto maker one with bamboo, etc, your best option is the t mobile version. Its the same hardware as the gsm Dev edition, is factory Sim unlocked, and carries the most freq bands.
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Actually I'm getting signal but only few minutes and immediately it showing emergency only or no service but one weird thing is I can access internet whatever 3G or 2G
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I have ordered Moto x 16GB unlocked which cost me 423$ --> 24$ tax for Pennsylvania

Sorry for hijacking this thread. I thought it better to post in this one than start a new one since my query is similar.
My question is which edition of Moto X is being sold in India? It is definitely an unlocked gsm phone as far as I know.
I would be moving to California for a little while and was wondering if I could use my Indian Moto X there on a prepaid gsm network like T-Mobile.
Any help would be appreciated.
Can't post the link to the Indian Moto x here due to new member restrictions. But it's being sold exclusively on flipkart.com

Frustrated with Swappa to buy my X

I'm trying to shop on Swappa for a Moto X and there is no way to discern carrier unlocked and bootloader unlocked..
What do I need to know about this phone when purchasing used? I cannot live without root and found a thread about the Chinaman that's unlocking phones again but only for phones manufactured this year.
Anything else I should know about?
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abuttino said:
I'm trying to shop on Swappa for a Moto X and there is no way to discern carrier unlocked and bootloader unlocked..
What do I need to know about this phone when purchasing used? I cannot live without root and found a thread about the Chinaman that's unlocking phones again but only for phones manufactured this year.
Anything else I should know about?
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It sounds like you want a GSM Moto X, correct?
If so, just find the T-MOBILE variant. The T-Mobile Moto X is essentially the "GSM Dev Edition". It is SIM-Unlockable (or already sim-unlocked), and unlike the AT&T variant, it has unlockable bootloader.....FREE, straight from the Moto website. (No intervention from China required) The model is XT1053
So don't rely on the sellers description...just make sure you buy the T-Mobile variant. (XT1053)
I agree with you...swappa can be confusing on these terms. According to swappa, "unlocked" is supposed to refer to SIM unlocked, NOT BL unlocked. But many of the sellers don't read these rules and some even assume that if they have used some exploit to root the device that it is "unlocked"....which of course is totally incorrect.
You should be safe so long as it you buy XT1053. If you're unsure, request the seller to verify. Just because it is listed under XT1053 doesn't mean the seller couldn't have made a mistake. The model number is on the bottom rear of the phone in small print.
EDIT: The 1053 MAY not have the model number printed on the bottom rear....but the AT&T model DOES (avoid it at all costs - AT&T model comes sim locked AND bootloader locked). Better yet, ask the seller to send you a screenshot from Settings > About Phone. Under "System Version" it will list the carrier. The XT1053 should say:
"161.44.25.ghost_row.Retail.en.US"
It is the ONLY variant to say Retail.en.US - all the other variants have a carrier name in the "System Version"

Actually, I wanted the Verizon version.. Sorry that I forgot to add that in..
I could care less if it is carrier unlocked . I don't travel outside the usa for now.
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abuttino said:
Actually, I wanted the Verizon version.. Sorry that I forgot to add that in..
I could care less if it is carrier unlocked . I don't travel outside the usa for now.
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OK, then you have 2 choices.
1. Buy the Verizon Developer Edition. This is the only Verizon variant that can be Bootloader unlocked FREE via the moto website
2. All other VZW variants WILL come bootloader locked. If you can get the seller to confirm a 2014 build date, you may be able to get an unlock code from China, but there is no guarantee. He will also not tell you if he has the code unless you PAY for it....so there are absolutely no guarantees here.
Looking through the swappa website, I don't see any VZW developer editions for sale. This will be a tough one for you....unless you happen to come across one that explicitly says "unlocked bootloader", but this will mean that he HAD to have gotten code from China, and your warranty will be VOID.
I did find ONE VZW Dev edition on eBay here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-Mo...1199176524?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item2c845be74c
There is a second one listed, but at $549 I doubt you're interested. You could buy Direct from Motorola for less.
Also, CONSIDER purchasing direct from Motorola. Think about it....if you buy the VZW Dev edition direct from Motorola, you will be able to unlock for FREE, without losing your warranty. Additionally, there is a $100 "Jellybean Rebate" for trading in a qualifying USED device. One of the qualifying trade-ins is the "Motorola Admiral" which you can get used off ebay for about $20 shipped. Buy one and send it in for the $100 rebate! I've done this 4 times now (max of 5 rebates allowed per individual - one per each Moto X you buy) and have received all of my rebates.
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumer...Verizon/moto-x-developer-edition-verizon.html
Do the math:
$449.00 VZW Dev Edition direct from Motorola
+ 20.00 Motorola Admiral used from ebay
= $469.00
- $100.00 Moto Jellybean rebate
= $369.00
Assuming you get one of the cheapest VZW X's on swappa for about $250.00, you will still need to send $45 to China (with no guarantee of unlock, and definitely NO warranty) So you're just saving $80 over the brand new dev edition that you can DEFINITELY unlock, and that retains warranty even after unlock.
Good Luck with this.

Thank you for the heads up about the JB rebate
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samwathegreat said:
....Looking through the swappa website, I don't see any VZW developer editions for sale. This will be a tough one for you....unless you happen to come across one that explicitly says "unlocked bootloader", but this will mean that he HAD to have gotten code from China, and your warranty will be VOID..
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One small note... Per the docs that came with my X, the warranty on the X is non-transferable, so buying used off swappa, ebay, etc also invalidates the warranty.
Otherwise, everything else you posted is an awesome reply.

abuttino said:
Thank you for the heads up about the JB rebate
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If you buy it TODAY or TOMORROW you can get it $100 off! The Dev edition is 349.99 -before- the rebate.
This would be the ideal time to purchase your VZW Dev Edition!
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumer...Verizon/moto-x-developer-edition-verizon.html
You may have already seen this, but I wanted to post it as a reply so you would get an email notification just in case you hadn't.
If you buy the $20 admiral for the JB rebate, you're looking at $269 after rebate.

Too late.. But thanks for all your effort
I am waiting for the Chinese. But, at least he's honest
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XT1053 broken, looking at my options

I have XT1053 and it is broken. I use it on AT&T and LTE support is important. It was on 4.2.2 and I never upgraded to 4.4 as it seemed all later versions just brought different problems and I never needed any new features. I haven't followed 5.1 too much but if it was any good there would not be threads here about downgrading, right?
My options are (I need to do something fast because I leave for vacation in Europe at the end of the month and would like to use phone there. I don't want anything larger than 5"):
1) Send it to Motorola and for $100 they will fix it. Probably just replace with refurb. But what version of Android will it come with? Does anyone know?
2) Get 2014 Moto X, but what version? It seems "Pure Edition" (XT1095) didn't support AT& LTE bands out of the box but they were upgraded later and that enabled it. Yet I found posts that AT&T IMEI database apparently doesn't list XT1095 as having these bands and phone doesn't connect to LTE on AT&T. One has to proved IMEI from another phone. My AT&T SIM is now associated with 1053, so maybe I would be OK?
has Lollipop upgrade on 2014 Moto X been as bad as it was on 2013?
3) Get XT1097 (AT&T version of Moto X 2014) - I don't like the fact that it only comes with 16GB of storage. Also, can it be rooted/bootloader/SIM unlocked?
4) Get some other phone and here I just don't know what to consider in 5" size because I haven't been following Android phones recently.
Feedback and answers appreciated.

You could wait for the new nexus.
Apparently a 5 inch nexus will be released.
Otherwise, you don't really have many options for 5 inch phone.
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