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Front Camera Hotness

Okay, so I finally did it. This evening after work I took my phone (Att Tilt), some torx drivers, some tiny philips and sat down at my desk. With a beer in hand, my phone in pieces, and the front camera from a kaiser on the desk in front of me, I made awesome happen.
Now, the fact that I was three or four beers deep by the time I finished probably contributed to the hairline crack in my case near the new camera, but that's nothing some superglue won't fix. At any rate, my Att Tilt now has a front camera, and it was auto recognized by the camera software. Needless to say, this is awesome - the next step is to flash a rom that supports all the nifty things I can do with a front facing camera, and make the most of what I now have.
Here's where I get confused, though - all my poking about on the forum and elsewhere seemed to say that this wasn't possible - that the tilt /could not/ be modified to have a front camera. Was I misreading things that badly?
If it helps, I've got some very blurry pictures (my camera's a piece of junk), and might take some more if people want.
Love to hear back.

Nice work Harrson...BTW, a few questions...
Do you have to dismantle the whole phone or can you do it just by removing the torx screws behind the sliding screen?
And is the front camera of the tilt modular? cause i hawked a camera off an old treo 650 and I know it's angled diferrently from the tilt as to the wire but do you just pop it on the front camera module? thanks

dtag said:
Nice work Harrson...BTW, a few questions...
Do you have to dismantle the whole phone or can you do it just by removing the torx screws behind the sliding screen?
And is the front camera of the tilt modular? cause i hawked a camera off an old treo 650 and I know it's angled diferrently from the tilt as to the wire but do you just pop it on the front camera module? thanks
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I was not able to find a method of removing the front cover by itself, and had to go through the entire disassembly (just about) as detailed at Mike Channon's website, removing all those damned tiny screws and bending distressingly thin pieces of plastic to get to the front case.
The front camera is modular, yes - it's a tiny little thing comprised of a small camera(about the size of a pea or so) mounted on a flat flexible cable kind of thing, which terminates in one of those miniature plugs that you find elsewhere inside the phone. The socket lives under the front cover, right next to the power/wifi/bluetooth LEDs near the earpiece.
On my Tilt, the cavity that was intended to hold the camera had been filled by a cube of black foam rubber that had been glued to the board (which you can kind of see in my crappy picture). I removed that, plugged in the camera, and reassembled.
(I apologize for the atrocious pictures - as I said, the camera's a piece of junk)
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LOL! WOW! Thanks, I'll try it soon

dtag said:
Nice work Harrson...BTW, a few questions...
Do you have to dismantle the whole phone or can you do it just by removing the torx screws behind the sliding screen?
And is the front camera of the tilt modular? cause i hawked a camera off an old treo 650 and I know it's angled diferrently from the tilt as to the wire but do you just pop it on the front camera module? thanks
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As to using the camera from another HTC phone, I called HTC about using the one from the TYTN 1 (which I'd bought off of ebay without knowing any better), and I was told that the part numbers were different. Now, I have no idea whether or not the parts are technically compatible (but geometrically different), or if they're just no good for each other (like alcohol and me).

Sweet!
That's pretty sweet! What are you using the front camera for?
Jamie

jamieay said:
That's pretty sweet! What are you using the front camera for?
Jamie
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Um... Not much, actually. Not yet, anyway.
See, the next step in my plan was to flash my rom to something with a 3g dialer and something a damn sight quicker than the stock rom - I've been eyeing the latest stable Phoenix release for a while now, but I admit that I've been hesitant for fear of bricking my phone.
Really, I've just been showing it off, and hoping that someone who sees it will ask "Oh, cool! Are you using it with application X?" and inadvertently give me a good idea, and then I can say "Application X? That's old news - I haven't used application X in, like, months!" And then I'll go download application X immediately.
In truth, I haven't been able to find all that much in the way of video chat for Windows Mobile, whether over wifi or 3g.
Anyone heard of anything good?

Ignore this post - deleted duplicate of above.

Htc hd2 front camera

Did anyone ever think about installing/making this possible? Like with a spare Evo front camera or something? Just a thought. I'm not even sure if it's possible. But if it was I would be interested.

LOL: it would be impossible since no hardware support for front cam, the sensor on top left is a photo sensor which is used for Brightness adjustment and proximity measurement

I have 2 phone's with front cam and i think i have used them twice.
When do you need a front cam ?
Do you video call with your girlfriend.
No. i do not use it, and i do not miss it on the HTC HD2

I know about the proximity sensor and stuff. And I do video chat. And couldn't someone make software to run it. It would be interesting. Maybe put it on the right side...
No need for the hostility either. Just a thought.

maybe someone will mod a USB laptop camera and gorilla glue it to the front?

DrewMullen said:
maybe someone will mod a USB laptop camera and gorilla glue it to the front?
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lol
I'm gonna install a Core i7 into mine - it's time for the upgradings
(upgrade spelled wrong intentionally)

I think it's impossible. Use mirror.

i do not miss a front camera at all

now that skype supports video call. Front camera on skype would be a dream for me on hd2

it would be nice, but most likely impossible

So where are you going to solder that camera to if you manage to drill the plastic part of the center frame? I don't see any room on the motherboard...

in fact there has a most simple (and cheapest ) way to get a "front cam function" with your HD2, all you need to do is to find a small vanity mirror like this:
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or this:
then open it in 90° angle and put this mirror behind of your hd2, in front of camera. now you can launch your camera app and adjust the mirror to the best position to show your face in app.
Done!
it's so easy! isn't it? the only bug is your face is inverse in app (if you are graduated from school you should know why), but who care! video talk is just for fun for most people! so you want it, you get it!
PS: you still need use a app which support not just front cam but also main cam, to do this. it's the only limitation my dud.

einstein is here

ok. someone has made a more "beautiful" mirror.
here's the link:
http://www.ciccaresedesign.com/?page_id=46
I think it will cost a little more than my "cheapest" way, but it's still a nice choice. people always like getting more choices, so here you are.

poiuyasdfg said:
ok. someone has made a more "beautiful" mirror.
here's the link:
http://www.ciccaresedesign.com/?page_id=46
I think it will cost a little more than my "cheapest" way, but it's still a nice choice. people always like getting more choices, so here you are.
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Too bad its only a prototype. i would get it.

Wow you people have wayyyy too much free time

Haha good find
Sent from my HTC HD2

Is this thing for sale or only the whole project? I would buy one of this things..
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yugoport said:
Is this thing for sale or only the whole project? I would buy one of this things..
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The whole idea is for sale for manufacturing. If this happens I'm gonna get my hands on one of these.

Very good invention. But i rather buy something it had built in, no fall out and all way there when i need it.

Galaxy ACE stylus pen?

That's it, I would like to know if anyone has try a stylus pen on ACE. I'm a drawer and painter and I would love to use the Sketchbook app with a pen but I don't know if that would be possible. I tried with a DIY one, that one was for iphone, and didn't work, so what do you think?

Make one with a finger touch ;-)
Sga having a capacitive touch screen only soft fingers touches respond...
[practice random acts of kindness and selfless acts of love]

Lol, thanx! I've been using that app with my finger. The thing is that I saw on ebay, amazon and so, stylus pens for galaxy ACE, but I don't know if it's scam or they truly work

I tried a 10€ capacitive stylus from a retail shop. I don't think you will find it very useful for painting, as it is has a 6mm diameter, but it does work and it will keep your screen clean of fingerprints. I had some trouble swiping, because the rubber tip feels a bit sticky, leading to false taps. Also, mine didn't last very long: after a month or so the rubber tip became too sticky. I know there are styli with cloth tips but I have yet to find one.

I've found several today on an hawker, one of these stylus work well for write or play but I think isn't suitable to draw..

well, if a stylus works on the galaxy note, i dont really see any reason why it shouldnt work on the ace. After all, one capacitive screen works the same way as the other, only the backlight differs(led,etc)

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this is under 2 US$. works fine.

Ok! Thank you so much for your answers! So it works, no matter if it's not really really helpful for drawing but works anyway. You were very helpful, thanx again!!

i think u can use by Pen Galaxy Note ...

What for? You don't have fingers?

i3ooter said:
i think u can use by Pen Galaxy Note ...
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I tried it, it doesnt work

tendo12 said:
What for? You don't have fingers?
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READ the first post dude. For drawing

I use this and works very fine:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-Metal-L...ccessories&hash=item336fc7e086#ht_5170wt_1081

Interesting!

I bought one from Dealextreme and you really have to push it against the screen to work. Otherwise it will leave a dotted line. It's similar to the other Chinese ones posted here.

I have an awesome idea use an ear bud and put some extra cotton on if an make it a little wet with water and Viola your home made stylus I'd ready.
it really worked and I even typed this message with it

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I have an awesome idea use an ear bud and put some extra cotton on if an make it a little wet with water and Viola your home made stylus I'd ready.
it really worked and I even typed this message with it
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He he..superb idea bro

I use my thumb as natural stylus

This suits for tab n note i think

the stylus's on ebay work just fine, but as someone else said, the tip is fairly large so for drawing dont expect much.
depends what drawing software you are using as well, if its one that supports pinch and zoom then you will get reasonable results, but again, never going to produce superb results.
But the ebay ones are about $2 so its not really money wasted. You can still use it for typing, playing games etc.

Review: InfiniApps Magnet Car Mount

Got this a few days ago for $30 on ebay and love it. I honestly couldn't go with anything other than magnetic - it's so easy and convenient to just quickly sit your phone against the mount or pull it back for texting at a light, etc. There really isn't much to say since the concept is pretty simple. The suction base works well on my textured dash and the magnet grips well. I haven't used it on a race track or anything but I don't take corners or always accelerate super slow either and the phone never budges. It's also great that the dock works with any phone so if you share your car or get a new device, you don't have to change mounts or have more than one. The only way it could be improved is if it had wireless charging built in too (though for verizon versions this wouldn't help most). But the phones battery is good enough that it shouldn't need to be plugged in for any trips that aren't very long anyways.
Also, I recommend the free app "IntelliScreen" with this. The app makes it so the screen won't timeout when certain apps are up on the screen (and it does some other stuff too). I made it so the music and maps app don't timeout so that I don't have to constantly hit the screen button while driving to see and control things.
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Looks like the imagnet, do you think they are neodymium magnets inside?
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any pictures of it on your phone and dash? not to mention magnets and spen problems?

Buzz20 said:
Looks like the imagnet, do you think they are neodymium magnets inside?
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I'm not positive but when the phone is put around half an inch from it or so, it easily sticks to the mount. It's not strong enough where it's difficult to pull off, but I actually believe I could go to a race track and record video from my phone's camera while it is on the mount and not have any problems with it moving/falling. I had seen the imagnet at first on amazon and was going to get that, but this one doesn't look like it's an iphone accessory so I won't have people asking/thinking I have an iphone that I give rides to, if I don't put my phone on it.
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any pictures of it on your phone and dash? not to mention magnets and spen problems?
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I didn't think of the spen because I don't ever really use it. I just tried it out and it doesn't work where the magnet is. However, it's so quick to take it off the mount and imo it's a lot more convenient to write/draw on it in your hand, so it shouldn't be a problem for a lot of people if not most. Navigation and everything else still works though.
I will also get a picture of the phone on the mount tonight.

Magnetic mounts are the way to go! Got a link?

mrnamster said:
Magnetic mounts are the way to go! Got a link?
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Here is a link.
http://www.infiniappstand.com/
It is exactly the same as iMagnet - READ

Lord Sekhmet said:
Here is a link.
http://www.infiniappstand.com/
It is exactly the same as iMagnet - READ
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Probably identical products, owned by the same parent company, selling under dual brands. It increases market exposure.
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Proper screen protector??

Have ordered 2 tempered screen protectors off eBay and both don't fit properly at all(people just capitalize on new products to make a quick buck). Can anyone link me to a screen protector that actually covers entire screen and doesn't mess up sound or functionality of phone, thanks

I read somewhere in the forums that this one covers the full area -> HERE
My still has not arrived, but I am optimistic about it.

xchatter said:
I read somewhere in the forums that this one covers the full area -> HERE
My still has not arrived, but I am optimistic about it.
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Let me know, shipping is far huh

xxfirerican said:
Let me know, shipping is far huh
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I owned the one by local seller which linked above. I've never seen such a terrible screen protector ever. The black frames of the protector are wider than device's so it decreases the screen visibility in very tiny amount. It's material is horrible, decreases the screen visibility under the sunlight(Reflections). Although it's perfectly applied, 2 days later a rainbow lake is appeared on the bottom which really sucks. One last thing, there are little dots all around which makes TFT display effect or something, im using it just because i couldn't any other. This also sucks but better than the second protector below in attachment.
The one is linked above:
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And the one which is hovered badly because of curved area:
Mi MIX
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xxfirerican said:
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Hi again. I got the protector. I am attaching some pictures with it, and also some extra shots with the iMatch case for the Mix.
The protector fits perfectly compared to others I have, I am really satisfied. It is a bit strange, because it basically sticks only on the sides(the darker parts on the pics) and not the whole area like the other protectors, but it does not make any difference to me since there are no disatvantages from this for now. Another thing to mention is that it is a fingerprint magnet, which is a minus.
For the case - i am posting it in case anyone is interested in it also.
P.S. @Konsstantine34 have some point in his comments. I thing the main advantage of it is indeed that it is the most "fullscreen" I could find and that it sticks right on this curved screen. My previous one started to unstick on the edges just like Konsstantine's.

xchatter said:
Hi again. I got the protector. I am attaching some pictures with it, and also some extra shots with the iMatch case for the Mix.
The protector fits perfectly compared to others I have, I am really satisfied. It is a bit strange, because it basically sticks only on the sides(the darker parts on the pics) and not the whole area like the other protectors, but it does not make any difference to me since there are no disatvantages from this for now. Another thing to mention is that it is a fingerprint magnet, which is a minus.
For the case - i am posting it in case anyone is interested in it also.
P.S. @Konsstantine34 have some point in his comments. I thing the main advantage of it is indeed that it is the most "fullscreen" I could find and that it sticks right on this curved screen. My previous one started to unstick on the edges just like Konsstantine's.
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Thanks for the case pictures, I have ordered the same recently and now I am sure that it is as nice as I hoped it is.