With the unlocked bootloader via moto maker, do you think it will have to be purchased full outright cost or do you think it will be available on contract for a discounted price.
Mjduddin said:
With the unlocked bootloader via moto maker, do you think it will have to be purchased full outright cost or do you think it will be available on contract for a discounted price.
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If your on ATT or Tmobile you probably have the option to buy the Pure Edition model. I'm not sure if you can get it on a new contract or upgrade price but I think Moto maker will tell you. They should tell you when you go to check out. Or you can always call your carrier and find out. Hope this helps.
The only one that is unlockable is the XT1095 Pure Edition. It is capable of being unlocked, but is not by default. The Verizon and AT&T ones will have locked bootloaders and cannot be unlocked. That is the tradeoff you have to make for the subsidized price.
Something to note though, is Motorola is doing a 0% interest promotion for 12 or 18 months for purchases through the Motomaker web site. At 18 months this is the same set up that you'd have if you bought the phone on the AT&T Next plan (which basically is an unsubsidized phone with a no interest payment plan).
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Question, can I buy an off contract Moto X via the Motomaker website while not being an at&t customer? or do I have to be an at&t customer to start with?
To my knowledge you will have to be an ATT customer, either in the past or signing up for a new contract on purchase.
However,
Rumor has it that the Moto Maker program will come to more carriers (at least Verizon) in November.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/5/4805458/moto-maker-reportedly-coming-to-verizon-november-11th
Thanks wudien, I guess there's no way (yet) for me to get a customized moto x if I'm not in the country..
I think you can; that's what I did originally and I've never had any AT&T service (I'm on T-Mobile). Bought it off contract and it didn't ask me anything about my carrier. All I had to do was pop in my SIM card, and SIM Unlock the device (which costs a few dollars online). Ended up returning it for the regular TMO version so it would work with their 3G bands.
Do all off contract moto xs still have carrier branding? I dont find it pointless but why have the carrier branding when you specifically bought off contract to be away from the carrier for a reason. Its not as big of a deal as say on other devices like an lg g2 but i still would like to not have verizon on my phone. Anyway to not have it?
My understanding is that only the T Mobile version is provided without carrier branding.
And sprint.
And Rogers
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I understand if I buy a phone, in store, off the shelf that it'll have the carrier branding. But with Motomaker, there is no reason to have it on a custom one when you buy it out right.
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I am with you 100%. I just bought my Moto X last night under the impression that it's not locked to any carrier. And that it's unlocked. However, I find out this morning after talking to customer support that the phone is locked to AT&T. I thought high of Motorola before but they are flat out liars. When they posted the promotion on their website for Cyber Monday, it clearly said "Unlocked Moto X" phone for $349; discounted $150 for Cyber Monday.
The number of phones sold off contract is so insignificant that the cost to change the production to not print on them probably wouldn't be worth the added cost. Sure, for phones like the Developer Edition that can only be purchased off-contract, I could see an argument, but they aren't going to change their product for 1% of their sales.
somebody posted a pic of the VZW dev. edition with the VZW logo AND the Dev. edition printing remved from the back of the phone. IIRC, the buyer scraped it off with a scissors.
I may do the same to the VZW logo on my DE.
So no way a sprint moto x would work on verizon would it? Both CDMA and sprint is bootloader unlocked and therefore could you flash vzw dev edition roms on it? i really dont want that verizon logo haha
It was posted 349 off contract for any carrier. There was no sign of saying it's unlocked. U must have read it wrong.
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I think what really annoys me too is that when im buying off contract im expecting it not to be carrier tied or i would have boughten it ON contract. So for verizon i personally just dont want that bloat wear or any of that junk. Guess theres no option?
I hate to be that guy, but... Does it really matter? I don't care for Verizon's logo either, but it doesn't look horrible. It's subtle.
Yesterday I was able to get a promo code for "unlocked" Moto X on Motorola website. They had the Cyber Monday promotion. I placed my order last night and when I received the order confirmation, it showed "Moto X for AT&t". So, I called Moto's customer service this morning and they kept telling me that the promotion was never for an "unlocked" phone; it was for an off-contract phone. I am 100% sure the website promotion showed "Unlocked" Moto X for $349. Why else would people jump all over it and buy the limited quantity within 7-minutes?
Can somebody please clarify this for me? Was the promotion for an "Unlocked" Moto X or an off-contract "Moto X"?
Thanks much!
Fremens_Dune said:
Yesterday I was able to get a promo code for "unlocked" Moto X on Motorola website. They had the Cyber Monday promotion. I placed my order last night and when I received the order confirmation, it showed "Moto X for AT&t". So, I called Moto's customer service this morning and they kept telling me that the promotion was never for an "unlocked" phone; it was for an off-contract phone. I am 100% sure the website promotion showed "Unlocked" Moto X for $349. Why else would people jump all over it and buy the limited quantity within 7-minutes?
Can somebody please clarify this for me? Was the promotion for an "Unlocked" Moto X or an off-contract "Moto X"?
Thanks much!
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Off contract.
aooga said:
Off contract.
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Will At&t unlock it for me if I show them that I bought it from Motorola at full price and show them the receipt? I don't want to sign up with At&t.
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Will At&t unlock it for me if I show them that I bought it from Motorola at full price and show them the receipt? I don't want to sign up with At&t.
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Nope. What carrier do you have?
aooga said:
Nope. What carrier do you have?
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I currently have boost mobile but I wanted to get the Moto X unlocked so that I could switch to other GSM networks such as At&t, T-Mobile, or Straight talk. Since I paid the full price of the phone, I wanted the flexibility of switching to any carrier I want. Is that not possible?
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I currently have boost mobile but I wanted to get the Moto X unlocked so that I could switch to other GSM networks such as At&t, T-Mobile, or Straight talk. Since I paid the full price of the phone, I wanted the flexibility of switching to any carrier I want. Is that not possible?
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Not with AT&T. You can use those unlocking sites that cost around $15, but I wouldn't.
For your situation, I would get the tmobile variant. Its sim unlocked and bootloader unlockable. You can get it from motomaker as well, just choose it at the carrier selection tab at the end. It doesn't have any tmobile branding or logos or anything. It'll work on all the GSM carriers, LTE and HSPA.
aooga said:
Not with AT&T. You can use those unlocking sites that cost around $15, but I wouldn't.
For your situation, I would get the tmobile variant. Its sim unlocked and bootloader unlockable. You can get it from motomaker as well, just choose it at the carrier selection tab at the end. It doesn't have any tmobile branding or logos or anything. It'll work on all the GSM carriers, LTE and HSPA.
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Thanks, you have been a great help.
I am getting ready to order a couple of X's for my wife and me. I have a couple of questions....
We are with at&t. Is there a difference between the at&t branded ones and the GSM dev models? I have Googled this, but I am still confused as to whether there are hardware differences which would make the dev model less useful on at&t and whether there is bloat on the at&t model....
We have a SG4 and an iPhone 5 which still under contract which we will keep as spares for the family. I assume that we can buy the X at&t branded through Moto Maker without a contract? and just stay on the plan?
Thank you. I have spent hours on this and I am still confused, probably because it keeps changing....
I would like to know to. I'm getting ready to buy a moto x also
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I am getting ready to order a couple of X's for my wife and me. I have a couple of questions....
We are with at&t. Is there a difference between the at&t branded ones and the GSM dev models? I have Googled this, but I am still confused as to whether there are hardware differences which would make the dev model less useful on at&t and whether there is bloat on the at&t model....
We have a SG4 and an iPhone 5 which still under contract which we will keep as spares for the family. I assume that we can buy the X at&t branded through Moto Maker without a contract? and just stay on the plan?
Thank you. I have spent hours on this and I am still confused, probably because it keeps changing....
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the developer edition are unlocked and u can unlock ur bootloader without losing ur warranty
being unlocked u can use with other carriers
if u buy at&t u can use only with at&t
if u want a phone that u can use with gsm carriers and with other carriers take or a developer edition or a unlockable one without contract
I got the T-Mobile unlockable (and unbranded!) version from Motomaker off-contract. Works great on AT&T and it beat paying the extra dough for a developer edition, since it's practically the same damn thing! (I also don't care about voiding warranty having unlocked my bootloader. I take care of my phone. If warranty is something you desire, then go dev edition or stick with your current carrier's version).
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I got the T-Mobile unlockable (and unbranded!) version from Motomaker off-contract. Works great on AT&T and it beat paying the extra dough for a developer edition, since it's practically the same damn thing! (I also don't care about voiding warranty having unlocked my bootloader. I take care of my phone. If warranty is something you desire, then go dev edition or stick with your current carrier's version).
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I'm pretty sure the developer edition is the same price as the moto maker version so it won't cost any "extra dough." And it doesn't matter how well you care for your phone. That's not what a warranty is for. It covers failures NOT caused by the user. You could wrap your phone in bubble wrap, never flash a third party app, and only use it under tightly controlled environmental conditions, insuring the phone is never exposed to any abuse, and a part could still fail, thus necessitating the use of the warranty. Which you voided by unlocking the boot loader on a non-developer edition.
You can pick either the AT&T branded one, the T-Mobile variant, or the unlocked. The T-mobile is actually unbranded, SIM unlocked and has no carrier apps.
I'm in the same boat still in contract with AT&T and purchased the T-Mobile one to leave my options open to switch to T-Mobile later and be able to purchase SIM cards for use abroad without having to fight the death star to get an unlock code.
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I'm pretty sure the developer edition is the same price as the moto maker version so it won't cost any "extra dough." And it doesn't matter how well you care for your phone. That's not what a warranty is for. It covers failures NOT caused by the user. You could wrap your phone in bubble wrap, never flash a third party app, and only use it under tightly controlled environmental conditions, insuring the phone is never exposed to any abuse, and a part could still fail, thus necessitating the use of the warranty. Which you voided by unlocking the boot loader on a non-developer edition.
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If I could've bought the developer version easily I certainly would have.
But to me...I'll risk the 400 bucks to unlock..root..etc. I have on every device I've owned. LOL. I need my customization, battery life control..etc etc.
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Buy the unlocked one. Works just fine with att. I'm in the middle of my contract and just had to go to a store and pick up a new sim
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i think it is a good mob
so if you get it feed us back
I'm trying to shop on Swappa for a Moto X and there is no way to discern carrier unlocked and bootloader unlocked..
What do I need to know about this phone when purchasing used? I cannot live without root and found a thread about the Chinaman that's unlocking phones again but only for phones manufactured this year.
Anything else I should know about?
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abuttino said:
I'm trying to shop on Swappa for a Moto X and there is no way to discern carrier unlocked and bootloader unlocked..
What do I need to know about this phone when purchasing used? I cannot live without root and found a thread about the Chinaman that's unlocking phones again but only for phones manufactured this year.
Anything else I should know about?
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It sounds like you want a GSM Moto X, correct?
If so, just find the T-MOBILE variant. The T-Mobile Moto X is essentially the "GSM Dev Edition". It is SIM-Unlockable (or already sim-unlocked), and unlike the AT&T variant, it has unlockable bootloader.....FREE, straight from the Moto website. (No intervention from China required) The model is XT1053
So don't rely on the sellers description...just make sure you buy the T-Mobile variant. (XT1053)
I agree with you...swappa can be confusing on these terms. According to swappa, "unlocked" is supposed to refer to SIM unlocked, NOT BL unlocked. But many of the sellers don't read these rules and some even assume that if they have used some exploit to root the device that it is "unlocked"....which of course is totally incorrect.
You should be safe so long as it you buy XT1053. If you're unsure, request the seller to verify. Just because it is listed under XT1053 doesn't mean the seller couldn't have made a mistake. The model number is on the bottom rear of the phone in small print.
EDIT: The 1053 MAY not have the model number printed on the bottom rear....but the AT&T model DOES (avoid it at all costs - AT&T model comes sim locked AND bootloader locked). Better yet, ask the seller to send you a screenshot from Settings > About Phone. Under "System Version" it will list the carrier. The XT1053 should say:
"161.44.25.ghost_row.Retail.en.US"
It is the ONLY variant to say Retail.en.US - all the other variants have a carrier name in the "System Version"
Actually, I wanted the Verizon version.. Sorry that I forgot to add that in..
I could care less if it is carrier unlocked . I don't travel outside the usa for now.
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abuttino said:
Actually, I wanted the Verizon version.. Sorry that I forgot to add that in..
I could care less if it is carrier unlocked . I don't travel outside the usa for now.
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OK, then you have 2 choices.
1. Buy the Verizon Developer Edition. This is the only Verizon variant that can be Bootloader unlocked FREE via the moto website
2. All other VZW variants WILL come bootloader locked. If you can get the seller to confirm a 2014 build date, you may be able to get an unlock code from China, but there is no guarantee. He will also not tell you if he has the code unless you PAY for it....so there are absolutely no guarantees here.
Looking through the swappa website, I don't see any VZW developer editions for sale. This will be a tough one for you....unless you happen to come across one that explicitly says "unlocked bootloader", but this will mean that he HAD to have gotten code from China, and your warranty will be VOID.
I did find ONE VZW Dev edition on eBay here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-Mo...1199176524?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item2c845be74c
There is a second one listed, but at $549 I doubt you're interested. You could buy Direct from Motorola for less.
Also, CONSIDER purchasing direct from Motorola. Think about it....if you buy the VZW Dev edition direct from Motorola, you will be able to unlock for FREE, without losing your warranty. Additionally, there is a $100 "Jellybean Rebate" for trading in a qualifying USED device. One of the qualifying trade-ins is the "Motorola Admiral" which you can get used off ebay for about $20 shipped. Buy one and send it in for the $100 rebate! I've done this 4 times now (max of 5 rebates allowed per individual - one per each Moto X you buy) and have received all of my rebates.
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumer...Verizon/moto-x-developer-edition-verizon.html
Do the math:
$449.00 VZW Dev Edition direct from Motorola
+ 20.00 Motorola Admiral used from ebay
= $469.00
- $100.00 Moto Jellybean rebate
= $369.00
Assuming you get one of the cheapest VZW X's on swappa for about $250.00, you will still need to send $45 to China (with no guarantee of unlock, and definitely NO warranty) So you're just saving $80 over the brand new dev edition that you can DEFINITELY unlock, and that retains warranty even after unlock.
Good Luck with this.
Thank you for the heads up about the JB rebate
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....Looking through the swappa website, I don't see any VZW developer editions for sale. This will be a tough one for you....unless you happen to come across one that explicitly says "unlocked bootloader", but this will mean that he HAD to have gotten code from China, and your warranty will be VOID..
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One small note... Per the docs that came with my X, the warranty on the X is non-transferable, so buying used off swappa, ebay, etc also invalidates the warranty.
Otherwise, everything else you posted is an awesome reply.
abuttino said:
Thank you for the heads up about the JB rebate
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If you buy it TODAY or TOMORROW you can get it $100 off! The Dev edition is 349.99 -before- the rebate.
This would be the ideal time to purchase your VZW Dev Edition!
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumer...Verizon/moto-x-developer-edition-verizon.html
You may have already seen this, but I wanted to post it as a reply so you would get an email notification just in case you hadn't.
If you buy the $20 admiral for the JB rebate, you're looking at $269 after rebate.
Too late.. But thanks for all your effort
I am waiting for the Chinese. But, at least he's honest
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