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Dump my Note 3?

Hey guys, so I'm sitting on my $150 promo code while I consider dumping my Note 3 for a Moto X. Good idea?
I also have a couple questions. Do the active notifications keep breathing until you attend to them or does it stop breathing after a while? I heavily rely on the notification light on my Note 3 so I hope it keeps breathing.
My other question....I am on at&t. Can I root the phone?
Thanks!
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys, so I'm sitting on my $150 promo code while I consider dumping my Note 3 for a Moto X. Good idea?
I also have a couple questions. Do the active notifications keep breathing until you attend to them or does it stop breathing after a while? I heavily rely on the notification light on my Note 3 so I hope it keeps breathing.
My other question....I am on at&t. Can I root the phone?
Thanks!
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I think you need to ask yourself what dont you like about the Note 3. Also, why not just go and try the phone at any AT&T store?
As for rooting, yes, an AT&T phone can be rooted (I have the AT&T model myself) and yes, the notification keeps breathing until you either a. Unlock the phone, b. read the notification or c. dismiss it

anirudh412 said:
As for rooting, yes, an AT&T phone can be rooted (I have the AT&T model myself) and yes, the notification keeps breathing until you either a. Unlock the phone, b. read the notification or c. dismiss it
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It is very difficult to root. Pretty complicated and not for any but the most experienced, IMO.
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anirudh412 said:
I think you need to ask yourself what dont you like about the Note 3. Also, why not just go and try the phone at any AT&T store?
As for rooting, yes, an AT&T phone can be rooted (I have the AT&T model myself) and yes, the notification keeps breathing until you either a. Unlock the phone, b. read the notification or c. dismiss it
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Thanks for the input. The size of the Note 3 bugs me a little bit and the horrible wifi reception are my two main reasons. I went and played with the Moto X today and I was digging it.
Cubfan99 said:
It is very difficult to root. Pretty complicated and not for any but the most experienced, IMO.
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Oh yeah? How hard are we talking? I'm a pretty seasoned android user. Can you link me to the process?
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Thanks for the input. The size of the Note 3 bugs me a little bit and the horrible wifi reception are my two main reasons. I went and played with the Moto X today and I was digging it.
Oh yeah? How hard are we talking? I'm a pretty seasoned android user. Can you link me to the process?
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Its in the original android development. There are two posts. One is for 4.2.2 and the most recent 4.4.
There is a 3rd one but your phone will probably not be on 4.1.
It is not hard.....I don't know squat and was able to nail it. Just follow the instructions to a T and you'll he fine.
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys, so I'm sitting on my $150 promo code while I consider dumping my Note 3 for a Moto X. Good idea?
I also have a couple questions. Do the active notifications keep breathing until you attend to them or does it stop breathing after a while? I heavily rely on the notification light on my Note 3 so I hope it keeps breathing.
My other question....I am on at&t. Can I root the phone?
Thanks!
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My wife has a note and I have an X. My first inclination is to say they are vastly different phones. I assume you are looking at the overall experience and not so much the cost of the phone.
If the losing the larger screen isn't a deal-breaker for you, then it's not a bad move as long as you are OK with what you are giving up. For multimedia, streaming and all the S-pen "jazz" it's a great device, it really is. I tend to think of the X a little more like a workhorse. Day in and day out it just keeps knocking it out of the park for normal, everyday tasks. Lesser specs, yes, but with all the optimizations it is smooth as butter across the board. In all the years I've had smartphones, I've *never* had one I trust to get me through the day until now (I work until midnight some times and don't always have convenient access to a charger).
I think you'll love the notifications on the X. They keep going as long as you have unaddressed notifications. From that screen you can dismiss them, jump straight into the app the notification is from or just unlock the phone. It's fantastic for dealing with a multitude of work emails, or other things like that.

Cubfan99 said:
It is very difficult to root. Pretty complicated and not for any but the most experienced, IMO.
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Actually all it needs you to do, is go through all pages in the thread. Every single problem has been addressed. And if that's still too complicated, one can always stay on 4.2.2 (Camera OTA) and use the One Click RockMyMoto

I recently sold my Note 3 to pick up a Moto X. I ended up getting a white TMO 16GB Moto X on Cyber Monday that I've had since last Wed. The primary reason that I wanted to get rid of the Note 3 was the overall size. I'm a pretty big dude (6'5 280) so I've got pretty large hands and it still was too much phone to deal with on a daily basis. My hand would literally start hurting/cramping and having a burning sensation all through my knuckles and that gradually worked it's way down my arm. So I got fed up and decided to get rid of it on Craigslist. I will say that the screen quality, expandable storage and battery life on the N3 are the primary things that I missed initially. What I don't miss is the fire burning in my hand and forearm that I felt everyday using it.
So now that I've had my Moto X for a few days now I can say without any doubt that I made the right decision to switch. The ice storm here in Dallas has afforded me the opportunity to have three solid days of quality time with this awesome phone.
Here are some specific points:
The in hand feel is fantastic and I haven't experienced any discomfort at all. The build quality and fit and finish are top notch as well. The N3 just feels cheap and fragile compared to it. It also has a great weight to it that makes it feel very solid. I'm not scared to drop this phone and have it shatter into a million pieces. Even still I ended up ordering a case for it to preserve its pristine condition.
I will definitely say that the difference in screen resolution isn't nearly as noticeable as I thought that it was going to be. The screen on the Moto X is very sharp an vibrant while being extremely responsive. Very deep blacks and somewhat warm whites. The colors absolutely pop with vivid contrast. I can't complain at all about the screen.
The battery life on the N3 was simply insane. The best screen on time that I ever got was right at 8hrs. It was a beast when it came to battery life. That being said I can pull down 5:30-6hrs screen on time with my Moto X. So I can definitely notice a difference but it's not a deal breaker for me. I can live with the battery life that I'm getting with the Moto X. Plus it charges crazy fast.
Expandable memory is probably the biggest issue that I've had. I opted for the 16GB version with the intent of utilizing the 200GBs of cloud storage that I have at my disposal. I've also stopped keeping music stored on my device and use streaming services like Play Music All Access, Spotify and Google Drive via the Beat app. It's been mostly painless but there was some adjusting initially. I had a 32GB N3 with a 64GB SD which is a ton of local storage. Believe it or not I just had to slightly adjust what apps and games to install instead of just installing everything. It has actually had the added bonus of streamlining and focusing my gaming attention. Now I'm having to play a game and beat it to get to the next one. I tend to try and look at the positive side of things.
Now lets get to the best aspect of the Moto X and that's the Motorola software tweaks onboard. I don't know how I ever lived without Active Notifications. It's such an elegant and logical way to handle notifications that it should just be baked into Android. I love that I can just glance over to see quickly what it is without touching my device. Then if I want to get more info I can just press the icon and it displays more detail. Then if I want to address it just swipe up to jump directly respond to it. Simply fantastic! I also like that if I just want to see the time or use my device it knows that I've picked it up and lights up the Active Notifications screen.
I've only recently started using Moto Assist so I can't comment in depth but I can say that its been very useful thus far.
Always listening is also insanely awesome and more useful than I'd imagined. I've never really used voice controls on a phone before simply because they've never been very intuitive or useful. What the Moto X has to offer is completely different beast all together. I've started using it more lately and its really amazing software to have at your disposal. I love that if I want to do a Google search or play some music or respond to a text I can hands free with there simple words... Ok Google Now.
I know... I know, TL; DR.
Bottom Line:
The Moto X is an amazing device out the box and only continually gets better and more useful the more you use it. I don't miss my Note 3 at all. Not even a little bit and now look back on it and think how I ever went without these features. I highly recommend this device and love that I've already got Kit Kat running on it. It makes me excited to see what's next as far as updates and tweaks are concerned.
I hope this somewhat helps someone who is on the fence.
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I moved to the Moto X from the Note 3, no regrets at all. I hated Touchwiz. I do miss the SD slot a bit, but I'll live. The active notifications make up for it though, I freaking love them.

tnt118 said:
My wife has a note and I have an X. My first inclination is to say they are vastly different phones. I assume you are looking at the overall experience and not so much the cost of the phone.
If the losing the larger screen isn't a deal-breaker for you, then it's not a bad move as long as you are OK with what you are giving up. For multimedia, streaming and all the S-pen "jazz" it's a great device, it really is. I tend to think of the X a little more like a workhorse. Day in and day out it just keeps knocking it out of the park for normal, everyday tasks. Lesser specs, yes, but with all the optimizations it is smooth as butter across the board. In all the years I've had smartphones, I've *never* had one I trust to get me through the day until now (I work until midnight some times and don't always have convenient access to a charger).
I think you'll love the notifications on the X. They keep going as long as you have unaddressed notifications. From that screen you can dismiss them, jump straight into the app the notification is from or just unlock the phone. It's fantastic for dealing with a multitude of work emails, or other things like that.
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Thanks a lot for the feedback! It's funny because the active notifications are the #1 thing that I'm most excited about.
For some reason I'm a notification junkie. I really rely on them to the point where I won't even consider a phone without at least an led notification light. As a matter of fact, I passed on the HTC One because you simply can barely see that tiny pinhole light that it has.
calmlydefyinglogic said:
I recently sold my Note 3 to pick up a Moto X. I ended up getting a white TMO 16GB Moto X on Cyber Monday that I've had since last Wed. The primary reason that I wanted to get rid of the Note 3 was the overall size. I'm a pretty big dude (6'5 280) so I've got pretty large hands and it still was too much phone to deal with on a daily basis. My hand would literally start hurting/cramping and having a burning sensation all through my knuckles and that gradually worked it's way down my arm. So I got fed up and decided to get rid of it on Craigslist. I will say that the screen quality, expandable storage and battery life on the N3 are the primary things that I missed initially. What I don't miss is the fire burning in my hand and forearm that I felt everyday using it.
So now that I've had my Moto X for a few days now I can say without any doubt that I made the right decision to switch. The ice storm here in Dallas has afforded me the opportunity to have three solid days of quality time with this awesome phone.
Here are some specific points:
The in hand feel is fantastic and I haven't experienced any discomfort at all. The build quality and fit and finish are top notch as well. The N3 just feels cheap and fragile compared to it. It also has a great weight to it that makes it feel very solid. I'm not scared to drop this phone and have it shatter into a million pieces. Even still I ended up ordering a case for it to preserve its pristine condition.
I will definitely say that the difference in screen resolution isn't nearly as noticeable as I thought that it was going to be. The screen on the Moto X is very sharp an vibrant while being extremely responsive. Very deep blacks and somewhat warm whites. The colors absolutely pop with vivid contrast. I can't complain at all about the screen.
The battery life on the N3 was simply insane. The best screen on time that I ever got was right at 8hrs. It was a beast when it came to battery life. That being said I can pull down 5:30-6hrs screen on time with my Moto X. So I can definitely notice a difference but it's not a deal breaker for me. I can live with the battery life that I'm getting with the Moto X. Plus it charges crazy fast.
Expandable memory is probably the biggest issue that I've had. I opted for the 16GB version with the intent of utilizing the 200GBs of cloud storage that I have at my disposal. I've also stopped keeping music stored on my device and use streaming services like Play Music All Access, Spotify and Google Drive via the Beat app. It's been mostly painless but there was some adjusting initially. I had a 32GB N3 with a 64GB SD which is a ton of local storage. Believe it or not I just had to slightly adjust what apps and games to install instead of just installing everything. It has actually had the added bonus of streamlining and focusing my gaming attention. Now I'm having to play a game and beat it to get to the next one. I tend to try and look at the positive side of things.
Now lets get to the best aspect of the Moto X and that's the Motorola software tweaks onboard. I don't know how I ever lived without Active Notifications. It's such an elegant and logical way to handle notifications that it should just be baked into Android. I love that I can just glance over to see quickly what it is without touching my device. Then if I want to get more info I can just press the icon and it displays more detail. Then if I want to address it just swipe up to jump directly respond to it. Simply fantastic! I also like that if I just want to see the time or use my device it knows that I've picked it up and lights up the Active Notifications screen.
I've only recently started using Moto Assist so I can't comment in depth but I can say that its been very useful thus far.
Always listening is also insanely awesome and more useful than I'd imagined. I've never really used voice controls on a phone before simply because they've never been very intuitive or useful. What the Moto X has to offer is completely different beast all together. I've started using it more lately and its really amazing software to have at your disposal. I love that if I want to do a Google search or play some music or respond to a text I can hands free with there simple words... Ok Google Now.
I know... I know, TL; DR.
Bottom Line:
The Moto X is an amazing device out the box and only continually gets better and more useful the more you use it. I don't miss my Note 3 at all. Not even a little bit and now look back on it and think how I ever went without these features. I highly recommend this device and love that I've already got Kit Kat running on it. It makes me excited to see what's next as far as updates and tweaks are concerned.
I hope this somewhat helps someone who is on the fence.
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Thanks a lot for the detailed info! It was very helpful. Yeah I think I'm really ready for a smaller phone that I can use one handed and feels comfortable in the hand.
Like you said, I'm sure I'll miss the battery life of the Note 3, but I will be ok if I can get 4-5 hours of screen on time.
I'm very curious to see if I will miss any of the Touchwiz features or stock apps. I've owned mostly Samsung phones in the past so it will be interesting to see how well or if I will want to adjust.
I am honestly keeping my expectations very realistic and subdued. I am thinking of this as a 30 day test and rental at worst. I checked and I guess California gets a 30 day return policy rather than the normal 14 day policy which is odd, but I will take it lol.
I see 3 possible conclusions here:
1. I love the phone enough to make it a daily driver and dump my Note 3 and probably make a little money in the process since I got the Moto X for $350.
2. I like the phone enough to keep it but I still prefer my Note 3 as my daily driver and keep the Moto X as a backup phone.
3. I like the phone or just think it's ok but can't find a reason to even keep it as a backup and I return it for a full refund.
As you can see it's no risk for me and a win-win situation.
Thanks again for the input!
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Active Notifications lighting all pixels?

strange quirk with active notifications.
1) notifications light up using select few pixels (GOOD)
2) notifications fade out and go away completely (GOOD)
3) all pixels light up very dim for a second (KINDA ODD)
You have to have the lights off in your room for you to notice it really.
Check it out...

Mine doesn't do that in a pitch black room.
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matt87n said:
strange quirk with active notifications.
1) notifications light up using select few pixels (GOOD)
2) notifications fade out and go away completely (GOOD)
3) all pixels light up very dim for a second (KINDA ODD)
You have to have the lights off in your room for you to notice it really.
Check it out...
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you have the beginnings of the universe!
nah, you should get that replaced.

i forgot to mention im still running 4.2 in Canada..

Rhiannon224 said:
Mine doesn't do that in a pitch black room.
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its super super dim and hard to catch if u dont OCD over things like i do.. lol

call motorola, they might be able to get your a replacement, if you havent rooted and unlocked bootloader

oh man, seriously nobody else has this going on? its such a small bug and seems fixable.. i dont wanna send back my motooo!
gonna try n reset the phone to see what happens.. my expectations are near nil though.. anyone else with this strange issue?

Just tried in a pitch black room. Saw nothing after the active display time faded out.

The whole screen flickers gray right? I'm on a Rogers X. Mine does that.
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Just for giggles, I checked out my phone and two coworkers phones and none of them do it. Two AT&T, one Verizon.

Yeah, I don't think that's normal. The whole reason Active Notifications doesn't annihilate your battery life is because only the pixels that need power, get power. That's how AMOLED works. You can turn off each individual pixel. Which is why you don't see something like Active Notifications on phones with an IPS panel such as the Nexus 5. IPS works by lighting a giant backlight, and the pixels act something like shutters, opening and closing as needed. Of course it's more technical than that, but in layman's terms, that's how you can think of it.
So yeah. Something's up. Those pixels should not be lighting up on an AMOLED display. If it were an IPS, that would be normal.

Two Rogers phones here, neither do that.(I am running 4.4 though)

My VZW MM doesn't do that. Seems strage, as it's a big selling point for the phone that it only lights the pixels you need.

i have the same problem, im on 4.2.2, i will take it to motorola

Hayaku said:
The whole screen flickers gray right? I'm on a Rogers X. Mine does that.
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YA! a Rogers phone running 4.2 still.. i did a reset but it didnt help

Johmama said:
Yeah, I don't think that's normal. The whole reason Active Notifications doesn't annihilate your battery life is because only the pixels that need power, get power. That's how AMOLED works. You can turn off each individual pixel. Which is why you don't see something like Active Notifications on phones with an IPS panel such as the Nexus 5. IPS works by lighting a giant backlight, and the pixels act something like shutters, opening and closing as needed. Of course it's more technical than that, but in layman's terms, that's how you can think of it.
So yeah. Something's up. Those pixels should not be lighting up on an AMOLED display. If it were an IPS, that would be normal.
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thanks for the explanation! cant wait for OLEDs to be ubiquitous.. wonder what comes after OLED, or is it the final frontier for active matrix

Since its a problem that only I would notice, and only in the darkest of rooms, I Dont want to go thru the hassle of explaining to the poor guys at the Rogers store why I want to exchange the phone. I'm wondering whether it may be a software related thing... What's the best way to reset the software besides deleting all data.. Is there a way to get down deeper and scrub it clean?
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matt87n said:
Since its a problem that only I would notice, and only in the darkest of rooms, I Dont want to go thru the hassle of explaining to the poor guys at the Rogers store why I want to exchange the phone. I'm wondering whether it may be a software related thing... What's the best way to reset the software besides deleting all data.. Is there a way to get down deeper and scrub it clean?
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Well, it's most likely just a software bug in the Rogers 4.2 rom. As the others who are not on Rogers do not have this issue, your best bet is probably to upgrade to the T-Mobile 4.4 ROM, which is what I'm running (I'm also with Rogers).
EDIT: Just noticed someone had said that they had Rogers phones that didn't have the issue... I say proceed with caution. You can try reflashing the Rogers stock firmware from the internet, see if that clears it up?

I've had 4 Moto X's. They all did this. It doesn't impact battery enough for me to worry about it. It may be the backlight or something though I admit I know very little about how SAMOLED works.

I think is happening is that there's some code in there that's telling the transistors to discharge throughout the matrix instead (which explains why the whole screen is dim for a second) which helps with reducing the amount of wear on individual parts of the screen (the notification icons itself). If someone can compare the ActiveNotification between 4.2.2 and 4.4, that would be nice.

Anyone feel like the X is growing long in the tooth?

I love my Moto X and it's features this is actually my second. Although I'm starting to feel like its aging rapidly. Vanilla android is dull in its black color scheme and its starting to wear. Also the form factor is great but I am itching for a bigger screen. Oh and I really miss Qi charging ! Anyone else starting to feel like this?
MOTO X

Sorry, can't agree less...AOSP is the best, I will never go back to anything else. Everyone else spends so much time packing in all of these other apps and features that are worthless to 95% of their users. As a result, updates are slower and in most cases never even happen. Our little guy here will always be up to date with the latest and greatest that Google can whip up.
I will admit that the display size (and resolution) leaves a bit to be desired, coming from one of the most beautiful displays I've ever seen on a phone (DNA). Not a deal breaker for me.
At any rate, the truth is that every single person on this forum has a different "ideal" device from everyone else. If you feel like you want something else that's OK...it's the inevitable reality considering there is always something newer and better out there.
I love this phone and will happily wear it out until I'm due for an upgrade next June.
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OK that's fine. I'm not one to shout down a person who doesn't agree with me. Its not that I love the bloat of other OS but the colors of say the LG G3 or maybe a white version of our current vanilla
MOTO X

i don't want a bigger screen and android can be customized to look and perform as you like.
moto x is not aging and i won't feel bad about keeping mine if moto comes out with a bigger one for the x+1.

I'm actually really surprised. My last 4 android phones have been rooted and customized. I love my moto X with stock 4.4.2. I would like to root it and use XPOSED but I'm very happy with it as is.
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Oh and I am still really impressed with the speed of the Moto X. I was a little worried after seeing the specs but this thing flies and I get virtually no lag.

I don't know what it is. I'm intrigued by the lg g3 but who knows I probably won't make the switch. I have to actually see it and use it
MOTO X

Yes I agree with you. While I am perfectly happy with the overall function of the X I am bored and ready to try something new. I used to be a flashaholic and going thru withdrawals. Also the camera sometimes pisses me off. I would miss active notifications and voice control though.

a yes and no
well, i come from a sony device in which i used to change roms every week (i know what u r thinking, but yes i had a lot of free time)
that is one of the things i am missing in Moto X (i haven't rooted it yet)
yes the stock rom is not that exciting with a lot of features but that makes the X fly..
i am ok with the stock rom..

If your bored root it and install Xposed, Gravity box has almost every feature roms have ever had. There are Xposed modules to use themes also or install a rom that has the Theme Chooser built in if you want to change the look.
For me this is the first phone that killed my Rom Flashing addiction, with Xposed & Gravity Box I have everything I need and only use the Gravity Box features I need. Gone are the days of waiting/wiping/flashing/setting up my phone when a new nightly has been released. Now I have more time to find and use apps I really like and when I want a small change I buy a new Icon Pack.

FSRBIKER said:
If your bored root it and install Xposed, Gravity box has almost every feature roms have ever had. There are Xposed modules to use themes also or install a rom that has the Theme Chooser built in if you want to change the look.
For me this is the first phone that killed my Rom Flashing addiction, with Xposed & Gravity Box I have everything I need and only use the Gravity Box features I need. Gone are the days of waiting/wiping/flashing/setting up my phone when a new nightly has been released. Now I have more time to find and use apps I really like and when I want a small change I buy a new Icon Pack.
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+1 I was using HKThemeManager and you can find different themes if you look hard enough. I had my drop down notification look like the gs5 with its color scheme and various other themes. But I decided to go back to stock.
MOTO X

someguyatx said:
Yes I agree with you. While I am perfectly happy with the overall function of the X I am bored and ready to try something new. I used to be a flashaholic and going thru withdrawals. Also the camera sometimes pisses me off. I would miss active notifications and voice control though.
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Well active notifications can be replicated by both peek and other apps. The voice control is the only thing I would miss
MOTO X

For my use and preference the Moto X is the absolute best phone on the market. I have the opportunity to buy the latest and greatest if I choose to do so and yet I am completely unimpressed by:
-what is on the market today
-the fact that no OEM is focusing on reducing bezel size drastically or improving ergonomics in any meaningful way except Moto with their X line.
-Screen
I've already decided for my eyesight, viewing distance and hand size the 4.7 inch screen is perfect. Anything bigger and I find it harder to use Swype keyboard (I tend to be humble about most things but I'm a very fast Swyper). The max I would go with is 5 inch screen ONLY IF bezels are RIDICULOUSLY small, even smaller than Moto X. Theoretically you could fit a 5 inch screen on a phone the size of the Moto X. But nobody is focusing on this. There still isn't a phone on the market with thinner side bezels than Moto X.
-Active notifications.
Could I live without it? Probably. Do I want to? Nop.
-Touchless controls
I could live without it.
Moto X is the perfect form factor and because vertical scrolling fluidity and frame drops are a problem with Android OS and not the hardware, I don't find that Galaxy S5, HTC M8 are any smoother or faster than my debloated X. At all. I've done side by side comparisons.
For me Moto X is the perfect form factor/weight/feature set. If the next Moto X model to be released is a lot bigger, I will just buy another Moto X as a spare. I like iphone as well (I switch back and forth a lot, the customizability via jailbreak tends to put Android to it's knees but that's a tough pill to swallow for most people here) but I wasn't impressed by the iphone 6 leaks (bezels are not thinner than the 5/4s wth!) AND the fact that iphone doesn't have an official swype (still doable via touchpal and jailbreak but not nearly as good) is kind of a deal breaker for me. Swype is how I learned how to use smartphones. You would probably drool over my speed typing with swype or laugh at my clumsiness with two finger tapping. I feel like an idiot tap typing one handed on an iphone it's SOOO bloody slow

With smaller bezels you will just inadvertently bump the screen with your hand when reaching with your thumb
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rocketsaucev2 said:
With smaller bezels you will just inadvertently bump the screen with your hand when reaching with your thumb
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There are already software systems in place to avoid this in ipad air due to it's small(er) bezels. It's just an algorithm that takes things like current orientation and digitizer inputs to decide whether it will ignore that input or not.
All it does is ignores your thumb inputs while you hold the device with let's say your right hand. 4 fingers are supporting the back of the device and the thumb is clamping the screen. The thumb input is ignored by the OS which then turns it's attention to the hand that you are intending on navigating the OS with (left hand in this case).
Given a very small bottom bezel the size of Moto X's would avoid that issue. And Moto X's bottom bezel is friggin tiny! :laugh:

AndreaCristiano said:
Well active notifications can be replicated by both peek and other apps. The voice control is the only thing I would miss
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Peek is nothing like active display. You have 10 seconds after the notification to see it.
And full time active display apps will burn up the battery on a non moto x device.
Just for the record.

AndreaCristiano said:
I love my Moto X and it's features this is actually my second. Although I'm starting to feel like its aging rapidly. Vanilla android is dull in its black color scheme and its starting to wear. Also the form factor is great but I am itching for a bigger screen. Oh and I really miss Qi charging ! Anyone else starting to feel like this?
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Could not disagree more.
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kj2112 said:
Peek is nothing like active display. You have 10 seconds after the notification to see it.
And full time active display apps will burn up the battery on a non moto x device.
Just for the record.
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My full active display app on my nexus 5 had no battery issues
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AndreaCristiano said:
My full active display app on my nexus 5 had no battery issues
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Link?

kj2112 said:
Link?
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To the app?
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AndreaCristiano said:
To the app?
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I'd use an app like that that doesn't drain battery. Honestly, never heard of one. ?

Light Flow and Moto X 2014

Does the Moto X 2014 have a notification light? If so it doesnt work with Light Flow. Anyone know why?

idle0095 said:
Does the Moto X 2014 have a notification light? If so it doesnt work with Light Flow. Anyone know why?
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The Moto X 2014 does not have a notification light. That's why it has Active Display instead.

doratheconquistadora said:
The Moto X 2014 does not have a notification light. That's why it has Active Display instead.
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Ok then ill uninstall light flow

There actually is a green LED beneath the speaker at the top of the phone but its only used for battery related stuff. I contacted the dev about this yesterday, he said it would probably need root to work for notifications, though.

RyanBRZ said:
There actually is a green LED beneath the speaker at the top of the phone but its only used for battery related stuff. I contacted the dev about this yesterday, he said it would probably need root to work for notifications, though.
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Didn't know about that one. That's neat.

[Q] Static lines & bands on screen. Yes, please help.

Guys,
I've tried 3 different phones from Flipkart. The first one had the famous yellow tint issue which was down to a minimum in the next 2 devices that i tried so I guess it all depends on luck. But as luck would have it or OCD , I had new issues with them.
Both the replacement devices that I have tried so far have these 2 issues below:
1. Weird horizontal bands visible across the screen on light backgrounds (white/grey) most prominent on low brightness. They really annoy you when scrolling through your Twitter feed or any apps with a white background (Most on Lollipop!)
Best way to check these are in the default android dialogs of WiFi password or language choice.
2. I see static lines horizontal lines on the screen everytime the screen is touched and they disappear after 2 seconds of the touch. Again easiest way to check this would be to open the gallery and pull in the hamburger menu from the left. When touched to pull, mine shows prominent static/disturbance sort of ripples.
Can you guys check and tell me if these are common issues since both my replacement devices have these & I am really not upto trying another device after all the hassle.
Thanks.

I'll see the horizontal lines as well on light backgrounds, I just assumed it's a side affect of amoled.

Perhaps the lcd is defective?
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Can confirm that my screen also has the issue #1. I always thought it was probably a large AMOLED screen issue. Never faced issue #2 though. I also got mine from flipkart.

Issue 1 is what bothers me the most. Scrolling on white backgrounds is annoying, you feel these bands are not moving & look prominent.
Even more worried since everything's going white in Lollipop.
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KRN03 said:
Issue 1 is what bothers me the most. Scrolling on white backgrounds is annoying, you feel these bands are not moving & look prominent.
Even more worried since everything's going white in Lollipop.
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Though I dont have a similar problem but I am pretty annoyed with my purchase. My first device was replaced since it developed screen-burn within few days of usage. Surprisingly, the second device has also developed screen-burn after 10 days of usage and the nav keys are permanently embossed on the screen which can be clearly seen on grey backgrounds.
The strangest part I found about both the devices was they were turned on right out of the box One click to the power button and the phone was already in the setup mode asking to select a language. White color reproduction is way off on this device and looks pale yellow instead of white I somehow feel that I should have stuck with my Nexus 5 instead of falling for this. At-least for now, I'm done with AMOLED's

So have you returned the Moto X?
Motorola seems to have major QC issues. Distorted speaker, yellow tint, weird lines and burn-in.
It's a great phone but the screen has major issues. I am on the fence now about trying a 4th replacement device but worried it'll have more issue.
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gotzaDroid said:
I'll see the horizontal lines as well on light backgrounds, I just assumed it's a side affect of amoled.
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You mean you the permanent lines/bands visible at all times behind the screen?
So are you fine with those lines? Don't they bother you when using apps with white backgrounds like Hangouts.
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KRN03 said:
You mean you the permanent lines/bands visible at all times behind the screen?
So are you fine with those lines? Don't they bother you when using apps with white backgrounds like Hangouts.
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They are not there all the time. Only on light backgrounds. Best way I can describe it is if you've ever seen a plasma TV that gets horizontal purplish lines going vertically from a color source on an all white background. The horizontal lines on my phone follow the dark letters/images as I scroll up and down.
And I actually RMA'd the phone today because of it.

gotzaDroid said:
They are not there all the time. Only on light backgrounds. Best way I can describe it is if you've ever seen a plasma TV that gets horizontal purplish lines going vertically from a color source on an all white background. The horizontal lines on my phone follow the dark letters/images as I scroll up and down.
And I actually RMA'd the phone today because of it.
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Oh alright. Let us know if the new device is any good. Thanks.
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KRN03 said:
Guys,
I've tried 3 different phones from Flipkart. The first one had the famous yellow tint issue which was down to a minimum in the next 2 devices that i tried so I guess it all depends on luck. But as luck would have it or OCD , I had new issues with them.
Both the replacement devices that I have tried so far have these 2 issues below:
1. Weird horizontal bands visible across the screen on light backgrounds (white/grey) most prominent on low brightness. They really annoy you when scrolling through your Twitter feed or any apps with a white background (Most on Lollipop!)
Best way to check these are in the default android dialogs of WiFi password or language choice.
2. I see static lines horizontal lines on the screen everytime the screen is touched and they disappear after 2 seconds of the touch. Again easiest way to check this would be to open the gallery and pull in the hamburger menu from the left. When touched to pull, mine shows prominent static/disturbance sort of ripples.
Can you guys check and tell me if these are common issues since both my replacement devices have these & I am really not upto trying another device after all the hassle.
Thanks.
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I had the dark horizontal bands on my replacement device they sent for the back separating. They were very prominent on light backgrounds and very distracting. I chose to keep my original device because the screen is perfect on it. I didn't want to take chances with replacements beyond that. I took pictures and notified Motorola of the issue.

qwerty12601 said:
I had the dark horizontal bands on my replacement device they sent for the back separating. They were very prominent on light backgrounds and very distracting. I chose to keep my original device because the screen is perfect on it. I didn't want to take chances with replacements beyond that. I took pictures and notified Motorola of the issue.
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Oh, I've been pretty unlucky so far in that case, haven't got a screen without these bands. Well atleast there is hope.
But there's the same concern, will the replacement be better or worse than the one you have. In India, we have to hand over the device at the same time, so cannot compare the two devices.
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KRN03 said:
Oh alright. Let us know if the new device is any good. Thanks.
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So, I have not heard a thing from moto about my RMA label. On the site it said I'd get an email in 4 business hours, well all day and nothing. I'll have to call tomorrow I guess.

Well... Moto has no record of my RMA and I lost the RMA number because I took a screen shot and the pic didn't sync before I blew my current phone clean. They tried my IMEI and SN and contact info, it's like it never happened. They said they could try looking at the RMA number, but, I don't have it. No confirmation email either at the time of entering it.
So, I'm not going to bother again right now as others have said the replacements do the same. I got the two year warranty, so if the screen does eventually go dead, oh well.
What I will warn others of, is to WRITE DOWN the RMA number!

My first device was perfect - but I returned due to a scratch on the wood back. Second device is half yellow, half white tint with horizontal lines. It's like playing the lottery because the qc is still awful on amoled. I wouldn't mind if the full screen was yellow even but the half and half is terrible. Yellow can be fixed with color tweaks and wasn't all that bothersome anyway.

I have one dark line across the screen. I chatted in with them and I have to call them and ask for the REST department since mine was a custom one.

Use this free app to test your gamma detection. Works great!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.displaytester

I've seen this once or twice, it appears to be when the phone is on 2G and data is on 900Mhz LTE.
But I can't say it's very visible, I can barely make out a pixel or two vibrating in very specific settings.
What's your model number?
I have the XT1092.

Shadowdancer123 said:
I've seen this once or twice, it appears to be when the phone is on 2G and data is on 900Mhz LTE.
But I can't say it's very visible, I can barely make out a pixel or two vibrating in very specific settings.
What's your model number?
I have the XT1092.
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Yep even I have the XT1092. I am trying to live with it for now. Have till Dec 10th to decide whether I want to risk another device.
The bands across the screen bother a lot more than the static lines. Hope Lollipop comes soon so I can make a final decision.
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KRN03 said:
Yep even I have the XT1092. I am trying to live with it for now. Have till Dec 10th to decide whether I want to risk another device.
The bands across the screen bother a lot more than the static lines. Hope Lollipop comes soon so I can make a final decision.
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You should try to capture it on a video clip, my lines are just barely visible in low light.
Film it and send it back for warranty with that video as proof. And post it here, I'm curious to what it looks like.
I'm pretty sure it's the LTE radio, because I can just barely make out the noise in my computer speakers when it's pinging the GSM tower.
Much like when old phones use 2G mode, but at a way faster rate and not as loud.
You might have gotten phones from a batch where they forgot EMI shielding or something like that.