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.253 camera quality

Hey guys, although sony improve on the sharpness of the camera quality, i found a serious problem. Picture taken are really really over exposed.
Not mentioning superior auto, even normal modes. I compared it side to side with quite a number of phones, S3, S4 & even xperia ion.
What happened. Is it the new firmware or i need to do a clean wipe? Even my wife's xperia z has this problem

I have the same problem, pictures taken by the xperia Z have many visible grainy dots, and when I enlarge to 100% on my laptop the matters get worse, compare to my sister's htc one 4mp camera the xperia Z's performance is really disappointed, may be something wrong with the software

Very picture taken is too bright. Very bright

It s about software fortunately and I guess Sony will solve it by 4.2.2 update cause camera need to be changed 100% in it.
(redesign completely )
And I get better quick pic with small app camera
Sent via my Sony Xperia Z | C6602

Especially when ur taking pic of ppl, the scenes mode keep switching and pictures taken were overly bright or washed out. Had to use a 3rd party camera app , so many problems..
From wi-fi , washed out screen, mic muting problems, now overly exposed camera ...
I followed from Sony Ericsson w800 till now and every flagship from sony Ericsson to sony. Every models has problems. Yellow tint, bla bla... Very tired.

You mean the problem will be solved in 4.2?
Or thats how camera behaves when taking pic of ppl faces? The scenes will radomly flicker and background would be overly bright, even the faces are very bright and washed out. Does anyone experience this issue?

The xperia z have a very serious problem with it's camera I will upload a photos after 30 min
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These two are the photos that i talked about them. the 21.jpg is for 434 and the 51.jpg is for the 253

Yes, thats the problem exactly i am facing, overly bright and exposed pic. So confirmed its because of the new .253 software .?

I suspect it's the changes in the built props or the mediaprofiles, as I see camera version is still the same as. 434, still ver 1.00
Any one can confirm or modify it?

yes the camera is a big problem the colors look bad

and the flash is way to weak compared to other phones

must.sayim said:
These two are the photos that i talked about them. the 21.jpg is for 434 and the 51.jpg is for the 253
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The tree on the left grows fast.haha
Sent from my Xperia Z

finoqq84 said:
Hey guys, although sony improve on the sharpness of the camera quality, i found a serious problem. Picture taken are really really over exposed.
Not mentioning superior auto, even normal modes. I compared it side to side with quite a number of phones, S3, S4 & even xperia ion.
What happened. Is it the new firmware or i need to do a clean wipe? Even my wife's xperia z has this problem
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Do you mean when you use flash light? just close it, i found the pictures are in light blue. What's your rom, if you update to 253, it would be improved. but i cannot deny that the quality of camera is not good.

sony will release a new update 10.1.1.A.1.307 .... it's in the "xperia blog .com"

Yep, i saw it too.. Hopefully .307 really solves the problem. Its certified in the 29th, hopfully would be released within these few days

IS the i9100 Galaxy S2 camera better than the Xperia ZR?

ZR is my dream phone well the Z is but due to so many hardware issuses and bad design I want to go with the ZR
But can the camera match my previous i9100 S2?
My S2 was incredible at taking photos especially at night. No noise at all.

The Samsung used SONY camera module till S3 Galaxy. The ZR takes incredible pictures once you do the settings right and for critical pictures use HDR Cam+ or other utilities like I do.

ZR gets better photo than GNexus. The camera sound effects can't mute by sound settings, I can't take photo of my sleeping kid with this. It's good camera among phones.
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I keep reading on review websites that the Z and ZR camera is horrible its really really bad
But some people are saying thats cause those guys are morons and don't enable HDR
can anyone confirm how the Z and ZR camera matches other phone cameras?

http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=5421&idPhone2=5204&idPhone3=3621

chewdaniel said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=5421&idPhone2=5204&idPhone3=3621
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wow thanks holy crap
the S2 i9100 is significantly better sharper and less noise than the Z and ZR
the Z does look better than the ZR
how the heck a old phone like the i9100 S2 can have such a better camera? how is that even possible?

it's sony's post-processing and crap compression that screws up a great camera... it's the software :/

so can this be fixed using HDR?
what about rooting and flashing custom rom etc?

john5220 said:
so can this be fixed using HDR?
what about rooting and flashing custom rom etc?
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i believe it'll be fixed by next software updates.. as most of the reviews about the Xperia ZR camera was made on the 4.1 ROM ,and we have some positive feedbacks about camera quality and focus-speed enhancement in the new 4.2.2 update
so we need someone who is using the 4.2.2 ROM to confirm it..

DoO37 said:
i believe it'll be fixed by next software updates.. as most of the reviews about the Xperia ZR camera was made on the 4.1 ROM ,and we have some positive feedbacks about camera quality and focus-speed enhancement in the new 4.2.2 update
so we need someone who is using the 4.2.2 ROM to confirm it..
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4.2.2 user here.I can tell that the camera is way better,and for the lowlight shoting please turn off the SAM - superior auto mod. and try playing with the settings abit like stopping HDR / chosing Fill flash / focus - multi auto focus.It really gives a very good low light pictures.So basicly the camera is great for me here

effective said:
4.2.2 user here.I can tell that the camera is way better,and for the lowlight shoting please turn off the SAM - superior auto mod. and try playing with the settings abit like stopping HDR / chosing Fill flash / focus - multi auto focus.It really gives a very good low light pictures.So basicly the camera is great for me here
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Thanks @effective for confirming :good:
and guys don't listen to just one review specially the one from Phonearena.. it's the worst review ever for the ZR and you may see the positive comments there for the users..
you can just only check the photos quality from Here ,but don't read the the whole page you'll hate the phone
the photo's aren't that perfect.. but they're still great for me (note that these photos were taken on the 4.1.2 FW)

DoO37 said:
Thanks @effective for confirming :good:
and guys don't listen to just one review specially the one from Phonearena.. it's the worst review ever for the ZR and you may see the positive comments there for the users..
you can just only check the photos quality from Here ,but don't read the the whole page you'll hate the phone
the photo's aren't that perfect.. but they're still great for me (note that these photos were taken on the 4.1.2 FW)
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No probs man here u go a link from here that some ppl incl me made some pics with the phonie - 4.1.2 firmware tho.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389624

How bad is the main camera on the ZR

Because of a combination of features (removable battery, fm radio, sd slot, etc), I was considering getting a c5502 or c5503 ZR to use with T-Mobile, but have read some very bad reviews of the main camera. Having a hard time deciphering the mixed opinions, and also wondering whether any software updates, firmwares, ROMs, or apps make the camera better. Sorry for the broad and uninformed question, but not sure how to really gather up this information. Thanks.

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Because of a combination of features (removable battery, fm radio, sd slot, etc), I was considering getting a c5502 or c5503 ZR to use with T-Mobile, but have read some very bad reviews of the main camera. Having a hard time deciphering the mixed opinions, and also wondering whether any software updates, firmwares, ROMs, or apps make the camera better. Sorry for the broad and uninformed question, but not sure how to really gather up this information. Thanks.
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XZR is my fourth Sony device. The camera is excellent. XZ, XZR and XZL have same camera of 13.1 MP.
previously I had xperia SP and it had worst camera as per sony standard.
If you want best camera phone then go for Nokia Lumia or Lenovo.

sourabhp said:
XZR is my fourth Sony device. The camera is excellent. XZ, XZR and XZL have same camera of 13.1 MP.
previously I had xperia SP and it had worst camera as per sony standard.
If you want best camera phone then go for Nokia Lumia or Lenovo.
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Thanks. Curious why I read so many reviews of the ZR panning the camera (main, not front-facing). I'd assume Sonys would have good cameras. Surprised to hear Lenovos might be a good choice.

[Q] Z3 Compact camera any better than Z1 Compact?

Hi. I've searched through some of the forum threads and can't find a direct comparison by actual owners so apologies in advance if this has been covered already....
I have a iphone 4s; the camera is good. I have tried to move to a android phone twice now, (HTC one and a Sony Z1 Compact) and was not impressed with the camera on either so I went back to my iphone 4s.
The HTC uses 4k ultra pixels so is good in low light but mediocre in normal daylight.
The Z1 compact camera just seemed flat, slow, blurred and I took several pics with my 4s and the 4s blew the sony out the water, which surprised me given it's age and much lower pixel count. (which I know isn't everything)
I want a compact phone, android with a excellent camera. Has anyone had experience using the Z3 AND the Z1 compacts?
Other than the camera on the Z3 compact which has mixed reviews, I'm very tempted by this phone as its small, has good battery life, decent specs but I'm weary after my bad experience with the Z1 compact.
Can anyone alley my fears or confirm the camera quality?
thanks

rcbmulder said:
much lower pixel count. (which I know isn't everything)
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The higher pixel count is actually counterproductive since each individual cell collects less light and there's additional space between them even increasing the effect (same with high density displays). Unless you do some kind of binning. That's been a trend since at least ten years, my ancient 4MP camera still takes very good low-light shots.

I received my Z3C yesterday so I don't have a lot of experience with it but my first impression is that you will be also disapointed with the camera like you were with the Z1C. Why that? Because I am a disappointed myself. I had the Z1C for 9 months before selling it of the Z3C. I also had the iPhone 4S before and I have to admit that the iPhone is a way more reliable device when it comes to instant photography.
What a pity to embed such a great hardware and not being able to get the most of it.

Rexet...
Thanks for the response. I feared that maybe the case. What a shame. I can't find a decent, small android phone with a top camera.... im hoping the nexus x may be the answer but who knows then that will be released..
iphone 6 (compact) seems to be the logical upgrade but i want to go back to android without sacrificing the camera and refuse to pay what is in my opinion too much for the iphone.

To answer your original question, the z3c camera is MUCH better than the z1ç. This is in both low light, and normal lighting.
HOWEVER my wife ip5s still take better pictures ...

Comparing with Z1 Compact which I had for 6 months, yes it's better with a noticeable margin.

In my opinion, the Z3c (1 week so far) takes roughly the same quality photos as the Z1c (4 months). It's a little snappier and that may be to the slightly faster chipset. The physical button is more sensitive on the Z3c which seems to capture faster.
In both cases, I think the cameras are super competitive with other phones but only if you use manual mode and learn how to shoot with it. You can take some pretty amazing photos with it but Sony makes you work for it. The Superior Auto is crap in my opinion since it often picks the wrong white balance.

Ive both and the z3c is slightly better than the z1c specially at low light. the 12800 ISO actually works (ie z1c == black picture where you see stuff on the z3c)
in bright light its hard to spot any difference.
as for the washed out colors and slight blur look, this is all post processing settings. washed out looking colors generally are actually natural colors. if you change the white balance and sharpness filter they'll look better than the iphone4 pictures.
I compared with colleague's iphone 6. In bright light (ie sun light) they look very similar once the image has been processed for the z3c. Otherwise it does look less contrasted etc. and the iphone6 picture looks better by default. All pics were taken in manual mode, they tend to suck in superior auto...
You can use the Google photo enhance for auto processing if you dont want to do it yourself, it does an okayish job of changing contrast, white balance and sharpness settings.
In low light the z3c is much better than the iphone6.
Hope it gives you an idea. Check the picture thread for samples http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-...ost-pictures-xperia-z3-compact-t2889119/page5

bilboa1 said:
as for the washed out colors and slight blur look, this is all post processing settings. washed out looking colors generally are actually natural colors. if you change the white balance and sharpness filter they'll look better than the iphone4 pictures.
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You mean applying a filter after you take the picture, or a setting you can change before and/or during taking a picture?

theres some things you can do while you take the picture, some you can do after. you can actually do the exact same changes after as you can do before except for SCN modes which change the sensor settings.. all other settings appear to be post processing (happening as you take the picture thought).
Most programs will let you do that. I change them in Gimp most of the time, when im lazy and didnt do it in the camera i just use google auto enhance from their photo app.
To look more like the iphones and galaxy phones tho, the settings i generally have to boost are whitebalance (a lot), sharpness (a fair amount) and just a bit of contrast.
I believe you cannot adjust the sharpness within the sony camera app.

With a phone camera, the last thing I want to do...and I bet many others too...is root around with post processing (what the hell??!) and with tweaking in manual mode.
I want to take it out of my pocket and press capture...snap. Done. Like the iphone.
Why is it so hard to do this?

In same position, bought the z3 compact to replace my iPhone 5.
In short, the camera is the only disappointing feature of the phone, and it really is a big disappointment. Washed out colours, terrible shutter lag, slow focus, very soft focus. Have tried all the different camera options (superior auto, different manual options, scenes options) and found nothing adequate yet.
A real shame as I really want to move away from ios, the rest of the phone is superb, if the camera isn't important then it's a fantastic device!

Yep automatic modes arent very good.
Manual modes are okay / mostly on par with competition.. That exludes phones like the lumia 1020 of course. One would hope sony work on the software a bit more in this area

News said z3/z3c camera software will be re-written on Android L(not sure about z1/z1c/z2), so now on 4.4.4 it won't be any better than z1c. I've got a z1c and only played z3c in a local phone store, the phone got faster focus but I think that is pretty much all of this. The quality is just same with Z2, not any better til Android L out. Z3/z3c used a slightly improved cmos(IMX220 vs IMX200) and G lens but you only got better at low light, day time quality has no different at all.
HTC, Samsung, Iphone all got better focus, so they always got a sharper picture and Sony is soft. Speaking for the photo quality, indeed z1/2/3 is real good at low light(when you focus right) and even slightly better than HTC/Samsung/Iphone(this is my experiences and you can notice that from many reviews too) but day time just not that good though acceptable.

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News said z3/z3c camera software will be re-written on Android L
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They did? I mean, you're not talking about the extended Android API but Sony's actual camera software?

Iruwen said:
They did? I mean, you're not talking about the extended Android API but Sony's actual camera software?
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I'd like a source on this as well. It really is a shame that Sony's camera software isn't on par with the rest of this fantastic device despite the superior hardware. I understand manually adjusting the camera is a solution, but for the layperson who doesn't have the time nor the know-how to make those adjustments, a simpler solution is preferred and a revamp/improvement of their software would go a long way in achieving that.

rcbmulder said:
I want a compact phone, android with a excellent camera. Has anyone had experience using the Z3 AND the Z1 compacts?
Other than the camera on the Z3 compact which has mixed reviews, I'm very tempted by this phone as its small, has good battery life, decent specs but I'm weary after my bad experience with the Z1 compact.
Can anyone alley my fears or confirm the camera quality?
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In my limited experience with the z3c, the camera is very poor when it comes to fine details like trees and leaves etc. If camera performance is important for you, then definitely look elsewhere. Shame on such a good phone otherwise.

radicans said:
In my limited experience with the z3c, the camera is very poor when it comes to fine details like trees and leaves etc. If camera performance is important for you, then definitely look elsewhere. Shame on such a good phone otherwise.
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The trees and leaves needs an extremely low compression rate to maintain the fine details because of JPG problem(too old). However, the compression rate is often too high on all Sony phones. RAW image is very possible being a basic requirement on Android L according from Google speaking, so this problem might be solved in the future.
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They did? I mean, you're not talking about the extended Android API but Sony's actual camera software?
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Why not? Android L is a total new OS so Sony is forced to rewrite anythings(though I believe Sony is lazy and actually doesn't want to do it... lol)
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boojay said:
I'd like a source on this as well. It really is a shame that Sony's camera software isn't on par with the rest of this fantastic device despite the superior hardware. I understand manually adjusting the camera is a solution, but for the layperson who doesn't have the time nor the know-how to make those adjustments, a simpler solution is preferred and a revamp/improvement of their software would go a long way in achieving that.
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Sony keen to Fix Image Algorithms in Xperia Z3
http://smartphonetechie.com/sony-keen-to-fix-image-algorithms-in-xperia-z3/
The SA mode works good to me, the only problem on SA for most people because it very actively detects the handshake and switch to sport mode and turn up shutter speed and ISO in the end, it will ruin the overall quality and may increase/decrease the brightness in a wrong way but it will also help for folks who got seriously handshake.

TheEndHK said:
Sony keen to Fix Image Algorithms in Xperia Z3
http://smartphonetechie.com/sony-keen-to-fix-image-algorithms-in-xperia-z3/
The SA mode works good to me, the only problem on SA for most people because it very actively detects the handshake and switch to sport mode and turn up shutter speed and ISO in the end, it will ruin the overall quality and may increase/decrease the brightness in a wrong way but it will also help for folks who got seriously handshake.
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Ah, but from the sounds of it, the fix was supposed to come with the Z3 series, but clearly that never happened. Fingers crossed with Android L then, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.

is the camera really that bad, all the reviews say its pretty good, not quite the gold standard iphone 6 level but close enough? The pics posted on this forum from the z3 compact look good too IMO.

[Q] Has anyone realized Xperia Z camera noise issue?

I am just a normal user of Xperia Z C6603. I have noticed the different camera/photo quality taken with xperia Z KitKat 4.4.2 (official firmware) compared to the KitKat 4.4.4 and Lollipop 5.0.2 (official firmwares). The KitKat 4.4.2 camera seems to have noise filter in the camera app that also affects all third parties camera apps. it handles the noise very well in the dark. It produces great pic too in good exposure of light. While in the 4.4.4 and 5.0. It seemed that Sony has removed that noise filter/smoothen feature (whatever it is) from the camera. The great benefit of it, is that the camera produces sharper images in the good exposure of sunlight (not really noticeable though), but the picture is a total mess when its taken in low light or even in a room that actually has a good lighting. The noise is really untolerable (very noticeable!). It also affects other third parties app. So any other apps won't help the noise in the 4.4.4 and 5.0.2 firmwares. It destroys every pictures. Can anyone explain this?? or is there anyone realize these except me???
Thank you.

Hello, I bought my c6603 couple months ago with 4.4.4 out of the box. So I cant compare it with older fw but I really see the big noise at the pictures. It even seem to be at good level in the moment when the picture is taken but during procesing the noise noticable gets higher level. It would be very nice if anyone who practises FW changes will compare photos made by 4.3 camera with later one.
I consider to solve it using my warranty with the seller/manufacturer.

I see the noise since the first day I got the phone till now after two years..
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