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[Q] Xperia SP Users, please I need your suggestion on buying SP

Hello everybody,
Actually I was planning to purchase new xperia device... according to my budget, I thought of going for Xperia SP.
The reason for this thread is .. Can I go for SP as I am getting it in 19000 INR from ebay.in.. It is worth to buy or should i go for ZR which is 8000 INR more than SP price..
Will SP be future proof for atleast a year and will it Honami style 4.3 update. or just a common 4.3 update.
What do you think guys please.. suggest me!!!
and about considering the problems SP users are facing.

I don't Know how much is this in €. But SP is a really good choice! Buy the SP!
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Test the Camera before by XSP. Picture size and quality is no more up to date. Not poor, but other devices (XS or HTC one) make better pictures. All other works great.

Value for money phone
Since I own a Xperia SP for more than 2 months now, following are my impressions. Since I am being critical I'll list negatives first.
Negatives:
Xperia SP's biggest weakness is its camera. Pictures in low light are very bad for its price... pictures in day light are ok, but nothing too good. Pictures taken by SP have more noise in them. So over all SP's camera is very much worse as compared to, say, Galaxy S3's.
The screen is not as good as Super Amoled screens of Samsung's Galaxy series or HTC's & LG's IPS LCD. However, while indoors you will not have any issue. While outdoors, the screen is a bit reflective but is still manageable. I haven't faced any other display issue till now.
Wi-fi reception is truly a bit weaker than other phones, but the internet speed is not affected. Only range is lesser.
Some people have encountered the touch issue when the phone is kept on a table & not in your palm. Some people have also faced a bit of trouble while the phone is plugged in for charging via AC adapter. However, I haven't faced any of these issues.
Positives:
The best part about SP is its performance. Snapdragon S4 Pro is simply a beast and Adreno 320 GPU blows the competition out of water. Current flagships of various brands like Xperia Z, ZL, ZR, HTC One and LG Optimus G Pro all have the same GPU.
SP has 1 GB RAM, which although is not equivalent to these flagships, is enough even for the heaviest of games/apps available in market. However, real racing 3 has some issues. Other games run very well.
Another plus point of SP is its build quality & design. It doesn't look cheap like Samsung GS3 or GS4. The illumination bar at the bottom is a very nice aspect of the design.
The battery performance of SP is one of the better ones.
When used with Bravia Engine 2, the display is awesome while indoors. It is sufficiently bright.
PRICE!!! A total value for money.
So, keeping all these in mind I would suggest:
If you are too much in cell phone photography, explore other mobiles. Galaxy S3 could be good choice in that case. Glaxy S4 mini and Nexus 4 are also there. However, all these cost slightly more than SP.
If 20K is your budget, then go for SP. You won't find a better phone at that price.
If you don't want even slightest of performance issue, surety of many more updates & have the extra budget then you can also give Xperia ZR a serious thought. It has a faster processor, more RAM & better camera in addition to being dust & waterproof. Battery life of ZR is even better than SP's.

Pretty much agree with the post from the_helix.
I think Sony have been clever with this device, they have taken away the things that average/practical users don't really care about.
Do you really need 400+ PPI, 1080p screen, a big internal memory if there's space for a memory card, more RAM etc? They have instead made sure that the processor is top notch, given it 4G and NFC - so you get almost flagship performance at half the price.
Yes some things could be better (there is always something to complain about - the S4 and HTC One are not immune from this either), but with a bigger screen and more robust build than the competition in this price range (the mini S4 and mini HTC One) I think this is the best mid-range phone on the market.
I think it's future proof - but within reason, some games developers always push the boundaries and make software that will only run really well on top devices. I think/hope it will see the next iteration of Android - is it really going to be called kit-kat?

hi,
purchased today my xperia sp in ebay.in. waiting for delivery. so now i being here for have a glance. iam biggest fan of sony till now i used four mobiles from sony, ( J230i, w810, x8, mini pro). and this is my fifth from sony. hope this mobile will meet my expectations. will join u later guys after getting my sp in hands. cheers!

Well guys, I finally ordered Xperia ZL. Thank you everybody for replies.....

session20 said:
Well guys, I finally ordered Xperia ZL. Thank you everybody for replies.....
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why bro? not satisfied with sp?

rajkumar85 said:
why bro? not satisfied with sp?
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nope....Actually, I got some extra money, so thought to go for ZL... for 27000 INR

rajkumar85 said:
why bro? not satisfied with sp?
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Good choice, the sp is just ****ed up!

should i get the Z or Z1?

im upgrading from the S3 to a Z1 this holiday season, mainly because of the water proofing. Before my S3 i had a SE Xperia Arc S and i miss the quality of Sony. My wife on the other hand has an Xperia U and she wants a bigger phone, her favourite colour is purple and the only phones Sony has in purple are the Z and Z1.
the Xperia Z is at a reasonable price right now and has just about all the great features as the Z1, but is there anything that im missing that are different with the two phones? I really dont want her to be disappointed with the Z when she see's my Z1 is better, she's not a very tech person, will she notice any differences compared to my soon to be Z1?

The Z1 is about 20% faster then the Z.
There is no flap to cover the headphone jack on the Z1, so if you like to listen a lot of music with headphones I would suggest you go for the Z1.
The water proofiness is also a tad better on the Z1

midego said:
The Z1 is about 20% faster then the Z.
There is no flap to cover the headphone jack on the Z1, so if you like to listen a lot of music with headphones I would suggest you go for the Z1.
The water proofiness is also a tad better on the Z1
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how annoying is the flap on the Z to remove every time to plug in a headphones?

Avantiel said:
how annoying is the flap on the Z to remove every time to plug in a headphones?
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I found it pretty annoying, that is why I bought the Z1 when it came out and did my Z away.
And I love the magnetic charger, I never have to open any flap anymore

I had the Z, had to get it repaired twice and finally returned it because the back glass kept coming unglued. I may have been unfortunate and gotten a bad device (and then bad repairs I guess) but it is a widespread issue with that device (see here) so keep that in mind if you decide to get that one.
The Xperia Z1 feels much more sturdy than the Z and it features longer battery life even though it's faster.
The purple on the Xperia Z looks nicer than the purple on the Xperia Z1 though

well , the Z1 has much faster CPU , better Camera , louder speaker , better display , and the most important thing that u'll really miss it even if u compare with the S3 is the 3000mAh battery !
the Z has got a bad battery , however , its thinner and lighter .

Libyan Man said:
well , the Z1 has much faster CPU , better Camera , louder speaker , better display , and the most point that u'll really miss it even if u compare with the S3 is the 3000mAh battery !
the Z has got a bad battery , however , its thinner and lighter .
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I wouldn't necessarily say the Xperia Z has a bad battery, but the Xperia Z1 has certainly got a better one. The Xperia Z is fast enough for 90% of people, and while I notice the difference, it's not like I perceive it as some ridiculous speed boost. Same with the display, the Xperia Z is pretty much on par with the Xperia Z1 I think, perhaps the colours are a little clearer in the Z1, but the Xperia Z is by no means a bad device.
Loudspeaker and camera are much better on the Z1.
Both are good choices, providing you don't get any trouble with the back glass on the Xperia Z that is.

Rekoil said:
I wouldn't necessarily say the Xperia Z has a bad battery, but the Xperia Z1 has certainly got a better one. The Xperia Z is fast enough for 90% of people, and while I notice the difference, it's not like I perceive it as some ridiculous speed boost. Same with the display, the Xperia Z is pretty much on par with the Xperia Z1 I think, perhaps the colours are a little clearer in the Z1, but the Xperia Z is by no means a bad device.
Loudspeaker and camera are much better on the Z1.
Both are good choices, providing you don't get any trouble with the back glass on the Xperia Z that is.
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everyone has got his own opinion , i've had the 2 devices and i really recognize these things , i think you are an Xperia Z owner or u still love it actually
u said 90% of people how or where did got that percentage bro ? are comparing SD S4 with SD 800!! are you serious ? for that i'll say just full up ur Z with apps , games and other media files , lose RAM , then watch it !

Libyan Man said:
everyone has got his own opinion , i've had the 2 devices and i really recognize these things , i think you are an Xperia Z owner
u said 90% of people how or where did got that percentage bro ? are comparing SD S4 with SD 800!! are you serious ? for that i'll say just full up ur Z with apps , games and other media files , lose RAM , then watch it !
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I was an Xperia Z owner yes, now I have the Xperia Z1, and I'm telling you that for the price difference currently between the two devices (presuming you get a good Z where the back glass doesn't fall off) it is a tough call if you're not a mobile phone enthusiast.
The Snapdragon S4 (APQ8064: Krait 200) is still a very good processor which is why they based the Snapdragon 800 (MSM8974: Krait 400) on the same platform. They actually are very similar, the 800 is just clocked faster, has better power management, better WLAN, better graphics, USB3 and better image processing. Honestly both provide fluid UIs and a very good user experience.

Rekoil said:
I was an Xperia Z owner yes, now I have the Xperia Z1, and I'm telling you that for the price difference currently between the two devices (presuming you get a good Z where the back glass doesn't fall off) it is a tough call if you're not a mobile phone enthusiast.
The Snapdragon S4 (APQ8064: Krait 200) is still a very good processor which is why they based the Snapdragon 800 (MSM8974: Krait 400) on the same platform. They actually are very similar, the 800 is just clocked faster, has better power management, better WLAN, better graphics, USB3 and better image processing. Honestly both provide fluid UIs and a very good user experience.
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hmm the only thing that i can agree with you is the price , the SD S4 CPU is an end of generation , the architecture are different bro ! you comparison is not fair because the S4 Pro cant even rich the Snapdragon 600 ! it only beat the Snapdragon 200 .

Libyan Man said:
hmm the only thing that i can agree with you is the price , the SD S4 CPU is an end of generation , the architecture are different bro ! you comparison is not fair because the S4 Pro cant even rich the Snapdragon 600 ! it only beat the Snapdragon 200 .
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The S4 Pro (Cortex-A9 with Adreno 320) is better than 200 and 400 (as those are Cortex-A7 based and feature at best Adreno 305 graphics), not 600 or 800.
But that isn't my point. My point is that S4 Pro is good enough. We don't need anything faster.
Also the Snapdragon 600 and 800 do not feature true Cortex-A15 processors if that is what you were referring to when you said they are different architectures. They borrow some power saving innovations (by increasing efficiency) from A15 sure, but they are mostly A9's, not true A15.
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small advice from Z users !!

i have Samsung S3 4G Lte and i want to convert to Xperia Z !! my S3 is very nice, fast and battery friendly.
i like the Z because of its water proof and 13 mp camera.
so can any one please tell me is it worth to change my phone or the z isn't that good ??
i mean is the z deserve to have or it is not that cool as the specs says??
thanks for advice every one

yahyanael said:
i have Samsung S3 4G Lte and i want to convert to Xperia Z !! my S3 is very nice, fast and battery friendly.
i like the Z because of its water proof and 13 mp camera.
so can any one please tell me is it worth to change my phone or the z isn't that good ??
i mean is the z deserve to have or it is not that cool as the specs says??
thanks for advice every one
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How much do you want to spent? The XZ is a good phone, but if you're happy with your S3 there's no need to upgrade...
Also the XZ has become old.... if you're able to spend more, take the XZ2

The benchmarks say that Z is definetely faster and it is.

I had both
And personally i would say i like the XperiaZ a lot better than the SGS3.
The overall-look and feel is just amazing, the SGS3 in comparence felt cheap, and i really really hated the blue-ish screen of the SGS3,
although overall it had better viewing angles than the XperiaZ.
Camera: In dark conditions be it in video or picture-mode, the SGS3 surpasses the XperiaZ, in daylight the Camera of the Xperia-Z is better, except for Macro-Shots, those are better on the SGS3 too.
Sound: The sound that the microphone of the XperiaZ records (videos, telephone) is really crystal-clear compared to the SGS3 one.
The Headset/In-Ears are better on the Sony as usual, but even with other/better (Sennheiser/Audiotechnica/AKG)-Headphones the sound out of the Headphone-Jack of the XperiaZ is better than that of the SGS3
The Buildin-Speakers therefore are better/louder on the SGS3.
If you should purchase the XperiaZ is really up to you, in my location they are actually really cheap to get, so probably yea.
Although the Xperia Z1 Compact might be a better upgrade.
The Z1-Compact has a lot better Battery-Life a better processor and would be overall (in my opinion) the best upgrade, its not as expensive as the Z1/Z2 but on the other hand has superior hardware and battery-life compared to the XperiaZ.
But its really your decision, i can't make a decision for you
Hope it helped.

as a almost two month user of xperia z I can say one think: Buy it if you gonna use it as a nice looking phone(call, sms, social). For anything else forget about z, why? because of battery. so what if its fast? so what if it can run any game or app, battery on z is just most hilarious joke i've seen for past few years of my phones.
I love my xperia z, its look amazing, its durable, screen is very good and its fast but when you unplug it from charger at 7:00 you gonna need it after... 5h of typical use(LTE internet, NFC, camera). Better buy z1 compact or z2... sad but true, and looking at android 4.4 and how it thread batteries on others phones(not only sony) I think that 4.4 update for z gonna be major flop for battery...

Try Xperia z and other varians. Its best smartphone in the world (of course for me)
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[Q] S4 Active vs Xperia Z1

Hi there!
Recently bought an Xperia Z1 and i like it. But recently i have been experiencing some "odd things". Such as the whole phone just freeze, purple fringing in photos and camera starting very slow from Airplane mode. To some it might not sound much of a big deal and yes for me its not too big a deal but i fear it might not be the last time i will experience those issues.
My other fear from my Z1 is that the camera started to have mist inside as if to indicate the waterproofing ain't that tight and ain't that great. Then i heard about the Galaxy S4 Active. Now, i'm aware both phones came out last year although the Z1 seems to be the newer of the two with better specs, etc.
But i want to ask in terms of the ruggedness and better/tighter anit-dust and anti-splash (i.e. waterproofing) which you think does it better: Sony or Samsung?
Also, on another note which one you think still has another chance of an update to 4.4.2 or beyond?
Please advice. Thanks.

Gino76ph said:
Hi there!
Recently bought an Xperia Z1 and i like it. But recently i have been experiencing some "odd things". Such as the whole phone just freeze, purple fringing in photos and camera starting very slow from Airplane mode. To some it might not sound much of a big deal and yes for me its not too big a deal but i fear it might not be the last time i will experience those issues.
My other fear from my Z1 is that the camera started to have mist inside as if to indicate the waterproofing ain't that tight and ain't that great. Then i heard about the Galaxy S4 Active. Now, i'm aware both phones came out last year although the Z1 seems to be the newer of the two with better specs, etc.
But i want to ask in terms of the ruggedness and better/tighter anit-dust and anti-splash (i.e. waterproofing) which you think does it better: Sony or Samsung?
Also, on another note which one you think still has another chance of an update to 4.4.2 or beyond?
Please advice. Thanks.
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I have a S4 Active and am more than satisfied with its water-resistance capabilities.
Haven't you considered another water-resistant phone, like the Galaxy S5 or Xperia Z2?

Vattu said:
I have a S4 Active and am more than satisfied with its water-resistance capabilities.
Haven't you considered another water-resistant phone, like the Galaxy S5 or Xperia Z2?
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I don't like Samsung phones because i think all their phones have become "premium" in terms of prices similar to Apple. They have too many bloatwares too. The Xperia Z2 is an amazing phone but like the S5 it's very new and still quite expensive.
So far the two phones that i had in the past 9 months is the G2 and the Z1 especially with battery life, performance, features, etc. the latter having an advantage because of its water-resistant properties.
But have heard the waterproofing on the S4 Active ain't too good and the camera is so weak & low-specced.

I also use a s4 active and live it! The official 4.4 update is also available since some days. Battery power is 2 days +, screen is great and its smooth like hell (I run cm11 on it)
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[Q] Xperia Z3 or Z4?

Hello guys, I always follow you and find a lot of interesting stuffs in here!! Today I wanna ask you a thing: Xperia Z3 or Z4?? A read all the differences between the two devices, and I'd like to know if it's worth buy an xperia Z4 insted o the Z4. I mean, about the Z3 I like the battery, it's a little bigger, and I like even the processor just beacuse the one Z4 has (snapdragon 810) let me think about all the problem and issues that it had in this period (overheating), but it's even a 64 bit processor, so I think it's better. I even like more, in the Z4, the speaker, the position of them. Long story short:
Xperia Z3 Pro:
major capacity of the battery
the processor, never had overheating
of course the price, lower than Z4
avaiable in italy
Xperia Z4 Pro:
the processor (yes, powerfull, 64bit, but the overheating? just a nightmare?)
the position of the speaker (I did not test them, about quality of sound and volume)
it's thinner
is it avaiable in italy and compatible with all the phone lines?
PS: it's better wait for the Xperia Z5 (rumors said that it will arrive about in september)
Sorry for my english and for the bad way of writing....That is a post to ponder and reflect all together about the best purchase!!
regars guys thanks you

It is good to always get a new phone instead of old model, because after 2 years, your phone will also sell in lower price compare to the new one you buy.

It's Z3+
doum89 said:
Hello guys, I always follow you and find a lot of interesting stuffs in here!! Today I wanna ask you a thing: Xperia Z3 or Z4?? A read all the differences between the two devices, and I'd like to know if it's worth buy an xperia Z4 insted o the Z4. I mean, about the Z3 I like the battery, it's a little bigger, and I like even the processor just beacuse the one Z4 has (snapdragon 810) let me think about all the problem and issues that it had in this period (overheating), but it's even a 64 bit processor, so I think it's better. I even like more, in the Z4, the speaker, the position of them. Long story short:
Xperia Z3 Pro:
major capacity of the battery
the processor, never had overheating
of course the price, lower than Z4
avaiable in italy
Xperia Z4 Pro:
the processor (yes, powerfull, 64bit, but the overheating? just a nightmare?)
the position of the speaker (I did not test them, about quality of sound and volume)
it's thinner
is it avaiable in italy and compatible with all the phone lines?
PS: it's better wait for the Xperia Z5 (rumors said that it will arrive about in september)
Sorry for my english and for the bad way of writing....That is a post to ponder and reflect all together about the best purchase!!
regars guys thanks you
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If want to show the world that you have the latest and the greatest, go for the Xperia Z3+ (Xperia Z4) otherwise Z3 is your best bet. There aren't many improvements in Z3+ when we compared it to old Z3, and also I'm not sure it will get released in Italy or not.

Today I read that xperiq z3+ will be released in Italy. Anyway I'd prefer the z3, both for the price and for the specifics that are not so far from the new model, I don't trust so much the capless usb, but there's the quick charge....[emoji14] I think I'm gonna wait a little longer

serinahayawee said:
It is good to always get a new phone instead of old model, because after 2 years, your phone will also sell in lower price compare to the new one you buy.
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I completely agree!

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New Phone can be better in some aspect But that doesn't mean worth to buy
If you don't have concern about money so buy Z4 but you need to list wht u need from a phone?
Z4 may have over heating problem but as others said abt Z1 u can put into ICE
but for me as Z2 user none of Z3 & Z3+ worth for upgrade But i would choose Z3+ to buy

doum89 said:
Hello guys, I always follow you and find a lot of interesting stuffs in here!! Today I wanna ask you a thing: Xperia Z3 or Z4?? A read all the differences between the two devices, and I'd like to know if it's worth buy an xperia Z4 insted o the Z4. I mean, about the Z3 I like the battery, it's a little bigger, and I like even the processor just beacuse the one Z4 has (snapdragon 810) let me think about all the problem and issues that it had in this period (overheating), but it's even a 64 bit processor, so I think it's better. I even like more, in the Z4, the speaker, the position of them. Long story short:
Xperia Z3 Pro:
major capacity of the battery
the processor, never had overheating
of course the price, lower than Z4
avaiable in italy
Xperia Z4 Pro:
the processor (yes, powerfull, 64bit, but the overheating? just a nightmare?)
the position of the speaker (I did not test them, about quality of sound and volume)
it's thinner
is it avaiable in italy and compatible with all the phone lines?
PS: it's better wait for the Xperia Z5 (rumors said that it will arrive about in september)
Sorry for my english and for the bad way of writing....That is a post to ponder and reflect all together about the best purchase!!
regars guys thanks you
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Xperia Z4, actually the Xperia Z3+; maybe the rumor Z5 is actually the Z4

Z4 is the z3+
In japan or china is the z3+ renamed into z4
The phone shop here told it also

Z3 does not overheat?
Who in the world told you that?
My Z3 constantly reduces display brightness and SOC speed when playing games or streaming videos...and try 4K recording for few minutes...

I think that the Xperia z3 would be a better buy considering the problem about overheating. the price will be even lower since the new Xperia is coming