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Sorry if I should post this in the Dev thread. I've been through the forums, I've googled around, and none of the guides have helped solve this. I'll succinctly describe what I did and where I'm at.
I had CM9 (oat's LnT ROM) and WebOS dual booting just fine. Since LnT was discontinued, I decided I'd see if maybe another ROM would work better since I was having issues. I put AOKP on via CWM. Now, however, both Cyanogen and AOKP showed up in my boot menu with Cyanogen as the default. One time I forgot to change what the boot was, and it tried (and failed) booting cyanogen.
Since then, I can't boot anything. CWM can't mount anything, so I can't get to my nandroid backup, webOS won't boot. I'd honestly be happy with a pure factory reset and starting from scratch, but I can't get anywhere with webos doctor either. It fails at 8%:
Oct 11, 2012 12:20:23 PM com.palm.nova.installer.recoverytool.CardController runnerFinished
WARNING: flashing failed, move to failed card
A found a guide at wwwDOTsouldevteamDOTnet/blog/2012/07/24/fix-bricked-hp-touchpad-recovering-software-bricked-touchpad/ that looked promising, but I can't find any volumes:
[email protected]:/# lvm.static vgscan --ignorelockingfailure
Reading all physical volumes. This may take a while...
[email protected]:/#
Any advice or help would be most welcome.
stace said:
Sorry if I should post this in the Dev thread. I've been through the forums, I've googled around, and none of the guides have helped solve this. I'll succinctly describe what I did and where I'm at.
I had CM9 (oat's LnT ROM) and WebOS dual booting just fine. Since LnT was discontinued, I decided I'd see if maybe another ROM would work better since I was having issues. I put AOKP on via CWM. Now, however, both Cyanogen and AOKP showed up in my boot menu with Cyanogen as the default. One time I forgot to change what the boot was, and it tried (and failed) booting cyanogen.
Since then, I can't boot anything. CWM can't mount anything, so I can't get to my nandroid backup, webOS won't boot. I'd honestly be happy with a pure factory reset and starting from scratch, but I can't get anywhere with webos doctor either. It fails at 8%:
Oct 11, 2012 12:20:23 PM com.palm.nova.installer.recoverytool.CardController runnerFinished
WARNING: flashing failed, move to failed card
A found a guide at wwwDOTsouldevteamDOTnet/blog/2012/07/24/fix-bricked-hp-touchpad-recovering-software-bricked-touchpad/ that looked promising, but I can't find any volumes:
[email protected]:/# lvm.static vgscan --ignorelockingfailure
Reading all physical volumes. This may take a while...
[email protected]:/#
Any advice or help would be most welcome.
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This could be of help, though it's not complete, it's a start in the right direction.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1729179
Good luck.
Edit : Here's another link that could help : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426244
chicle_11 said:
This could be of help, though it's not complete, it's a start in the right direction.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1729179
Good luck.
Edit : Here's another link that could help : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426244
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Thanks for those links. Alas, the process in the second link presumes that the first command "vgscan" will find and identify a "store" volume. But mine doesn't find any volumes. I'll see if that author has any helpful advice on how I can create the volume group.
this should be a real simple fix. obviously you still have moboot working correct? and you are still able to boot into clockworkmodrecovery CWM correct?
now im guessing by the "failed at 8% issue that youre likely on windows 7 64bit orr maybe even vista 64bit correct?
do you have the android-sdk installed on your computer and are you familiar with how to enable ./adb connections?
if yes then this should only take a few minutes to fix.
I have moboot, and can boot into CWM, but CWM complains about not being able to mount any dirs.
I get the 8% issue whether I use Windows 7 64 bit or Mac OS 10.7.
I'm sure I can muddle through adb connections. Do you have any tips for me to try? I can't successfully get the tablet to boot anything -- the closest is CWM which, as I say, can't mount anything.
Hi guys,
I'm new to the forum and thanks in advance for any help I can get.
Given the dates of the threads I've read concerning my problem I'm probably a little late to the ball and you guys are way passed this issue.
I bricked my tp and have followed the steps up to and including starting the novaterm session. When I run the the commands to begin creating a new partion I get hung on the following error "can't remove open logical volume media".
Can anyone help me passed this issue?
alx_chitown said:
Hi guys,
I'm new to the forum and thanks in advance for any help I can get.
Given the dates of the threads I've read concerning my problem I'm probably a little late to the ball and you guys are way passed this issue.
I bricked my tp and have followed the steps up to and including starting the novaterm session. When I run the the commands to begin creating a new partion I get hung on the following error "can't remove open logical volume media".
Can anyone help me passed this issue?
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Run WebOS doctor to restore webos.
Get and put the appropriate files in webos /cminstall folder.
Get and run ACMEINSTALLER 5 using the appropriate script for the version of android you are installing.
Hi all, finally I registered here at xda today because of the great new HP TPToolbox that jcsullins provides here.
This is really really great !! Many thanks !
As a newcomer to this forum I somehow can not comment on the original thread ( ) although I'm developer for decades ..
Well - so far I've been around on webosnation and other forum - but here I find that the core of development happens here.
XDA seems to be a great place to be - as a developer.
1. About the posting from jcsullins: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52765181&postcount=5
It read:
> Only Touchpad Wifi supported (not 4G) at this time
I assume this is really limited to the released HP TouchPad and does not include the never released HP TouchPad Go (7" device) - right ?
2. I read:
> Reflash A6 Firmware allows you to reflash the A6 firmware.
I very much assume I can not use this if my TP is bricked (my TP does not show anything on the screen and no light at the home button).
So - I guess - I first need to do through the TPdebrick procedure.
Sure I know these instructions: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/38786-tpdebrick-v004 Again, thanks to jcsullins for providing these too.
( Also - I wonder if there is a way to use these instructions from a Win7 system too ?)
3. In terms of using TPToolbox to get Android installed on TP:
Till today I run only webos 3.0.5 on my TouchPads and I want to keep webos around. I have 32GB (Wifi) and 64GB (Wifi) and TP GO (Wifi).
What is the recommendation before installing some Android (4.4) on a TP. Do I need to rearrange / clean up some of the existing webos volumes?
Imagine - I have no experience with Android setup. I read all of the TPToolbox thread - but found no guidance for people who want to keep webos on the same device. And I have no good understanding of what the limitations/drawbacks are when running webos and Android on the same device.
4. I read:
> It will then install moboot (which is included in TPToolbox)
I have no clear understand what moboot is doing and if needed how to remove it again. Will it allow me to boot in Android or webos ?
How many Android versions can I install in parallel and then select one at boot time ?
5. A final question for now. Is there any consideration that in future TPToolbox could allow installing openWebOS if this becomes available for existing TP devices?
anyone with some answer please ?
anyone with some answer please ?
No need to answer all questions at once.
I'm most interested in comments about question (3):
what the limitations/drawbacks are when running webos and Android on the same device: 32GB (Wifi) and 64GB (Wifi) ?
[email protected] said:
anyone with some answer please ?
No need to answer all questions at once.
I'm most interested in comments about question (3):
what the limitations/drawbacks are when running webos and Android on the same device: 32GB (Wifi) and 64GB (Wifi) ?
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OPINIONS ARE subjective as you you appear to have several tablets it is in your best interests to test out and find what works for you. I personally am using Milaq's.
Have fun trying them.
sstar said:
OPINIONS ARE subjective as you you appear to have several tablets it is in your best interests to test out and find what works for you. I personally am using Milaq's.
Have fun trying them.
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Thanks for your comment. So far I have no idea what "Milaq" is: I assume some kind of Android version - but such version is not documented with TPToolbox - so, for sure I will not use that for now.
My question (3) is more about hard facts: what the limitations/drawbacks are when running webos and Android on the same device: 32GB (Wifi) and 64GB (Wifi) ?
Will both OS run well on a 32GB system if both are installed and they use some shared disk space (volume?). I would consider at least 5GB of shared disk space to allow (video) file exchange on the device.
What is a recommended configuration to run webos and Android on the same device. Or doesn't it make sense at all and better use 2 devices?
Will TPToolbox optimize the volume size for both OS?
Can I configure the default OS at boot time? How to do? (Can I run Android apps inside a webos window?)
Unable to navigate TP Toolbox UI
I'm trying to use TP Toolbox to install Android on my TP. When I reach the TouchPad Toolbox UI on the tablet, the volume keys aren't working to navigate, so I have no way to select Complete Data Reset. Any ideas??
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Thanks for your comment. So far I have no idea what "Milaq" is: I assume some kind of Android version - but such version is not documented with TPToolbox - so, for sure I will not use that for now.
My question (3) is more about hard facts: what the limitations/drawbacks are when running webos and Android on the same device: 32GB (Wifi) and 64GB (Wifi) ?
Will both OS run well on a 32GB system if both are installed and they use some shared disk space (volume?). I would consider at least 5GB of shared disk space to allow (video) file exchange on the device.
What is a recommended configuration to run webos and Android on the same device. Or doesn't it make sense at all and better use 2 devices?
Will TPToolbox optimize the volume size for both OS?
Can I configure the default OS at boot time? How to do? (Can I run Android apps inside a webos window?)
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As you point out, this is the place for answers. All of your questions have been answered in other threads. Search is your friend. WIth respect to the TP GO, it does not appear to have ever been released, but if you have one, you'll have to answer your own questions because no one here has ever mentioned having one:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2397197,00.asp
Touchpad linked to google account acting badly
J Scullins Toolbox installed with ease. Many thanks. Freed up memory and eliminated WebOS (pretty but pretty useless). Booted fine, loaded CM 11 4.4.2. Then asked if I wanted to restored my google apps from google account. I did. Began updating apps, but included all apps I've ever installed on any android device and loaded my current phone (Galaxy 3) wall paper. Repeated message -> "Unfortunately Trebuchet has stopped" Did not seem to affect downloading updates. Then died. Plugging into charger (wall socket) did not wake it up. Charged all night. Nothing. Unplugged and plugged in again, self-rebooted to boot menu, but has phone screen and shows charging at 1%. Should I reboot to restore mode and start over? Anyone having charging issues after using Toolbox? Thanks.
shumash said:
As you point out, this is the place for answers. All of your questions have been answered in other threads. Search is your friend.
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Thanks for promising that I should be able to find answer. I did read the complete thread about TPToolbox and few others too and search before I started this new thread - but my above 5 questions remained open. If anyone has found a good pointer please paste a URL here.
If I find correct answer myself I will put such links here.
ad (4) I think I understand moboot good enough for now. In my words it is a boot manager that comes with Android or at least you can use with Android. It is not a webos app or so. Not 100% sure how to get it on the TP device - but I assume when I install Android for first time it will also install and it will somehow stay even if Android gets deinstalled. Anyhow - any link to a good wiki page would be much appreciated.
ad (1) Yes, TP GO is a rare device - but several 100 seem to be around by now. Many of these come with some Android 2.X version installed. ( Mine was patched to webos 3.0.5 ) Ok, if noone has a GO here I have to assume that TPToolbox does not support / was not tested on TP GO. So far posting from jcsullins does not mention the TP GO at all: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...81&postcount=5
mheath said:
I'm trying to use TP Toolbox to install Android on my TP. When I reach the TouchPad Toolbox UI on the tablet, the volume keys aren't working to navigate, so I have no way to select Complete Data Reset. Any ideas??
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I have a TP 4G - sounds like this could be an issue? Will this Toolbox installation work on the 4G? If not, is there a good alternative to install Android?
mheath said:
I have a TP 4G - sounds like this could be an issue? Will this Toolbox installation work on the 4G? If not, is there a good alternative to install Android?
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The original TPtoolbox thread answers this 4G question as: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52923285&postcount=65
Toolbox not working for me
Hello,
i tried Toolbox to bring life back to my Touchpad.
When i'm running this program it starts very well but i can't get the menue.
So it's not possible to run one of the menue-points.
I use Windows 7 64bit, the TP is connected with USB-sign on.
My problem:
In the WebOs-log the last line shows a flash-failure.
When i'm starting the TP, first a static HP-logo comes up, followed from a rotating HP-logo,
the a screen changes from black to white with a grey button rotating.
Any idea?
Thanks!
Rekaro said:
Hello,
i tried Toolbox to bring life back to my Touchpad.
When i'm running this program it starts very well but i can't get the menue.
So it's not possible to run one of the menue-points.
I use Windows 7 64bit, the TP is connected with USB-sign on.
My problem:
In the WebOs-log the last line shows a flash-failure.
When i'm starting the TP, first a static HP-logo comes up, followed from a rotating HP-logo,
the a screen changes from black to white with a grey button rotating.
Any idea?
Thanks!
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Re-read the directions for TP Toolbox. You need to boot into WebOS recovery (a static usb symbol). It sounds like your TP is trying to boot into WebOS, not WebOS recovery.
A) Have novacom installed
To load TPToolbox, you will need novacom to be installed on your PC.
You can download and install novacom from http://www.openwebosproject.org/open.../packages.html
Or, you can download and run a java-based "universal installer" from http://code.google.com/p/universal-n...downloads/list
B) Put the Touchpad into webOS recovery mode and connect via USB cable to PC
NOTE: Even if webOS is removed, webOS recovery will still exist as it's built into the bootloader.
If you have moboot already installed, just select "webOS recovery" there.
Or, power the Touchpad off via webOS, then with the Touchpad is off, hold VolumeUp (closest to Power) and Power until you see the USB symbol.
Or, hold Power+Home until the screen changes (about 10 secs) and then start holding the VolumeUp button until you see the big USB symbol.
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shumash said:
Re-read the directions for TP Toolbox. You need to boot into WebOS recovery (a static usb symbol). It sounds like your TP is trying to boot into WebOS, not WebOS recovery.
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Thanks,
no it's in recovery mode i'm shure. A big usb symbol on the screen and some other lines.
I can then open the terminal-window and connect the Touchpad.
I add here pictures what happens when i type the commands "printenv" and "token".
When i type reboot, the TP starts correct to boot, first the static HP sign, then a greyed HP sign and then a screen (see the picture) with a grey rotating Button.
That's it.
issue loading TPTToolbox
Sorry folks - i am fairly new at this - and we all had to start at some point - so if this is obvious to most, i apologize.. but need a little help.
I cant seem to get the Toolbox to load, i downloaded it from the post,{as well as the Novacom driver} i have extracted the three files - when i open the .bat file i get the message below. I have the TouchPad connected via USB, and windows has assigned it a letter drive and I have the big USB icon on the pad screen
message:
"
Setting Palm path ...
Checking novacom service ...
Loading TPToolbox ...
.
Cannot connect to Touchpad.
Make sure Touchpad is connected with USB cable.
Make sure Touchpad is in webOS Recovery (bootie) mode
(where big USB symbol shows on Touchpad screen)
.
"
Toolbox
I'm not sure you understand the instructions on how to do the install.
Here is a link with instructions that I used for my install:
http://liliputing.com/2014/06/use-touchpad-toolbox-install-android-erase-webos-hp-touchpad.html
While the instructions are written for windows users, I used them for my Ubuntu Linux install and everything
worked perfectly.
Recovery problem when running toolbox
I've followed the instructions for running the Toolbox and have removed WebOS, setup the directory sizes and uploaded the ROM and GApps AND renamed the files as specified in the how-to.
However I am having issues with the recovery. The recovery I downloaded was update-CWM-jcs-dm-tenderloin-20140317.zip
I get the error that "No supported recovery file found. Aborting."
I've seen mention that the cable could be bad however if I have no files in the ttinstall directory, I get an error that there's no ROM. I upload the ROM and rename it and the error then is about the Recovery file so that means the ROM was in fact uploaded so the cable theory is moot.
I'm thinking the recovery file needs to be named something specific however when I have tried to use the file names listed as
Compatible Legacy ROM files:
cm-10.1-*-tenderloin.zip or
skz_tenderloin-2.11_jb_4.2.2-*.zip
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but that doesn't work. Is the file name supposed to be something else?
(Sorry about asking this here. Tried to ask in Developer thread but I don't have enough posts)
chrisjpopp said:
I've followed the instructions for running the Toolbox and have removed WebOS, setup the directory sizes and uploaded the ROM and GApps AND renamed the files as specified in the how-to.
However I am having issues with the recovery. The recovery I downloaded was update-CWM-jcs-dm-tenderloin-20140317.zip
I get the error that "No supported recovery file found. Aborting."
I've seen mention that the cable could be bad however if I have no files in the ttinstall directory, I get an error that there's no ROM. I upload the ROM and rename it and the error then is about the Recovery file so that means the ROM was in fact uploaded so the cable theory is moot.
I'm thinking the recovery file needs to be named something specific however when I have tried to use the file names listed as
but that doesn't work. Is the file name supposed to be something else?
(Sorry about asking this here. Tried to ask in Developer thread but I don't have enough posts)
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Try the update-TWRP-jcs-dm-tenderloin-20140512.zip instead. It worked just fine for me.
chrisjpopp said:
I've followed the instructions for running the Toolbox and have removed WebOS, setup the directory sizes and uploaded the ROM and GApps AND renamed the files as specified in the how-to.
......
(Sorry about asking this here. Tried to ask in Developer thread but I don't have enough posts)
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How did you rename the file? I don't think you need to rename any file.
No matter how many times I reinstall novacom TPtoolbox will not get past
Checking Novacom services....
And goes no fauther.
I am running windows 8.1
HP Touchpad 4G - Issue running
[email protected] said:
The original TPtoolbox thread answers this 4G question as: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52923285&postcount=65
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Good thing I didn't wipe webOS off! I'd have a nice frisbee. Hopefully these guru's will fix that issue and we can all be happy. Thanks JCSullins.
Greetings, developers and friends!
My Touchpad is now stuck in a continuous boot, with Android backed up in Clockworkmod but I tried restoring and didn't work. A couple of days ago I deleted info on my SD card because it was too bogged down and didn't let me update anything. I did my best but I decided to do this,so I own it. Attempted to flash with Roland's video instructions and got all my files in order: Problem is, on the command prompt I get a message of "Device Not Recognized.
Here's what I see when booting:
Moboot 0. 3. 8
HP logo
boot ClockworkMod
boot Cyanogenmod
boot WebOS
boot webOS Recovery
reboot
shutdown
Then the screen goes light dark, as if the animation of CyanogenMod is going to be up and running but it doesn't. Is there a remedy to fix the SD card problem, maybe that will take care of it and my laptop can see the TouchPad? Backup works fine on ClockworkMod, restore does too but nothing happens.
Any takers? I have another HP tablet that I will not mess with, but I'd rather have both running Android.
Thanks,
chicawhyte
chicawhyte said:
Greetings, developers and friends!
My Touchpad is now stuck in a continuous boot, with Android backed up in Clockworkmod but I tried restoring and didn't work. A couple of days ago I deleted info on my SD card because it was too bogged down and didn't let me update anything. I did my best but I decided to do this,so I own it. Attempted to flash with Roland's video instructions and got all my files in order: Problem is, on the command prompt I get a message of "Device Not Recognized.
Here's what I see when booting:
Moboot 0. 3. 8
HP logo
boot ClockworkMod
boot Cyanogenmod
boot WebOS
boot webOS Recovery
reboot
shutdown
Then the screen goes light dark, as if the animation of CyanogenMod is going to be up and running but it doesn't. Is there a remedy to fix the SD card problem, maybe that will take care of it and my laptop can see the TouchPad? Backup works fine on ClockworkMod, restore does too but nothing happens.
Any takers? I have another HP tablet that I will not mess with, but I'd rather have both running Android.
Thanks,
chicawhyte
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UPDATE: Was able to get through the Android removal, but it bothers me that one of the scrolling messages says, "no cminstall dir found, nothing to install.
chicawhyte said:
UPDATE: Was able to get through the Android removal, but it bothers me that one of the scrolling messages says, "no cminstall dir found, nothing to install.
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TouchPad toolbox will solve it.
Moody66 said:
TouchPad toolbox will solve it.
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Where is the Toolbox? Looked in Preware, Just Type and everywhere else and I can't find it. Thanks.
Found it on another thread, printed it out. Will take care of this after work. Thanks.
chicawhyte
chicawhyte said:
Found it on another thread, printed it out. Will take care of this after work. Thanks.
chicawhyte
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It didn't work....aborted.... :crying:
It didn't, it aborted. I tried Roland's way and attempted to flash it but still the message is the same, no cminstall dir, power off when ready. Let me see if I can get a hold of him or JC (it'd be incredibly lucky for me) I hope my tablet can get the Android back.
Roland asked me about this, this is my reply. Feel free to help out.
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It didn't, it aborted. I tried Roland's way and attempted to flash it but still the message is the same, no cminstall dir, power off when ready. Let me see if I can get a hold of him or JC (it'd be incredibly lucky for me) I hope my tablet can get the Android back.
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+Roland Deschain Ok Roland, what I have tried was to gain more memory on my tablet; there were several apps deleted, cached space, did all I could because I had an update via Goo.im. I tried to flash it but I was not successful; asides from that, there were automatic updates that the Touchpad did not allow due to low storage space.That is when I made the serious mistake of deleting the SD card.
I tried to uninstall according to your instructions and then load up the 5M to go back to full throttle, but for whatever reason when the scroll happened the messages were off-key, meaning that folders and files were not installed and not the usual way. That's when I realized there was trouble; I had made two Nandroid backups that are still in the Touchpad. I had only WebOS and no Android to be seen. I restored the most recent backup via ROM Manager and I thought that that would do the trick, still no Android (?).
I decided to try and reach out to my fellows at XDA-Developers because I try everything before I go to the forum; I know the rules there. That's when I was made aware of the Toolbox by JC Sullins and I downloaded it. Followed the instructions hoping to install Android that way but it didn't go past 3 seconds of Step 1. That's when I get the message(s) that there's nothing to install and cuts off.
I am aware of a way to format the SD card (if that is the problem) but for that stuff I need specific instructions, like here, to do so. I have another TouchPad 32 GB that I performed a double-boot as you instructed us to do; what I need is some specific cause(s) and what to do because the idea of wiping everything including WebOS, using WebOS Doctor to reinstall it and then Android does not appeal to me. I want to get to the bottom of it, I like to figure this stuff out and do it myself
Thanks for your work and for helping us turn a good tablet into the best tablet around!
Greetings,
Please read below my message to Roland and my problem below/wanted to add that now on both computers (my laptop where I do the flashes) and my husband's where I copied the Palm, Inc. folder to attempt Android there-the message I get is that "there is no hardware found" on the command prompt.
Please try to follow the instructions and explain things when requested
chicawhyte said:
Hello Roland, help!!!!! Please read this thread and let me know if I have to wipe everything and restart from scratch with WebOS Doctor. Here's the thread from xda-developers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-...r-boot-loops-deleted-sd-t2803190/post53886856. Runs WebOS fine, but no Android to be seen; files are there but it won't let me format the whole tablet. Thanks!
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RolandDeschain79 said:
"Hey so I took a look but that just tells me you're confused and trying to follow multiple sets of instructions. Can you list what you've tried and where you get stuck. There's no cminstall folder in this set of instructions its a ttinstall folder. Did you complete the first steps of uninstalling android and wiping the USB drive?"
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chicawhyte said:
+Roland Deschain Ok Roland, what I have tried was to gain more memory on my tablet; there were several apps deleted, cached space, did all I could because I had an update via Goo.im. I tried to flash it but I was not successful; asides from that, there were automatic updates that the Touchpad did not allow due to low storage space.That is when I made the serious mistake of deleting the SD card.
I tried to uninstall according to your instructions and then load up the 5M to go back to full throttle, but for whatever reason when the scroll happened the messages were off-key, meaning that folders and files were not installed and not the usual way. That's when I realized there was trouble; I had made two Nandroid backups that are still in the Touchpad. I had only WebOS and no Android to be seen. I restored the most recent backup via ROM Manager and I thought that that would do the trick, still no Android (?).
I decided to try and reach out to my fellows at XDA-Developers because I try everything before I go to the forum; I know the rules there. That's when I was made aware of the Toolbox by JC Sullins and I downloaded it. Followed the instructions hoping to install Android that way but it didn't go past 3 seconds of Step 1. That's when I get the message(s) that there's nothing to install and cuts off.
I am aware of a way to format the SD card (if that is the problem) but for that stuff I need specific instructions, like here, to do so. I have another TouchPad 32 GB that I performed a double-boot as you instructed us to do; what I need is some specific cause(s) and what to do because the idea of wiping everything including WebOS, using WebOS Doctor to reinstall it and then Android does not appeal to me. I want to get to the bottom of it, I like to figure this stuff out and do it myself
Thanks for your work and for helping us turn a good tablet into the best tablet around!
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Please try and limit your conversation to one location. People who spam my YouTube channel and the forum with the same questions tend to get permanently banned without warning. Consider this a warning.
chicawhyte said:
......That is when I made the serious mistake of deleting the SD card.
.......I am aware of a way to format the SD card (if that is the problem) but for that stuff I need specific instructions, like here, to do so. I have another TouchPad 32 GB that I performed a double-boot as you instructed us to do; what I need is some specific cause(s) and what to do because the idea of wiping everything including WebOS, using WebOS Doctor to reinstall it and then Android does not appeal to me. I want to get to the bottom of it, I like to figure this stuff out and do it myself
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Secondly if I ask you a question try to answer it as completely as possible. Don't tell me you made a mistake by wiping the SDcard then refuse to tell me how you did this even after I asked specifically about it. Claiming that you know how to wipe the SDcard then asking for specific instructions how to do so doesn't give me confidence in your ability. If you wiped the SDcard from a windows PC then you've made your own problem and completely ignored all the available instructions.
chicawhyte said:
. Followed the instructions hoping to install Android that way but it didn't go past 3 seconds of Step 1. That's when I get the message(s) that there's nothing to install and cuts off.
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I'm having a very hard time understanding why you say you're stuck on step 1, which is installing novacom and backing up your data, when you're talking about step 5 installing android???
Step by step instructions have been provided and I even made a long video that reads you all the info. No one can help you to follow instructions that's up to you. Saying you didn't want to follow the instructions then asking for help is just silly. If you do not wish to change the layout of your touchpad just stick to the Non data media roms.
New Super Easy Way Guide and video available
[ROM GUIDE]How to use the TouchPad Toolbox to install Android "The Super Easy Way"(DM & Non-DM)
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I guess I am an idiot because I cannot seem to get 3 downloads that work.
the fat kid said:
i appreciate the quick response, so im throwing in the zip file that says " update-cwm-jcs>>>>>>>>>>>>" along with the "gapps-kk>>>>>>>"
and then unmounting media volume?
again, thank you,.
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edit: just tried all 3 of the recovery files in the op and it still says same error message. any ideas? should i be renaming this from update-cwm blah blah, to the format that it is saying is accepted such as,
It will recognize as a compatible KitKat/DataMedia ROM files that look like:
cm-11-*-tenderloin.zip or
ev_tenderloin-nightly-2014.??.??.zip or
aokp_tenderloin_kitkat_*.zip
again im throwing the gapps-kk-20140105.zip in the ttinstall folder along with the update-cwm-jcs-dm-tenderloin.zip file and then ejecting the tp selecgint unmount media volume and am still getting the error message.
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geez im a freakin moron.... i had incompatible zip files... sorry folks for the clutter
all other noobs like me WATCH THE VIDEO TWICE.
thanks again, all of you are awesome and hopefully this makes my touchpad relevant again.
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Would you be so kind as to tell me the 3 downloads you used because I have tried and tried and no success.
Can the Touchpad Toolbox be updated to so that it will accept GAPPS named pa_gapps-*4.4.4-*.zip instead of pa_gapps-*-4.4.2-*.zip?
Either that or remove or allow to skip the requirement that GAPPS zip must be present to do the "Install Android" selection. I eventually worked around it rejecting by renaming the 4.4.4 to 4.4.2 but it will probably frusturate novice users.
tweak42 said:
Can the Touchpad Toolbox be updated to so that it will accept GAPPS named pa_gapps-*4.4.4-*.zip instead of pa_gapps-*-4.4.2-*.zip?
Either that or remove or allow to skip the requirement that GAPPS zip must be present to do the "Install Android" selection. I eventually worked around it rejecting by renaming the 4.4.4 to 4.4.2 but it will probably frusturate novice users.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54986968&postcount=293
TPtoolbox boot menu volume rocker not work.
Hi, I ran the tptoolbox and boots in to menu, but the volume button up or down does work, neither does pressing home. But home and pwer button will reboot device. I tried many times no response from volume rocker in menu. Please help, thanks.
I have the 4G Hp Touchpad 1.5 ghz, dual core 32 gb.
Anyone know if the charging dock will still work following an android installation?
Also, I will search for compatible rom builds, but do themes work as well? (Not sure why they wouldn't, just checking)
sj
Sent from my gTab3 (SM-T210R) on NoleKat v1.4 using [email protected] HD Mobile Pro
sjsharksfan420 said:
Anyone know if the charging dock will still work following an android installation?
Also, I will search for compatible rom builds, but do themes work as well? (Not sure why they wouldn't, just checking)
sj
Sent from my gTab3 (SM-T210R) on NoleKat v1.4 using [email protected] HD Mobile Pro
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Yes the Touchstone charging dock works on android...
TP Toolbox failed; I'm OS-less; please help
I'm on a Mac.
I can't figure out how to make tptoolbox work on the Mac.
I went to a frustrated friend with a PC (Windows) who did not allow me enough time to complete my task.
My Touchpad is now OS-less, as in no OS; no WebOS, no Android.
I successfully did a full data wipe, twice. Thus no OS.
I couldn't get past the next step, install Android, on TPToolbox.
I got stimied after trying to copy the three files to the ttinstall folder. It said a proper recovery file was not found.
I followed the steps above to a T. I copied and pasted the three files from the windows batch to the ttinstall.
I realize in those three files there were no gapps, no recovery, no kitkat files.
So I hope I copied the right three.
Anyway, my frustrated impatient friend kicked me out, so I have no access to a PC anymore (just my old faithful Mac); I have a TP without an operating system on it; and I have no idea how to proceed (as I don't know which three files I'm supposed to copy and paste as it seems the ones I did copy and paste weren't the ones and there's no Gapps, no Recovery and no Android KitKat installs anywhere (I thought that would be within the TP Toolbox programme itself.)
Like I said, I clicked on the correct links, I went with JCSullins first link vs. the other two.
So somebody, anybody, write me back if they know either how I can proceed, or if I can just send you my TP and you can do a big favour for a small nobody.
Thanks everybody.
If not, anyone wanna buy a TP with no OS?
I still need help. HELP!
I still need help. Anybody? HELP!!!
vizspace said:
I'm on a Mac.
I can't figure out how to make tptoolbox work on the Mac.
I went to a frustrated friend with a PC (Windows) who did not allow me enough time to complete my task.
My Touchpad is now OS-less, as in no OS; no WebOS, no Android.
I successfully did a full data wipe, twice. Thus no OS.
I couldn't get past the next step, install Android, on TPToolbox.
I got stimied after trying to copy the three files to the ttinstall folder. It said a proper recovery file was not found.
I followed the steps above to a T. I copied and pasted the three files from the windows batch to the ttinstall.
I realize in those three files there were no gapps, no recovery, no kitkat files.
So I hope I copied the right three.
Anyway, my frustrated impatient friend kicked me out, so I have no access to a PC anymore (just my old faithful Mac); I have a TP without an operating system on it; and I have no idea how to proceed (as I don't know which three files I'm supposed to copy and paste as it seems the ones I did copy and paste weren't the ones and there's no Gapps, no Recovery and no Android KitKat installs anywhere (I thought that would be within the TP Toolbox programme itself.)
Like I said, I clicked on the correct links, I went with JCSullins first link vs. the other two.
So somebody, anybody, write me back if they know either how I can proceed, or if I can just send you my TP and you can do a big favour for a small nobody.
Thanks everybody.
If not, anyone wanna buy a TP with no OS?
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Have you tried to install it using jcsullins recommendation that you use the Linux way with Mac?
Kit Kat working
OK, like the chap above, I moved the wrong three files into the ttinstall folder. I figured that out. It's the way the thread was written, easy to get confused as they have links right below and say it's those, when in fact it is not (a gapps, recovery and rom need to be moved in there, not the data version of android as that link downloads). Anyway, I sorted it out. Just putting closure on that. Thanks JCSullins! Now we need a Mac version so I need not borrow a friends PC laptop.
vizspace said:
I'm on a Mac.
I can't figure out how to make tptoolbox work on the Mac.
I went to a frustrated friend with a PC (Windows) who did not allow me enough time to complete my task.
My Touchpad is now OS-less, as in no OS; no WebOS, no Android.
I successfully did a full data wipe, twice. Thus no OS.
I couldn't get past the next step, install Android, on TPToolbox.
I got stimied after trying to copy the three files to the ttinstall folder. It said a proper recovery file was not found.
I followed the steps above to a T. I copied and pasted the three files from the windows batch to the ttinstall.
I realize in those three files there were no gapps, no recovery, no kitkat files.
So I hope I copied the right three.
Anyway, my frustrated impatient friend kicked me out, so I have no access to a PC anymore (just my old faithful Mac); I have a TP without an operating system on it; and I have no idea how to proceed (as I don't know which three files I'm supposed to copy and paste as it seems the ones I did copy and paste weren't the ones and there's no Gapps, no Recovery and no Android KitKat installs anywhere (I thought that would be within the TP Toolbox programme itself.)
Like I said, I clicked on the correct links, I went with JCSullins first link vs. the other two.
So somebody, anybody, write me back if they know either how I can proceed, or if I can just send you my TP and you can do a big favour for a small nobody.
Thanks everybody.
If not, anyone wanna buy a TP with no OS?
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vizspace said:
--SNIP--
Now we need a Mac version so I need not borrow a friends PC laptop.
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Have you tried running the script in terminal as jcsullins suggested?
C) Run the script provided with TPToolbox
Extract the contents of the TPToolbox zip file from above.
Navigate to the tptoolbox_v40 directory that was extracted from the zip.
On Windows, run the batch file named tptb_v40_win.bat
On Linux, run the script named tptb_v40_nix.sh
On Mac, try what I said for Linux and let me know what happens.
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About the .sh file on a Mac; and, question about transferring files
shumash said:
Have you tried running the script in terminal as jcsullins suggested?
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Hi Shumash, Thank you for writing and being interactive. Yes I did do as suggested and tried running the .sh (linux) file on my Mac. The file opened with TextWrangler and read:
#!/bin/sh
# This script is Copyright (c) 2014 James Sullins, All rights reserved.
# James (JC) Sullins, aka jcsullins
# No modifications or distribution without permission
TPTB=TPToolbox-2014-05-18-v40.bin
if [ \! -r ${TPTB} ];
then
echo "Cannot find Touchpad Toolbox binary file ${TPTB}"
exit 1
fi
echo "Checking novacom service ..."
novacom -l
rc=$?
if [ $rc -ne 0 ];
then
if [ $rc -eq 1 ];
then
echo "Cannot find novacomd service. Try rebooting or re-installing novacomd"
exit 2
elif [ $rc -eq 127 ];
then
echo "Unable to find novacom program. Try re-installing novacomd"
exit 4
else
echo "Unknown error rc=$rc checking for novacom service. (novacom -l)"
exit 3
fi
fi
echo "Loading TPToolbox ..."
novacom boot mem:// < ${TPTB}
rc=$?
if [ $rc -ne 0 ];
then
if [ $rc -eq 1 ];
then
echo "Cannot connect to Touchpad."
echo "Make sure Touchpad is connected with USB cable."
echo "Make sure Touchpad is in webOS Recovery (bootie) mode."
echo " (where big USB symbol shows on Touchpad screen)"
exit 5
else
echo "Unknown error rc=$rc loading TPToolbox (via novacom boot)."
exit 6
fi
fi
I did a quick search online and found that Macs don't handle the .sh command, rather the command is, believe it or not, .command.
More that that I'm a novice. So I can't say.
And that's when I went to borrow a friend's PC whereupon I double clicked the .win file, extracted it, then ran it in the ensuing window no problem.
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Now I'm glad someone is reading this thread. I have a question for you (or anyone). Now that I've TP Toolbox'd my HP Touchpad (and I did not select the option to install WebOS on it), how do I transfer files from my Mac (preferred method) to the HP Touchpad now?
I put it in recovery mode (the big USB sign) but it didn't show up on my Mac desktop. It was unrecognized in the Finder too.
So I went back to my friend on hands and knees and am now using TP Toolbox to put an updated file into the ttinstall folder. Is TP Toolbox now the only way to get files on and off my Touchpad? Say it ain't so (and walk me through the process if it ain't so).
There must be an easier way. What am I to do? Please help. Thanks.
vizspace said:
Hi Shumash, Thank you for writing and being interactive. Yes I did do as suggested and tried running the .sh (linux) file on my Mac. The file opened with TextWrangler and read:
--SNIP--
There must be an easier way. What am I to do? Please help. Thanks.
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From a search on Google (I don't have a Mac):
First in terminal make the script executable by typing:
chmod a+x (yourscriptname)
Then in finder right-click your file and select "Open with" and then "Other...".
Here you select the application you want the file to execute into, in this case it would be Terminal. To be able to select terminal you need to switch from "Recommended Applications" to "All Applications".
NOTE that unless you don't want to associate all files with this extension to be run in terminal you should not have "Always Open With" checked.
After clicking OK you should be able to execute the script by simply double-clicking it.
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file xfer and mac script
1. How do i xfer files from mac to touchpad and back? Need i use tptoolbox or is there anther way?
2. Second quetion, separate from first...
You wrote:
Quote:
First in terminal make the script executable by typing:
chmod a+x (yourscriptname) wrote:
I dont understand that. What is a script name? Is it my computer name? Other? Where would i find this info?
If my name were viz, and it isn't, would i type
chmod a+x (viz)
(With brackets, as you did)
Or
Chmod a+x viz
(Without the brackets)
Again, what is my scriptname?
3. Is this related to quetion 1? Does yor response suggest all files must niw be xferred using tptoolbox (in the method you described) if im using a mac and that there is no other way to accomlish that task?
vizspace said:
1. How do i xfer files from mac to touchpad and back? Need i use tptoolbox or is there anther way?
2. Second quetion, separate from first...
You wrote:
Quote:
First in terminal make the script executable by typing:
chmod a+x (yourscriptname) wrote:
I dont understand that. What is a script name? Is it my computer name? Other? Where would i find this info?
If my name were viz, and it isn't, would i type
chmod a+x (viz)
(With brackets, as you did)
Or
Chmod a+x viz
(Without the brackets)
Again, what is my scriptname?
3. Is this related to quetion 1? Does yor response suggest all files must niw be xferred using tptoolbox (in the method you described) if im using a mac and that there is no other way to accomlish that task?
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Google is your friend. Search first, ask second. I'm outta here:
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=how+to+run+shell+script+mac
vizspace said:
1. How do i xfer files from mac to touchpad and back? Need i use tptoolbox or is there anther way?
2. Second quetion, separate from first...
You wrote:
Quote:
First in terminal make the script executable by typing:
chmod a+x (yourscriptname) wrote:
I dont understand that. What is a script name? Is it my computer name? Other? Where would i find this info?
If my name were viz, and it isn't, would i type
chmod a+x (viz)
(With brackets, as you did)
Or
Chmod a+x viz
(Without the brackets)
Again, what is my scriptname?
3. Is this related to quetion 1? Does yor response suggest all files must niw be xferred using tptoolbox (in the method you described) if im using a mac and that there is no other way to accomlish that task?
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This link may be of use to you :
https://www.android.com/filetransfer/.
TP Toolbox on a Mac
This system will not allow me to post my questions. It claims I have a URL in my message (which I do not) and won't allow me to post.
Is there another way to contact you?
Another email? Forum? Etc.?
I saved my questions as I can not submit them here.
There's a problem with the XDA forum.
Mac TPToolbox and other juicy issues
shumash said:
Google is your friend. Search first, ask second. I'm outta here:
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=how+to+run+shell+script+mac
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shumash said:
Google is your friend. Search first, ask second. I'm outta here:
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=how+to+run+shell+script+mac
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Thanks. I followed your link (to google) and read many results. The easiest looking result, which almost worked was this:
shumash said:
Google is your friend. Search first, ask second. I'm outta here:
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=how+to+run+shell+script+mac
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it was the fourth result, entitled: "How to run a unix shell script from the Mac Finder"
I followed those instructions.
Terminal opened (launched from the Finder window using their noted technique) and here is what was displayed in Terminal: (please note: I exchanged my computer name from it's real name to ABC and XYZ (for this thread; not my real computer name).
Last login: Fri Oct 24 11:27:14 on ttys000
ABC:~ XYZ$ /Users/XYZ/Downloads/HP\ Touchpad\ Tools/tptoolbox_v40/tptb_v40_nix.command ; exit;
Cannot find Touchpad Toolbox binary file TPToolbox-2014-05-18-v40.bin
logout
[Process completed]
I do see the .bin file in the same folder, the TPToolbox folder, as tptb_v40_nix.sh (which, by the way, I duplicated and changed the extension from .sh to .command, prior to searching in Finder as outlined in above links' description).
So I don't know what to do.
I know a lot of things you likely do not know; but you clearly know more about computers than I. Please be patient and explain succinctly.
I tried your method, first replied from , with and without brackets, that didn't help.
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Regarding Android File Transfer, and I thank the contributor below for chiming in with that advice, I've used that, but it only works sometimes. It is not reliable; and doesn't see ALL the files (as a WebOS USB connection to my Mac used to).
Is there some way to put the HP Touchpad into USB mode and connect it to my Mac (like I used to before on the HP WebOS side (when I had an HP WebOS side)? This may be argument enough to keep the WebOS side. (I can put it in USB mode on Android, but the Mac does not recognize the HP Touchpad at all doing it that way).
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Another unrelated question: What ever happened to PreWare? I can't find it anywhere. I installed Jason Robitaille's WebOS QuickInstall 4.5.0 and ran it ok. But when one clicks on the globe, there's no Preware. When one clicks on the Search field , there are zero results (except themes). No Applications, Kernels, Patches, etc.. Nothing. So what ever happened to Preware?
Not having been able to find that, and with Palm no longer supporting WebOS at all after Jan 15, 2015, was the nail in the coffin for WebOS for me. If I can't find Preware and all the apps and tweaks that come along with it, the only reason I can see keeping any WebOS on this tablet at all is to be able to put it in to WebOS USB mode and easily connect it to my Mac.
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Lastly, I'm running JCSullins build titled/dated: cm-11-20141002-SNAPSHOT-jcsullins-tenderloin.zip
How do I take a screenshot with this ROM? It used to be Power button and lower volume button, but that screenshot option is no longer available in this JCSullins build, nor in the previous build: cm-11-20140625-SNAPSHOT-jcsullins-tenderloin.zip
Any ideas how to take a screenshot?
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sstar said:
This link may be of use to you :
https://www.android.com/filetransfer/.
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Regarding Android File Transfer, and I thank the contributor below for chiming in with that advice, I've used that, but it only works sometimes. It is not reliable; and doesn't see ALL the files (as a WebOS USB connection to my Mac used to).
Is there some way to put the HP Touchpad into USB mode and connect it to my Mac (like I used to before on the HP WebOS side (when I had an HP WebOS side)? This may be argument enough to keep the WebOS side. (I can put it in USB mode on Android, but the Mac does not recognize the HP Touchpad at all doing it that way).
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Another unrelated question: What ever happened to PreWare? I can't find it anywhere. I installed Jason Robitaille's WebOS QuickInstall 4.5.0 and ran it ok. But when one clicks on the globe, there's no Preware. When one clicks on the Search field , there are zero results (except themes). No Applications, Kernels, Patches, etc.. Nothing. So what ever happened to Preware?
Not having been able to find that, and with Palm no longer supporting WebOS at all after Jan 15, 2015, was the nail in the coffin for WebOS for me. If I can't find Preware and all the apps and tweaks that come along with it, the only reason I can see keeping any WebOS on this tablet at all is to be able to put it in to WebOS USB mode and easily connect it to my Mac.
vizspace said:
--SNIP--
Last login: Fri Oct 24 11:27:14 on ttys000
ABC:~ XYZ$ /Users/XYZ/Downloads/HP\ Touchpad\ Tools/tptoolbox_v40/tptb_v40_nix.command ; exit;
Cannot find Touchpad Toolbox binary file TPToolbox-2014-05-18-v40.bin
logout
[Process completed]
I do see the .bin file in the same folder, the TPToolbox folder, as tptb_v40_nix.sh (which, by the way, I duplicated and changed the extension from .sh to .command, prior to searching in Finder as outlined in above links' description).
So I don't know what to do.
--SNIP--]
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My guess is that executing the shell script by double-clicking starts it in the wrong directory. Open a terminal in the directory where you have the Toolbox files and execute it from the command line there.