I'm thinking that I may have a bad SD card in my N1.
Current setup:
[email protected] [v2.8] MCR r19 MOD [FRF83]
Old style A2SD+
After a little while, in this case an hour or so, any app that is installed/moved to the SD card become inaccessible. The OS sees the app, sort of. Most of the time the link to an app disappears all together. Sometime there will still be a link to an app, but when I try to launch it, it says the app is no longer installed. I'll go into the app manager(settings, application, manage) and apps that were installed/moved to the SD card just show a generic SD card icon and I can't get any info for the app. I try restarting/force stopping the launcher (both LauncherPro and ADW) and sometime the apps will show up again and will work, sometime the icon will show but will not launch, and sometime the app are still gone. And eventually, I will not be able to see the SD card when hooked to my computer. On the flip side though, if I boot into recovery(RA 1.0.7), I can turn on USB-MS Toggle and I can copy to and from the SD card all I want.
I just a full wipe(factory reset, cache, dalvik, ext, battery, rotate) because I was having these problems before, and I was using the regular Froyo A2SD before, so I decided to us the old style A2SD+ this time to see if that fixed the problem, but it's still happening.
Again, I'm thinking bad SD card, but I'd like some other opinions/ideas/confirmations.
So no one has any thoughts on this?
Is there anyway to FORCE the apps to use the MicroSD memory instead of the Internal storage?
It seems every app I've installed ( Dropbox, Google Docs, Evernote, etc) uses the internal memory. I have a 32GB MicroSD that seems to be useless right now. I tried moving all the apps to SD, but they still use the Internal Memory to store cache/files
I have yet to see a fix for this as well. The way I work around this is if the app saves files to the internal storage there is usually a setting in the settings menu that will allow you to change where it saves files. For instance with the TapeRecorder app. It automatically saves files to the sdcard (which Motorola stupidly named the internal storage for). I go to the settings and change the "sdcard" to "sdcard-ext", then it works!
For the time being, you can use the SD-EXT microsd card for music, videos, pictures, TiBU backups, downloads, etc., but in some cases you need to change some settings to do so. Apps cannot be installed on the external microsd card for now and you should make sure you 'move to phone' any apps which are check marked in the 'media' area or you are subject to losing them.
Sorry this next generation android phone just like Droid X it has dedicated app memory. That memory is used strictly for those apps. U can put 500 apps and not run out of room. SD card is used for media music movies etc
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Groid said:
For the time being, you can use the SD-EXT microsd card for music, videos, pictures, TiBU backups, downloads, etc., but in some cases you need to change some settings to do so. Apps cannot be installed on the external microsd card for now and you should make sure you 'move to phone' any apps which are check marked in the 'media' area or you are subject to losing them.
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Is this why When I selected "Move to Media Area" the application shortcut disappears from the "All Apps" menu?
I moved 2 games to the "Media Area" and now they are gone... they are still installed, but I have no way of accessing them. (I know they are still installed because when I went to reinstall, it said something about it replacing an app thats already install)
After researching more, and fumbling through the phone I discovered that Motorola has deemed the 8GB of Internal memory as an SDCard.
Another FAIL for Motorola, and I doubt there will ever be a fix for this. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
Stated on the Motorola Forums:
Folks, it's the storage naming system in Android. If you go to any forum for any phone with internal and external memory you'll see the same complaints. There are multiple threads about it here.
Even though in Motorola's file manager you see "internal phone memory" and "SD Card", the internal memory is actually "sdcard" and the external is "sdcard-ext". Like I said, it's like this on every brand of phone with this set up.
So, what's happening is the apps are saving to the internal memory because it is, in fact, the SD card. Motorola has tried to remedy this confusion by discontinuing to say "move to SD" and instead now calls it "Move to Media area".
And no, your external SD is not useless. You can still set your photos from the camera to save directly to your external, you can still put music and movies and all kinds of media on your external and your phone will see them just fine. This is why there is a 16GB card included with your phone, so you can use it for media and if you want to move your apps off of the system memory to save space you move it to the 8GB internal area. Of course 8GB is still plenty of space for apps and other media as well
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EDIT: BFirebird101 stated this to, I don't know why, but when I was scrolling it passed over his post. Didn't mean to restate what he said.
I've been *****ing about this problem for weeks and nobody seems to care, and it also seems to not bother anybody either.
Its a crock of sh1t. Yea you can save media files on the real SD card, but how many apps actually find them? Smooth move Motofùckingrola!
Fortunately with some coaxing and about a month of messing around, DoubleTwist can find media files on sdcard-ext. Its about the only worthy music player that can.
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Tornlogic said:
I've been *****ing about this problem for weeks and nobody seems to care, and it also seems to not bother anybody either.
Its a crock of sh1t. Yea you can save media files on the real SD card, but how many apps actually find them? Smooth move Motofùckingrola!
Fortunately with some coaxing and about a month of messing around, DoubleTwist can find media files on sdcard-ext. Its about the only worthy music player that can.
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The Stock Music App seems to find the music files just fine on the MicroSD (just add some to try) and the Gallery Finds the Pictures. But I don't give a damn about Music or Pictures.
I have 123MB of the "Internal Memory" (SDCard) left - after I loaded all my work documents (spreadsheets, powerpoints, etc) & E-books. Right now I have to Move the file from the SDcard (InternalMemory) to the SDCard-Ext(MicroSD) after I've edit it and reuploaded it to Google Docs, then if I want to Edit it agian, I have to move it back to the SDCard(Internal Memory) Just so Google Docs will see it again.
Stock? That's okay, I'll pass. I froze those apps with TiBackup.
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i use videovault and when i pulled my video vault folder from my old backup and loaded it to the external SD, the VideoVault did not find them. There is no way i will load 4GB of videos into my Internal 8GB card just so i can haz my pronz!
What I noticed is this seems to be very similar to how the Xoom and Honeycomb handles sdcards and internal storage (minus the fact that we still cant write to sdcards on stock honeycomb....) so it could be Motorola setup the phone this way for a smoother migration to Ice Cream Sandwich when it comes out?
If ICS looks anything like the "leaked" video then ill pass.
It seems that MOTOROLA Android devices are the only ones with the MicroSD issues.
I have an Asus Transformer android tablet that has absolutely NO trouble at all when it come to read/write access of the MicroSD.
Motorola seems to fudge everything up. But verizon doesnt off any better phones (IMO)
You would think with all the Smart/Nerdy People on this site, someone would come up with a way to Rename the partitions Motorola has setup.
If it was just possible to rename the "SDCard-Ext" To "SDCard" ...
The reason you have no issue is Asus did a hack mod to get the SD card to work. Moto did the same on European xooms but on USA version its a google product there fore moto has no control on software manipulation. As for apps to SD card there is no need the device has dedicated app storage stritctly for apps.
KoolAidJunkie said:
If ICS looks anything like the "leaked" video then ill pass.
It seems that MOTOROLA Android devices are the only ones with the MicroSD issues.
I have an Asus Transformer android tablet that has absolutely NO trouble at all when it come to read/write access of the MicroSD.
Motorola seems to fudge everything up. But verizon doesnt off any better phones (IMO)
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I was downloading some games and such, and a notification popped up that I have 1.95GB of internal/phone memory (whatever the technical term for what the apps go on). However, I know the phone has way more space than that, it's just allocated as an "sd card". On other phones with physical cards, you are able to move apps to the card to save space. However, this doesn't appear to be an option with the one. Is there a way to do this that I am missing, or is the app storage space just that limited?
Thanks
My TL gives an warning says my internal storage is 75% full, but clearly I only used like 10%.
I transferred all my stuff to cloud (I don't have a SD card) and cleared the internal storage. Then it's been good for 2 weeks before the warning came back again. Now I can't even install apps because it says there's no sufficient storage. What is going on?
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My TL gives an warning says my internal storage is 75% full, but clearly I only used like 10%.
I transferred all my stuff to cloud (I don't have a SD card) and cleared the internal storage. Then it's been good for 2 weeks before the warning came back again. Now I can't even install apps because it says there's no sufficient storage. What is going on?
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Force close that service or disable the notification by holding it down from your notification pannel->info->disable notification
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Force close that service or disable the notification by holding it down from your notification pannel->info->disable notification
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Well I tried to ignore the notification but that's not a solution. It is a real problem. Now I got an Chrome update but it won't install because "Insufficient Storage".
ok now I've temporarily solved the problem by moving some apps from "phone" to "internal storage" (what does that even mean?)
so is there a "phone" storage separate from "internal storage"?
pentaquine said:
ok now I've temporarily solved the problem by moving some apps from "phone" to "internal storage" (what does that even mean?)
so is there a "phone" storage separate from "internal storage"?
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Well, yes. You have 2GB reserved on your phone (from the 16gb internal) for apps. Then you can move a part of some apps to the internal. Thats why you only have like 10GB on your internal. And not the 16GB as the phone comes with. It also uses that space for apps,rom,...
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Well, yes. You have 2GB reserved on your phone (from the 16gb internal) for apps. Then you can move a part of some apps to the internal. Thats why you only have like 10GB on your internal. And not the 16GB as the phone comes with. It also uses that space for apps,rom,...
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I see. Can I put more space to the reserved? Like 4GB for apps and 8GB for internal storage?
I found out clearing the cache of Chrome and Google+ frees up a lot of memory.
Do have anyone problems to make shortcuts from chrome/Firefox etc on Homescreen? If i will do a shortcut from some website on my Homescreen, it is not working. If I use the option under chrome settings than nothing is on my Homescreen.
I also have a problem in settings when i will move apps to SD cart, there is no button for it in the apps section inside settings.
Is it possible that there is a bug?
I'm on 47.1.A.12.75 firmware.
I don't have the shortcut issues, but as far as "Move to SD" concerns, that feature is not available on the XZ1c, for whatever reason.
BetaLyte said:
I don't have the shortcut issues, but as far as "Move to SD" concerns, that feature is not available on the XZ1c, for whatever reason.
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Is not unable because Sony don't want phone to lag or have any bug... They have a point.
I read somewhere on here, where someone wrote, that someone on Sony Forums reported that Move To SD started working after they factory reset the phone, while having an SD card inserted in the phone, and then formatted the card. Haven't tried in though.
Edit: Found the post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...nds-low-internal-memory-t3732214/post75697906