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Phone trading question

I bought my cappy from Amazon for a Penny with the stipulation that I keep it on my account for 180 days. My question is, if I were to trade it, how whould they find out? My brother wants to try out my phone for a couple of weeks and I'd be using his iPhone 3Gs

i do not see any problems here.

mengbo said:
i do not see any problems here.
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Neither do I but Amazon stated they can slap me with a $250 fee if I don't keep the phone for 180 days so I didn't want to do it.

They won't know if your just swap your SIM out into a new phone. But.. I dunno if it would work due to Apple just being different

The iphone data plan is a different data plan. When I switched from my iphone to the captivate, my data plan didn't work until I called att to get my data plan fixed.
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Thanks for your insights. So if I get the iphone data plan added to my acct I'm screwed? Guess I'll tell him no.
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The iphone data plan is a different data plan. When I switched from my iphone to the captivate, my data plan didn't work until I called att to get my data plan fixed.
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Wow, iCrap is really wrapping things tight. I switched from my blackberry to the captivate and nothing had to change. In fact I still have the BB Personal Unlimited w/texting on my plan today and have even made changes (like killing visual voice mail) and have not had issues or questions. (and yes my account now shows the captivate, they picked it up after the first day of use and changed the phone listed on my account) I'm not saying the iPhone isn't diff, it just kills me that they have to be such pricks about their crap.

Wind/Mobilicity Speed Tests

I know there are a number of speed test threads for the Nexus 4 but I want this one to be specifically for mobilicity and wind customers.
I have mobilicity's fake 4g premium data.. network type is set to lte/gsm/CDMA auto
Here are 7 test results with a peak of 10mbps down anyone on wind or Mobilicity will know that the speeds are unheard of.
These tests show an average speed of around 8 Mb but typical speeds are generally much closer to the 3.5 to 4 MB range.
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Where in Mississauga did you take these speeds? I'm so thrilled.

Near heartland and about 1 km away from a newly erected tower (Terry fox and eglinton).
Keep in mind these were taken on a Saturday morning between 10-1130 (minimal congestion)
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Ah, I live near the area too. Thanks for the reply!

Really awesome speeds...
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That's impressive I work in a wind store and have never been able to pull those kinda speeds.
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Damn, I feel sorry for you guys that live in Canada if you think those are good speeds...? The upload is horrid but the ping times are pretty good.

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Damn, I feel sorry for you guys that live in Canada if you think those are good speeds...? The upload is horrid but the ping times are pretty good.
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$25/m +$10 premium data.
How to complain?

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Damn, I feel sorry for you guys that live in Canada if you think those are good speeds...? The upload is horrid but the ping times are pretty good.
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Wind doesn't have a great network, but when you pay $29 a month for unlimited everything you don't expect lightning quick download speeds. I was with them for awhile but I had to switch back to Rogers for reliability purposes. Still, those are good speeds for wind. Hopefully they continue to improve their network.
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i dont know if they changed it, but when i had my galaxy nexus before nov 13, i was on basic data and i couldnt get more than 2 mbps, but i did get around 800kbps upload,
i wonder if got the fast speeds for basic data users too now, if not im going to switch to premium data

I managed to get 12 mbps down on wind at major mac and weston thats using Htc One S

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Damn, I feel sorry for you guys that live in Canada if you think those are good speeds...? The upload is horrid but the ping times are pretty good.
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I wouldn't feel sorry for me. As stated above, I pay $24.25/month for my BTS plan with unlimited local calling, unlimited text and unlimited data.
Can you find me a comparable plan in the States?

Wind here on HMP (no premium data) $45 Unlimited everything taxes in
3MBPS is my max DL. Home and office have towers within 1km> radius. Good enough to stream Netflix and I can watch Walking Dead with no pixelation. I exceed 5GB of data per month and would love to have 10MBPS but for extra $10 no way. The speed now is good enough for me. It's bearable.

I'm on mobilicity on the BTS (BACK TO SCHOOL PLAN), and I always get at least 1.5 - 2Mbps, (On my lg optimus one), the data's not that great but I love having unlimited everything. Can't wait to get a nexus 4.

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I wouldn't feel sorry for me. As stated above, I pay $24.25/month for my BTS plan with unlimited local calling, unlimited text and unlimited data.
Can you find me a comparable plan in the States?
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Let's not forget the coverage is pretty limited and the network is largely hit or miss.
To the OP, I think you are one of the first people I've seen with actual HSPA+ speeds on Mobi with their premium add-on. On the other hand, having to pay an extra $20 for that add-on kinda ruins the low-price idea of Mobi in my opinion.

To address multiple posts keep in mind that mobile is city is no contract. There is no denying that coverage is shoddy but at 40/month with no lock in and unlimited everything I'm not complaining.
To the previous poster: I actually only pay 40 dollars a month including the premium. I was actually on the friends and family plan for 35 dollars and in order to get the premium data I had to switch to 1 of the new plans which pissed me off.
I got in touch with Stewart Lyons and he personally saw to it that I got what I wanted. Ended up getting the new 50 percent off plans with everything I currently have plus extra roaming minutes and premium data for 5 dollars more than what I was previously paying.
All that said though the speeds are not consistent and I would really love to have 20 + MB/s... not willing to switch to one if the big 3 on a three year contract for that.
Telecomm in our country is so f****ng backwards
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Telecomm in our country is so f****ng backwards
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LOL that's it? Everything is so F-ing [email protected] here in Canada we're pathetic to be considered one of the top cities to live in the world. We can't even produce an Octopus card for our public transit system. How about capping our Internet? I could go on and on.
I'd still choose to live here over the US though (well, IF I really had to move to the US I'd move to Hawaii).
Let's not forget the coverage is pretty limited and the network is largely hit or miss.
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If you don't travel much then it doesn't matter.

the most i got was 8mbs, what is the best setting for hspa+, right now i keep it as cdma/gsm auto, to the OP you put lte/cdma/gsm, when LTE isnt supported whats the point

Yea I pretty much can't argue with that.
To previous post there really is no point I just do it on the off chance that it picks up layaway frequency and boosts my dbm.
The fact that I have an LTE microsim just makes it intuitive for me to want to keep it on that setting you never know what impact it may or may not have.
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It's really frustrating when Mobilicity caps my $600 Note 2 at 2 mbps. $25 is a great deal though.

Sprint did good - Non-HTC Related

I just called Sprint because my mom uses an LG Optimus S™
She consumes about 5-6 mb of data per month, but since it's a "smartphone" she has to get charged the $10 fee.
Well, I called in after having been with the phone for a couple of months and asked (Not told) if I had to pay for the fee since she only consumes about 5-6mb of data and doesn't really utilize the phone to its capabilities.
After putting me on hold of a min or two, she came back and told me that they evaluated her account and data consumption and will issue a $10 credit monthly to cover that.
I was reminded a couple of times that I should be paying for it because of the type of phone. Also, once I switch to a new phone the discount will be voided.
Still, their customer service really helped out. That's a $120+(taxes) yearly savings.

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I just called Sprint because my mom uses an LG Optimus S™
She consumes about 5-6 mb of data per month, but since it's a "smartphone" she has to get charged the $10 fee.
Well, I called in after having been with the phone for a couple of months and asked (Not told) if I had to pay for the fee since she only consumes about 5-6mb of data and doesn't really utilize the phone to its capabilities.
After putting me on hold of a min or two, she came back and told me that they evaluated her account and data consumption and will issue a $10 credit monthly to cover that.
I was reminded a couple of times that I should be paying for it because of the type of phone. Also, once I switch to a new phone the discount will be voided.
Still, their customer service really helped out. That's a $120+(taxes) yearly savings.
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That $10 fee is mandatory for smart phones its the data package for it in lames term everyone should pay for it and you shouldn't be excluded from that I mean I know you use a lot of data so do I. They don't charge you that because you use a lot of data, they charge you that because you have a smartphone
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They don't charge you that because you use a lot of data, they charge you that because you have a smartphone
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I pay for my data, but the statement wasn't about my data.
If you read what I wrote, my mother uses 5-6 mb.
That's not a lot. If anything that is just GMail syncing.

robfactory said:
I pay for my data, but the statement wasn't about my data.
If you read what I wrote, my mother uses 5-6 mb.
That's not a lot. If anything that is just GMail syncing.
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Thought that said GBs lol sorry my phone is being weird but that's pretty decent I tried doing that with one of my lines since the internet is almost always off but the excuse they gave me is even when the internet is off the phone still consumes data
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jazz995756 said:
That $10 fee is mandatory for smart phones its the data package for it in lames term everyone should pay for it and you shouldn't be excluded from that I mean I know you use a lot of data so do I. They don't charge you that because you use a lot of data, they charge you that because you have a smartphone
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Try talking to them now and mention the fact that they can trace the line the previous months to see the data pattern.
Since my mom doesn't even text, she can see this feature is lost on her.
I guess that's why they did it. I also have a business account with 6 lines, so that could have factored in to their decision.

I just called customer service today and they moved my upgrade up two weeks. So both my fiance and I got to upgrade our phones today. I was really impressed for how willing they were to satisfy us.
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I'm on WiFi all the time cause the service sucks, I should get a credit too. 3G is not usable around me

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I'm on WiFi all the time cause the service sucks, I should get a credit too. 3G is not usable around me
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You're in LA and you're not getting great service? Didn't they just drop a boat load of LTE all over you out there?

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You're in LA and you're not getting great service? Didn't they just drop a boat load of LTE all over you out there?
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I'm on the outskirts of LA County but still within its borders. Not in the actual city
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There are a couple models where they comp the premium data fee, like the Replenish. Might want to have your mom get one of these units instead, if they are available when she upgrades.

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There are a couple models where they comp the premium data fee, like the Replenish. Might want to have your mom get one of these units instead, if they are available when she upgrades.
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Yeah, they told me that. I'm bidding on one as a back up.

Originally the 10 dollars a month was a WiMAX surcharge, only charged to people with WiMAX phones... A couple months to a year later they renamed it to "premium data" and started charging all smart phones, which is a joke because they barely have any phones that aren't considered a "smart phone" anymore.

I have been with Sprint for 14 years and believe me I have had my share of ups and downs with their Customer Service Department. I have a fairly large account with them (8 phones) and have always managed to resolve issues. Sometimes I didn't get everything I was asking for, but was satisfied in the end.
Basically it's their plan pricing that keeps me a customer. As many have stated, their service in my area is not the greatest but having compared plans with other carriers I simply couldn't afford them.

Wifi Tethering (T-Mobile)

I know most of us have rooted roms and tethering is not a problem but just in case you dont want to circumvent the system T-Mobile now has free tethering with unlimited data plans. At least thats what they told me yesterday and added to my regular No-Contract acct. Call them up and check it out or sign up online and see. I was told its a feature that was just added on for them this month. My boy added it to his Iphone so I know it does work...
Hope it helps someone.... If this is old info my bad:good:

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I know most of us have rooted roms and tethering is not a problem but just in case you dont want to circumvent the system T-Mobile now has free tethering with unlimited data plans. At least thats what they told me yesterday and added to my regular No-Contract acct. Call them up and check it out or sign up online and see. I was told its a feature that was just added on for them this month. My boy added it to his Iphone so I know it does work...
Hope it helps someone.... If this is old info my bad:good:
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You may find you answer in the t-mobile thread
Getting Ready for my mini bath with my N4

Great disregard my post if this is known
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playya said:
I know most of us have rooted roms and tethering is not a problem but just in case you dont want to circumvent the system T-Mobile now has free tethering with unlimited data plans. At least thats what they told me yesterday and added to my regular No-Contract acct. Call them up and check it out or sign up online and see. I was told its a feature that was just added on for them this month. My boy added it to his Iphone so I know it does work...
Hope it helps someone.... If this is old info my bad:good:
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they include 500mb tethering in their plan. more than that, you need to pay. 500mb isnt much.

I know that my statement is that unlimited data vets you free tethering...at least it did for me.. Just an FYI to others call and check
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playya said:
I know that my statement is that unlimited data vets you free tethering...at least it did for me.. Just an FYI to others call and check
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Only for the first 500, as stated above.

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Only for the first 500, as stated above.
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Not sure how else to say this but here we go. Yesterday while in the T- Mobile store the rep I formed me of a recent change. Anyone with unlimited internet can now get tethering for free.... Unlimited tethering and not the first 509 as stated on the web by T-Mobile. I am not a rookie and was simply passing this on .Now if you have asked a rep today and they told you different then fine. But if your statements are based on anything prior to today ease refrain til you ask. Now I am simply posting as said prior as an FYI.... If I am wrong and it slows down after then my info was incorrect but until then I am going with what I was told... Again just trying to help I am on vacation now but will check my acct later and post screenshots if applicable
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Yes you get 500mb of tethering but there are questions as to T-mobile can truly track it since the Nexus 4 does not switch APNs when tethering like other phones do
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playya said:
Not sure how else to say this but here we go. Yesterday while in the T- Mobile store the rep I formed me of a recent change. Anyone with unlimited internet can now get tethering for free.... Unlimited tethering and not the first 509 as stated on the web by T-Mobile. I am not a rookie and was simply passing this on .Now if you have asked a rep today and they told you different then fine. But if your statements are based on anything prior to today ease refrain til you ask. Now I am simply posting as said prior as an FYI.... If I am wrong and it slows down after then my info was incorrect but until then I am going with what I was told... Again just trying to help I am on vacation now but will check my acct later and post screenshots if applicable
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There IS a recent change in the fine print language that indeed allows 500MB of tethering on 'Unlimited' data accounts, and I believe this is what the rep was referring to, whether intentional or not. It likely will never be 'unlimited tether' due to the fact of network restraints, and they have repeatedly indicated they do NOT want to be anyone's ISP for home-based bandwidth. Widespread 'unlimited tether' would bring this network to its knees in mere days. Please consider that this rep wasn't completely knowledgeable/forthcoming.

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There IS a recent change in the fine print language that indeed allows 500MB of tethering on 'Unlimited' data accounts, and I believe this is what the rep was referring to, whether intentional or not. It likely will never be 'unlimited tether' due to the fact of network restraints, and they have repeatedly indicated they do NOT want to be anyone's ISP for home-based bandwidth. Widespread 'unlimited tether' would bring this network to its knees in mere days. Please consider that this rep wasn't completely knowledgeable/forthcoming.
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Quite true it was hard for me to test since I am rooted and I am having my friend test on his IPhone. Easy to think the rep may of told me something wrong. Either way its more than what we had before Thx...
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playya said:
Quite true it was hard for me to test since I am rooted and I am having my friend test on his IPhone. Easy to think the rep may of told me something wrong. Either way its more than what we had before Thx...
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Welp, I did some quick google-digging, and DID come up with an interesting change in terms on all plans BUT the Unlimited Nationwide 4G, which still maintains the 500MB limit:
http://deals.t-mobile.com/unlimited-4g-data-no-contract
This page indicates all other 'Unlimited' data plans (no UN4G) can tether to their full rate...and fall back to 2G when the bucket empties. I'm happy to be wrong, playya! LOL!
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Aw man: again misleading..the fine print:
"Smartphone Mobile Hotspot: (Tethering/Wi-Fi Sharing): Qualifying plan required. Plan data allotment applies.; Unlimited 4G data plan includes 500 MB of tethering. No roaming. Use of connected devices subject to T-Mobile Terms and Conditions."
This statement can be read several ways, naturally...TMO really needs to step up and simplify this silly language.

wideasleep1 said:
Welp, I did some quick google-digging, and DID come up with an interesting change in terms on all plans BUT the Unlimited Nationwide 4G, which still maintains the 500MB limit:
http://deals.t-mobile.com/unlimited-4g-data-no-contract
This page indicates all other 'Unlimited' data plans (no UN4G) can tether to their full rate...and fall back to 2G when the bucket empties. I'm happy to be wrong, playya! LOL!
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Fyi- it was never about right or wrong just trying to pass some info along that I was given. Thx for the link and hope it helps others... Make the switch for free......
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playya said:
Fyi- it was never about right or wrong just trying to pass some info along that I was given. Thx for the link and hope it helps others... Make the switch for free......
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Gotcha...correct info is more important than right/wrong. I just recall several months back a thread where users were bemoaning paying for Unlimited Nationwide 4G and not getting ANY tethering...even when they wished to pay extra for it...it simply wasn't offered (assumed too abusive to the network). Even I was shocked they changed and allowed 500MB on that UN4G plan. Cheers!

I have the $30 pre paid 5 gig plan and you can add tethering for $15 a month. I have used it though with apps just during power outages. I never had an issue but I don't come close to using the 5 gigs anyways.
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playya said:
I know most of us have rooted roms and tethering is not a problem but just in case you dont want to circumvent the system T-Mobile now has free tethering with unlimited data plans. At least thats what they told me yesterday and added to my regular No-Contract acct. Call them up and check it out or sign up online and see. I was told its a feature that was just added on for them this month. My boy added it to his Iphone so I know it does work...
Hope it helps someone.... If this is old info my bad:good:
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Thanks @playaa:thumbup:
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MandoH said:
Thanks @playaa:thumbup:
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No prob glad it helped

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No prob glad it helped
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I just added it to my plan. I chatted with them first to confirm that it could later be canceled without affecting the basic plan. They prorated the first monthly fee because I'm already in middle of the billing period.
It annoys me that they make it so hard to find exact terms and conditions. At the moment, the blurb on the signup page doesn't say anything about limiting the high speeds to the first 500 MB, just says "Plan data allotment applies." The allotment is first 5 GB at up to 4G speed; time will tell if I get that with other connected devices.
How would they even know (sorry if that's an ignorant question)? Truth be told, I've been tethering all afternoon since my DSL went down. I decided to make it "official" when I found out it could take a couple of days to get my regular DSL back up again, but I didn't have any problems throughout the afternoon tethering a laptop and a tablet. Other than suddenly seeing a surge of use, how would they know I have tethered devices?

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I just added it to my plan. I chatted with them first to confirm that it could later be canceled without affecting the basic plan. They prorated the first monthly fee because I'm already in middle of the billing period.
It annoys me that they make it so hard to find exact terms and conditions. At the moment, the blurb on the signup page doesn't say anything about limiting the high speeds to the first 500 MB, just says "Plan data allotment applies." The allotment is first 5 GB at up to 4G speed; time will tell if I get that with other connected devices.
How would they even know (sorry if that's an ignorant question)? Truth be told, I've been tethering all afternoon since my DSL went down. I decided to make it "official" when I found out it could take a couple of days to get my regular DSL back up again, but I didn't have any problems throughout the afternoon tethering a laptop and a tablet. Other than suddenly seeing a surge of use, how would they know I have tethered devices?
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They randomly check user agent strings. I started getting the warning texts a few months ago (was on value unlimited which doesn't have a tethering allotment) and then they blocked me from accessing Internet Explorer from my laptop via mobile hotspot (but could still use Chrome or my iPad). One phone called they switched me to Simple Choice and kept my contract term so I didn't have to pay a migration fee.
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I just switched to unlimited 4g a few weeks ago and I've occasionally gotten rerouted to a page that says I don't have tethering or I've reached my data limit. Disabling tethering and reloading the page works to bypass the page I'm using native android tether, and that's the only problem I've seen so far.

how big of a data plan and how much data do you use?

so i lost my udp, but now have 12g of data. im curious what size data plans everyone has and what you actually use. having never had a tiered data plan before now im paranoid im gonna go over. with the udp i tethered my phone instead of getting home internet, during my last move i broke down and set up roadrunner.

I have an All-you-can-eat tariff average usage is about 15-20GB per month. But looking at the way you've worded your post I'm going to assume you're in the States? Not sure you guys have tariffs that generous over there.

yea, im in the us. i used to have unlimited data, but my note 2 is almost dead and with 3 kids and having moved a few weeks ago funds to flat buy outright just isnt there. i used to download torrents,tether, run netflix, ect daily. i would average 40-50 gigs a month, but that was with no home internet though.

I'm on a grandfathered AT&T "unlimited" data plan with my Note 2. I use just short of 5 GB per month on average. I get AT&T's throttle warning on the last day of the month many times.
I'm on wifi at work and at home, so data is really only used in the car.

I'm on ATT grandfather plan. I used about on avg 18-20gb a month, throttled after 5gb.
If I wasn't throttled I'd probably use double or so.
Probably the main reason I'm thinking of switching to Tmobile since they don't throttle on their highest plan. But I'm getting pos/neg responses about their services.
Anyone have it in Orange, CA area with advice?

I avg about 16gb on Tmobile unlimited. I have good coverage at home and at work. I live in GA.

Verizon unlimited, I use anywhere from 4-8 GB a month.

Sprint unlimited, between me and my wife.....around 15 - 17 a month. I have a friend though that has T - Mobile and uses somewhere between 30 - 60 GB a month. He also once cause they said there wasn't a limit used 3500 GB.

T-Mobile unlimited and use about 20 a month, also about another 3 of tethering. I had Sprint and could only use about 5-6 because the network was so slow on the Note 3.
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Verizon unlimited here about 12-15 gb average

RavenY2K3 said:
I have an All-you-can-eat tariff average usage is about 15-20GB per month. But looking at the way you've worded your post I'm going to assume you're in the States? Not sure you guys have tariffs that generous over there.
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Did you just take a shot at the good ol' U.S. of A?

Straight Talk 2.5gb and I don't think I've ever gone over. What are you guys doing with your phones that you need 10-20 gb of data a month?

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Did you just take a shot at the good ol' U.S. of A?
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Lmao, not in a derogatory manner I assure you lol.

T-Mobile Unlimited. Normally under 20GB a month. No house usage though as I have 50mb/20mb business connection at the house.

I am grandfathered into the ATT Unlimited. I grow angry every time I hit 5gb....the throttling is horrible. I use my phone for the GPS daily and I hit some high data marks. Its frustrating. I actually call and ***** about the throttling everytime I hit it. It makes me that mad. Unlimited, yes, but I need full speed for all data I use. Still happy with ATT, but that one think may make or break it after 10 yrs.

Verizon unlimited. I'm anywhere from 30 to 80 GB a month depending on how many ROMs I download. ☺

I have the sprint $60.00 unlimited everything, most I have used is 50GB. This month I have used 20GB.
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Those of you with double digit data use what do you use it for? I avg maybe 3-5gb a month and can't fathom how to use more. Just curious.
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I average about 200 GB per month. Mostly with Netflix and uploading to YouTube. Sprints coverage is one of the worst but I cant go without the unlimited data.

gpvlog said:
I average about 200 GB per month. Mostly with Netflix and uploading to YouTube. Sprints coverage is one of the worst but I cant go without the unlimited data.
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