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[Q] Camera Update Questions

I've seen a few comparisons on the Moto X, pre and post update online. I had one for a few weeks pre-update (Verizon...), and the camera was really the main reason I ended up ditching it. So I have a couple of questions for anybody that has the update:
I've seen a few post-update comparisons to the likes of the HTC One, and it still has a blown out look at times... but I wanted to hear from actual owners of the device before making a judgment call, since most people don't walk around comparing with 2 or 3 other devices
Did the software update also improve the videos?
What about usability - I know it said it was going to speed up auto-focus, navigation, etc., but did it really? Or is it not really noticeable?
Flash performance - improved at all? Or still slow and very blown out?
Thanks!
edit: reading things like this is what's making me hesitate to jump back on the bandwagon just yet

It still has some blowout issues but not nearly as bad as before. That is just an issue with the rgbc sensor. That's the same reason Sony stopped using similar tech in their phones.
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Little bit disappointing that the camera is still not quite up to par with the iPhone or S4. Might wait to see how the Nexus 5 compares.
I don't need absolute perfect pictures (it is a phone after all) but blowing out white pictures is a noticeable problem.

It looks good with well lit photos but dark photos still look awful. It's probably a better camera than the HTC One I'm coming from, the compromises are just different
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bpschoon said:
It looks good with well lit photos but dark photos still look awful. It's probably a better camera than the HTC One I'm coming from, the compromises are just different
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So you aren't getting the white fuzzy issues in daylight pictures?

My camera actually has no issues at all. Light or dark since the update
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mikeosu said:
So you aren't getting the white fuzzy issues in daylight pictures?
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No. The daylight photos look great. Really clear with excellent color accuracy.
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bpschoon said:
No. The daylight photos look great. Really clear with excellent color accuracy.
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Good to hear. kind of conflicting reports but the positive ones seem more common.

It seems to me they adjusted the contrast and saturation more than anything else, mostly for the positive. I think the sensors or optics they used just aren't up to par, in general, compared to the likes of the 5, S4, etc. Has anybody noticed any pickup in overall speed, both in general, and with the shutter?
The other thing I've noticed is this - these phones touting larger pixels all tend to blow out whites and struggle with balance from time to time. The HTC One does it, the X did (and still does to a point it appears, but not as bad now?), and I've been trying out an iPhone 5S for a bit now, and even it does it as well - but the processor plus software really helps keep it in check 95% of the time.

Does Your Moto X Ever Get Hot?

I'm thinking about getting a Moto X. I usually get a top-tier phone, but this one has really caught my eye.
I want a high-end device, but the "best" phones are all rather large. When I started looking at all the different "mini" versions, it turns out most of those phones are about the same as the Moto X. Nobody is really packaging their best phone with a smaller display; all the minis are pretty much 1.7GHz dual core units with 720-line displays. Compared to most of those the Moto X really fits my hand, and I like a lot of the features.
One thing I'm curious about is the operating temperature. My last three phones have all gotten pretty hot from time to time, but I read in a review that the Moto X draws a bit less current, and as a result it also runs a good bit cooler than some faster phones. This phone does seem to get a lot of life for a 2200mah battery.
Has anybody noticed any heat from this phone, or that it's particularly cool compared to other phones you've had? FWIW, I'd be using the Verizon version with 32GB.
Thanks in advance.

It gets warm when in my truck with GPS on, charging, and listening to podcasts... but no where near as warm as my Nexus.

Solutions Etcetera said:
It gets warm when in my truck with GPS on, charging, and listening to podcasts... but no where near as warm as my Nexus.
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Which Nexus model is that?

cpurick said:
Which Nexus model is that?
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Both 4 and 5.

No where near as the galaxy s4. The galaxy s4 gets so hot it burns lol.
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I must say the Moto X is the of the coolest higher end phone I've used. There is absolutely no issue with heat on mine, even with a few hours of video running.
Both Samsung and LG phones can quite hot for me. Naturally any phone will get hot with prolonged GPS use.

i mean it gets warm, but thats it. i wouldnt call it hot compared to my Gnex, which would literally be on the verge of burning my face off. only time my X gets warm is if im using it while its charging. other than that, no problems at all

cpurick said:
I'm thinking about getting a Moto X. I usually get a top-tier phone, but this one has really caught my eye.
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I guess it all depends on what you mean by top tier. If by top tier you mean a phone that works great as a phone, feels good in your hand, has a nice screen for its size, no lag and stock android plus, with the plus being very useful extras like touchless controls, motorola assist and active display, then the Moto X is top-tier. If by top-tier you mean has the best specs on paper but has lag due to its ridiculous OEM skin, drops calls and can't hold a 4G LTE signal well in weak signal areas, then by all means get the top-tier GNote3. I had it and returned it and got 2 Moto X's instead.
cpurick said:
One thing I'm curious about is the operating temperature.
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Never gets hot even when I WiFi tether my computer to it. My GNex used to get boiling hot when I did that.
cpurick said:
as a result it also runs a good bit cooler than some faster phones.
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What do you mean by faster? The CPU clock speed? Because I tested it side-by-side with the GNote3 and the Moto X beat the GNote3 in every data speed test I ran and opened apps and loaded web pages noticeably faster than the GNote3.

I don't think so. My note3 consistently pulls faster data TMob vs TMob on speed test.
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@rbiter said:
I don't think so. My note3 consistently pulls faster data TMob vs TMob on speed test.
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I am on Verizon. The Moto X and the GNote3 and even my GNex all do well in strong signal areas. Where the signal is weak, the Moto X outperforms them all.

Cozume said:
I am on Verizon. The Moto X and the GNote3 and even my GNex all do well in strong signal areas. Where the signal is weak, the Moto X outperforms them all.
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Hmmm... Probably. Didn't get to test x at work on day off. I switched to T-Mobile. My note has been pulling faster on TMob vs x on atnt. Note is still pulling down faster at apartment. At work, that will probably be true, x pulling down faster on a weaker signal. My refill runs out today on my note and might be awhile before I get to test again.
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Moto X is getting hot
I have recently bought Moto X mobile, it is getting heat wen it is in charging, When i use camera, when i play games and wen i use some long time(not too long)...did anyone find this same issue in ur Moto X.???
Pls let me know..!!!

rranjith said:
I have recently bought Moto X mobile, it is getting heat wen it is in charging, When i use camera, when i play games and wen i use some long time(not too long)...did anyone find this same issue in ur Moto X.???
Pls let me know..!!!
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I'm too facing that issue. but that doesn't impact the usage or performance of x. even many of the youtube users checked that it is heating up little but not as xperia z2
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This morning i woke up and my x was at 125° or 52c not sure if I have an issue or not but it seems like the general opinion is that it runs cool.
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To me it seems that the front and back of my TMo Developer Edition is too hot. Just got an app to meaure the temp and its 39C without any serious load (facebook or just web browsing).
Anyone else has measurements to compare?

My dev edition gets hot with Maps navigation such that Maps just dies. If I charge it when using navigation, Maps dies quickly. Else it lasts for a while longer before dying. My note 3 and note 4 can go on and on with navigation even being charged at the same time.

That's nothing to worry about. If it actually overheats, it will shut down before damage is done. ?

Camera and audio quality

Hello everybody,
I'm going to buy a Moto X because I really like it, but I noticed that it has two problems.
1. The camera quality is good (if it could be improved, it'll be better), but in low light the video has a bad focus but above all a low frame rate.
2. The audio recorded has a nice quality; however, with loud volumes like concert or wind, it has distorsion.
Are these problems solvable in some ways or is the Moto X hardware limitated?
Thanks. Bye!

I guess we'll have to live with this camera. (Indoor mode is not great).
And audio I'm not sure!
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Okay; I'm waiting for other replies before deciding to buy a Nokia Lumia...

Lumia? It's just a camera with calling feature
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I know, but I need a good camera with good audio quality.
Moto X isn't bad at all, but I can't buy it if I couldn't solve that problems!

Andrea45 said:
Hello everybody,
I'm going to buy a Moto X because I really like it, but I noticed that it has two problems.
1. The camera quality is good (if it could be improved, it'll be better), but in low light the video has a bad focus but above all a low frame rate.
2. The audio recorded has a nice quality; however, with loud volumes like concert or wind, it has distorsion.
Are these problems solvable in some ways or is the Moto X hardware limitated?
Thanks. Bye!
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Are you in a hurry to buy a phone? If not, I'd suggest waiting it out until the X+1 comes out later this summer/early fall. From what I've read, it sounds like a beast of a phone. If it lives up to the hype, I'll be getting one when my contract expires in November. Otherwise, you really can't go wrong with the usability of the X. The camera could use improving, but don't let that sway you from buying this device. I had my reservations about it as well when I first got mine, but I have no regrets.

Yes, I need a phone now!
If Moto X's video with low light and audio recording at a concert or disco could be improved, I'll buy it surely.

most def get the moto x u won't be disappointed the camera isn't that bad n u can install different camera apps to adjust setting also I find the audio on this phone to be great compared to other android other than HTC one'
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Andrea45 said:
Yes, I need a phone now!
If Moto X's video with low light and audio recording at a concert or disco could be improved, I'll buy it surely.
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It sounds to me like you need a new camera more so than a new phone... Lol.

Uhm... yeah... plus or minus... lol
But I use phone for call, browse, music and camera... Call, browse and music are common in all smartphones, camera not. I like Moto X camera, but it has the two issues I wrote, so I'd like to know if they are hardware limits or software solvable limits.

Andrea45 said:
Uhm... yeah... plus or minus... lol
But I use phone for call, browse, music and camera... Call, browse and music are common in all smartphones, camera not. I like Moto X camera, but it has the two issues I wrote, so I'd like to know if they are hardware limits or software solvable limits.
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Nah I totally hear ya I was just picking on you. Not everyone carries around a DSLR for the hell of it, most people just have their phone. With the advancements Moto has made with the camera software, I honestly think the hardware is in the right place. From what I understand 4.4.4 is supposed to bring even better camera improvements over 4.4.2. Just pull the trigger and get one!

Yeah, but I tried a Moto X; in disco the audio is crappy (so at a concert I think it'll be even worse), and if there isn't a lot of light, the frame rate slows (for example, at night in a road or in a house with low lights).
4.4.4 solves this problems? If not, are they solvable with mod, tweaks, etc.?

Andrea45 said:
Yeah, but I tried a Moto X; in disco the audio is crappy (so at a concert I think it'll be even worse), and if there isn't a lot of light, the frame rate slows (for example, at night in a road or in a house with low lights).
4.4.4 solves this problems? If not, are they solvable with mod, tweaks, etc.?
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No mod or tweaks can help it. If camera is a priority for you then you might wanna stay away from Moto X. Also 4.4.4 might bring some colour accuracy, but there will not be any significant changes. Go for XZ1C, again, if camera is the priority. The main problem with X's camera is it's inconsistency, you need to depend on your luck with it. Also there is slight purple hazing on low light shots, the sensor is far from being good, along with the optics.

Then buy a nice camera. Phones are phones with cheap cameras thrown in for kicks and giggles. ?

KJ said:
Then buy a nice camera. Phones are phones with cheap cameras thrown in for kicks and giggles. ?
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Is this meant for me?

devilsdouble said:
Is this meant for me?
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Nope. Anyone.
Every phone "camera" is terrible compared to even my $99 Kodak camera. Which is tiny and quite easy to carry around....especially if I know I'm gonna want to take pics where I'm going.
Phones are nice for those "crap...I don't have my camera" moments....but they are just never going to replace an actual camera...not if you want consistently decent pics. Yet people seem to expect phones to make "better" cameras all the time. Or are disappointed by the "cameras" their new phone has. Phone cameras will never be great.....not when the "real estate" for camera hardware is miniscule compared to an actual camera.
Just my 2 cents.
Opinions will vary, and to each their own. ?
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BTW....if phone cameras were sold separately... With no phone, they'd be worth about $25. That should put the phone camera quality discussions in perspective.

Any news or other comments? Are there some camera or audio recording improvements for this phone?
Are camera's problems like low frame-rate and bad focus in low light and audio distorsion with high volume like concerts solvable in some way?

what are things you wish it had?

I find myself living the sensors a lot. Waving over to check the screen and then waving over thinking it will close. Has any one else done this besides me? Do you think it might be a battery saver?

I wish it had the Moto X body with the Droid Turbo hardware and a mSD slot or at least the 64 GB option from the Nexus 6. Motorola just about build the perfect phone this year, but split it among 3 models.

yea
I wish it had a micro SD slot also. What about 5 inch. Display for one handed use? What about software they could update or install?

1) Better camera. One that was up to par with other flagships.
2) Dual speakers. Guess they saved that for the Nexus 6. What a tease.
3) Wireless charging.
4) Could do with a bigger battery, but at the same time, I understand the importance of form factor for a 5.2" screen.
That's about it, I guess. I would've been willing to pay $650 for these additional things.
Currently, the camera is the #1 thing holding me back from the Moto X. The other missing things I can live with.

Wireless charging, maybe... The battery is a non-issue for me as this little battery gets as much SOT as my G3 did with a much larger battery. I don't care about the camera and this speaker is way louder than my previous phones, so I can't complain there either. Oh, maybe an IR blaster for the TV might be nice... But that's it, and even then they're not huge deals for me. This thing is basically perfect for my needs.

iPhone 6's camera & wireless charging.
Then I'd be in heaven :angel:
32Gb is plenty for me, the battery gets me through the day just fine and dual speakers (while a nice addition) are not that important for a phone IMO, as long as a single speaker is loud & clear enough (which it is in this case)

S805 and better battery life. I would sell my iPhone 6 immediately for that.
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Note10.1Dude said:
I wish it had the Moto X body with the Droid Turbo hardware and a mSD slot or at least the 64 GB option from the Nexus 6. Motorola just about build the perfect phone this year, but split it among 3 models.
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+1 this. This is the biggest gripe I have right now. The Droid Turbo is ugly and it's capacitive buttons are were outdated 2 years ago, the Nexus 6 is too big, and the Moto X still isn't up to flagship status. That combined with the locked bootloaders of Verizon just make me angry. Droid Turbo hardware in a Moto X case and screen with a mSD slot for expandable storage and an unlockable bootloader? Count me in for one even if it were $800.

1: Unlockable bootloader (VZW)
2: Dual front facing speakers
3: Micro SD slot
4: Better camera with OIS
5: Wireless charging

From what I can tell the camera issue is software related not hardware. I read on a review that a guy used a different camera app from the market and the results were much better. I can't find the article ATM though.

RyanTX said:
From what I can tell the camera issue is software related not hardware. I read on a review that a guy used a different camera app from the market and the results were much better. I can't find the article ATM though.
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http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-5-lollipop-camera-api-samples-540858/
I am really believing that camera quality is going to be going up a lot because of the APIs
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RyanTX said:
From what I can tell the camera issue is software related not hardware. I read on a review that a guy used a different camera app from the market and the results were much better. I can't find the article ATM though.
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Even Google camera has much better results. Three shots I took over the last few days came out great - just some random pics. I think the Moto X camera app needs some fixing.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9h1urz7c407dzct/2014-10-17 18.55.01.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vxti5yfijz3rkud/2014-10-18 09.13.42.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pces9safhv4ikrl/2014-10-20 10.59.23.jpg?dl=0
Now if I could configure the twist motion to open Google camera...

RyanTX said:
From what I can tell the camera issue is software related not hardware. I read on a review that a guy used a different camera app from the market and the results were much better. I can't find the article ATM though.
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http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-5-lollipop-camera-api-samples-540858/
I am really believing that camera quality is going to be going up a lot because of the APIs
sent from my Moto X (2014)
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Yup I think I read that it has the same actual camera module as some of the slightly older Samsungs? S3 S4 or whatever. They took good pictures so its definitely software.

Bigger battery and SD card slot. That'd take it into superphone territory.

Sdobron said:
Now if I could configure the twist motion to open Google camera...
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Easy! Install Xposed, then install Twisty Switch module.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/themes-apps/xposed-twisty-switch-customize-moto-xs-t2722112

I wish it had better reception on non-3G/4G bands- the standard GSM radio performance is pretty terrible on mine!

I'll add one more here. A slightly brighter screen for outside. While it's not terrible, it's not great either.

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Easy! Install Xposed, then install Twisty Switch module.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/themes-apps/xposed-twisty-switch-customize-moto-xs-t2722112
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For those of us on VZW and without root, this isn't easy.
Things we need -
1. Root.
2. See above.

onthecouchagain said:
1) Better camera. One that was up to par with other flagships.
2) Dual speakers. Guess they saved that for the Nexus 6. What a tease.
3) Wireless charging.
4) Could do with a bigger battery, but at the same time, I understand the importance of form factor for a 5.2" screen.
That's about it, I guess. I would've been willing to pay $650 for these additional things.
Currently, the camera is the #1 thing holding me back from the Moto X. The other missing things I can live with.
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Agree with all the points. I could actually live with the current battery, I still manage 4hours screen on time with my use. I'm tempted for the Nexus 6, but the size put it out of the equation for me. I'm not really fond of the Droid Turbo design.

yes
It would be a flagship phone if it had:
Bigger battery
Expandable SD slot
Dual speakers
I like the size of the phone is classified under smartphone and not tablet (coming front note 4) so it fits better in the hand but still kind wish it was around 5 inches for a better one hand use. Would have been nice to have a headset made just for the phone Just saying...
Not to much to complain about though i love that it's software based so it gets updates faster.

Sony Xperia X Performance on the T-Mobile Network setup question

Hello,
I'd like to buy the X Performance when it comes out and use it on my current T-Mobile network. Since I'll be buying the phone unlocked, I understand I will need to input certain "setup" info for the phone to work properly. I actually know how to enter in everything and also WHAT to enter too.......... the APN info, Voicemail, etc.
What I DON'T know how to do is enter in the following fields and where to enter them in too:
Short Message Service (SMS)
SMS Email: [email protected]
Email center: 500
Where do I go to enter those on a Sony phone?? Or, will my T-Mobile SIM card just automatically enter these in for me? Please explain.
Thank You!!

RockStar2005 said:
Hello,
I'd like to buy the X Performance when it comes out and use it on my current T-Mobile network. Since I'll be buying the phone unlocked, I understand I will need to input certain "setup" info for the phone to work properly. I actually know how to enter in everything and also WHAT to enter too.......... the APN info, Voicemail, etc.
What I DON'T know how to do is enter in the following fields and where to enter them in too:
Short Message Service (SMS)
SMS Email: [email protected]
Email center: 500
Where do I go to enter those on a Sony phone?? Or, will my T-Mobile SIM card just automatically enter these in for me? Please explain.
Thank You!!
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Seems like a very premature question. You might have to wait a few months for the phone to be released to get this answer. Can I have your Galaxy S7 when you get the XP?

PuffDaddy_d said:
Seems like a very premature question. You might have to wait a few months for the phone to be released to get this answer. Can I have your Galaxy S7 when you get the XP?
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lol What up Puff?
Well I actually got the answer I believe on the T-Mobile forum site. Someone there said they never had to that stuff and they have an unlocked phone too. I think I may have to do the APN part, but I have all that info now anyway. So it should be ok.
Yeah.......... it was just announced TODAY that the X Performance is being released GLOBALLY (including U.S. I believe) the FIRST week of July. F M L. lol
Xperia X range release dates in Europe
Xperia X – Late May 2016 (week commencing 23 May)
Xperia XA – Late June 2016 (week commencing 20 June)
Xperia X Performance – Early July 2016 (week commencing 4 July)
Haha have? No. But I WILL be selling it on eBay. lol What sucks is by then it will be worth a little less so that's less money I'll have to put towards the X Performance. Really p's me off that they're taking THIS long to release it when it was announced back in FEB. The S7 is great but there a few things that I don't like about it that are an issue for me. If you want to know more, let me know.
I don't get why they'd release it last too? It's the best of the 3 phones, so why release it LAST? Especially with the Z series now being history. Sony..........makers of great phones, employers of the world's biggest ****-tards for marketing and sales. No TV ads, no........but let's put our generic/lightweight ads on the internet only. Umm...... that's NOT how it works. The only ppl who will see those ads are the ones who are ACTIVELY seeking Sony phones. You need to get the name out there. Get some big celebrities like Clooney or Lawrence to do your ads, and make them COOL not idiotic like that new LG G5 one with Jason Statham. lol Until then, they could AT LEAST put THIS sweet ad on American TV. I think it trumps all their "usual" ads on YouTube by miles. Love the music on it too. Actually "sells" the Predictive Hybrid Autofocus rather well too without having to try so hard.

RockStar2005 said:
lol What up Puff?
Well I actually got the answer I believe on the T-Mobile forum site. Someone there said they never had to that stuff and they have an unlocked phone too. I think I may have to do the APN part, but I have all that info now anyway. So it should be ok.
Yeah.......... it was just announced TODAY that the X Performance is being released GLOBALLY (including U.S. I believe) the FIRST week of July. F M L. lol
Xperia X range release dates in Europe
Xperia X – Late May 2016 (week commencing 23 May)
Xperia XA – Late June 2016 (week commencing 20 June)
Xperia X Performance – Early July 2016 (week commencing 4 July)
Haha have? No. But I WILL be selling it on eBay. lol What sucks is by then it will be worth a little less so that's less money I'll have to put towards the X Performance. Really p's me off that they're taking THIS long to release it when it was announced back in FEB. The S7 is great but there a few things that I don't like about it that are an issue for me. If you want to know more, let me know.
I don't get why they'd release it last too? It's the best of the 3 phones, so why release it LAST? Especially with the Z series now being history. Sony..........makers of great phones, employers of the world's biggest ****-tards for marketing and sales. No TV ads, no........but let's put our generic/lightweight ads on the internet only. Umm...... that's NOT how it works. The only ppl who will see those ads are the ones who are ACTIVELY seeking Sony phones. You need to get the name out there. Get some big celebrities like Clooney or Lawrence to do your ads, and make them COOL not idiotic like that new LG G5 one with Jason Statham. lol Until then, they could AT LEAST put THIS sweet ad on American TV. I think it trumps all their "usual" ads on YouTube by miles. Love the music on it too. Actually "sells" the Predictive Hybrid Autofocus rather well too without having to try so hard.
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If you don't mind, shoot me a quick list if the things you don't like about the S7. It seems like the almost perfect device on paper, but I'd like to know what a former compact user thinks.
Sent from the only flagship device that can fit in my hand... Sony Experia Z3 Compact

PuffDaddy_d said:
If you don't mind, shoot me a quick list if the things you don't like about the S7. It seems like the almost perfect device on paper, but I'd like to know what a former compact user thinks.
Sent from the only flagship device that can fit in my hand... Sony Experia Z3 Compact
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Puff,
1) Screen Brightness: Under heavy sunlight, the screen brightness on the S7 is f'ign awful. Squint (your eyes) City. lol My Z3's screen brightness S*IT on the S7's.
2) Fast But Not Fast lol: Touchwiz is not that great. Yeah the S7 is very fast for downloads, but I compared the speed of jumping around from app to app on the homescreen vs. doing the same thing on my parents' Xperia Z1s (released January 2014), and THEIR phone was loading things up faster. For real. lol That lag is all Touchwiz. Plus although the Settings Menu is better than before, I still find it more confusing to navigate through than Sony's or HTC's are.
3) Audio Issues (and I'm an Audiophile......Lite lol): First off, the speaker. It's F'ING GOD AWFUL!!! Seriously. There's only one speaker, and it's facing down. Drum sounds render on it like the sound of someone shooting a laser gun. lol Then there's the headphone issue. Using the 3.5mm port is fine, but I use an "in-between" portable amp/DAC device which hooks up to my smartphone and headphones via Micro USB. While listening to music this way, at least once every few minutes (sometimes more), I will hear a hiccup or skip. I pay GOOD money for my Hi-Res music, and the S7 is taking the enjoyment away from me everyday I'm STUCK with it until the XP comes out (a nice big F U to Sony Mobile's execs for deciding to release the FLAGSHIP X phone LAST)! Oh, and using that same setup to watch YouTube videos? Forget it. Hiccup? Try "mad stutter" to the point where it's not even worth it. This makes the screen brightness issue not seem so bad. lol
4) Home Button: This might be more a preference thing, but I've come to realize I DO NOT LIKE physical home buttons. I'd found an app that makes the physical home button act like a virtual one, but it only seems to work 60-70% of the time. So since it's not 100%, this for me becomes yet another issue I have with this phone.
That's pretty much everything I guess. Samsung Pay is kinda cool, the camera is fantastic, wireless charging is kinda kewl too, looks pretty premium too (cuz they finally did what Sony's been doing FOR YEARS and stopped making plastic-bodies phones lol), but I know the XP's camera will be great, and wireless charging is no big deal to me at all (the free one I got from Samsung is not even QC 2.0). They say Samsung may make Samsung Pay available to other phones, so if that happens, I'll probably get it again on Sony, but if not, I won't lose any sleep either. But at the stores, ppl do seem interested in watching me use it. lol It BY FAR is the best mobile pay method there is. It works every time., and you can set it up to be activated via fingerprint which saves you a couple seconds of not having to enter in your passcode.
Hope that helps!

I'm surprised to hear you say the screen doesn't get bright enough. All of the phone comparisons I've seen on YouTube indicate that it's the brightest of the major manufacturers.
I need a loud speaker though because I like showing YouTube videos to my wife and listening to music in the shower. It needs to overcome background noise fairly well.
How does it fit in your hand though? Comfortable one hand operation is key for me.
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PuffDaddy_d said:
I'm surprised to hear you say the screen doesn't get bright enough. All of the phone comparisons I've seen on YouTube indicate that it's the brightest of the major manufacturers.
I need a loud speaker though because I like showing YouTube videos to my wife and listening to music in the shower. It needs to overcome background noise fairly well.
How does it fit in your hand though? Comfortable one hand operation is key for me.
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Puff,
It might come as a surprise, but it's the truth. Under heavy sunlight, I can barely see my screen. At 100% brightness, my S7 is maybe only 75-80% as bright as my Z3 was. And judging by this video comparison of the Z5 vs. the X (X & XP have the same screen I believe), the XP should be PLENTY bright. (Watch it all if you like, but in particular, make sure you check out 3:35 - 4:25).
The S7's speaker IS loud....... so you don't have to worry about that. It just doesn't sound very good is all. For showing your wife YouTube videos, the XP would be the clear winner there. STEREO front-facing speakers that are also very clear................vs. a downward facing speaker that isn't. But again, that's just my opinion. I felt the Z3's speakers were plenty loud (like the M8's), so I don't see it being a problem. Plus the XP like the S7 will be waterproof.
The S7 fits pretty well in my hand. I can't complain there. The S7 Edge that I had briefly before it was too big plus there's no way to deactivate the edge screens, so I'd constantly be accidentally starting up apps or hitting virtual buttons on screen while watching videos.
Let me know if you have any more questions, and what you think of that video too.

I don't think the X is going to support volte or evs. Sony don't care about USA
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I don't think the X is going to support volte or evs. Sony don't care about USA
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I don't know if it's that they don't care, it's just that those features (regardless of which brand phone it is) are carrier-specific, not phone-specific. I just confirmed with a T-Mobile supervisor that information, so unfortunately it sounds like if I get the XP I won't get HD Voice or VoLTE. Sux but oh well. I love the phone too much to give that stuff up. If I get it and am unhappy with it, then I'll just get the T-Mobile HTC 10 instead. A very close 2nd IMO. But the XP has a better camera, so since I don't make many calls, the XP still sounds better.

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I don't think the X is going to support volte or evs. Sony don't care about USA
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km8j,
Some GOOD news..........despite my discovery that the X series will not have VoLTE, I found out it's really not an issue at all. Having VoLTE used to mean you could browse and connect to the internet WHILE ON a call. Before you couldn't do both. But I just tested out an Xperia Z1s which does NOT have VoLTE on it, and tried to browse the net and use apps like GMail app while on a call...... and apparently now you CAN do both at the same time even w/o having VoLTE!! So really, it's not a big deal at all!
VoLTE helps to connect your calls faster too, but if I have to wait a few more seconds, so be it.

RockStar2005 said:
km8j,
Some GOOD news..........despite my discovery that the X series will not have VoLTE, I found out it's really not an issue at all. Having VoLTE used to mean you could browse and connect to the internet WHILE ON a call. Before you couldn't do both. But I just tested out an Xperia Z1s which does NOT have VoLTE on it, and tried to browse the net and use apps like GMail app while on a call...... and apparently now you CAN do both at the same time even w/o having VoLTE!! So really, it's not a big deal at all!
VoLTE helps to connect your calls faster too, but if I have to wait a few more seconds, so be it.
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This is not factually accurate. For years, GSM has been able to handle simultaneous voice and data. The issue is, without VoLTE, when you make a call and are on LTE, the data signal falls back to HSPA, which is far slower and less reliable. So yes you can do data at the same time but not as fast. Also, b12 not being supported means not as good signal in areas where that is deployed. VoLTE offers shorter call connect times, yes but also higher quality audio, more reliability and more.

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This is not factually accurate. For years, GSM has been able to handle simultaneous voice and data. The issue is, without VoLTE, when you make a call and are on LTE, the data signal falls back to HSPA, which is far slower and less reliable. So yes you can do data at the same time but not as fast. Also, b12 not being supported means not as good signal in areas where that is deployed. VoLTE offers shorter call connect times, yes but also higher quality audio, more reliability and more.
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Oh geez, you're RIGHT km8j!! lol I just realized while reading your post that yeah VoLTE DOES let you stay in 4G LTE while on a call. Thanks. lol Yeah not as fast.
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Ok yeah....... better quality calls too. Oh well. lol I found out now that Verizon and Sprint just got that recently, so that's prob why I remembered not being able to do both at the same time. I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile in Feb of 2014. When I had Verizon, they did not yet have that option, only AT&T and T-Mobile did. So that affected my statements made.

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Oh geez, you're RIGHT km8j!! lol I just realized while reading your post that yeah VoLTE DOES let you stay in 4G LTE while on a call. Thanks. lol Yeah not as fast.
b12??
Ok yeah....... better quality calls too. Oh well. lol I found out now that Verizon and Sprint just got that recently, so that's prob why I remembered not being able to do both at the same time. I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile in Feb of 2014. When I had Verizon, they did not yet have that option, only AT&T and T-Mobile did. So that affected my statements made.
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Sony once again has no band 12? So service with t mobile isn't 100% supported and may see signal drop in areas where t mobile branded phones will still have signal.
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Sony once again has no band 12? So service with t mobile isn't 100% supported and may see signal drop in areas where t mobile branded phones will still have signal.
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What? That's not true. Sony most certainly has Band 12/700 MHz service for the XP, and T-Mobile does offer it it as well.

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What? That's not true. Sony most certainly has Band 12/700 MHz service for the XP, and T-Mobile does offer it it as well.
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T mobile is band 12 1700 or 2100 I thought. They barely use the 700
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T mobile is band 12 1700 or 2100 I thought. They barely use the 700
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No brotha........ they might have 1700 too, but I know FOR SURE they have Band 12/700 MHz cuz I've been following that s*it for a while now. Even on that T-Mo map link I just sent you it says "Officially announced markets where 700 MHz band 12 network has been deployed have a circled 12 placed on them."
So don't worry about that. lol As long as you live in an area on the map on that page that has it now, you'll have it with the XP too, if you were to get it I mean.

No. Just because the hardware supports it, doesn't mean it will work. T-Mobile has to certify it. Sony won't go through that. They don't care
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No. Just because the hardware supports it, doesn't mean it will work. T-Mobile has to certify it. Sony won't go through that. They don't care
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As above the ideal way to use the xperia p is pretty much on Att. And even then you're lacking features. Is there anything in the near future standardizing LTE bands?
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No. Just because the hardware supports it, doesn't mean it will work. T-Mobile has to certify it. Sony won't go through that. They don't care
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I don't understand. If the network has it, and the phone supports, why wouldn't it work?? This isn't VoLTE, this is something the phone actually has. So according to you, the 2G and 3G networks wouldn't work then b/c Sony didn't have them certified through T-Mobile either...which means you wouldn't even be able to make calls on it.
Not only does this site say that both the phone and T-Mobile match up with regards to Band 12, even GSM Arena's specs sheet for the XP states it has Band 12. So I have a hard time understanding how it won't work.

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As above the ideal way to use the xperia p is pretty much on Att. And even then you're lacking features. Is there anything in the near future standardizing LTE bands?
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MGS,
Well AT&T is fine too as they (like T-Mobile) are also a GSM-based network carrier. Both are equally compatible with the XP per that site I linked you earlier.
I would hope that in the NEAR future all phone makers make HD Voice & VoLTE standard. My guess as to why that hasn't happened yet is that it would cost more money and the phone makers know that not all markets actually have these options yet. But they should just include them anyway as that is changing everyday.