Is any one worried about development? - X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey, everyone,
This is my first device in a while that isn't a Nexus (the rumors point to the next Nexus being 5.9" - Nope. Nope, so hard).
Well, anyway, I love this device, but I'm worried about development. Granted, I'm used to seeing development efforts pop-up for the device on the day of launch (yay, Nexus)... But it has been a little bit.
What say, you? Do you all think we'll have a good development community? Still within that return period... Talk me off the ledge, guys.
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I'm waiting for the new Moto X to come to my door step. I have the first edition Moto X what's an unlocked bootloader. At first I was all kinds of excited to flash different roms. Time after time I continue to go back to stock running xposed modules. Stock-based features of the Moto X are just too darn useful. I plan on only running a few exposed modules on my pure edition

No, because I'm not rooting the phone. I bought this phone primarily because it offer almost all I need without rooting.

Just like most people that used the moto x, I mostly relied on xposed settings just to tweak around a few settings. Motorola's software is basically stock android with a few very useful features added. I used to flash roms ALL the time when I had my GS4, but I no longer have to do that with the moto x.

matt99017d said:
I'm waiting for the new Moto X to come to my door step. I have the first edition Moto X what's an unlocked bootloader. At first I was all kinds of excited to flash different roms. Time after time I continue to go back to stock running xposed modules. Stock-based features of the Moto X are just too darn useful. I plan on only running a few exposed modules on my pure edition
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Interesting. Yeah, I think its features are really useful, as well. I just figured that since almost all of the features have been moved to an app, it wouldn't be too difficult to actually get them on a custom rom. But, yeah, all the features I want are really minor and probably could be added using xposed. Good point, I'll look into some of them.
eksasol said:
No, because I'm not rooting the phone. I bought this phone primarily because it offer almost all I need without rooting.
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The Nexus was almost perfect for me. I just found a ROM that was a little more suitable, set it up, and was able to stick to it for my duration with the phone. I would occasionally update to a later version... but I never really needed to. I just picked a good ROM, and stuck with it. I was hoping to do the same here.
TBayTom said:
Just like most people that used the moto x, I mostly relied on xposed settings just to tweak around a few settings. Motorola's software is basically stock android with a few very useful features added. I used to flash roms ALL the time when I had my GS4, but I no longer have to do that with the moto x.
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Like I mentioned earlier - excellent point. On my GS3 and M7, I always flashed ROMs. I calmed down a bit with the Nexus, though. Hahaha
Looks like I'll be looking into Xposed. That doesn't mean I won't make some of my own modifications, though....
Thanks for the responses, guys!

eksasol said:
No, because I'm not rooting the phone. I bought this phone primarily because it offer almost all I need without rooting.
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Ditto
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The only thing I miss, is custom toggles. I didn't know stock android don't actually have toggles at all, they are more like shortcuts to the settings menu. It's more than annoying. And needing an app for flashlight sucks. If I could get that, would be all the mods I need.

neh4pres said:
The only thing I miss, is custom toggles. I didn't know stock android don't actually have toggles at all, they are more like shortcuts to the settings menu. It's more than annoying. And needing an app for flashlight sucks. If I could get that, would be all the mods I need.
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Xposed settings allow for this. Download the GravityBox module within the settings. This allows you to customize almost every aspect of the phone, including all toggles. I set up my phone to have the torch flashlight as a toggle, EXTREMELY handy when you need it really quick.

Don't need development.
For those unrooted, see my no root survival page.
Notification Toggles is very good.

This is the first phone I've owned that I don't miss root at all. It has everything I need stock. Of course I would love to have root for gravity box alone but I don't miss it as much as I thought I would.

TBayTom said:
Xposed settings allow for this. Download the GravityBox module within the settings. This allows you to customize almost every aspect of the phone, including all toggles. I set up my phone to have the torch flashlight as a toggle, EXTREMELY handy when you need it really quick.
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Really? Without root?
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Ah so still need root
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aviwdoowks said:
Don't need development.
For those unrooted, see my no root survival page.
Notification Toggles is very good.
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Can you link it

neh4pres said:
Really? Without root?
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Ah so still need root
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Can you link it
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My button! Yon Tapatalk? Damn Tapatalk!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51600873&postcount=2

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NFC Mods?

Is it possible to use NFC with the screen off using stock 4.4.2?? I can't find anything about it.
I would have thought so as it's an antenna based system, it should be active as long as it's turned on, unless it's powered down in a sleep mode whilst screen is off.
To me that would make it more of a hassle using your phone to use it rather than just swipe it past
Bashing away at my HTC Desire C
xdudeman said:
Is it possible to use NFC with the screen off using stock 4.4.2?? I can't find anything about it.
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No. NFC active only when the screen is; Android security "feature".
Solutions Etcetera said:
No. NFC active only when the screen is; Android security "feature".
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This is why the word MOD was mentioned. It's obvious it's a security "feature" by default.
He's asking about a MOD to make this happen. Like the NFC LockScreenOff Enabler Xposed Module that works on great on most AOSP ROMs. Including the Moto X. It just doesn't work on stock. I would also love to know how to make this mod for Stock Moto X 4.4.2.
I wonder if this is the reason why the Moto Skip doesn't work as well when the Moto X screen is off, the sensitivity seems much weaker when the screen is off compared to on.
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This is why the word MOD was mentioned...
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"Stock" was also mentioned. Mod ≠ Stock.
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eksasol said:
I wonder if this is the reason why the Moto Skip doesn't work as well when the Moto X screen is off, the sensitivity seems much weaker when the screen is off compared to on.
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Two things are going on with a Skip when the screen is off. First, a magnet in the skip wakes the device. Then the NFC element in it can be read.
eksasol said:
I wonder if this is the reason why the Moto Skip doesn't work as well when the Moto X screen is off, the sensitivity seems much weaker when the screen is off compared to on.
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This is because the NFC doesn't poll when the screen is off. Which is why they make mods like NFC LockScreenOff Enabler
Unfortunately it doesn't work on Stock 4.4.2 ROMs.
So I am looking for someone who has modded the smali code to poll NFC with the screen off with the NFC.apk
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"Stock" was also mentioned. Mod ≠ Stock.
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Two things are going on with a Skip when the screen is off. First, a magnet in the skip wakes the device. Then the NFC element in it can be read.
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You couldn't be more wrong dude. Stock is any STOCK Motorola ROM. Modded or not it's still a STOCK ROM. If it's AOSP or anything other than Motorola's manufactured ROM. It's NOT STOCK. Please troll elsewhere.
justforyou101 said:
You couldn't be more wrong dude. Stock is any STOCK Motorola ROM. Modded or not it's still a STOCK ROM. If it's AOSP or anything other than Motorola's manufactured ROM. It's NOT STOCK. Please troll elsewhere.
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Personally, I think you're wrong. Stock implies unmodified. Now, if they were stock and rooted, that would be a different story.
In any case, OP, unless you o it yourself, you probably will not get a way to use NFC with the screen off, especially if you have a non-DE phone.
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imnuts said:
Personally, I think you're wrong. Stock implies unmodified. Now, if they were stock and rooted, that would be a different story.
In any case, OP, unless you o it yourself, you probably will not get a way to use NFC with the screen off, especially if you have a non-DE phone.
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Personally you're wrong. Sorry.
Anyone know of any mods to make this work? I've been looking for sometime but haven't found anything.
kcuffel said:
Personally you're wrong. Sorry.
Anyone know of any mods to make this work? I've been looking for sometime but haven't found anything.
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@imnuts is a Recognized Developer. As a new member you could show some respect. This is a good example of why so many developers stopped helping here.
How moto skip work when when screen is off?
It is just a magnet + nfc tag making it power on when near...
Is it posible to use magnet with other task beside unlocking phone with screen off?

Will custom roms expand the Edge functionality?

Am going to buy an s6. If you guys think custom roms will really expand the edges' capabilities I will go with that. But if you guys honestly don't think there is much use for it, or hacking it will be easy/intuitive then I'll just opt for regular s6. Any input/opinions would be greatly appreciated.
stackz07 said:
Am going to buy an s6. If you guys think custom roms will really expand the edges' capabilities I will go with that. But if you guys honestly don't think there is much use for it, or hacking it will be easy/intuitive then I'll just opt for regular s6. Any input/opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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I would assume the toughest part of any of that will actually be getting root, etc on the Verizon version.
All phones are tough to get root on. You know they'll do it.
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I would assume the toughest part of any of that will actually be getting root, etc on the Verizon version.
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I was watching a rooting video from zedomax's channel in YouTube, and he certainly mentioned about rooting Verizon version. I think there's already a way out there.
eecho said:
I was watching a rooting video from zedomax's channel in YouTube, and he certainly mentioned about rooting Verizon version. I think there's already a way out there.
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There is but it may not work on Verizon.
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stackz07 said:
All phones are tough to get root on. You know they'll do it.
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Like the Verizon Note 4?
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There is but it may not work on Verizon.
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Like the Verizon Note 4?
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Is the note 4 still not rooted? Sorry, I made a HUGE mistake switching from a s4 to a ip6. Now I'm looking to switch back. I got the iphone 6 because my s4 had loki , but then my insurance replacement did not have that exploit available. So to say the least I am not up to speed on roots but I didn't know there were still phones out that in the wild unrooted.
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Is the note 4 still not rooted? Sorry, I made a HUGE mistake switching from a s4 to a ip6. Now I'm looking to switch back. I got the iphone 6 because my s4 had loki , but then my insurance replacement did not have that exploit available. So to say the least I am not up to speed on roots but I didn't know there were still phones out that in the wild unrooted.
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I don't believe it has root...I checked the bounty thread and it looked pretty active still. I'm jumping from the M8 so I'm not 100% sure on Samsung devices but I'm fairly certain they're really locked down on Verizon. I guess I'm just trying to not get my hopes up in case it doesn't happen with the VZW S6 but I've definitely got my fingers crossed!
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There is but it may not work on Verizon.
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Like the Verizon Note 4?
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I think the edge will be a completely different beast. With all the attention it's getting, I think a lot people will be getting this device which only increases the odds of getting root. Just my opinion though.
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There is but it may not work on Verizon.
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Like the Verizon Note 4?
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mamba94 said:
I think the edge will be a completely different beast. With all the attention it's getting, I think a lot people will be getting this device which only increases the odds of getting root. Just my opinion though.
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That is what I am thinking as well. Then the question is - how much use can be squeezed out of the "edges" from the rom developers?
stackz07 said:
That is what I am thinking as well. Then the question is - how much use can be squeezed out of the "edges" from the rom developers?
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I would love root, don't get me wrong. I'm just not getting my hopes up because of the history with Samsung and Verizon. Let's keep our fingers crossed and if need be, get a bounty thread going once we start getting devices (if the current root method doesn't work with VZW).
I don't know if it will have root... The Note 3 lost root ever since updated to 4.4.4 with a new exploid Verizon did with kernel + bootloader and it hasnt been able to root.. I figure same would be for Note 4 on Verizon... S6 or S6E would be the same or worst... Plus I don't know if there will be any development support since this S6/S6E have Samsung's Exynos processor (Not open source).
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I would love root, don't get me wrong. I'm just not getting my hopes up because of the history with Samsung and Verizon. Let's keep our fingers crossed and if need be, get a bounty thread going once we start getting devices (if the current root method doesn't work with VZW).
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The current method to root the s6 involves cf root which requires an unlocked bootloader... meaning chances that it will work in Verizon/AT&T is little to none. Let's hope that an exploit is found that will allow root
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2swizzle said:
The current method to root the s6 involves cf root which requires an unlocked bootloader... meaning chances that it will work in Verizon/AT&T is little to none. Let's hope that an exploit is found that will allow root
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Yeah I think those are for the dev editions.
But if we can get root some how.
All we need is root I think if I'm not mistaken hsbadr as a similar work around to safestrap and MORE I think it was mentioned in one of his Jasmine threads if forgot will post link when I find it.
If we don't get root, and the devs around here don't find a way to expand on the limited Edge functions, then the Edge is a total gimmick. The Edge does not have separate screens for the edges like the Note. The S6 edge just has curved glass/screen. You can only use 1 edge at a time (you select left or right) - which is absurd for a dual edged phone. And you can only do about 4 basic things with it most Launchers have been able to do for years. So I pray it gets expanded on as right now... a clock, a news feed, basic notifications, 5 people/contacts, and ring colors for those 5 people/contacts is hardly that cool. For example, people/contact on 1 edge and say an app launcher on the other edge.

[REQUEST] Moto Display CM 12.1 Port

Here is a zip file on my Google Drive containing a full backup of all the Moto apps (Display, Actions, Voice, Assist) from SU4TL_44. Would one of you kind developers please port these to cm or your own custom ROMs? Please&thank you
[Update] Thanks to @ChazzMatt for pointing out that this has already been done over on the Moto Maxx forums, which got split due to us Turbo owners getting jealous.
Why would you want this? CM already has ambient display which works just as well (I personally think it works better but that's just my opinion).
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miketoasty said:
Why would you want this? CM already has ambient display which works just as well (I personally think it works better but that's just my opinion).
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Oh, I meant all the Moto apps. I really like the ability to customize the voice commands launch phrase like saying "hey droid turbo" instead of "ok google." And the simplicity of Moto actions far surpasses Tasker and the like for things like setting vibrate mode at work.
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Oh, I meant all the Moto apps. I really like the ability to customize the voice commands launch phrase like saying "hey droid turbo" instead of "ok google." And the simplicity of Moto actions far surpasses Tasker and the like for things like setting vibrate mode at work.
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CM has all the features that stock has other than being able to change the launch phrase, and I doubt anyone cares enough to take the time to port it. If you can't live without it just stay on stock.
Edit: Not trying to be a jerk, but CM 12.1 still has bugs that need to be worked out for the Maxx/Turbo and we still don't have VoLTE officially which I would assume both have a higher priority than these. It may happen eventually but it wouldn't be easy to do so I don't think many would want to take it on.
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miketoasty said:
CM has all the features that stock has other than being able to change the launch phrase, and I doubt anyone cares enough to take the time to port it. If you can't live without it just stay on stock.
Edit: Not trying to be a jerk, but CM 12.1 still has bugs that need to be worked out for the Maxx/Turbo and we still don't have VoLTE officially which I would assume both have a higher priority than these. It may happen eventually but it wouldn't be easy to do so I don't think many would want to take it on.
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Upcoming cm nightly has volte patch
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miketoasty said:
...doubt anyone cares enough to take the time to port it. If you can't live without it just stay on stock.....don't have VoLTE officially.....It may happen eventually but it wouldn't be easy to do so I don't think many would want to take it on.
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I assumed VoLTE would have a higher priority, but I wanted to post a request up so devs would start thinking about it.
Also: Looks like my "dream" came true after all! Computerfreek274 made a port of Mokee open source ROM here, and is working on porting all Moto apps from the Turbo to it, including the Moto suite and Verizon's visual voicemail.
richii0207 said:
Upcoming cm nightly has volte patch
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That's great news, I don't check the change log a lot so thanks for letting us know.
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immadeofpixels27 said:
I assumed VoLTE would have a higher priority, but I wanted to post a request up so devs would start thinking about it.
Also: Looks like my "dream" came true after all! Computerfreek274 made a port of Mokee open source ROM here, and is working on porting all Moto apps from the Turbo to it, including the Moto suite and Verizon's visual voicemail.
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That's pretty awesome, once it's working on one it should work for all AOSP ROMs.
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miketoasty said:
That's pretty awesome, once it's working on one it should work for all AOSP ROMs.
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I hope it works that way
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Sweet, this is exactly what I was hoping for. Hopefully if it works they can port Moto features into most roms (or make a way for us to implement it.)
Latiken said:
Sweet, this is exactly what I was hoping for. Hopefully if it works they can port Moto features into most roms (or make a way for us to implement it.)
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When @computerfreek274 finishes porting everything to his custom ROM, I'm going to test them out on Cyanogenmod. If that works, I'll get his permission to make a post with download links for each app (moto apps will stay bundled, obviously)
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When @computerfreek247 finishes porting everything to his custom ROM, I'm going to test them out on Cyanogenmod. If that works, I'll get his permission to make a post with download links for each app (moto apps will stay bundled, obviously)
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That'd be great, let us know if it works.
I'm super excited now.
You guys are asking for stuff already done.
Almost everything has already been ported back in early November for Resurrection Remix which @baybutcher27 did. Moto put the same stuff on all the Quarks and the Droid Turbo is just the last to get freedom. Other devs, other ROMs are there for the Quarks for months now. But the forums got split before that happened (because Droid Turbo owners didn't like seeing all the Quark dev work they couldn't participate in at the time), so you have to venture over to the Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx forum...
However while he ported most everything, he decided to not include it in the ROM as default, letting users install what they wanted.
See this page. Read it carefully.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/development/rom-resurrection-remix-5-5-5-t3197643/page48
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and that's beside the fact that almost all ROMs already have the same functionality, even it the feature doesn't have the same exact name...
Moto Voice = OK Google
Moto Display = Ambient Display
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but again, @baybutcher27 has done the work to port most Moto apps. Go read that page. If you install RR ROM, you can decide which Moto suite apps to install with only a couple of exceptions.
ChazzMatt said:
You guys are asking for stuff already done.
Almost everything has already been ported back in early November for Resurrection Remix which @baybutcher27 did. Moto put the same stuff on all the Quarks and the Droid Turbo is just the last to get freedom. Other devs, other ROMs are there for the Quarks for months now. But the forums got split before that happened (because Droid Turbo owners didn't like seeing all the Quark dev work they couldn't participate in at the time), so you have to venture over to the Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx forum...
However while he ported most everything, he decided to not include it in the ROM as default, letting users install what they wanted.
See this page. Read it carefully.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/development/rom-resurrection-remix-5-5-5-t3197643/page48
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and that's beside the fact that almost all ROMs already have the same functionality, even it the feature doesn't have the same exact name...
Moto Voice = OK Google
Moto Display = Ambient Display
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but again, @baybutcher27 has done the work to port most Moto apps. Go read that page. If you install RR ROM, you can decide which Moto suite apps to install with only a couple of exceptions.
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Thanks so much for reminding me that the forums got split. Haven't really frequented much since root but now with the bootloader unlocked I'm excited to customize everything.
Moto Display = Ambient Display
its not the same
ambient display its crap
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Moto Display = Ambient Display
its not the same
ambient display its crap
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It's the same on the Quark, maybe not other Android devices -- because the Quark CM DEV did fantastic coding for the IR sensors.
Why are you digging up old posts from 2015?
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It's the same on the Quark, maybe not other Android devices -- because the Quark CM DEV did fantastic coding for the IR sensors.
Why are you digging up old posts from 2015?
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i want the exactly... with shake for torch and everything
marianoasis said:
i want the exactly... with shake for torch and everything
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We HAVE shake for torch and everything -- on CM12.1 (which is now obsolete), on CM13 and all Marshmallow custom ROMs, and now on Nougat (CM14 based).
Im on cm14 and its not the same
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Im on cm14 and its not the same
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Just saying that it's not the same isn't going to solve anything. You have to elaborate or nobody will be able to help you (or interested in helping you, for that matter).
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Why would you want this? CM already has ambient display which works just as well (I personally think it works better but that's just my opinion).
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Bc i like the way Moto Display looks with the circular notifications instead of a full bar across the screen. I prefer moto display and would most definitely be interested in this. One reason why i dislike CM roms.
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Just saying that it's not the same isn't going to solve anything. You have to elaborate or nobody will be able to help you (or interested in helping you, for that matter).
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I think what he means is that with the Moto Display you get that circular notification where you can swipe left to ignore and swipe right to jump to that notification. Whereas with the CM ambient display you have the full bar across the screen like a regular notification.

Nexus line

We are not going to get all the features in Pixel in 7.1. Im hoping after someone does get an unlocked version we can get the features. But it looks like it will only be exclusive to Pixel phones including the launcher
May I ask will Nexus 6 get any more security updates as they come down or no?
Or after Nougat thats it plain and simple?
Thanks In advance
The Launcher is an app. I'm already using an older version of it.
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tyreman1 said:
May I ask will Nexus 6 get any more security updates as they come down or no?
Or after Nougat thats it plain and simple?
Thanks In advance
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No more major Android upgrades, but security updates for at least another year.
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The Launcher is an app. I'm already using an older version of it.
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No more major Android upgrades, but security updates for at least another year.
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Thank you so much for the reply, i appreciate that.
So we have basically another year.
Then prolly look at something else.
New google pixels, well the better model........... near new iphone 7 pricing in canada:laugh:
tyreman1 said:
May I ask will Nexus 6 get any more security updates as they come down or no?
Or after Nougat thats it plain and simple?
Thanks In advance
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After 7.1 that will be it for the 6 i believe. They say the 6 is iffy on getting the 7.1 and it will be a dev preview if we get it and it will be before end of year.
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The Launcher is an app. I'm already using an older version of it.
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No more major Android upgrades, but security updates for at least another year.
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The new launcher will be hard to get until someone gets the phone then im sure we will have it
who cares about updates?
If the phone runs fine, has great specs, and dev support, no one cares about any of this update non sense..
Do you REALLY care if you get the Pixel launcher on this phone, when Nova already blows it away??
Security updates???? You root your phone, don't you, so you obviously dont care that much about "Security"
This obsession with "updates" is really nothing more than a learned dysfunction...
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So we have basically another year.
Then prolly look at something else.
New google pixels, well the better model........... near new iphone 7 pricing in canada:laugh:
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So, I get it, the Pixel is too expensive for me too. But so was the 6 and the 6P. I bought the 6 after it's been out a year. And the Pixel XL is obviously a good phone, even if we disregard all the PR rubbish they said. Well I couldn't give a critter's backside for the Google Assist, but if it sells more phones, good for them. But the camera is superb for the first time, and the screen looks great, and it's optimized for that hardware. That means a no lag Android phone.
If all the above is true, then it should compete with the Galaxy S, and the iPhone line.
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cell2011 said:
The new launcher will be hard to get until someone gets the phone then im sure we will have it
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About two weeks. I just hope for factory images, then we'll see what is Pixel exclusive, and what's not...
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So, I get it, the Pixel is too expensive for me too. But so was the 6 and the 6P. I bought the 6 after it's been out a year. And the Pixel XL is obviously a good phone, even if we disregard all the PR rubbish they said. Well I couldn't give a critter's backside for the Google Assist, but if it sells more phones, good for them. But the camera is superb for the first time, and the screen looks great, and it's optimized for that hardware. That means a no lag Android phone.
If all the above is true, then it should compete with the Galaxy S, and the iPhone line.
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About two weeks. I just hope for factory images, then we'll see what is Pixel exclusive, and what's not...
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It was already mentioned yesterday from the SVP of Google that we will not see all the Pixel exclusive features in 7.1 unless you buy that said phone. They may agree later to expand to other phones just not sure
aside from the better camera, I am not sure many real Nexus "fans" care about any of the so called "features" of 7.1 or the Pixel line itself..
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It was already mentioned yesterday from the SVP of Google that we will not see all the Pixel exclusive features in 7.1 unless you buy that said phone. They may agree later to expand to other phones just not sure
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And what did I say, exactly?
wase4711 said:
aside from the better camera, I am not sure many real Nexus "fans" care about any of the so called "features" of 7.1 or the Pixel line itself..
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I hear you im happy with my N5 and 6. I dont even use Allo or Duo. Action Launcher and others is just fine with me.
agreed; I tried Allo and duo, but after reading how intrusive and spy ware based they are, I got rid of them..plenty of other choices out there that do the same thing..

root....maybe.

So @nitayart has been putting in some work on the s7....
muppetmaster916 said:
So @nitayart has been putting in some work on the s7....
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There's a glimmer of hope after all...
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I have a quick question about this, will it be possible to root my ATT S7 EDGE running Nougat?
Thanks.
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There's a glimmer of hope after all...
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I have a quick question about this, will it be possible to root my ATT S7 EDGE running Nougat?
Thanks.
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We don't know if it'll work for Qualcomm s7 in general yet. But if so then yeah hopefully.
WOO-HOO a glimpse of hope after almost a year of being released!! I myself will not be upgrading, am sick of financing phones... so this will be awesome for me if it can get done.
rachelm920 said:
WOO-HOO a glimpse of hope after almost a year of being released!! I myself will not be upgrading, am sick of financing phones... so this will be awesome for me if it can get done.
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Same. I'm waiting for the s9. Be sweet to have a custom recovery and Rom on this thing though.
This would be awesome, although I'm not holding my breath.
lets keep our fingers crossed that we can have a stable root on S7e soon.
Yeah root no eng boot !
If he hasn't looked at the Qualcomm version it doesn't mean anything. It's completely different.
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If he hasn't looked at the Qualcomm version it doesn't mean anything. It's completely different.
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He looked at it, responded back to me. He was asking me to build a special cable that I'm not able to make. I'm not sure if he has others testing or not. But he did say at first glance the bug that he exploited on other variants did not appear to be present.
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He looked at it, responded back to me. He was asking me to build a special cable that I'm not able to make. I'm not sure if he has others testing or not. But he did say at first glance the bug that he exploited on other variants did not appear to be present.
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Do you have any details on the special cable that he needed built? Maybe I could help.
nynativ said:
Do you have any details on the special cable that he needed built? Maybe I could help.
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Pm him on Twitter.
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So @nitayart has been putting in some work on the s7....
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That is S7 Edge international read previous posts and screen objects no hope for perm root on ANY AT&T FUTURE SAMSUNG DEVICES he even told me
he didnt tell me the bold red part but the rest and thats because AT&T and SAMSUNG are crazy locking bootloaders. AT&Ts bad in general but stuck on business plan so just switching away from samsung and only buying unlocked phones direct from carrier is best bet if you want root perm and recovery. thats what im doing done personally giving my money to AT&T.
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WOO-HOO a glimpse of hope after almost a year of being released!! I myself will not be upgrading, am sick of financing phones... so this will be awesome for me if it can get done.
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im with you but hate to say AT&T SAMSUNG screwed us now im throwing money toward an unlocked phone because root is the necessary for me.
BaconSeeds said:
That is S7 Edge international read previous posts and screen objects no hope for perm root on ANY AT&T FUTURE SAMSUNG DEVICES he even told me
he didnt tell me the bold red part but the rest and thats because AT&T and SAMSUNG are crazy locking bootloaders. AT&Ts bad in general but stuck on business plan so just switching away from samsung and only buying unlocked phones direct from carrier is best bet if you want root perm and recovery. thats what im doing done personally giving my money to AT&T.
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im with you but hate to say AT&T SAMSUNG screwed us now im throwing money toward an unlocked phone because root is the necessary for me.
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I caved, and was sick and tired of problems. I had 4 S7Es, 2 Nexus, and 2 S5s, my boyfriend's on his 2nd LG, my friend's S7E has extremely bad screen burn. My daughter has never had an issue with her iPhone. I went out and bought one. If I can't have root, I might as well have an Apple. At least the battery isn't dead by lunch.
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I caved, and was sick and tired of problems. I had 4 S7Es, 2 Nexus, and 2 S5s, my boyfriend's on his 2nd LG, my friend's S7E has extremely bad screen burn. My daughter has never had an issue with her iPhone. I went out and bought one. If I can't have root, I might as well have an Apple. At least the battery isn't dead by lunch.
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That's what I most likely will do as well. Sucks that rooting is pretty much dead. I pretty much only want root for hotspot.
Android300ZX said:
That's what I most likely will do as well. Sucks that rooting is pretty much dead. I pretty much only want root for hotspot.
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This works for free hotspot until there is root https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3383680
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using XDA-Developers Legacy app
Android300ZX said:
That's what I most likely will do as well. Sucks that rooting is pretty much dead. I pretty much only want root for hotspot.
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Busy go over to the U firmware. That's why I did. No hotspot restrictions.
Android300ZX said:
That's what I most likely will do as well. Sucks that rooting is pretty much dead. I pretty much only want root for hotspot.
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And my iphone came with it out of the box! Use it daily to play my game on my nexus 7 when there's no wifi available.
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And my iphone came with it out of the box! Use it daily to play my game on my nexus 7 when there's no wifi available.
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Does your AT&T plan include tethering? Because I'm pretty sure the iPhone checks to make sure you are allowed before turning it on as well.
That said, I'm also bummed about the root situation, but for other reasons. I did find a pretty good firewall in NetGuard, and (ironically) the Package Disabler app that only works on Samsung devices was able to disable most of the bloat. Only the ability to backup and restore individual apps (or even just their data) is missing, and why I still wish I had root.
(yes, I know I can use ADB for some backups, but I'm not sure downgrades are possible that way)

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