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Who would buy phones that break down whenever saliva is spit on it?

sujitmohanty2012 said:
Can someone pls answer me.. while talking to a persona last night sitting adjacent to me, 2 tiny pint's of his saliva spit falls on my L90's display(while no screen protector wass over it),then is my phone's display LCD/logic board susceptible to liquid damage as much as it being damaged by water itself, since saliva too is a liquid with pH 7. I did wipe it off with a soft dry cloth immediately but I am afraid & have these crazy thoughts lingering in my mind for quite sometime now. so can please somebody answer me & clear my doubts
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You're seriously being overly paranoid. As long as it didn't get soaked, you're gonna be ok The phone is protected by Gorilla Glass by the way...

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You're seriously being overly paranoid. As long as it didn't get soaked, you're gonna be ok The phone is protected by Gorilla Glass by the way...
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Yeah. none of my gorilla glass phone really cracked or got water. Just dont pressure the screen too much or you will get an inner LCD crack, drops of water should not cause that much of a obvius damage to display

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You're seriously being overly paranoid. As long as it didn't get soaked, you're gonna be ok The phone is protected by Gorilla Glass by the way...
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@shinobisoft Yes..I know I surely am being paranoid ! This paranoia got induced in me ever since I faced a lot many pre-hardware defect-prone MOTO G (never misused), I have become extremely sensitive to even minute issue's & try to evaluate it's potential negative consequences. I just wanted to ensure that no issues surface on my L90 this time
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Yeah. none of my gorilla glass phone really cracked or got water. Just dont pressure the screen too much or you will get an inner LCD crack, drops of water should not cause that much of a obvius damage to display
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@ruzell Ya sure ! but that would be the last thing (pressurize) my phone too much Thank You so much for being such an amazing community out here & taking the time to reply. Have noted your suggestions & will definitely take care of them.
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Best. Thread. Ever.
Who would buy phones that break down whenever saliva is spit on it?
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@wojtek267 Thank You to have conveyed the message though, in an indirect way of course. Appreciate your sense of humor ! But I have to tell you this is only a part of my effort to calm my restless mind. No matter what my perception & knowledge is, it's people's POV that matters to me.
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I seem to have used the wrong word "pint" in my OP here. what I wanted that to mean for the size was, two extremely tiny droplets of water (one near the bottom center & one near the left edge) similar to the size of a tiny mole on our body. Apologies for any likely inconvenience/ difficulty in understanding.

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DIY GUIDE TO REPLACING THE 19$ BROKEN GLASS on the galaxy note

hi folks. i managed to replace my galaxy note front glass with a new one i got from ebay for 19$ and i want to make a step by step guide on how it can be done.
i did it using common tools and a s load of pacience and attention.
the tools i used are: heat gun with hi and low settings, exacto knife set,small phillips and flat screwdrivers, goo gone, and optional a screen protector.
first take the phone apart as it's describet in countless of threads and youtube videos. you should end up with the screen assembly shown in the first picture.
now we have to separate the glassscreen from the frame it sits on. for this we fire up the heat gun.
a few words about using the heat gun.
-my gun had 2 settings: low and high. during all this process i used it on low.
-don't put the gun directly and/or close to the thinn plastic wires that hold the two connectors.
- dont hold the gun in the same place more than 3 seconds, instead swipe the gun around the spot and the screen like u would do with a paint brush when painting.
- dont hold the gun too close, that is closer than 3 inch
-concentrate on the spot u working at but try to heat up the whole screen assembly, as it has to give away from all the points kind of at the same time, and not just the point u working at.
- dont overheat the screen as this will damage the amoled. thats how i got the two yellow spots on my screen. first one by accident and second one intentionaly to see if indeed the overheating is what caused it.
A very good rule for this is dont heat the phone more than you can bear to touch it cause afterall you have to hold the phone while working on it...
the way i did it is :
-i heated up the whole screen assembly, back and front, for a minute or two
- than i started to stick the tip of the exacto knife between the glass and the metal edge that sorrounds it. i started from the upper right corner, the side where the front camera is. see photo 2.
the goal is to unstick the glass from the frame. in photo 3 the frame and the screen is shown without the upper glass. this photo was taken after i finished everything, thats why the screen can be seen inside the frame. but i posted it to show the black sticky tape that its used to hold the glass to the frame. i think is the same kind of sticky tape thats used in all the touchphones including iphone to hold the front glass to the rest of the phone. in photo 4 i unsticked some of the tape to show it better. this tape is the main thing that holds the the glass to the frame. the other thing that hold the screen to the frame is some sticky glue on the back of the screen. but this is much softer and thiner glue. this is the reason why i say to heat up the whole screen assemby including the backside, to make it easyer to unstuck the glass and scren thats glued to it.
- once you get a bit of a foothold in the upper corner between and the glassand the frame you continue the folowing procedure again and again until the glass and screen detaches from the frame:
-every 2 minutes or so , when i feel the asemby cooled down, i'd heat up the whole assembly for 5 seconds or so, than concentrate on the spot i worked on for another 5 seconds, than move/push the exacto knife a bit. dont force it. after a while youl get a feel of it. if the exacto knife happend to be out, i would heat up the blade after heating up everything else, and than put the blade in.
prevent the freed parts from sticking back to the frame by using the rest of the exacto knife blades as shims.
once it detaches it should look like photo 5- the glass glued to the screen.
- now we have to detach or unglue the glass from the screen.
procedure is the same: start somewhere, heat, put knife in, etc... i used a second knife as shim folowing the first knife, and after avery couple moves i would get the knife out and wipe off the epoxy glue. heat the blade and put it back in.
when finished you should have something like photo 6 and 7: free screen covered in glue epoxy residue.
- now we have to get rid of the glue residue. i took the bulk of it usinga flat exacto knife blades like the one in photo 8 and 10. just warm the place a bit with the air gun and scrape it off with the blade. to clean what was left i used a bit of goo gone on a pice of cloth or napkin photo 9.
cleaned screen can be seen in photo 11 - sadly out of focus.
if u are like me and r impatient to test the screen you can just connect with just the side connector like in photo 12 and 13. the upper connector is for the s pen digitizer. side connector is for the screen and touch digitizer.
now all that's left is to put the phone back together except leave the new glass for last.
-first thing is to put the screen(without the glass) back on the frame. try to center it just right, so that ther's a little bit of space between the sides of the screen and the frame.
at this point all that will hold the screen to the frameis the thin layer of glue on the back of the screen. after centering and lowering the screen in the frame procede to put the phone back together folowing in reverse order the same steps used to disasambe it. when finished you should end up with the whole functioning phone except the front glass -as seen in photo 14.
now you can chose to trim and put a screen protector on the scree so as to fill the empty space between the screen and the glass - the space where the glue was, or you can just leave it empty. you can put a screen protector anytime after by removing the glass. which should be much easier to remove now that its held in place only by the blach sticky tape on the edges. just use some suction cap to remove it, starting at an age, and remove it like fliping a page. see photo 16. i used the note for 2 weeks without the screen protector in the empty space and it worked without a problem onlt thing was that when i pushed hard the glass would touch the screen and leave a bit of dirt in that place. thats why i decided to put the screen protector to fill the void. in photo 15 i raised the screen protector to make it visible in the photo.
if you are like me and worry that somehow the glass might fall off the phone you can always get a hard plastic case for the phone, like the one in the pics. it's made of 2 parts. one goes on the back one on the front and they snap togeter around the phone. this will hold the glass in place no matter what while it will also protect the phone.the case is in photos 17 and 18. i got this one of ebay for 8$ and free shipping.
the last thing to be done is:
for some reaseon the touch screen became much more sensitive after removing the glue so you need to lover the touch sensitivity. for this get the touchscreentune app from the market. it works with galaxy note and galaxy s2. put the sensitivity from the recomended 25 to 50.
the best thing about this procedure is that i dont have to worry about the f ing glass anymore. if it brakes again i'l just order another one and in under 2 minutes i can replace it. all i have to do is get the phone case off, put a suction cap on , , remove the old glass , and put the new glass. that's it.
because it takes 4 to 8 hours i would recommend the process to be done in 3-4 sessions as people would get tired after 2 hours of work and tend to lose focus, attention, patience and start to push to get it faster done, and that's when bad stuff happens like yellow spot burn on the screen or small scratches. another thing about scratches, even if u manage to scrach the screen dont worry to much as the scratches are almost invisible when the screen turns on. youl see what i mean ....
i do have one question: WHY DID SAMSUNG DECIDE TO GLUE THE SCREEN TO THE GLASS INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM SEPARATE LIKE ALL THE OTHER TOUCHPHONES?
I do the same for Galaxy S. I removed broken pieces of glass from device using guitar pick and carefully glued a new glass on each side. 9$ (free delivery) on ebay.
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anonymous572 said:
I do the same for Galaxy S. I removed broken pieces of glass from device using guitar pick and carefully glued a new glass on each side. 9$ (free delivery) on ebay.
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what kind of glue did you use? where did u get the glue from? how did u do it?
i didnt glue the glass back to the screen. i just put the glass on the frame. to fill the void where the glue was i trimed a regular screen protector and put it inbetween the glass and the screen. but it works same without it.
Very interesting, I didn't think it was possible because the glass is glued to the SAMOLED panel. I'm very glad that I am wrong.
As much as I hate to think about it, a guide like that would probably come in handy for many of us at some point.
*knocks on wood*
pboesboes said:
Very interesting, I didn't think it was possible because the glass is glued to the SAMOLED panel. I'm very glad that I am wrong.
As much as I hate to think about it, a guide like that would probably come in handy for many of us at some point.
*knocks on wood*
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Nothing is impossible with the right tool and know-how . The glue could probably be uncured with a heat gun, just like ipad. The challenge is not damage the panel and make sure it is dust free after put back the replacement.
It is said impossible because of the difficulty involved. If you can't manage to install a screen protector with perfect alignment and zero dust spike, this task is not for you.
@drevilatwork Thank you for writing this step by step guide!
I dropped my phone last night and it landed face down, cracking the glass.
I'm so upset, but I don't think I have the skills or the tools to do this job myself. I am relieved to learn that the glass can be replaced, but do you know whether the Samsung agents are likely to be able to do this?
they probably wont do it. but you can try showing this thread to some technician or phone repair shop and they might do it for you. they also might charge you a lot to the point where it might be more convenient to just buy a new 260$ screen.
looks scary dude
all im going to say is good luck separating the 2 screens without breaking the lcd or scratching the crap out of it ... this is a 90% epic fail method but thumbs up to the few that may succeed or dont mind their screen looking like its been belt sanded...
Its worth a try, since screen replacement costs 230 euros.
kawgirlval69 said:
all im going to say is good luck separating the 2 screens without breaking the lcd or scratching the crap out of it ... this is a 90% epic fail method but thumbs up to the few that may succeed or dont mind their screen looking like its been belt sanded...
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actually .. the funny thing is that even if u manage to screch the screen and / or leave dirt behind it doesn't show while the phone is on. it might show when is off but not when is on. i was suprised about that too. and secondly, having to do it again knowing what i know now i would do it without leaving a mark. and in the end is certenly worth a shot before ordering the 260$ screen assembly. the special thing that it requires is pacience and attention.
Why different prices for all the same lenses in this shop ?
drevilatwork said:
actually .. the funny thing is that even if u manage to screch the screen and / or leave dirt behind it doesn't show while the phone is on. it might show when is off but not when is on. i was suprised about that too. and secondly, having to do it again knowing what i know now i would do it without leaving a mark. and in the end is certenly worth a shot before ordering the 260$ screen assembly. the special thing that it requires is pacience and attention.
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as i said good luck with it and hope you make some money doing it..... ive successfully done the same thing myself but other than it will never look good like a factory screen (not even close), the amount of time it takes to make it look anywhere near acceptable (not like a 10 dollar repair) is big and that makes the repair not really worthwhile doing it for anyone but yourself and even then who spends 700-800 dollars on something and does a repair that makes it look cheap... then theres the whole ordeal of the membrane youre taking the adhesive off of along with the HUGE chance of damaging it.. it is placed with precision and adhered for a reason along with being dust and scratch free... this is a repair that just wont last because things will start functioning improperly for multiple reasons...
im not knocking you or anyone who tries this..im just trying to emphasize the dangers, downfalls and the probability of it being a legit solid repair. also the resale value when the next greatest thing comes along... just beware....
Hmmmm
Well chaps I hate to disagree here, but after speaking to the technical bods at Samsung it appears that the OLED is NOT glued to the glass, but the glass is laminated and bonded in, much like a car windscreen. My screen got broken the other day and I have read the 2 posts on XDA regarding this. Now if you go and have a look at the pics of the other post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487716
you can clearly see the OLED, although broken, seperated from the glass with no sign of any glue. The reason it broke is that upon heating the glass you will melt the glue, which will then stick to the edges of the OLED and if you pry it at the wrong place/time/too hard/whatever you will break the OLED as it is glued to the bezel itself. So when my glass arrives I am going to attempt to remove the glass using fishing line and pulling it between the glass and the bezel and OLED to release it, the same way as I used to remove car windscreens, and post the results here. I have also been told that the reason for the sticky "epoxy" mess that you encountered in this postis from melting the plastic on the back of the glass (which is the lamination!) by using too much heat.....I mean come on, a heat gun is a bit excessive!! Prying the screen out a bit at a time might work, but will surely end in tears, where as cutting the cold adhesive with a fine nylon cable, which wont scratch the OLED, might just work. I'll keep you posted on my results.
Just throwing an idea out there: maybe the adhesive would be easier to defeat when it's really cold, rather than really hot. I know a lot of adhesives become quite brittle when you put them in the freezer, superglue and epoxy for example. And the electronics/plastics of the display could be relatively fine with the low temps.
pboesboes said:
Just throwing an idea out there: maybe the adhesive would be easier to defeat when it's really cold, rather than really hot. I know a lot of adhesives become quite brittle when you put them in the freezer, superglue and epoxy for example. And the electronics/plastics of the display could be relatively fine with the low temps.
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this is not one of them...i can guarantee this 100%
learn how a digitizer is made then you might see the light, and not just the light of white trash repair and failure...
ive explained it in great detail many times... and btw just because im a girl doesnt mean what im saying is wrong... 20+ years in the industry gives me sort of a clue as to what im saying..
im trying to help people avoid a long drawn out disaster and to waste $20(which is NOT gorilla glass) plus all of the other things they buy to try to make this a success which will never happen...
and fyi freezers, superglue and epoxys are big no no's...they are not used by any factory so there is another myth busted... they will just add to the destruction... 100% guarantee
kawgirlval69 said:
this is not one of them...i can guarantee this 100%
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What do you mean? One of what?
learn how a digitizer is made then you might see the light, and not just the light of white trash repair and failure...
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I know how a digitizer is made.
ive explained it in great detail many times... and btw just because im a girl doesnt mean what im saying is wrong... 20+ years in the industry gives me sort of a clue as to what im saying..
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I had no idea you were a girl and I don't see why that matters. Experience is the industry is of course relevant, if your particular field in the industry was related to repairs. But I don't know if it is?
im trying to help people avoid a long drawn out disaster and to waste $20(which is NOT gorilla glass) plus all of the other things they buy to try to make this a success which will never happen...
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The glass on the Note is Gorilla glass: http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/full-products-list
and fyi freezers, superglue and epoxys are big no no's...they are not used by any factory so there is another myth busted... they will just add to the destruction... 100% guarantee
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I didn't say factories use superglue or epoxy, or freezers for that matter. But the fact that factories don't use them doesn't mean it can't work for DIY repairs. Low temperature brittleness isn't exclusive to epoxy or superglue. Many, many glues (and other materials) have that property.
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What do you mean? One of what?
I know how a digitizer is made.
I had no idea you were a girl and I don't see why that matters. Experience is the industry is of course relevant, if your particular field in the industry was related to repairs. But I don't know if it is?
The glass on the Note is Gorilla glass: http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/full-products-list
I didn't say factories use superglue or epoxy, or freezers for that matter. But the fact that factories don't use them doesn't mean it can't work for DIY repairs. Low temperature brittleness isn't exclusive to epoxy or superglue. Many, many glues (and other materials) have that property.
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i mean exactly what i wrote... as per your idea... this wasnt one that would work... my god man do i have to spell everything out for you???
obviously you dont know how a digitizer is made or you wouldnt have spouted the crap you have... bottom line
the girl part..well some dont think women know anything..its a culture thing.. but as for you not knowing if my particular field in the industry was related to repairs my god ive only said it multiple times in multiple posts... but since you dont like to read i'll say it again..20+ years board level factory trained.. motorola, audiovox, nokia, samsung... and this is a samsung forum so i think i have my tech qualifications covered here... again READING IS GOOD... work on that...
again you just dont read or have horrible comprehension because i never said the notes screen wasnt gorilla glass i said the $19 one wasnt... seriously every time you type something you dig yourself a deeper hole...
your superglue and epoxy blather just shows you dont have a clue and dont read... really they dont have any place in the screen/lcd part of diy.. its just trouble looking for a place to happen... now if the plastic housing needs repaired maybe but still not a top ten choice... if you had a clue you would know the proper adhesive to use... and its easily found... you are just too much...
seriously...just give it a rest... i wasnt bashing on you and have said it ive also said all im trying to do is help people not make a bad decision... and THIS IS A BAD DECISION...
you want me to play nice (which i really am..most other forums here would have totally lowered the boom on you for spouting crap... ive been really nice.. to keep it that way just go post somewhere where you can be productive... here youre not... im sure you have some great ideas but nothing you have said in this thread is remotely good.. sorry but it is what it is...
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kawgirlval69 said:
i mean exactly what i wrote... as per your idea... this wasnt one that would work... my god man do i have to spell everything out for you???
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The sentence made no sense considering what it was replying to. Not my fault you were unclear/ambiguous.
obviously you dont know how a digitizer is made or you wouldnt have spouted the crap you have... bottom line
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Ok?
the girl part..well some dont think women know anything..its a culture thing.. but as for you not knowing if my particular field in the industry was related to repairs my god ive only said it multiple times in multiple posts... but since you dont like to read i'll say it again..20+ years board level factory trained.. motorola, audiovox, nokia, samsung... and this is a samsung forum so i think i have my tech qualifications covered here... again READING IS GOOD... work on that...
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Reading is very good, but you can't assume everyone in a public forum has read every single post of yours and remembers every detail. What isn't helping is the lack of proper punctuation and formatting which make your posts unpleasant to read.
again you just dont read or have horrible comprehension because i never said the notes screen wasnt gorilla glass i said the $19 one wasnt... seriously every time you type something you dig yourself a deeper hole...
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Replacement screens are generally OEM parts.
It might appear I'm in a hole, but that's only because I live in Holland and am below sea level. I assure you I haven't done any digging.
your superglue and epoxy blather just shows you dont have a clue and dont read... really they dont have any place in the screen/lcd part of diy.. its just trouble looking for a place to happen... now if the plastic housing needs repaired maybe but still not a top ten choice... if you had a clue you would know the proper adhesive to use... and its easily found... you are just too much...
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I wasn't suggesting to use superglue or epoxy, read it again.
seriously...just give it a rest... i wasnt bashing on you and have said it ive also said all im trying to do is help people not make a bad decision... and THIS IS A BAD DECISION
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I get that, and appreciate your concern. However, you should understand that some people like to try things even when the chance of success is not very high. You seem to be one of us in that regard (you attempted repairs yourself too, right?), so I don't see why it upsets you so much.
you want me to play nice (which i really am..most other forums here would have totally lowered the boom on you for spouting crap... ive been really nice.. to keep it that way just go post somewhere where you can be productive... here youre not... im sure you have some great ideas but nothing you have said in this thread is remotely good.. sorry but it is what it is...
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I don't care if you play nice or not. I appreciate honesty. Now for some honesty in return: you're not helping in this thread.
All you do is say people's ideas are stupid without giving arguments that aren't arguments from authority. And I would very much appreciate it if you would stop misrepresenting my posts (intentional or not).

First Scratch test!!!

enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAExzHJIHHE
Wow, I cringed when he used the box cutter. I was sure it would leave a few scratches. Thats awesome. Im still getting protectors for the front and back though lol
Yea you're right to be careful, my S3 was supposedly scratch resistant, scratch tested with box cutters etc yet still got a huge load of scratches on the screen. Apparently sand/dust in your pockets is the cause (has to be, never dropped it or anything)
I don't know why these videos exist, they test objects that everyone knows will not scratch the screen,
Metal is softer than normal glass, let along toughened mobile phone glass.
Most people do not realize that. My mother for instance puts paper towels on her counter beneath wood cutting plates so the wood doesn't scratch the stone. lol
Plus, there are people here that are complaining about getting magical scratches and breakage.. It would be good for them to watch...
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Rusty! said:
I don't know why these videos exist, they test objects that everyone knows will not scratch the screen,
Metal is softer than normal glass, let along toughened mobile phone glass.
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True ... bus has we have soooo many people in here complaining that the phone scratches by himself ... without any object at all ... this test seems fair to me.
The conclusion is ... please fill your pockets with keys, coins and the nexus4 ... it will be safer than to walk with the phone alone in the pocket ...
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True ... bus has we have soooo many people in here complaining that the phone scratches by himself ... without any object at all ... this test seems fair to me.
The conclusion is ... please fill your pockets with keys, coins and the nexus4 ... it will be safer than to walk with the phone alone in the pocket ...
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Isn't it a little contradictory? These videos can't scratch either the back or the screen. But here, people are having scratches out of nowhere. This confuses a potential buyer (like me).
What should I do? Should I buy one?
They're not getting 'scratches out of nowhere' they just don't know how they did it.
Little tiny bits of grit will scratch any bit of glass.
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Isn't it a little contradictory? These videos can't scratch either the back or the screen. But here, people are having scratches out of nowhere. This confuses a potential buyer (like me).
What should I do? Should I buy one?
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Dust particles or sand make the most scratches from what I can tell. I think you should buy it, I will when I have the chance.
But I'll also get a satchel or something I can keep it in.
Yea people complaining about dust scratching their phone have a defective phone or just really bad luck somehow
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Yea people complaining about dust scratching their phone have a defective phone or just really bad luck somehow
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what? No its the opposite dude, dust can contain sand... sand is hard enough to scratch class.
metal is too soft, keys are too soft, they'll never scratch gorilla glass
Cool. Drop test?
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you can find it on youtube
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I frequently carry loose diamonds/rubies/emeralds in my pockets
I want a sandblast test.
its scarachable alright..
i was at a casino i had couple chips in my pocket.. that night i was a lil buzzed but i do remember everything.. my N4 got a scratch on the back from the chip.. the reason i know its from the chip was because the color was kinda embeded into the back cover.. not embeded literally but u get the meaning..
Androd - A true story. said:
i was at a casino i had couple chips in my pocket.. that night i was a lil buzzed but i do remember everything.. my N4 got a scratch on the back from the chip.. the reason i know its from the chip was because the color was kinda embeded into the back cover.. not embeded literally but u get the meaning..
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So how much did you lose man?
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So how much did you lose man?
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LOL.
On topic, this is actually confusing for a buyer lol, "random" scratches just seem unlikely to affect the phone..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlgG33n71m0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
For anyone who is interested the link above is a drop test. Not English. German or Austrian I think.
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enjoy!
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Stopped at 0:10 when the camera is CONSTANTLY out of focus.

Found a first case of a cracked back side

https://translate.google.com/transl...ny-xperia-z3-ja-z3-compact&edit-text=&act=url (original: http://kiip.ee/arvustus-sony-xperia-z3-ja-z3-compact/ )
One long and "clean" crack. According to the review(er), the crack happened inexplicably; they did some tests with water and dust/sand, but no drop tests.
It makes me wonder if the Z3C has significant overheating issues. It could be that the excessive heat from 4k recording induces a temperature shock to the glass if it is exposed to cold water shortly after.
Looking at the direction of the crack, it's unlikely that it's the result of "pocket flex"
No don't tell me that! Now I feel like I certainly need a case.
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No don't tell me that! Now I feel like I certainly need a case.
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Since the review doesn't mention anything about an impact to the glass, if it is indeed due to overheating, then a case would likely only increase the risk of cracking.
One possibility is that it happened during 4k video recording, since that's the one activity that makes the phone heat up the most.
But of course, there is also still the possibility that something went wrong during the tempering procedure of the glass back panel of this particular unit. Or maybe the sand test made some micro scratches and caused a weakness? We just can't know for sure.
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No don't tell me that! Now I feel like I certainly need a case.
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That's what I don't understand about 'you people'. Why would you use it without any case or so? It should be more then normal to protect such an expensive device somehow.
An accident is so easily made even if it's not your fault, but why take the risk?
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Yeah so avoid 4k unless you really need to record it. It seems like several Z2 owners have been experiencing cracked screens. Some were lucky and able to get theirs replaced under Sony warranty but some others aren't. Found that the warranty reviewers would often blame it on the owner for damaging it. I'm just worried that if this is a common issue, we would have to pay for repairs.
Dsteppa said:
That's what I don't understand about 'you people'. Why would you use it without any case or so? It should be more then normal to protect such an expensive device somehow.
An accident is so easily made even if it's not your fault, but why take the risk?
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While using a case is generally a good idea, it would actually - as I said earlier - increase the risk of cracking if it did indeed happen due to overheating, because a case will make it harder for the heat to dissipate.
And for a phone of which one of its main features is its beautiful design, it's kind of a shame if you must hide that design 24/7 in a case.
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While using a case is generally a good idea, it would - as mentioned in above - only increase the risk of cracking if it did indeed happen due to overheating, because a case will make it harder for the heat to dissipate.
Also, for a phone of which one of its main features is its beautiful design, it is kind of a shame if you have to hide that design 24/7 with a case.
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Yeah, but in a perfect world you never drop your phone and does the screen never crack without a reason.
Of course the feature of a phone is to look nice, but drop it once or twice and you might have a whole lot of headache, just because you refused to use a case.
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Dsteppa said:
Yeah, but in a perfect world you never drop your phone and does the screen never crack without a reason.
Of course the feature of a phone is to look nice, but drop it once or twice and you might have a whole lot of headache, just because you refused to use a case.
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Again, there's no mention of a drop in the review; it cracked inexplicable as the review states. Cracks from drops or impacts also usually look a lot messier.
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Again, there's no mention of a drop in the review; it cracked inexplicable as the review states. Cracks from drops or impacts also usually look a lot messier.
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Yeah I know there isn't I read it, but it's not only about the review. There is a saying that goes: Better safe then sorry.
Nowadays people use their phone for a lot more things then just calling/texting people, you can lose so many valuable files when your phone breaks, so why take that risk?
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Yeah I know there isn't I read it, but it's not only about the review. There is a saying that goes: Better safe then sorry.
Nowadays people use their phone for a lot more things then just calling/texting people, you can lose so many valuable files when your phone breaks, so why take that risk?
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Right. Well then it would be best to use one of these cases with holes in them, for not increasing the risk of cracking from heat.
I suppose that the good thing about a glass back is that, unless it is very wet, it actually "sticks" to your skin much more than any matte plastic back, so the risk of dropping is lower which compensates for its fragility. I tested this by holding my phone (xperia acro s with a soft-touch plastic back) backwards. When I put the phone on my hand with the display facing down, I can hold my hand in a much steeper angle and the phone will only start to slide off very slowly. But if I put the phone on my hand with the plastic back facing down, it will very quickly slide off at a 45 degree angle.
What is the Z3C back made from?
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What is the Z3C back made from?
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Glass, I think this crack confirms that. There's no certainty about which brand the glass is from though. Some say Dragontrail, others say Gorilla Glass 3. The official product page just mentions "tempered glass"
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Glass, I think this crack confirms that. There's no certainty about which brand the glass is from though. Some say Dragontrail, others say Gorilla Glass 3. The official product page just mentions "tempered glass"
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Since the Xperia Z, people are wondering what kind of glass it is, Sony never said what it is and just referred to it as tempered glass.
Its probably just regular ass glass haha
maybe put THIS on and the risk would be greatly reduced?
ah_hin said:
maybe put THIS on and the risk would be greatly reduced?
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The rhino shield is a perfect impact protection but I doubt it will protect the glass when the temperature chances too quickly.
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maybe put THIS on and the risk would be greatly reduced?
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Well, went through the reviews on Amazon and found -though generally good- somewhat mixed feedback, especially when it comes down to durability. My current Xperia M is equipped with a regular screen protector foil and it did not need any replacement since about a year. But what really keeps me off is the price of some 25$ (front) or 29$ (front and back) Rhino is calling, so one can get 10+ regular foils for that.
Anyhow, my new Z3C (hope it'll be shipped sooner ) will immediatly be foiled and secured by a case.
I hate cases, I have never had one I liked, so I end up using my phones without a case. I'll do the same with the Z1C.
There is now also a first case of screen shatter by accidental drop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIFgcCoWEZs
Supposedly it fell into concrete from around pocket height.
It's also notable how there are actually chunks out of the plastic frame, rather than just scuffs.
Update: the surface texture of the concrete was "a little rough" according to the person who dropped it.

Should this be a concern?

Xperia z3 compact popping display: http://youtu.be/9JrfMjiNB9E
Mine does the same thing. Serms there is a hollow spot with something like tape or maybe a buffer of some kind. Anyway it sort of bugs me. Anyone break one of these down or know why it does this?
That's probably what it is. They put tape inside to reduce creaking and make it feel a little more solid. Original Moto X had a blue silicon pad inside with adhesive on both sides.
This is ridiculous, why would you even press on the screen that hard?!
My G3 or Note 3 don't do that. I can press as hard as I want and the display will crack before it bends. Is the glass bending? I am looking to get a Z3 but I would like to know what is actually moving.
I lightly press my screen and get the same result...it's not pressing hard at all.
What kind of joke is this phone?
So many issues.
blinky28 said:
I lightly press my screen and get the same result...it's not pressing hard at all.
What kind of joke is this phone?
So many issues.
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I was going to order one now I don't know... It was tempting with the 10% off for students but seriously why must all good phones have issues? I just wish that my G3 was water proof.
blinky28 said:
I lightly press my screen and get the same result...it's not pressing hard at all.
What kind of joke is this phone?
So many issues.
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what the hell? the screen flexes that easily? i've never had a phone that did that...
between this crap, the spontaneous cracks, and the scratch magnet back cover, i'm seriously regretting my purchase
Yep there's a lot going wrong with this phone...you've got to wonder about the legitimacy of all the early glowing reviews.
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Yep there's a lot going wrong with this phone...you've got to wonder about the legitimacy of all the early glowing reviews.
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it's hard to get a feel for build quality when the review just consists of 2-3 hours with the phone. Looks nice, is thin/light, runs well -- A+!
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Yep there's a lot going wrong with this phone...you've got to wonder about the legitimacy of all the early glowing reviews.
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Very happy with the phone myself, but I don't listen to as much of "the sky is falling" crap as others. This doesn't bother me though it is nice there is some bend, probably help with drops versus a straight shatter depending on how it hits..
I have zero bend/give
km8j said:
I have zero bend/give
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are there production dates stamped on the phone? i'd be curious to see if they switched materials at some point.
or if they're made in different factories
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Very happy with the phone myself, but I don't listen to as much of "the sky is falling" crap as others. This doesn't bother me though it is nice there is some bend, probably help with drops versus a straight shatter depending on how it hits..
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Yeah you might be right actually...then again...plenty of broken screen reports out there
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Very happy with the phone myself, but I don't listen to as much of "the sky is falling" crap as others. This doesn't bother me though it is nice there is some bend, probably help with drops versus a straight shatter depending on how it hits..
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my wife's phone pops when you are looking for it and press alot more than you would ever do during normal use. Not really an issue on this particular phone.
If it would pop just during normal operation I would consider it a problem though.
In this German test the glass back display cracked spontaniously:
http://www.areamobile.de/handys/4275-sony-xperia-z3-compact/testbericht
I tried to test the glass panels in the shop the other day by pressing it with my thumb a bit and I noticed that the front display could be pressed in quite easy, changing the colours on the display. Seems like pretty thin glass, hence the many reports of broken panels I guess.
It reminds me of the old cheap watches you got as as a kid that went all black when you press on the screen. Man i lobe everything else about the phone., well mostly, the other issue i have is terrible speaker phone quality when people are talking on their end. It sounds low and very crackely. Cant have that with my business. Anyone else have the speaker problem? Sigh i was so happy to get this thing and the smooth and fast feel is the best.
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I lightly press my screen and get the same result...it's not pressing hard at all.
What kind of joke is this phone?
So many issues.
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I'll tell you what is the issue. There are lots and lots of people who've bought this phone in a short time and the ones with faulty units are all gathering in communities such as this one. So you will have the illusion that this phone (or any other) is a major problem child, if you look no further than these online communities. It's like concluding that humans are a physically impaired and unhealthy species just because the people in hospitals are mainly sick and wounded ones.
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I'll tell you what is the issue. There lots and lots of people who've bought this phone in a short time and the ones with faulty units are all gathering in communities such as this one. So you will have the illusion that this phone (or any other) is a major problem child, if you look no further than these online communities. It's like concluding that humans are a physically impaired and unhealthy species just because the people in hospitals are mainly sick and wounded ones.
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:good: :good:
Well said :good:
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I'll tell you what is the issue. There are lots and lots of people who've bought this phone in a short time and the ones with faulty units are all gathering in communities such as this one. So you will have the illusion that this phone (or any other) is a major problem child, if you look no further than these online communities. It's like concluding that humans are a physically impaired and unhealthy species just because the people in hospitals are mainly sick and wounded ones.
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I dont feel like playing this lottery, if winning is a nice crack in the phone for no reason though. :crying:

Honor Note 10 lens dust solution

By me and my cat.
Kinda simple, really, once youll get this nice tool for opening the phone.
It seems that the dust gets inside through some small openings in the round lens protector, as the rest of the insides are really clean.
Anyway, enjoy
https://youtu.be/iCGr3we1SKQ
SmartPhonesFan said:
Nobody has dust in cameras..
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Stop **** posting , it is a common problem to get dust in your camera lense with this phone .
k4syx said:
By me and my cat.
Kinda simple, really, once youll get this nice tool for opening the phone.
It seems that the dust gets inside through some small openings in the round lens protector, as the rest of the insides are really clean.
Anyway, enjoy
https://youtu.be/iCGr3we1SKQ
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same here no dust!
SmartPhonesFan said:
what? it is ABSOLUTELY NOT COMMON PROBLEM YOU STOP SPREADING FALSE INFORMATION .. YOU ONLY HAVE DUST
GOD KNOWS U BEEN DOING WITH IT! IF U HAVE DUST WHY THE F** U DIDN'T CLAIM WARRANTY??
ARE U FOR REAL?? U DON'T KNOW PROCEDURE?? INSTEAD U TAKLONG HERE OPENING PHONE?? U OPENED PHONE B4 AND NOW U COMPLAINING ABOUT DUST.. JEEEZZ
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IKAN USE MYKAPS TOOOONEONEONE!!111
Please do stop shouting at all of us and accusing me of spreading false information. Dust under my lens protector - and the one that you can see in youtube video by this russian guy - was pretty real.
There is a problem with some Honor Note 10 units. There are - not always, not with every unit - ver small gaps around lens protector glass. If you will clean your phone with cloth (or your shirt etc) there will be a small dust particles buildup in time.
In my case it took almost four months and I am not the first nor the only case - just look around the web.
As for warranty claims. You gotta be kidding - you seriuosly think that I'd ship my phone around the globe, from Europe to Asia, because of something that I can fix in ten minutes by myself?
C'mon, that's just lame. Anyone with two good hands can do this himself.
And I think in someone already tried to claim warranty on that - to no avail.
If you dont have the dust there (yet?) then I am happy for you and I can even send you some kind of postcard with congrats for that.
Or if you happen to have two left hands or just like to claim warranty for any silly reason: go for it! Go go go!
Or buy new phone, whatever, I don't really care
But if you DO will notice this dust, feel free to use my guide on how to fix this problem
Well I did have this problem, and I am freely trying to help others with this issue fix it by themselves, in 10-15 minutes, without sending phone back (which would take 30-45 for trip both ways not even counting the money involved).
Which one of this things exactly trips you off?
Me trying to help others, or the fact that this can be fixed without refund/sending back the phone that someone may like like I like my piece?
If you'll do this in reasonable clean room (as you'd be applying screen protector) there will be no additional dust. And I'm saying in my vid that air duster is handy.
There already is a gasket under the back plate that goes around the lenses. It is some kind of flexible foam and you can see it in my video.
As for shattering the glass - yes, I suppose that someone could do that, but you'd really had to work for it, and I am saying in my vid that you need a sucking tool to pry open back plate.

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