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hii people i need some help here i have bought a samsung galaxy s with a broken screen glass thinking it would be cheap and easy to replace just the glass, and i have bought the glass from ebay and can tear down the phone but i dont know what to do when i get to the screen how do i seperate it and is their a touch layer under their or what and if anyone could suggest any good tutorials or pictures to help me understand then that would be great because it is not as easy as it seems lol :/ and please dont suggest that i buy a new screen all together because i do not have enough money and i might aswell buy a new phone for the price of an AMOLED lol thnx and plz feel free to PM me
You're wrong from the very beginning
The hardest part to separate in the Galaxy S is the AMOLED screen and the gorilla glass
because they are strongly attached together. It would be very hard if not impossible to separate them without damaging the AMOLED screen
i had this problem but there is help .. i for one done it the hard way and cracked the glass more on the screen very hard to do .. then picked it away with a very small metal pick . look at one of my posts its on here and trust me can be done and then it gets a bit harder putting new glass back on as one the touch dont work right but dw that can be sorted first buy a really thin screen protector then lay that on then lay the new glass over that and touch works fine .. hope this helps but there is a high level of one skill and to a real big risk of fakin up ur screen when picking away at it ..
thnx thats gave me allot more confidence and hope in doing this and succeeding thnx u have inspired me to actually attempt it and i myt aswell because if it works then iv done it the cheep option and if i dont try il never know if the cheap option is possible and achieveable and could uu post a link of your thread please so i can read it much thnx
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i had this problem but there is help .. i for one done it the hard way and cracked the glass more on the screen very hard to do .. then picked it away with a very small metal pick . look at one of my posts its on here and trust me can be done and then it gets a bit harder putting new glass back on as one the touch dont work right but dw that can be sorted first buy a really thin screen protector then lay that on then lay the new glass over that and touch works fine .. hope this helps but there is a high level of one skill and to a real big risk of fakin up ur screen when picking away at it ..
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how did you crack the gorilla glass more what tool did you use and how plz reply need help thnx
I'm in your same situation, and the solution that daleford2k10 proposes sounds great.
But I have some questions to ask you:
1) Where did u get the glass replacement?
2) What about the touch buttons (menu and back)? Because as I have seen in some disassembling videos they are strong glued. It is possible to get out (or break) the glass above them?
3) Did u tried with a hair-dryer first?
Thanks for your help
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I'm in your same situation, and the solution that daleford2k10 proposes sounds great.
But I have some questions to ask you:
1) Where did u get the glass replacement?
2) What about the touch buttons (menu and back)? Because as I have seen in some disassembling videos they are strong glued. It is possible to get out (or break) the glass above them?
3) Did u tried with a hair-dryer first?
Thanks for your help
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iv not tried anything yet as the hair dryer is concerned i got my glass from ebay
www (dot) ebay (dot) co (dot) uk/itm/Front-Glass-Lens-LCD-and-touch-screen-not-included-Samsung-Galaxy-S-i9000-/170739151176?pt=UK_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item27c0d8b148#ht_2226wt_1270[/url]
but i dont know if you are a uk resident but you can get it from Hong Kong too and im taking it easy asin trying to get as much info as possible first to do this before i do it oh and i dont think the buttons will cause that much of a problem and anyway if they do break but the screen doesn't its still a win as the buttons would only cost abit and i have also seen some disassembly videos but none separating the glass if you have could you post a link thnx
Finally I got the glass from ebay (the same one as the guy of this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21224865&postcount=238), but delivered from Hong Kong.
I haven't been able to find any videos of this neither... But as both jondale and devonblue4u say, I think it would be just a question of patience and being careful.
Good luck! As I think you will receive your glass first than me (it's going to take around 15 days according to the seller), please post some photos or videos once u do it.
success?
i am about to buy a SGS 1 smashed, but any of you two guys succeed in replacing the glass ONLY? i know i have just bought a dead thread back lol but sorry need to know. thanks
I remember reading somewhere a long time ago that it was done successfully once, but the person who did it had access to the glue used for sticking the screen to the glass, so he wasn't normal by any means. My suggestion? Suck it up and get both the screen and the display. The glass was not meant to be replaceable on its own.
I'm in the process of replacing mine. You can get the glass separated from the amoled using lots of patience,a heat gun, and very thin plastic of some sort. I used a variety of things including a business card, credit card and a very thin steel flat mrasuring tool. The key is heat and moving slowly. Lots of videos on youtube. when you are done there will be lots of glue on the screen, but it comes off by carefully rubbing it. Also, as crazy as it sounds wd40 gets rid of the rest. Saw this on youtube and was skeptical, but tried it and it worked. Cleaned the amoled with rubbing alcohol afterwards. I'm currently using my S with just the amoled while I wait for the new glass too arrive. Also, with the new glass, you won't put glue on the amoled, but around the outsides - again, youtube is yourfriend.
Hello guys, I have a Samsung Galaxy S GT-i9000 ...
I found some code for this machine, and place a code of the camera, and I was without a camera, now I can not go back to the camera, and some systems already installed some android to fix this error .... will someone help me?
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I'm in the process of replacing mine. You can get the glass separated from the amoled using lots of patience,a heat gun, and very thin plastic of some sort. I used a variety of things including a business card, credit card and a very thin steel flat mrasuring tool. The key is heat and moving slowly. Lots of videos on youtube. when you are done there will be lots of glue on the screen, but it comes off by carefully rubbing it. Also, as crazy as it sounds wd40 gets rid of the rest. Saw this on youtube and was skeptical, but tried it and it worked. Cleaned the amoled with rubbing alcohol afterwards. I'm currently using my S with just the amoled while I wait for the new glass too arrive. Also, with the new glass, you won't put glue on the amoled, but around the outsides - again, youtube is yourfriend.
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I am also looking forward to replace the glass screen on my i9000 but I couldnt find any youtube video on how to do it. Can you give me a link? I would also like to know what kind of glue is needed. Thanks.
hi folks. i managed to replace my galaxy note front glass with a new one i got from ebay for 19$ and i want to make a step by step guide on how it can be done.
i did it using common tools and a s load of pacience and attention.
the tools i used are: heat gun with hi and low settings, exacto knife set,small phillips and flat screwdrivers, goo gone, and optional a screen protector.
first take the phone apart as it's describet in countless of threads and youtube videos. you should end up with the screen assembly shown in the first picture.
now we have to separate the glassscreen from the frame it sits on. for this we fire up the heat gun.
a few words about using the heat gun.
-my gun had 2 settings: low and high. during all this process i used it on low.
-don't put the gun directly and/or close to the thinn plastic wires that hold the two connectors.
- dont hold the gun in the same place more than 3 seconds, instead swipe the gun around the spot and the screen like u would do with a paint brush when painting.
- dont hold the gun too close, that is closer than 3 inch
-concentrate on the spot u working at but try to heat up the whole screen assembly, as it has to give away from all the points kind of at the same time, and not just the point u working at.
- dont overheat the screen as this will damage the amoled. thats how i got the two yellow spots on my screen. first one by accident and second one intentionaly to see if indeed the overheating is what caused it.
A very good rule for this is dont heat the phone more than you can bear to touch it cause afterall you have to hold the phone while working on it...
the way i did it is :
-i heated up the whole screen assembly, back and front, for a minute or two
- than i started to stick the tip of the exacto knife between the glass and the metal edge that sorrounds it. i started from the upper right corner, the side where the front camera is. see photo 2.
the goal is to unstick the glass from the frame. in photo 3 the frame and the screen is shown without the upper glass. this photo was taken after i finished everything, thats why the screen can be seen inside the frame. but i posted it to show the black sticky tape that its used to hold the glass to the frame. i think is the same kind of sticky tape thats used in all the touchphones including iphone to hold the front glass to the rest of the phone. in photo 4 i unsticked some of the tape to show it better. this tape is the main thing that holds the the glass to the frame. the other thing that hold the screen to the frame is some sticky glue on the back of the screen. but this is much softer and thiner glue. this is the reason why i say to heat up the whole screen assemby including the backside, to make it easyer to unstuck the glass and scren thats glued to it.
- once you get a bit of a foothold in the upper corner between and the glassand the frame you continue the folowing procedure again and again until the glass and screen detaches from the frame:
-every 2 minutes or so , when i feel the asemby cooled down, i'd heat up the whole assembly for 5 seconds or so, than concentrate on the spot i worked on for another 5 seconds, than move/push the exacto knife a bit. dont force it. after a while youl get a feel of it. if the exacto knife happend to be out, i would heat up the blade after heating up everything else, and than put the blade in.
prevent the freed parts from sticking back to the frame by using the rest of the exacto knife blades as shims.
once it detaches it should look like photo 5- the glass glued to the screen.
- now we have to detach or unglue the glass from the screen.
procedure is the same: start somewhere, heat, put knife in, etc... i used a second knife as shim folowing the first knife, and after avery couple moves i would get the knife out and wipe off the epoxy glue. heat the blade and put it back in.
when finished you should have something like photo 6 and 7: free screen covered in glue epoxy residue.
- now we have to get rid of the glue residue. i took the bulk of it usinga flat exacto knife blades like the one in photo 8 and 10. just warm the place a bit with the air gun and scrape it off with the blade. to clean what was left i used a bit of goo gone on a pice of cloth or napkin photo 9.
cleaned screen can be seen in photo 11 - sadly out of focus.
if u are like me and r impatient to test the screen you can just connect with just the side connector like in photo 12 and 13. the upper connector is for the s pen digitizer. side connector is for the screen and touch digitizer.
now all that's left is to put the phone back together except leave the new glass for last.
-first thing is to put the screen(without the glass) back on the frame. try to center it just right, so that ther's a little bit of space between the sides of the screen and the frame.
at this point all that will hold the screen to the frameis the thin layer of glue on the back of the screen. after centering and lowering the screen in the frame procede to put the phone back together folowing in reverse order the same steps used to disasambe it. when finished you should end up with the whole functioning phone except the front glass -as seen in photo 14.
now you can chose to trim and put a screen protector on the scree so as to fill the empty space between the screen and the glass - the space where the glue was, or you can just leave it empty. you can put a screen protector anytime after by removing the glass. which should be much easier to remove now that its held in place only by the blach sticky tape on the edges. just use some suction cap to remove it, starting at an age, and remove it like fliping a page. see photo 16. i used the note for 2 weeks without the screen protector in the empty space and it worked without a problem onlt thing was that when i pushed hard the glass would touch the screen and leave a bit of dirt in that place. thats why i decided to put the screen protector to fill the void. in photo 15 i raised the screen protector to make it visible in the photo.
if you are like me and worry that somehow the glass might fall off the phone you can always get a hard plastic case for the phone, like the one in the pics. it's made of 2 parts. one goes on the back one on the front and they snap togeter around the phone. this will hold the glass in place no matter what while it will also protect the phone.the case is in photos 17 and 18. i got this one of ebay for 8$ and free shipping.
the last thing to be done is:
for some reaseon the touch screen became much more sensitive after removing the glue so you need to lover the touch sensitivity. for this get the touchscreentune app from the market. it works with galaxy note and galaxy s2. put the sensitivity from the recomended 25 to 50.
the best thing about this procedure is that i dont have to worry about the f ing glass anymore. if it brakes again i'l just order another one and in under 2 minutes i can replace it. all i have to do is get the phone case off, put a suction cap on , , remove the old glass , and put the new glass. that's it.
because it takes 4 to 8 hours i would recommend the process to be done in 3-4 sessions as people would get tired after 2 hours of work and tend to lose focus, attention, patience and start to push to get it faster done, and that's when bad stuff happens like yellow spot burn on the screen or small scratches. another thing about scratches, even if u manage to scrach the screen dont worry to much as the scratches are almost invisible when the screen turns on. youl see what i mean ....
i do have one question: WHY DID SAMSUNG DECIDE TO GLUE THE SCREEN TO THE GLASS INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM SEPARATE LIKE ALL THE OTHER TOUCHPHONES?
I do the same for Galaxy S. I removed broken pieces of glass from device using guitar pick and carefully glued a new glass on each side. 9$ (free delivery) on ebay.
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anonymous572 said:
I do the same for Galaxy S. I removed broken pieces of glass from device using guitar pick and carefully glued a new glass on each side. 9$ (free delivery) on ebay.
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what kind of glue did you use? where did u get the glue from? how did u do it?
i didnt glue the glass back to the screen. i just put the glass on the frame. to fill the void where the glue was i trimed a regular screen protector and put it inbetween the glass and the screen. but it works same without it.
Very interesting, I didn't think it was possible because the glass is glued to the SAMOLED panel. I'm very glad that I am wrong.
As much as I hate to think about it, a guide like that would probably come in handy for many of us at some point.
*knocks on wood*
pboesboes said:
Very interesting, I didn't think it was possible because the glass is glued to the SAMOLED panel. I'm very glad that I am wrong.
As much as I hate to think about it, a guide like that would probably come in handy for many of us at some point.
*knocks on wood*
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Nothing is impossible with the right tool and know-how . The glue could probably be uncured with a heat gun, just like ipad. The challenge is not damage the panel and make sure it is dust free after put back the replacement.
It is said impossible because of the difficulty involved. If you can't manage to install a screen protector with perfect alignment and zero dust spike, this task is not for you.
@drevilatwork Thank you for writing this step by step guide!
I dropped my phone last night and it landed face down, cracking the glass.
I'm so upset, but I don't think I have the skills or the tools to do this job myself. I am relieved to learn that the glass can be replaced, but do you know whether the Samsung agents are likely to be able to do this?
they probably wont do it. but you can try showing this thread to some technician or phone repair shop and they might do it for you. they also might charge you a lot to the point where it might be more convenient to just buy a new 260$ screen.
looks scary dude
all im going to say is good luck separating the 2 screens without breaking the lcd or scratching the crap out of it ... this is a 90% epic fail method but thumbs up to the few that may succeed or dont mind their screen looking like its been belt sanded...
Its worth a try, since screen replacement costs 230 euros.
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all im going to say is good luck separating the 2 screens without breaking the lcd or scratching the crap out of it ... this is a 90% epic fail method but thumbs up to the few that may succeed or dont mind their screen looking like its been belt sanded...
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actually .. the funny thing is that even if u manage to screch the screen and / or leave dirt behind it doesn't show while the phone is on. it might show when is off but not when is on. i was suprised about that too. and secondly, having to do it again knowing what i know now i would do it without leaving a mark. and in the end is certenly worth a shot before ordering the 260$ screen assembly. the special thing that it requires is pacience and attention.
Why different prices for all the same lenses in this shop ?
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actually .. the funny thing is that even if u manage to screch the screen and / or leave dirt behind it doesn't show while the phone is on. it might show when is off but not when is on. i was suprised about that too. and secondly, having to do it again knowing what i know now i would do it without leaving a mark. and in the end is certenly worth a shot before ordering the 260$ screen assembly. the special thing that it requires is pacience and attention.
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as i said good luck with it and hope you make some money doing it..... ive successfully done the same thing myself but other than it will never look good like a factory screen (not even close), the amount of time it takes to make it look anywhere near acceptable (not like a 10 dollar repair) is big and that makes the repair not really worthwhile doing it for anyone but yourself and even then who spends 700-800 dollars on something and does a repair that makes it look cheap... then theres the whole ordeal of the membrane youre taking the adhesive off of along with the HUGE chance of damaging it.. it is placed with precision and adhered for a reason along with being dust and scratch free... this is a repair that just wont last because things will start functioning improperly for multiple reasons...
im not knocking you or anyone who tries this..im just trying to emphasize the dangers, downfalls and the probability of it being a legit solid repair. also the resale value when the next greatest thing comes along... just beware....
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Well chaps I hate to disagree here, but after speaking to the technical bods at Samsung it appears that the OLED is NOT glued to the glass, but the glass is laminated and bonded in, much like a car windscreen. My screen got broken the other day and I have read the 2 posts on XDA regarding this. Now if you go and have a look at the pics of the other post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487716
you can clearly see the OLED, although broken, seperated from the glass with no sign of any glue. The reason it broke is that upon heating the glass you will melt the glue, which will then stick to the edges of the OLED and if you pry it at the wrong place/time/too hard/whatever you will break the OLED as it is glued to the bezel itself. So when my glass arrives I am going to attempt to remove the glass using fishing line and pulling it between the glass and the bezel and OLED to release it, the same way as I used to remove car windscreens, and post the results here. I have also been told that the reason for the sticky "epoxy" mess that you encountered in this postis from melting the plastic on the back of the glass (which is the lamination!) by using too much heat.....I mean come on, a heat gun is a bit excessive!! Prying the screen out a bit at a time might work, but will surely end in tears, where as cutting the cold adhesive with a fine nylon cable, which wont scratch the OLED, might just work. I'll keep you posted on my results.
Just throwing an idea out there: maybe the adhesive would be easier to defeat when it's really cold, rather than really hot. I know a lot of adhesives become quite brittle when you put them in the freezer, superglue and epoxy for example. And the electronics/plastics of the display could be relatively fine with the low temps.
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Just throwing an idea out there: maybe the adhesive would be easier to defeat when it's really cold, rather than really hot. I know a lot of adhesives become quite brittle when you put them in the freezer, superglue and epoxy for example. And the electronics/plastics of the display could be relatively fine with the low temps.
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this is not one of them...i can guarantee this 100%
learn how a digitizer is made then you might see the light, and not just the light of white trash repair and failure...
ive explained it in great detail many times... and btw just because im a girl doesnt mean what im saying is wrong... 20+ years in the industry gives me sort of a clue as to what im saying..
im trying to help people avoid a long drawn out disaster and to waste $20(which is NOT gorilla glass) plus all of the other things they buy to try to make this a success which will never happen...
and fyi freezers, superglue and epoxys are big no no's...they are not used by any factory so there is another myth busted... they will just add to the destruction... 100% guarantee
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this is not one of them...i can guarantee this 100%
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What do you mean? One of what?
learn how a digitizer is made then you might see the light, and not just the light of white trash repair and failure...
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I know how a digitizer is made.
ive explained it in great detail many times... and btw just because im a girl doesnt mean what im saying is wrong... 20+ years in the industry gives me sort of a clue as to what im saying..
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I had no idea you were a girl and I don't see why that matters. Experience is the industry is of course relevant, if your particular field in the industry was related to repairs. But I don't know if it is?
im trying to help people avoid a long drawn out disaster and to waste $20(which is NOT gorilla glass) plus all of the other things they buy to try to make this a success which will never happen...
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The glass on the Note is Gorilla glass: http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/full-products-list
and fyi freezers, superglue and epoxys are big no no's...they are not used by any factory so there is another myth busted... they will just add to the destruction... 100% guarantee
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I didn't say factories use superglue or epoxy, or freezers for that matter. But the fact that factories don't use them doesn't mean it can't work for DIY repairs. Low temperature brittleness isn't exclusive to epoxy or superglue. Many, many glues (and other materials) have that property.
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What do you mean? One of what?
I know how a digitizer is made.
I had no idea you were a girl and I don't see why that matters. Experience is the industry is of course relevant, if your particular field in the industry was related to repairs. But I don't know if it is?
The glass on the Note is Gorilla glass: http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/full-products-list
I didn't say factories use superglue or epoxy, or freezers for that matter. But the fact that factories don't use them doesn't mean it can't work for DIY repairs. Low temperature brittleness isn't exclusive to epoxy or superglue. Many, many glues (and other materials) have that property.
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i mean exactly what i wrote... as per your idea... this wasnt one that would work... my god man do i have to spell everything out for you???
obviously you dont know how a digitizer is made or you wouldnt have spouted the crap you have... bottom line
the girl part..well some dont think women know anything..its a culture thing.. but as for you not knowing if my particular field in the industry was related to repairs my god ive only said it multiple times in multiple posts... but since you dont like to read i'll say it again..20+ years board level factory trained.. motorola, audiovox, nokia, samsung... and this is a samsung forum so i think i have my tech qualifications covered here... again READING IS GOOD... work on that...
again you just dont read or have horrible comprehension because i never said the notes screen wasnt gorilla glass i said the $19 one wasnt... seriously every time you type something you dig yourself a deeper hole...
your superglue and epoxy blather just shows you dont have a clue and dont read... really they dont have any place in the screen/lcd part of diy.. its just trouble looking for a place to happen... now if the plastic housing needs repaired maybe but still not a top ten choice... if you had a clue you would know the proper adhesive to use... and its easily found... you are just too much...
seriously...just give it a rest... i wasnt bashing on you and have said it ive also said all im trying to do is help people not make a bad decision... and THIS IS A BAD DECISION...
you want me to play nice (which i really am..most other forums here would have totally lowered the boom on you for spouting crap... ive been really nice.. to keep it that way just go post somewhere where you can be productive... here youre not... im sure you have some great ideas but nothing you have said in this thread is remotely good.. sorry but it is what it is...
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i mean exactly what i wrote... as per your idea... this wasnt one that would work... my god man do i have to spell everything out for you???
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The sentence made no sense considering what it was replying to. Not my fault you were unclear/ambiguous.
obviously you dont know how a digitizer is made or you wouldnt have spouted the crap you have... bottom line
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Ok?
the girl part..well some dont think women know anything..its a culture thing.. but as for you not knowing if my particular field in the industry was related to repairs my god ive only said it multiple times in multiple posts... but since you dont like to read i'll say it again..20+ years board level factory trained.. motorola, audiovox, nokia, samsung... and this is a samsung forum so i think i have my tech qualifications covered here... again READING IS GOOD... work on that...
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Reading is very good, but you can't assume everyone in a public forum has read every single post of yours and remembers every detail. What isn't helping is the lack of proper punctuation and formatting which make your posts unpleasant to read.
again you just dont read or have horrible comprehension because i never said the notes screen wasnt gorilla glass i said the $19 one wasnt... seriously every time you type something you dig yourself a deeper hole...
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Replacement screens are generally OEM parts.
It might appear I'm in a hole, but that's only because I live in Holland and am below sea level. I assure you I haven't done any digging.
your superglue and epoxy blather just shows you dont have a clue and dont read... really they dont have any place in the screen/lcd part of diy.. its just trouble looking for a place to happen... now if the plastic housing needs repaired maybe but still not a top ten choice... if you had a clue you would know the proper adhesive to use... and its easily found... you are just too much...
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I wasn't suggesting to use superglue or epoxy, read it again.
seriously...just give it a rest... i wasnt bashing on you and have said it ive also said all im trying to do is help people not make a bad decision... and THIS IS A BAD DECISION
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I get that, and appreciate your concern. However, you should understand that some people like to try things even when the chance of success is not very high. You seem to be one of us in that regard (you attempted repairs yourself too, right?), so I don't see why it upsets you so much.
you want me to play nice (which i really am..most other forums here would have totally lowered the boom on you for spouting crap... ive been really nice.. to keep it that way just go post somewhere where you can be productive... here youre not... im sure you have some great ideas but nothing you have said in this thread is remotely good.. sorry but it is what it is...
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I don't care if you play nice or not. I appreciate honesty. Now for some honesty in return: you're not helping in this thread.
All you do is say people's ideas are stupid without giving arguments that aren't arguments from authority. And I would very much appreciate it if you would stop misrepresenting my posts (intentional or not).
I have gathered up reports of the glass cracking by itself, and have come up with 6 reports already. Very concerning considering the availability of the phone. If you have a similar problem happening to you, please do post here, and if possible, please fill out this survey.
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Currently at 10 reports.
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55904325&postcount=7
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55861318&postcount=14 / http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55861158&postcount=34
3/4. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...cked-shattered-on-it-s-own/m-p/844031#U844031 (2 posts in this)
5/6. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Cracked-screen/m-p/843849#U843849 (2 posts in this)
7. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Cracked-screen/m-p/843849#U843849
8. http://www.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/comments/2iv7sq/z3c_back_glass_cracked_eta_on_replacement_parts/
9. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Probable-PRODUCTION-FAULT-glass-broke-from-2cm-drop-add-your/m-p/846827/highlight/true#M525
10. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Probable-PRODUCTION-FAULT-glass-broke-from-2cm-drop-add-your/m-p/849689/highlight/true#M636
Lets say they sold 1000 phones so far, I would guess more but lets be very conservative. 6 "cracking by itself" in 1000 phones = .6% chance
I think we should post on this over and over since it is such a huge chance of happening.
Two of those are also the same person.
The screen is ridiculous flimsy. Putting pressure on the screen easily distorts the display. Sony went cheap with the glass. Don't sit on it, that's for sure.
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The screen is ridiculous flimsy. Putting pressure on the screen easily distorts the display. Sony went cheap with the glass. Don't sit on it, that's for sure.
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Lulz. Don't forcible bend you're phone and don't sit on it. Grade A advice.
Also, if you're Z3C is that flimsy, return it, cause mine certainly isn't that flimsy.
Crewville96 said:
Lulz. Don't forcible bend you're phone and don't sit on it. Grade A advice.
Also, if you're Z3C is that flimsy, return it, cause mine certainly isn't that flimsy.
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Mine is solid too. No flex or distortion at all. And I would say 0.6% is a bit high. Their total sales are probably greater than 1000 by now. Probably closer to 1500 so that's more like .03 - .04%
But not all the 1500 user complain on XDA or the web...
Crewville96 said:
Lulz. Don't forcible bend you're phone and don't sit on it. Grade A advice.
Also, if you're Z3C is that flimsy, return it, cause mine certainly isn't that flimsy.
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Who said anything about bending?
There are YouTube videos showing the issues with the screen/glass.
I am receiving a second Z3C in the office Friday. I will check it report back.
As for sitting on a phone, this should not be an issue. Everyone is acting as if this was never acceptable practice. I understand that things have changed and phones are getting thinner. However, would you not think a portable compact phone should be purchased for pocketability? I think it's outrageous people are so quick to dismiss and write off this simple and basic concept. And for what? For the sake of being a fan of a company that only wants your money? Apple, Sony, Samsung... They don't give a crap about the consumer.
Pocketability, to me, has never meant you can put a glass phone in your rear pocket.
maven1975 said:
Who said anything about bending?
There are YouTube videos showing the issues with the screen/glass.
I am receiving a second Z3C in the office Friday. I will check it report back.
As for sitting on a phone, this should not be an issue. Everyone is acting as if this was never acceptable practice. I understand that things have changed and phones are getting thinner. However, would you not think a portable compact phone should be purchased for pocketability? I think it's outrageous people are so quick to dismiss and write off this simple and basic concept. And for what? For the sake of being a fan of a company that only wants your money? Apple, Sony, Samsung... They don't give a crap about the consumer.
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WHY would you put your phone in your rear pocket and sit on it? It's bad for your back and CERTAINLY bad for any thin piece of technology with glass on it!
Not to mention rear pockets are easy targets for pick pockets...
degraaff said:
WHY would you put your phone in your rear pocket and sit on it? It's bad for your back and CERTAINLY bad for any thin piece of technology with glass on it!
Not to mention rear pockets are easy targets for pick pockets...
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I'm not concerned about pick pockets. If they want my phone, the could take it from my hands just as easily. So, I guess we are not to put our wallets in our rear pocket either?
I don't sit on it for long periods of time. More time than not, it is out of my pocket while seated. The issue I have is with these excuses for manufactures. I'm not starting a lawsuit or demanding a refund. I'm simply just annoyed by the arrogance displayed. Pointing the finger at consumers for using said devices the way they have been used for years.
I can see the phablet argument. Those devices should not be on your pockets. (brief periods of time) But seriously, a compact phone that risks damage by pocket? That's hardly looking at the real audience your catering too.
Its not damage by pocket. Its damage by weight and force.
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My rear glass cracked by itself. I have had my phone since launch (2 weeks now), and used it with care. There was not a single (micro-) scratch on it (no protection), never dropped or otherwise misused. So as to the reports they are scratchy - imho that's not true.
I put the phone on my desk, picked it up 30 minutes later, and noticed the rear glass was cracked. Picture attached. As you can see this is not the kind of cracking you get from dropping, smashing, or putting tension on it. The crack is beneath the surface - I can't feel it. The phone is on it's way back to the shop now, and I'll hope it will be a warranty thing.
Also, on a major Dutch tech-forum there are several stories about cracking glass (3 or 4 now, did't keep count).
It's a real thing! :crying:
CollinsJ said:
Lets say they sold 1000 phones so far
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Then they'd better shut down their smartphone department considering Apple sold 10 million units on the first weekend and the Z3C got really good previews :cyclops:
Please stop this discussion on back pockets, whether or not that pocket is suitable for phones is not for discussion here. All the reports I posted said front pockets, and that is concerning.
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My rear glass cracked by itself. I have had my phone since launch (2 weeks now), and used it with care. There was not a single (micro-) scratch on it (no protection), never dropped or otherwise misused. So as to the reports they are scratchy - imho that's not true.
I put the phone on my desk, picked it up 30 minutes later, and noticed the rear glass was cracked. Picture attached. As you can see this is not the kind of cracking you get from dropping, smashing, or putting tension on it. The crack is beneath the surface - I can't feel it. The phone is on it's way back to the shop now, and I'll hope it will be a warranty thing.
Also, on a major Dutch tech-forum there are several stories about cracking glass (3 or 4 now, did't keep count).
It's a real thing! :crying:
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So I take it that the phone wasn't cracked before putting on the table? Did you something on the phone before that could have caused it to heat up?
I've put together a Google forms survey to collect some objective breakage data:
Sony Xperia Z3 / Z3 Compact - Glass Survey
Please take some time to complete the survey whether you've experienced a breakage or not, it's important to have a complete set of data. You will be able to view the survey results after submitting the form.
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So I take it that the phone wasn't cracked before putting on the table? Did you something on the phone before that could have caused it to heat up?
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No, I'm quite sure it wasn't. As far as I know it was idle, just being stand-by .
"spontaneous crack"
like all the screen cracks ive seen before. Most of the time the user actually cracked it (fall, sit on it, etc.. but mostly falls where "oh im lucky nothing broke") and with some more use the crack propagated. yeah with plastic or metal it woulnt propagate tho.
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"spontaneous crack"
like all the screen cracks ive seen before. Most of the time the user actually cracked it (fall, sit on it, etc.. but mostly falls where "oh im lucky nothing broke") and with some more use the crack propagated. yeah with plastic or metal it woulnt propagate tho.
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Yeah, until someone is watching at the exact moment their phone spontaneously cracks, I'm not believing it. The way some people talk about the Z3C is like if you breathe on it too hard it will shatter instantaneously. My wife dropped her's from chest height onto hardwood floor with no case, screen protector, nothing. Not a scratch. Yet other people, drop it from a foot up, or having it leaning an it just tips over, and breaks... seems odd. Not calling these people liars, just that there must be more to it than that. Probably something along the lines of what bilboa1 said.
Hi All,
Has anyone been able to track down somewhere that is selling a replacement back for the Mix? Mine is scratched quite heavily (likely from using a fairly tight sleeve) and I would really like to replace it....Or for any poor soul out there who has damaged their Mix and would like to sell the back. The irony is the sides of the phone are pristine and not a scratch, not so much on the back.
Thanks in advance
imapfsr said:
Hi All,
Has anyone been able to track down somewhere that is selling a replacement back for the Mix? Mine is scratched quite heavily (likely from using a fairly tight sleeve) and I would really like to replace it....Or for any poor soul out there who has damaged their Mix and would like to sell the back. The irony is the sides of the phone are pristine and not a scratch, not so much on the back.
Thanks in advance
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And here's me thinking it was virtually impossible to scratch.
jazz452 said:
And here's me thinking it was virtually impossible to scratch.
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You are wrong.It is made in China.Enough said.Looks good but who cares about quailty.It is NOT CERAMIC but made to looks like it.
I had it and my suggestion is save money for Galaxy S8+ or something more valuable.
I had to take the pictures with my Galaxy tablet so not the best quality but you get the picture. This is with normal day to day use as well, nothing extreme. I even had the Best Buy film on the back for a few months but got tired of the sharp edges from the film every time i unlocked with the finger print sensor. I am wondering if the chemicals from the glue combined with peeling of the film stripped some of the finish somehow as this is supposed to be so scratch resistant. Maybe just one with a faulty finish.
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I had to take the pictures with my Galaxy tablet so not the best quality but you get the picture. This is with normal day to day use as well, nothing extreme. I even had the Best Buy film on the back for a few months but got tired of the sharp edges from the film every time i unlocked with the finger print sensor. I am wondering if the chemicals from the glue combined with peeling of the film stripped some of the finish somehow as this is supposed to be so scratch resistant. Maybe just one with a faulty finish.
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So the YouTube video is fake or is it your phone, it's been tested against scratches with a hardness of 7, second to none, don't get it. Not one other person complaining I dropped mine when it slipped off a table on it's own while i was in another room,, expecting the worse but not even a mark.
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So the YouTube video is fake or is it your phone, it's been tested against scratches with a hardness of 7, second to none, don't get it. Not one other person complaining I dropped mine when it slipped off a table on it's own while i was in another room,, expecting the worse but not even a mark.
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Sorry, I am not sure what your point is. I am certainly not making it up as per the pictures. I was only asking if anyone had seen the replacement backs anywhere. I absolutely love his phone but have been disappointed how much is has scratched on the back, not questioning the online videos etc.
By the way, what was the purpose of your post? If you have nothing to contribute to solving the question at hand why say anything?
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Sorry, I am not sure what your point is. I am certainly not making it up as per the pictures. I was only asking if anyone had seen the replacement backs anywhere. I absolutely love his phone but have been disappointed how much is has scratched on the back, not questioning the online videos etc.
By the way, what was the purpose of your post? If you have nothing to contribute to solving the question at hand why say anything?
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Suppose my point was because of shortage of the ceramic maybe they sent some out with different materials.
Mine is just fine after a while of use, both in and out of a protective case, side note mine also doesn't have the "cottage" cheese looking blemishes yours seems to have in the pictures. Its possible to have received a "repaired" one instead of a legit one ... especially if it came from a reseller. There are mentions of this on the xiaomi reddit and other places. its extremely scratch resistant, as much so as any Samsung or other device out there that I have dealt with [and I do service work on phones so I have seen plenty of damaged devices - HUGE number of sub standard Samsung's btw - for the value guy ]
Good luck on finding a part supplier, you MAY find one on Aliexpress ... but there more than likely not going to be genuine parts. Vopmart.com
Thanks to everyone for their feedback. I hope I didnt get a refurb etc, that would suck.
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Thanks to everyone for their feedback. I hope I didnt get a refurb etc, that would suck.
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Had a look about couldn't see any anywhere, don't know what the solution is, hope you come up with something.
Nicolfa said:
Mine is just fine after a while of use, both in and out of a protective case, side note mine also doesn't have the "cottage" cheese looking blemishes yours seems to have in the pictures.
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I think that is a reflection of the popcorn finish from the roof in my bedroom
imapfsr said:
I think that is a reflection of the popcorn finish from the roof in my bedroom
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Could you not sell your house buy another and take fresh picture to rule that out
I'm on it! ?
Lol is possible . I also hope you didn't get a refurbished​ one.
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Suppose my point was because of shortage of the ceramic maybe they sent some out with different materials.
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It's not the point of this discussion but I also have tiny scratches beside the lenses​ and fingerprint...
It's not unscratchable...
Nothing is unscratchable :_)
I just did a video review of liquid screen protectors.
No you didn't. A review would have actually used the product and presented some sort of conclusion on it's value or utility.
I'm not a physicist, but I have my doubts that this kind of product can provide any impact protection. Possibly it can help protect the glass from scratches as a sacrificial layer, but in order to provide long-term benefits there needs to be a way to remove and reapply the coating when scratches or scuffs occur, and I see nothing to explain how this can be done.
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No you didn't. A review would have actually used the product and presented some sort of conclusion on it's value or utility.
I'm not a physicist, but I have my doubts that this kind of product can provide any impact protection. Possibly it can help protect the glass from scratches as a sacrificial layer, but in order to provide long-term benefits there needs to be a way to remove and reapply the coating when scratches or scuffs occur, and I see nothing to explain how this can be done.
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My thoughts exactly. This stuff actually function like a ceramic coating that's used in vehicle paint (I'm a pro detailer). That's exactly what we call those coatings, "a sacrificial layer." Vehicle speaking, a rock could hit the paint coating and not damage the paint but the impact could still leave a dent or slight impression in the metal. This screen coating will probably be good to protect against minor scratching but the right impact could still break the screen.
It's tough it here. We spend all these hard earned dollars (it whatever for various countries) for the devices and expect superior protecting for them. I just don't think it exists yet.
Here's to being careful. Cheers!
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Howard the Magic Tech Guy?!? Well he sure did a neat vanishing trick from this thread lol
Sorry, I really should not laugh but come on!
chippyuk said:
Howard the Magic Tech Guy?!? Well he sure did a neat vanishing trick from this thread lol
Sorry, I really should not laugh but come on!
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I'm back... Firstly, I did put it on my old note 4 and it did not work at all.. But I no longer have that note 4... Like all of us we are all looking for the perfect screen protector and as I said in my review I didn't know if it worked. Sorry guys, not I don't have the resources to scratch test the phone at a 1000 per pop.
But I witnessed 1000s of people having this type of liquid on their phones at $30 a go.. My objective was at least to let potential customers do more research.. And as I mentioned on other forums the claims are a complete mixed bag some say they have fine scratches some don't even on amazon ... I just don't know... Maybe one of you can do a scientific scratch test.
Is it bird poo stain proof?
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Reminds me of products like spray on hair or spray on grip tape for skateboards. Lol
shouren04 said:
Reminds me of products like spray on hair or spray on grip tape for skateboards. Lol
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I remember that spray on grip tape... It sucked wasn't worth the can it was in:good::good::good:
I have wondered what people think of these chemical type liquid applications The cricket store here tries to get me to 40$ a pop and guaranties my screen not to break or they will replace it....
Im like yea noooo....
Im sure it will still break and Im sure when the time comes you will hassle me on whatever guaranty you have made
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I'm back... Firstly, I did put it on my old note 4 and it did not work at all.. But I no longer have that note 4... Like all of us we are all looking for the perfect screen protector and as I said in my review I didn't know if it worked. Sorry guys, not I don't have the resources to scratch test the phone at a 1000 per pop.
But I witnessed 1000s of people having this type of liquid on their phones at $30 a go.. My objective was at least to let potential customers do more research.. And as I mentioned on other forums the claims are a complete mixed bag some say they have fine scratches some don't even on amazon ... I just don't know... Maybe one of you can do a scientific scratch test.
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Not on a nearly 300$ plus screen no scratch tests for me
TheMadScientist said:
I remember that spray on grip tape... It sucked wasn't worth the can it was in:good::good::good:
I have wondered what people think of these chemical type liquid applications The cricket store here tries to get me to 40$ a pop and guaranties my screen not to break or they will replace it....
Im like yea noooo....
Im sure it will still break and Im sure when the time comes you will hassle me on whatever guaranty you have made
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Yup I hear ya, I rather go with a cheap plain ol PET screen protector anyday over gimmics like this one posted. What a joke. Actually that's what I'm using on my Note 8, no fancy glass screen protector due to the curved screen & case compatibility.