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[Q] trusted bluetooth dongle

I would prefer that Motorola gave an option to permit touchless control to work with passwords - but that is not the case
I decided to explore finding a Bluetooth dongle I could carry as a trusted Bluetooth device and found http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008NH3IEW/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 on amazon. While this works, there is a gotcha. What I am looking for is the dongle to keep the moto x unlocked while in my possession. When I am in my vehicle - I want the moto x to pair with the vehicle bluetooth.... The trouble is that the dongle I found presents itself to the phone as a headset, the same device type as the vehicle and I believe that the phone can only use one headset at a time. I could explore prioritizing the vehicle as higher than the dongle - but the dongle acts as an alarm and beeps if it loses connection with the phone....
soooo - does anyone know of a bluetooth dongle that is priced at throw-away prices that I can use as a trusted BT that I can carry - while permitting me to ALSO use the BT in my vehicle? This has to pass the "wife" test and just work without doing anything as it is for her phone.
The BETTER solution would be for Motorola to permit touchless to be configured to work while a phone is locked. I do not understand the security issues with enabling this functionality -- and even if there is to permit a user to make a decision. Afterall the touchless control is supposed to only respond to the owner - and while it is not perfect, it is not so bad. Come on Motorola - give us this option.

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gecko-make-your-smart-phone-smarter

murso74 said:
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gecko-make-your-smart-phone-smarter
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Interesting - but a tad overkill for what I am looking for.
I will track it though

simard57 said:
Interesting - but a tad overkill for what I am looking for.
I will track it though
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20 bucks though.. can't really go wrong.

murso74 said:
20 bucks though.. can't really go wrong.
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for the webpage
"Works with iOS and Android 4.3 devices" so it wont work on the Moto X until it is updated?

simard57 said:
for the webpage
"Works with iOS and Android 4.3 devices" so it wont work on the Moto X until it is updated?
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doh... missed that. lemme take a look
after reading it a couple of times it looks like only the gesture control requires 4.3. i can't imagine that just hooking up a bluetooth dongle would require that much

[Q] Fuelband as a Trusted Bluetooth Device?

So I am eagerly awaiting my Cyber Monday (Wednesday) Moto X and while doing so, I've been browsing through accessories I might want to enhance my Moto Xperience, and I really want to take advantage of the Trusted Bluetooth Device along with Touchless Controls.
I've been searching around, but I haven't been able to find a definitive answer, just off-to-the-side mentions of its use.. I have a Nike Fuelband SE that has BTLE. Nike doesn't support AndroidOS, so there's no dedicated app for it. I am, however, able to discover it with my current phone (Droid 4).
So basically, does anyone know if I will be able to use my Fuelband as a Trusted Bluetooth Device, or how I might go about doing that? I guess I could find some BL keychain if there was no way to use it.
Thanks ahead of time for your replies and help.

If your droid 4 can see it I can't see why the moto x won't. Once you connect to a Bluetooth device it will ask you if you want to make it a trusted device. If it doesn't the setting is under security. I can't see why it wouldn't work. Good luck.
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Thanks. I was concerned because it didn't actually support Android, but was hoping it could simply act as a dummy BTLE device. Got an e-mail from Fedex telling me it's arriving today so I'll test it out and come back here with what I've got

If anyone happens to be interested, the Fuelband SE isn't continuously syncing via Bluetooth to the Moto X. It pairs, and the Moto X asks if I want to make it a trusted device, but the notification tray icon never turns blue. It doesn't seem to be able to continuously sync. Too bad I was really looking forward to this.
If anyone knows a way around this, please let me know. Thanks!

iJusDefy said:
If anyone happens to be interested, the Fuelband SE isn't continuously syncing via Bluetooth to the Moto X. It pairs, and the Moto X asks if I want to make it a trusted device, but the notification tray icon never turns blue. It doesn't seem to be able to continuously sync. Too bad I was really looking forward to this.
If anyone knows a way around this, please let me know. Thanks!
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have you done any other testing? kit kat got rid of the blue theme. the icons are either orange (no connection), white (connected) or dark (disabled).

I just tried it with a bluetooth headset and the icon turns and stays white. With the Fuelband connected, it just stays sort of grayed out.

Working!
This has been pushed back due to what I assume is a lack of interest for, but in case someone else decides to figure this out or something similar to it, I have managed to get the Fuelband SE to "sync" with the Moto X and act as a Bluetooth Trusted Device.
There's an app on the Play store called "Bluetooth Auto Connect" that you can set to sync with the Fuelband (and what I assume would be any device) and it will do so automatically. The icon stays greyed out, but turning the Fuelband's BT on and off in turn pops up that Trusted Device notification on the Moto X.
I hope this helps someone else with any type of random trusted device need.
Cheers

iJusDefy said:
This has been pushed back due to what I assume is a lack of interest for, but in case someone else decides to figure this out or something similar to it, I have managed to get the Fuelband SE to "sync" with the Moto X and act as a Bluetooth Trusted Device.
There's an app on the Play store called "Bluetooth Auto Connect" that you can set to sync with the Fuelband (and what I assume would be any device) and it will do so automatically. The icon stays greyed out, but turning the Fuelband's BT on and off in turn pops up that Trusted Device notification on the Moto X.
I hope this helps someone else with any type of random trusted device need.
Cheers
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so what can you do with it?

640k said:
so what can you do with it?
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You can use it as your trusted device to keep your phone unlocked while you're in proximity to it and connected via Bluetooth. Saves me those few seconds of having to enter in my password, and maintains some security.

iJusDefy said:
You can use it as your trusted device to keep your phone unlocked while you're in proximity to it and connected via Bluetooth. Saves me those few seconds of having to enter in my password, and maintains some security.
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you're not using it for its fitness aspects?

640k said:
you're not using it for its fitness aspects?
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Oh, I thought you were referring to what I can do with the pairing to the Moto X.
I've been using the fitness aspect of the Fuelband since March 2012. The newest one that I have now I can use to track my general activity throughout the entire day, tag specific workout sessions in order to keep track of my workout intensity over time, track hours of sleep, and set goals for myself (via # of Fuel points) every day to give me an activity level to reach for. Since there's no Android app or any sort of Android support on Nike's end, I do all my data syncing through my PC.
And now I can use it to keep my phone unlocked when it's on me

I've got a Pebble syncing fine and enabled as a trusted device but my bluetooth icon is always greyed out. I think it only turns white when there's an audio connection like with a headset or stereo.

clankfu said:
I've got a Pebble syncing fine and enabled as a trusted device but my bluetooth icon is always greyed out. I think it only turns white when there's an audio connection like with a headset or stereo.
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Makes sense why mine is grayed out too. Pebble supports Android though, and since there's no support/app for the Fuelband on Android, I had to use the auto bluetooth connect app to force a pairing to make it a trusted device. Was close to buying a Pebble though. Saw it was on sale for $90.

iJusDefy said:
Makes sense why mine is grayed out too. Pebble supports Android though, and since there's no support/app for the Fuelband on Android, I had to use the auto bluetooth connect app to force a pairing to make it a trusted device. Was close to buying a Pebble though. Saw it was on sale for $90.
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Yup. I got mine yesterday from Best Buy for $90. Wasn't planning on buying one but, at that price, I thought what the hell. So far I'm really digging it.

Its a shame it wasnt hacked already it would be nice to have wristband with notification...I am not into fitness or watch stuffs :angel:

Thanks for the info on the app!
By using this app to ensure a connection, how long does your Fuelband SE battery last? I suspect it has shorten considerable from when you were not using BT at all.
Also, since there are at least 2 battery sizes depending on the band size (circumference), which size is yours?

[Q] Bluetooth rSAP support

Hi folks,
would it anyhow be possible to get bluetooth rsap working by using one of those custom roms or kernels available here ?
I'm pretty satisfied with this phone, but the missing rsap in combination with my car is annoying.
Could anyone help ?
Thanks a lot in advance !

Tsadan said:
Hi folks,
would it anyhow be possible to get bluetooth rsap working by using one of those custom roms or kernels available here ?
I'm pretty satisfied with this phone, but the missing rsap in combination with my car is annoying.
Could anyone help ?
Thanks a lot in advance !
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is rSAP supported by stock rom? If so I can try to get it working on CM based ones.

LuK1337 said:
is rSAP supported by stock rom? If so I can try to get it working on CM based ones.
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No, rSAP is not supported in stock. Searching around in the net showed, that the kernel of the stock rom has been complied without rSAP.
build.prop shows:
Code:
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# system property for Bluetooth SAP support
# Motorola disabled SAP
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ro.qualcomm.bluetooth.sap=false
What I was wondering, wouldn't it be possible to just activate what Moto disabled in a custom rom/kernel ?
What else would be missing in an android build to provide access to the SIM by a bluetooth device ?
Best regards
Tsadan

Update for CM13
Hi Guys,
now, just a view days ago I updated my Moto G 2014 to CM13 aka Android 6.
The release of it gave new hope to get SAP support for my phone, as per feature list of Android Marshmallow, SAP is now natively included in Android:
[Quote from Android.com]
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Connectivity
More power efficient Bluetooth Low Energy (“BLE”) scanning for nearby beacons and your accessories.
Hotspot 2.0: Connect to compatible Wi-Fi networks seamlessly and securely.
Bluetooth SAP: Make calls from your carphone using your phone’s SIM.
Portable Wi-Fi hotspot now supports 5GHz frequency bands.
</snip>
I was a bit disappointed when I noticed, that there seems no option to activate SAP for a bluetooth connection.
My question now would be: Is there now SAP support in CM13 on Moto G 2014 ? When yes, could you give me a hint how to activate it ? When there is actually no support for SAP, is it planned to implement it ?
Thanks in advance, best regards
Tsadan

Tsadan said:
Hi Guys,
now, just a view days ago I updated my Moto G 2014 to CM13 aka Android 6.
The release of it gave new hope to get SAP support for my phone, as per feature list of Android Marshmallow, SAP is now natively included in Android:
[Quote from Android.com]
<snip>
Connectivity
More power efficient Bluetooth Low Energy (“BLE”) scanning for nearby beacons and your accessories.
Hotspot 2.0: Connect to compatible Wi-Fi networks seamlessly and securely.
Bluetooth SAP: Make calls from your carphone using your phone’s SIM.
Portable Wi-Fi hotspot now supports 5GHz frequency bands.
</snip>
I was a bit disappointed when I noticed, that there seems no option to activate SAP for a bluetooth connection.
My question now would be: Is there now SAP support in CM13 on Moto G 2014 ? When yes, could you give me a hint how to activate it ? When there is actually no support for SAP, is it planned to implement it ?
Thanks in advance, best regards
Tsadan
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We aren't planning on implementing SAP and I doubt it's possible as it needs RIL driver support.
Code:
For this profile to work, the RIL driver must allow for this feature
to be used, and it must provide the API needed. The API is based on
protoBuf.

Please check the news on the android-rsap homepage. I found out how to enable rSAP on those Qualcomm phones where it did not work so far.

Moto's Wireless Sound System (Tempow)

Would a request for a copy of this apk from a non-Android One version belong here or in the MOTO X4 THEMES, APPS, AND MODS section? It seems like that's all that should be needed to get the multi-broadcast Bluetooth feature working on an Android One (Project Fi) Moto X4.

Android N doesn't support it. O does. Once the Android One version gets updated to O, probably won't even need the files from the "standard" version.

I'd also be interested about this. Was disappointed to learn this was excluded from the Android One version.

souleman said:
Android N doesn't support it. O does. Once the Android One version gets updated to O, probably won't even need the files from the "standard" version.
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This is not an Oreo feature. It's running on the Retail version now (Nougat). Motorola is calling it "Wireless Sound System". I'm not even entirely sure its a true Bluetooth product. You have to be on a 5 GHz WiFi to use more than one speaker.

DiDGR8 said:
This is not an Oreo feature. It's running on the Retail version now (Nougat). Motorola is calling it "Wireless Sound System". I'm not even entirely sure its a true Bluetooth product. You have to be on a 5 GHz WiFi to use more than one speaker.
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So the Moto version actually needs wifi speakers to work, not Bluetooth?
Bluetooth 5.0 supports multiple speakers, and is part of Android O. So once O is on our device (and you find Bluetooth 5 compliant speakers), then we should have this feature.
That sound better?

souleman said:
So the Moto version actually needs wifi speakers to work, not Bluetooth?
Bluetooth 5.0 supports multiple speakers, and is part of Android O. So once O is on our device (and you find Bluetooth 5 compliant speakers), then we should have this feature.
That sound better?
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Motorola's documentation says that WSS uses BT speakers. It also says the WiFi band in use makes a difference in the number of BT speakers you can connect to.
All I can guess is that 2.4GHz transmissions (BT and WiFi) don't play well together in the SD630's SOC modems. It's really confusing.
Besides, nobody is selling BT 5 speakers yet and I haven't seen anything that mentions multiple speaker support. Longer range, yes. Lower power, yes. If multiple speaker support is included, I've missed it.

souleman said:
So the Moto version actually needs wifi speakers to work, not Bluetooth?
Bluetooth 5.0 supports multiple speakers, and is part of Android O. So once O is on our device (and you find Bluetooth 5 compliant speakers), then we should have this feature.
That sound better?
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Motorola's documentation says that WSS uses BT speakers. It also says the WiFi band in use makes a difference in the number of BT speakers you can connect to.
All I can guess is that 2.4GHz transmissions (BT and WiFi) don't play well together in the SD630's SOC modems. It's really confusing.
Also, NOBODY is selling BT 5 speakers yet that I can find.

It is not an app in the drawer on retail X4 firmware. It is accessed through the Settings menu, in Wireless & networks under 'Wireless Sound System'. Once entered, it reads:
Using Wireless Sound System, you can listen to audio on up to 4 Bluetooth devices individually, or bring them together for a stereo setup.
Wireless Sound System overrides you phone's Bluetooth, so non-audio Bluetooth devices will pause while it's engaged.
This feature works best when your device is connected to Wi-Fi 5.0 GHz networks. You can only connect 1 Bluetooth speaker over Wi-Fi 2.4 GHz networks. Phone call routing is not supported at this time.
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I believe it is the MotoSound.apk in the system A partition (system/priv-app), but I could be wrong. It can be extracted from the 7.1.1. retail firmware posted on that thread, or someone with a retail X4 device could extract it. I am uncertain as to whether this apk alone would be sufficient to enable what you are asking for on a non-retail X4 device. It may be more complicated than a single apk file, particularly given how accessing it appears to be integrated into the settings menu rather than accessed through the app drawer.
Good luck!

8711 said:
It is not an app in the drawer on retail X4 firmware. It is accessed through the Settings menu, in Wireless & networks under 'Wireless Sound System'. Once entered, it reads:
I believe it is the MotoSound.apk in the system A partition (system/priv-app), but I could be wrong. It can be extracted from the 7.1.1. retail firmware posted on that thread, or someone with a retail X4 device could extract it. I am uncertain as to whether this apk alone would be sufficient to enable what you are asking for on a non-retail X4 device. It may be more complicated than a single apk file, particularly given how accessing it appears to be integrated into the settings menu rather than accessed through the app drawer.
Good luck!
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I can't seem to find a copy of the firmware for me to attempt this. Search hasn't yielded a viable link that completes the download. Could you link me to where I can grab firmware to attempt extraction?

I know this is off topic but any chance of this feature coming to G5 Plus ?

kkn14 said:
I know this is off topic but any chance of this feature coming to G5 Plus ?
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you're right, it is really off topic. however, to give you an answer, no, there is absolutely no chance of that happening.

bombaglad said:
you're right, it is really off topic. however, to give you an answer, no, there is absolutely no chance of that happening.
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Even with root or a hacked app?
Sorry for OT

kkn14 said:
Even with root or a hacked app?
Sorry for OT
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Please start a thread in the G5 Plus forum, not here. Thanks.

Moto X4 and Tempow (multi speaker sound system) availability
hi all, is Tempow still Moto X4 "Retail" exclusive, or did it get added to "Android One" P build yet?
i'm waiting on Android One version of the Moto X4 to arrive, and from what i've read, it is possible to easily switch between "Retail" and "Android One" OS.
as this thread and a lot of info seems a bit stale, thought i'd check in about Moto X4 and Tempow (multi speaker sound system) availability to start downloading if necessary, thanks.

DiDGR8 said:
Would a request for a copy of this apk from a non-Android One version belong here or in the MOTO X4 THEMES, APPS, AND MODS section? It seems like that's all that should be needed to get the multi-broadcast Bluetooth feature working on an Android One (Project Fi) Moto X4.
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Link of Apk apptized(launch icon)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/10a2JZu9Tc32rjDrBx-05mTgHYD1_QiIn/view?usp=drivesdk

multiple Bluetooth speakers?

Hi,
I was wondering if it could be possible to port a feature from Samsung that allows multiple Bluetooth devices to be connected to the same phone? I don't know if this is something that already is implemented in Pie? Developer options show 'maximum connected Bluetooth devices: 5', so maybe there's something I'm missing?

That's a feature of Bluetooth 5.0. Not sure you can add support for a different Bluetooth version like this at all. Look at the Bluetooth version your phone supports.

gk1984 said:
That's a feature of Bluetooth 5.0. Not sure you can add support for a different Bluetooth version like this at all. Look at the Bluetooth version your phone supports.
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Yes it has Bluetooth 5.0. I'll dig into it. Thank You for Your answer!
Ok so the device has to have the dual audio feature currently on Galaxy s8.
And the peripherals have to be 5.0 as well. So, no dice yet for me.
Someone has made a library:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/19207033/connect-multiple-devices-to-one-device-via-bluetooth