[Q] Bluetooth rSAP support - G 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi folks,
would it anyhow be possible to get bluetooth rsap working by using one of those custom roms or kernels available here ?
I'm pretty satisfied with this phone, but the missing rsap in combination with my car is annoying.
Could anyone help ?
Thanks a lot in advance !

Tsadan said:
Hi folks,
would it anyhow be possible to get bluetooth rsap working by using one of those custom roms or kernels available here ?
I'm pretty satisfied with this phone, but the missing rsap in combination with my car is annoying.
Could anyone help ?
Thanks a lot in advance !
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is rSAP supported by stock rom? If so I can try to get it working on CM based ones.

LuK1337 said:
is rSAP supported by stock rom? If so I can try to get it working on CM based ones.
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No, rSAP is not supported in stock. Searching around in the net showed, that the kernel of the stock rom has been complied without rSAP.
build.prop shows:
Code:
#
# system property for Bluetooth SAP support
# Motorola disabled SAP
#
ro.qualcomm.bluetooth.sap=false
What I was wondering, wouldn't it be possible to just activate what Moto disabled in a custom rom/kernel ?
What else would be missing in an android build to provide access to the SIM by a bluetooth device ?
Best regards
Tsadan

Update for CM13
Hi Guys,
now, just a view days ago I updated my Moto G 2014 to CM13 aka Android 6.
The release of it gave new hope to get SAP support for my phone, as per feature list of Android Marshmallow, SAP is now natively included in Android:
[Quote from Android.com]
<snip>
Connectivity
More power efficient Bluetooth Low Energy (“BLE”) scanning for nearby beacons and your accessories.
Hotspot 2.0: Connect to compatible Wi-Fi networks seamlessly and securely.
Bluetooth SAP: Make calls from your carphone using your phone’s SIM.
Portable Wi-Fi hotspot now supports 5GHz frequency bands.
</snip>
I was a bit disappointed when I noticed, that there seems no option to activate SAP for a bluetooth connection.
My question now would be: Is there now SAP support in CM13 on Moto G 2014 ? When yes, could you give me a hint how to activate it ? When there is actually no support for SAP, is it planned to implement it ?
Thanks in advance, best regards
Tsadan

Tsadan said:
Hi Guys,
now, just a view days ago I updated my Moto G 2014 to CM13 aka Android 6.
The release of it gave new hope to get SAP support for my phone, as per feature list of Android Marshmallow, SAP is now natively included in Android:
[Quote from Android.com]
<snip>
Connectivity
More power efficient Bluetooth Low Energy (“BLE”) scanning for nearby beacons and your accessories.
Hotspot 2.0: Connect to compatible Wi-Fi networks seamlessly and securely.
Bluetooth SAP: Make calls from your carphone using your phone’s SIM.
Portable Wi-Fi hotspot now supports 5GHz frequency bands.
</snip>
I was a bit disappointed when I noticed, that there seems no option to activate SAP for a bluetooth connection.
My question now would be: Is there now SAP support in CM13 on Moto G 2014 ? When yes, could you give me a hint how to activate it ? When there is actually no support for SAP, is it planned to implement it ?
Thanks in advance, best regards
Tsadan
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We aren't planning on implementing SAP and I doubt it's possible as it needs RIL driver support.
Code:
For this profile to work, the RIL driver must allow for this feature
to be used, and it must provide the API needed. The API is based on
protoBuf.

Please check the news on the android-rsap homepage. I found out how to enable rSAP on those Qualcomm phones where it did not work so far.

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does any one know if the XZ supports bluetooth low energy / bluetooth smart?
the reason I ask is that I would like to buy:
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I wound this:
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stefanve said:
Hello,
does any one know if the XZ supports bluetooth low energy / bluetooth smart?
the reason I ask is that I would like to buy:
http://www.zephyranywherestore.com/dp/B009XDTN80
thanks
Edit:
I wound this:
"Hi, regarding BTLE in Xperia Z, it currently supports Bluetooth Low Energy profiles “Generic Attribute Profile Client/Server” and “Proximity Monitor Profile”. And yes, our BT engineers have confirmed that the necessary hardware exists for an update that would support a generic BLE API.
Thanks and best regards,"
Joe from Developer World.
http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...-display-hdr-video-camera-video/#comment-5039
so now I have to figure out if this is enough for the zephyr
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unlock on wifi?

hello, i remember hearing that the original moto G had the ability to disable the passlock when in trusted environments like wifi bluetooth location and such, and this phone only lets you do it with Bluetooth devices i believe? is it possible to have the option to use motorola sip with wifi?
rolgar20 said:
hello, i remember hearing that the original moto G had the ability to disable the passlock when in trusted environments like wifi bluetooth location and such, and this phone only lets you do it with Bluetooth devices i believe? is it possible to have the option to use motorola sip with wifi?
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Hi, I don't think that there is an in built feature to do this, but it can be done with an Xposed module (requires root). http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-lock-home-v0-1-wifi-unlock-t2799087
Rijul.A said:
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There is an inbuilt way for bluetoth devices, but not for wifi.

Android Auto via WiFi

So it was announced today at Google I/O that Android Auto is going to be updated soon to be able to function over Wi-Fi. My 2015 Hyundai Sonata has a Wi-Fi connection. I can connect to any hotspot that I want. So, my question is do you think that the automaker will actually have to support this functionality and make some change in the car or is this all done on Google's side? Obviously, if the car maker has to make a change to support this then I'm guessing it is highly unlikely that existing car models will be updated to support this.
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Moto's Wireless Sound System (Tempow)

Would a request for a copy of this apk from a non-Android One version belong here or in the MOTO X4 THEMES, APPS, AND MODS section? It seems like that's all that should be needed to get the multi-broadcast Bluetooth feature working on an Android One (Project Fi) Moto X4.
Android N doesn't support it. O does. Once the Android One version gets updated to O, probably won't even need the files from the "standard" version.
I'd also be interested about this. Was disappointed to learn this was excluded from the Android One version.
souleman said:
Android N doesn't support it. O does. Once the Android One version gets updated to O, probably won't even need the files from the "standard" version.
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This is not an Oreo feature. It's running on the Retail version now (Nougat). Motorola is calling it "Wireless Sound System". I'm not even entirely sure its a true Bluetooth product. You have to be on a 5 GHz WiFi to use more than one speaker.
DiDGR8 said:
This is not an Oreo feature. It's running on the Retail version now (Nougat). Motorola is calling it "Wireless Sound System". I'm not even entirely sure its a true Bluetooth product. You have to be on a 5 GHz WiFi to use more than one speaker.
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So the Moto version actually needs wifi speakers to work, not Bluetooth?
Bluetooth 5.0 supports multiple speakers, and is part of Android O. So once O is on our device (and you find Bluetooth 5 compliant speakers), then we should have this feature.
That sound better?
souleman said:
So the Moto version actually needs wifi speakers to work, not Bluetooth?
Bluetooth 5.0 supports multiple speakers, and is part of Android O. So once O is on our device (and you find Bluetooth 5 compliant speakers), then we should have this feature.
That sound better?
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Motorola's documentation says that WSS uses BT speakers. It also says the WiFi band in use makes a difference in the number of BT speakers you can connect to.
All I can guess is that 2.4GHz transmissions (BT and WiFi) don't play well together in the SD630's SOC modems. It's really confusing.
Besides, nobody is selling BT 5 speakers yet and I haven't seen anything that mentions multiple speaker support. Longer range, yes. Lower power, yes. If multiple speaker support is included, I've missed it.
souleman said:
So the Moto version actually needs wifi speakers to work, not Bluetooth?
Bluetooth 5.0 supports multiple speakers, and is part of Android O. So once O is on our device (and you find Bluetooth 5 compliant speakers), then we should have this feature.
That sound better?
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Motorola's documentation says that WSS uses BT speakers. It also says the WiFi band in use makes a difference in the number of BT speakers you can connect to.
All I can guess is that 2.4GHz transmissions (BT and WiFi) don't play well together in the SD630's SOC modems. It's really confusing.
Also, NOBODY is selling BT 5 speakers yet that I can find.
It is not an app in the drawer on retail X4 firmware. It is accessed through the Settings menu, in Wireless & networks under 'Wireless Sound System'. Once entered, it reads:
Using Wireless Sound System, you can listen to audio on up to 4 Bluetooth devices individually, or bring them together for a stereo setup.
Wireless Sound System overrides you phone's Bluetooth, so non-audio Bluetooth devices will pause while it's engaged.
This feature works best when your device is connected to Wi-Fi 5.0 GHz networks. You can only connect 1 Bluetooth speaker over Wi-Fi 2.4 GHz networks. Phone call routing is not supported at this time.
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I believe it is the MotoSound.apk in the system A partition (system/priv-app), but I could be wrong. It can be extracted from the 7.1.1. retail firmware posted on that thread, or someone with a retail X4 device could extract it. I am uncertain as to whether this apk alone would be sufficient to enable what you are asking for on a non-retail X4 device. It may be more complicated than a single apk file, particularly given how accessing it appears to be integrated into the settings menu rather than accessed through the app drawer.
Good luck!
8711 said:
It is not an app in the drawer on retail X4 firmware. It is accessed through the Settings menu, in Wireless & networks under 'Wireless Sound System'. Once entered, it reads:
I believe it is the MotoSound.apk in the system A partition (system/priv-app), but I could be wrong. It can be extracted from the 7.1.1. retail firmware posted on that thread, or someone with a retail X4 device could extract it. I am uncertain as to whether this apk alone would be sufficient to enable what you are asking for on a non-retail X4 device. It may be more complicated than a single apk file, particularly given how accessing it appears to be integrated into the settings menu rather than accessed through the app drawer.
Good luck!
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I can't seem to find a copy of the firmware for me to attempt this. Search hasn't yielded a viable link that completes the download. Could you link me to where I can grab firmware to attempt extraction?
I know this is off topic but any chance of this feature coming to G5 Plus ?
kkn14 said:
I know this is off topic but any chance of this feature coming to G5 Plus ?
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you're right, it is really off topic. however, to give you an answer, no, there is absolutely no chance of that happening.
bombaglad said:
you're right, it is really off topic. however, to give you an answer, no, there is absolutely no chance of that happening.
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Even with root or a hacked app?
Sorry for OT
kkn14 said:
Even with root or a hacked app?
Sorry for OT
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Please start a thread in the G5 Plus forum, not here. Thanks.
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as this thread and a lot of info seems a bit stale, thought i'd check in about Moto X4 and Tempow (multi speaker sound system) availability to start downloading if necessary, thanks.
DiDGR8 said:
Would a request for a copy of this apk from a non-Android One version belong here or in the MOTO X4 THEMES, APPS, AND MODS section? It seems like that's all that should be needed to get the multi-broadcast Bluetooth feature working on an Android One (Project Fi) Moto X4.
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Link of Apk apptized(launch icon)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/10a2JZu9Tc32rjDrBx-05mTgHYD1_QiIn/view?usp=drivesdk

multiple Bluetooth speakers?

Hi,
I was wondering if it could be possible to port a feature from Samsung that allows multiple Bluetooth devices to be connected to the same phone? I don't know if this is something that already is implemented in Pie? Developer options show 'maximum connected Bluetooth devices: 5', so maybe there's something I'm missing?
That's a feature of Bluetooth 5.0. Not sure you can add support for a different Bluetooth version like this at all. Look at the Bluetooth version your phone supports.
gk1984 said:
That's a feature of Bluetooth 5.0. Not sure you can add support for a different Bluetooth version like this at all. Look at the Bluetooth version your phone supports.
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Yes it has Bluetooth 5.0. I'll dig into it. Thank You for Your answer!
Ok so the device has to have the dual audio feature currently on Galaxy s8.
And the peripherals have to be 5.0 as well. So, no dice yet for me.
Someone has made a library:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/19207033/connect-multiple-devices-to-one-device-via-bluetooth

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