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alright it is with great pain that i am writing this, but i really need some help here. for months i've read the forums, searched for answers, asked little individual questions, IMed with people directly for help... and i'm still having trouble.
i rooted my T-Mobile G1 all the way back when cupcake first came out. everything was great. life was grand. everything ruled. i was a happy android fanboy, talking friends into switching to android, talking crap about iphones... the works... but slowly things started getting slower and slower and slower...
the obvious thing was to wipe and reflash. i was constantly just updating to newer cyanogen roms at that point without wiping. so i wiped to the newest cyanogen at the time (can't remember at this point, but just picture it was like a couple months after cupcake). so things were good again for a little bit, but then it started slowing down again, getting FC's, etc. so a friend recommended i switch to superD... i did, and again, everything was great for a while. i consistently upgraded superD roms (sometimes wiping in between sometimes not). eventually i got to the point where i was on the most recent superD release. it lasted about a day before things started slowing down. examples include when i hit home to exit an application and go to the home screen, the whole screen would either turn black or just show my wallpaper for a good 5 seconds before my home screen would appear, or opening the browser would take like 10 seconds. lots of slow down.
so with the help of a friend i decided to completely wipe and reformat/repartition my sd card. i bought titanium backup but i didn't even bother with it, i said to myself, look, you barely use any of the stuff you have right now, how about just start fresh and reinstall things as you need them manually. so i formatted, repartitioned (using amon Ra's recovery, using the menu option that helps you do it automatically). i made sure i had the most recent radio and spl (this was just a couple months ago), and reflashed the most recent superD (i think its 1.11 if i remember correctly)... again, maybe one day of good performance before everything slowed down. this was also about the time when my battery life started becoming an issue. i'm not exaggerating when i say i couldn't make it home without breaking under 20% battery by the end of the day... and i really don't use my phone THAT much. i'd say i'm a little above average on my usage. i'll get into my widgets and apps in a second, but i really don't use that much stuff...
SO... continuing my story (thanks for sticking with me if you're still reading...). when cyanogens 2.1 for the g1 rom came out (5.0.8d/s) i decided it was time for a change. i reformatted AGAIN, repartioned AGAIN, and flashed 5.0.8. basically, i've got the same story going on. slowdowns, poor battery life, etc.
so here i am with my cyanogen 5.0.8 flashed g1. let me tell you about apps and widgets and stuff. right now i have a regular wallpaper (not live), 14 icons between my 5 screens and just the google search and power management widgets. i used to have calwidget, the genie widget (both news and weather), and the setcpu widgets too, but i decided to take them off to see if it would help with performance. zero help. apps that i either know for sure are always running or i think may have some impact are twidroyd, newsrob, craigsnotif (craigslist notifier), and dealdroid. i don't think any other apps are running and/or do automatic updates for content and stuff like that.
i also use cachemate (purchased) regularly to clear my caches. apps2sd is enabled.
i'm not sure what other information you'd need to help me out, but just let me know and i'll try to give you more details.
right now, i've got slow down like almost all the time. things are constantly pausing, slowing down. i feel like i'm back on my t-mobile mda with winmo5 haha. and forget about it with the battery. i left the house with 90% battery this morning. i went to the gym. went home. picked up lunch. came to work. its been like 4 hours. i currently have 19% battery. all i've done is make 2 phone calls, about a dozen text messages and i've sent 2 tweets (about my battery problem haha). i also used google maps once to look up a number. my wifi and gps is off.
so there we go. really guys, please please please. help me out if you can. any help would be appreciated. i'm so sick of this. and i'm stuck in contract until july 2011. so i'm not getting a new phone any time soon. i gotta figure this thing out.
i really appreciate your help.
thanks.
Dave
OH... and PS... forgot to mention that I just got a new battery this week thinking maybe the battery was just getting old and bad. obviously, no such luck.
I had the same issues till I flashed a SuperD, then everything was fine. I just recently flashed the Froyo from Cyanogen and its like it fixed everything and I'm on a brand new device (knock on wood)!
How old is your G1? Do we know if there are issues with the first run out of the factory? Is that even an issue?
i got the g1 last july. so it was already out for a while at that point. it was new from a store though. i suppose there could be something actually wrong with the phone itself, but i don't know. i was thinking of trying the cyanogen froyo but because its not a stable release yet i figured it would be just this bad or worse...
I promise cm5.0.8 has wonderful battery life when no custom apps are installed and not on any network..
so the question is what is your phone doing, and ought it be doing what it is doing.
There are some nice built in tools for this
Applications->running services
And
Applications -> manage applications (check out the filter in the menu from that screen)
You may be surprised by the apps the think they need to constantly have a service running for some painful trivial job the android API has better interfaces for.. if in addition to that you don't need the app uninstall it.
Otherwise experiment with comp cache and lock launcher in memory.
another example, as i was reading this i was on the phone and i just finished the call and hung up, and i was previously in text messages, it took 12 seconds for my text messages to come up. thats just insane...
as for running services:
- GTalkService <--- I use GTalk all the time
- GenieRefresh Service (Restarting) <--- weird considering I disabled this widget, although I'd LIKE to have it back
- Maps FriendsAppWidgetUpdater (Restarting) <--- never used this in my life
- NewsRob UnreadWidgetProvidor (Restarting) <--- never used the widget before (as a matter of fact, you have to pay to use the widget and i have the free version... weird)
-Twidroyd Background Service <--- understandable, I use this constantly
- AKNotepad Snaptic Update (Restarting) <---- umm... I use this all the time but I don't know why a notepad program would need an updater service running... interesting...
- Swype <---- gotta have that
- CM Updater (Restarting) <--- Don't really think that needs to be on all the time. Can easily manually refresh that...
So that's it. I didn't realize this was included now. Very cool. On older roms I had to use task managers which don't seem to really work. I'm going to stop everything except twidroyd, gtalk and swype right now and see how that does... at the bottom it says Avail: 3.2MB+0.00B in 0 ... Other: 55MB in 4 ... While typing that the Maps FriendsAppWidget just popped back up... I'm gonna see if theres a setting...
In the meantime, does any of this give you any ideas? thank you so much for the advice. Also what does (Restarting) mean?
ezterry said:
Otherwise experiment with comp cache and lock launcher in memory.
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oh and i have compcache not checked and launcher in memory IS checked... i just tried turning on the compcache option... lets see how that goes...
ok so...
now that i know about those things that were running, i stopped all the ones i don't need, and also went into the apps to see if there was any options for turning off automatic updates, background syncing, etc etc for those things... i'm gonna charge my phone while getting ready to go out and then we'll see how it goes throughout the evening. lets see if i make it home with more than 20% battery left (i'll be gone for like 5 hours). if so then we're on to something here still i find it weird that i can't have a few widgets loaded. but whatever, i'll take a smoothly running phone that lasts all day and i just have to click on icons to get to stuff any day... thanks for the help, i'll let you know how its going tomorrow.
the next day
ok so i tried the compcache and keep launcher in memory options last night, messing with both settings. i found that every possible combination became very unstable other than the one i already had (which was compcache off and launcher in memory on). after trying to shut excessive running services like i mentioned yesterday, and also restarting the phone and then shutting them again, i got NO difference in performance OR battery life...
so back to square one... any ideas guys?
thanks so much for any help you can give me. i really really appreciate it.
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ok so i tried the compcache and keep launcher in memory options last night, messing with both settings. i found that every possible combination became very unstable other than the one i already had (which was compcache off and launcher in memory on). after trying to shut excessive running services like i mentioned yesterday, and also restarting the phone and then shutting them again, i got NO difference in performance OR battery life...
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Um... The compcache instability scares me a bit
Compcache has had issues (maybe still does) where the first time you enable it the phone crashes.. but then works fine with Compcache on reboot. Otherwise it really ought no make the phone unstable. (it may or may not speed things up depending on how memory is being used.. usually however it allows 12MB of memory that is rarely used to be compressed, allowing a little more active memory to be utilized) You may want to look into wiping dalvik-cache both on the internal memory and SD card:
Enter console and run (this will restart the phone)
Code:
rm -rf /data/dalvik-cache/*
rm -rf /cache/dalvik-cache/*
rm -rf /sd-ext/dalvik-cache/*
reboot
if you get an error about no files found thats not an issue; but other errors may indicate a problem.
This may help system stability (with or without compcache) .. but won't do anything about the battery life (nor speed unless something was seriously wrong)
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Unfortunately you will either need to erase all your apps and just run stock CM5 [maybe slowly restore your apps you really need] -- OR -- be very patient and debug whatever application(s) are causing issues on your phone (and maybe complain to the dev for failing to read/understand google's documentation on how to write android applications.. not that some of the google apps haven't quite figured that out until recently)
Thus again the main question is what is running on your phone.. The places I mentioned before allow you to see the services (most of which usually restart if you run the related application again) but not strictly all the details to look for.
Example 1 An widget service is likely holding onto memory starving timer services (those not listed) and swapping out other services (phone/launcher making everything feel slow) At the same time the widget is not very active usually and may not connect to the internet at all; thus may not reduce battery life.
Example 2 An IM client on the other hand may requires a service to keep TCP/IP connections alive, and if not coded properly may be very persistent and cause a slow continual stream of data from your phone requiring a large amount of power to keep the phone on 2G/Edge.
Example 3 A Task killer an kill tasks that re-spawn, or kill a task in use if it doesn't know better causing things to behave in strange ways.. so can killing services/applications from the setting screens btw.. but at least that is a one off by user decision not a automatic operation in the background. Tasks when re-spawned may require more data from the internet thus more power to 2G/Edge
User: Then the one that causes me the most problems: A user that keeps the phone in his/her pocket rather than surfing the web, checking XDA, or continuously checking the battery level is using the device less thus will have longer battery life. (careful to not fall into this trap)
Other Ideas:
SetCPU: set the sleep CPU low in profiles (sleep for me is 245/160)[/*]
Verify End action: Settings->End Button Behavior->Go to sleep[/*]
Set longer periods between polls in applications that poll the net (example twitter every 10 or 20mins.. not 5)[/*]
Larger net transfers on wifi if available (example tell newsrob to sync on wifi only) wifi drains the battery faster than idle, but is much cheaper if larger amounts of data are involved.[/*]
As you can see many things will impact the system. You will need to find the ones eating your battery
Another helpful screen for debugging this may be Settings->Spare Parts->Battery History and Settings->Spare Parts->Usage Statistics
I get between 4h and 12h batter life under semi-normal conditions. 4h = surfing 3g + tappatalk + games.. 12h check email/tweat if i get one.. otherwise stays in my pocket. I've seen my test phone hang out for days on a 2g network without data. (so you can always set your apn type to mms if you just need it to be a phone for many hours.. mms keeps mms support btw)
Ebuddy (and most other MSN/AIM/ect chat clients is frequently one of the biggest problems on my phone.. so if I need more battery those are the first to go.. and whomever it is can poke me on gtalk/txt/or wait
Good luck in your search.. Took me a while to make cm5 work as long as cm4.. most of it was mis-behaving apps that I either know to shut off when I need longer battery life.. or have found replacements for.. or avoid widget functionality if the widget was misconfigured. (
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Out of the blue my Bionic just started rebooting. 8-10 time per day, who knows how may time at night. I am using the stock ROM. I am looking for a stable ROM that I can use to fix the problem. I also have the problem of disapearing apps that I move to the ext card.
Feedback on possible cures will be welcomed.
I just experienced my first unexpected reboot. It was after plugging in my USB to my computer.
This seems like the sort of thing that would have a 50% chance of being related to your hardware, and a 50% chance of an unstable app screwing something up. The stock software is at least stable enough that it's not very likely to be the cause of your issues, and flashing another ROM (which will have the same kernel) won't help if it is a hardware issue.
A factory reset followed by staggered reinstallation of apps (one or two at a time, to see if one in particular might be causing issues) would be my first step for a problem as extreme as random reboots. The next step is through warranty channels. I might even do that first- I don't think I could put up with a phone that rebooted on me.
And the cure for disappearing apps is to not use media area for storage. The phone dedicates 4gb for apps, that should be more than enough until they patch a fix.
i may have to add that my phone was completely stable until i purchased and installed the extended battery then i started to experience reboots and a few locks here and there.
i did a few factory reset on the stock but the phone was still acting up with the new battery.
i then decided to root and run roms and to be frank no locks and or reboots running the same battery that seemed to be causing the problems based on that being the only change to my phone before the reboot and locks.
i am not saying that there is something there with the stock as there would be more reports on this but rooting and going back to stock is a single click now making it a fast process to trouble shoot the software.
i am experiencing a bad or short life with the extended so in my case it could have been the battery screwing up the reads on the software (guess) but the first 3 charge from full to dead just about 3 days after that same extended only last one day.
in general it seemed that my issue could have been a bad battery and wiping data and playing with roms may had help but in the end i will be calling verizon for a battery replacement as i doubt that in two weeks the battery charge for an extended could only last 1 day of medium use.
sorry long response and by no means i'm i encouraging to root and rom just speaking out of my experience.
Hi - first post here. After 4 Thunderbolts - Verizon sent me a Bionic. Much better however, after rooting with 43v3r and de-bloating with The Black Hat App - I'm having random reboots. Initially, the reboots were several times per day increasing in frequency to several times an hour. Y u c k - My Thunderbolt could do that too.
So in troubleshooting:
1 - I've reverted to stock build - no add'l apps: No reboots in 48 hours. So - I doubt it's hardware.
2- After reverting - I then rooted w/43v3R, then debloated - just using stock apps - no reboots in 24 hours. So, I really doubt it's debloating or rooting
3 - After adding a few apps - Stitcher, Enhanced email, SVOX w/voice, Beautiful Widgets (w/clock selected) - I get a reboot.
4 - Remove everything but stitcher. No reboots - 24 hours.
5 - Add Enhanced Email yesterday
Today, I had a reboot.
6 - So culprit 'looks' like Enhanced Email OR perhaps a switching problem between 3/4g (The Thunderbolt - Stitcher used to drop connection in this particular location so, there IS an issue w/3G-4G.
Questions:
1 - If it's not a 3g/4g issue; could it be related to where Enhanced email or Stitcher chooses to install itself?
2 - Is there a log somewhere where I could find 'boot' times and any issues relating to reboots? Like a 'minidump' in Windows...
thanks
I, too, have started having unexpected reboots. I can't pinpoint it exactly, but I have also recently isntalled Enhanced Email (trial version).
Reboot Logger
Hey Google is our friend - don't know why I didn't look before but I found this in Android Market.
"Reboot Logger" by Watanabe,Masayuki.
Just installed it - will report back after Thanksgiving (in the U.S. - Thursday)...
(I would post a link but I'm a noob here - and, now I know why I hate myself.)
Looks like promising -
Have yall installed any themes or different battery icons, or anything like that to yours? Mine is 43v3R rooted with the liberty romv2. I was changing a cpl of the icons and experienced a reboot just out of the blue. I got rid of the icons I changed and stayed with the icons that came with the liberty rom and have no issues at all. I do not have enhanced mail on mine.
most bionics will turn off and wont turn back on till you do a battery pull. Its a known issue, all you have to do is google it and it turns up. From what ive read putting the battery on performance mode and putting on detect in pocket will help. Personally it doesnt help, i had the issue with the stock battery so purchased a extended thinking it was the battery, but after doing research i found out it isnt. They say the new OTA should fix it
icons - reboot logger
Thanks - haven't changed any icons BUT I am using HTC Thunderbolt wallpaper. I had a Thunderbolt that had a reboot problem until the OTA before Gingerbread - Verizon offered me the Bionic when I called about my Thunderbolt issues (I had three replacements - all with the same issues).
I will try different wallpaper -
Reboot logger works well but doesn't offer a clue as to what is causing the reboots. Mine has rebooted 2-3 times per day since I installed Reboot Logger(RL).
3 times a day is tolerable but, I would like to get to the bottom of what's causing it.
What IS helpful with RL is that it does show that the reboots are not occuring in any obvious time sequence.
They may be related to push emails coming in from my Exchange server. Not sure - I'll post more as I learn more. Hopefully the upcoming OTA will fix - though my experience with HTC's OTAs does not give me a lot of hope.
Update - Last night, I uninstalled Stitcher - Stitcher frequently throws errors requiring a FORCE CLOSE. I also have kept Blueooth off.
No reboots in 24 hours -
Will reinstall Stitcher in the morning (I need it at the gym)...
Update tomorrow/Monday
Turned Bluetooth ON - no reboots in 36 hours so, It looks like Stitcher may be the culprit - I wonder if Stitcher has issue with the internal/external SD storage scheme.
As I noted previously, Stitcher reports 'force closes' frequently - especially when it's not even active (when I have not loaded it or used it).
(No sooner than I posted this - my phone rebooted. And again, and again will switch off BT - I'm in my office so, there's could be an issue with 3g/4g switching or other interference...)
Have you tried setting the phone to run strictly 3g? I have had no issues at all with mine jumping back and forth between 3g/4g.. I leave mine on 3g to keep it from trying to search for a 4g signal. I never turn bluetooth on, nor do I ever really use the compass. hmmmm... Can you tell me everything you have done to the phone. Apps you have installed, what ROM you using, if you have .886/.893 etc? I'm willing to see how close we are as for as how our phone's are setup and help as much as I can. I have not had a single issue with mine other then that one reboot after changing the battery icon.
After nearly two weeks of monitoring restarts - it appears that the problem is more related to where I am. At my home, restarts are rare and related to Stitcher.
At work in Beverly Hills, CA; restarts occur frequently. I assume it has something to do with 3g/4G switchover/crossover or interference.
I had lots of problems with the Thunderbolt dropping data connections in 90210. I could not use the hotspot. On the Bionic, the hotspot functions really well. I've used it up north near Fresno in 3G only land, here in BH and at home where I have decent 4G coverage.
When I remove Stitcher, the reboot problem disappears. Sometimes when I 'wake' the phone, there is a dialog apologizing for Stitcher having 'force closed' even if I haven't used it for days. Market reviews indicate anecdotally that Stitcher has a problem with force closes. This behavior must also be at the root of some of the reboots.
I've also set all programs not to update automatically - this may have reduced the reboots as well. On average, I'm getting 2-3 reboots per day. More than I would like but, tolerable.
Good evening,
This is not just another "QQ my battery is bad" topic but I have searched without proper succes for my question so here goes.
Yes my battery sucks ever since I updated it to Mango.
Now people are suggesting to do all kinds of things like turning off the auto email receiving option every time one comes in and turning off Wifi etc..
Tried this without succes.
Then I see people suggesting a Hard Reset of the device, so I decided to go for that option (used the one where you press up - down + power on)
BUT my question now is, what to do after to improve your battery (like people suggested) cause you're left with 2 options.
- Restoring a previous backup from Zune
- Updating and installing every single thing over again (and with that configuring as well)
If you guys have tried either of these or know which is the best option (and please not just answers like "option B looks more plausible, thats the best!") please do share!
Cause honestly, unplugging for school at 7AM and dead battery at 6PM, and having opened apps for like an hour max (+ 1h music/zune) is just silly (dont even have Wifi / auto email sync / apps in background (except HTC hub) on)
Thanks in advance!
well i had the same problem too, i full charged my phone and when i removed it to look at the estimated time remaining it was 4 hours ..
so what i did was :
- go to settings --> background tasks --> advanced
check if one of the running application you recently installed .. i started uninstalling one by one .. every time i uninstall one of them i turn screen of wait 10 sec and open it again and look at the estimated time i found 1-2 hours increase .. keep doing it till you find which application consumes a lot of battery ( i think its due to bad code or something )
i hope it helps
Well it helps a bit gonna have to try that out unless someone comes up with a better solution for the time being.
So basically what you're saying is that its better to reset and let it update / install apps again and see if that helps (seeing I had 2 options after my reset rly; took the restore for the moment)
Although what I didnt really get is why to open background tasks, cause there is nothing but HTC HUB on in there, the rest is either off or just not in there as it doesnt support those tasks I assume.
Anyway thanks for that, hope more people have advice like that!
my question now is, what to do after resetting (like people suggested) cause you're left with 2 options.
- Restoring a previous backup from Zune
- Updating and installing every single thing over again (and with that configuring as well)
(anyone?)
Hello forum:
Im a doctor resident in training so i dont know a lot of the technical language you would use...I'd really appriciate it if someone could help me wiht my wakelocks....ive almost given up and if this forum doesnt solve it im throwing it away...
I have a S3 i9305 LTE...just rooted it the rest it all stock, ROM and kernal (JB 4.1.2 on BLL5)
I had this MASSIVE battery drain by the fastdormancy but i solved that by rooting and installing the toogle switch for i9300 (works for the i9305 too mercifully) so solved that....just as i heived a sigh of relief then crops up the
1) audioOut_2 wakelock
2) GTALK_ASYNC_CONN_com.google.android.gsf.gtalkservi ce.AndroidEndpoint wakelock
3) PowerManagerService
4) mdm_hsic_pm0
5) RILS
thats what the BBS says...and on the side if somebody could help me with the scroll lag as well. surprising that this phone has mosr power than the combine used to send man to the moon and it cant scroll smoothly! samsung is an utter nut-head for making phones that aren't useable for the common guy.
this is really a HUGE problem for me cause i get calls at all hours of the day. I went home after 30h shift and fell asleep on the couch. i had about 50% batt so i though i had enough and my battery dies somewhere in the heavenly sleep i was in...my prof kept calling me and i missed out on a surgery and he was absolutly mental with me (not that i blame him)...so you see I cant have this happening to me again. Im forced to carry the charger around everywhere i go and its a matter of time before i lose my phone leaving it around. Please help and be simple.
contingent to helping, everyone is a hero!
EDIT: So heres what ive been able to work out so far...
i flashed varioud ROMs and not all are the same...my suggestion is to try different ROMs and especially of your in a bad connection area and have sync wakelocks my advice is flash a different kernel (list of i9305 compatible kernels available here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2206898 goto the baseband/modem section). in my case my stock modem was LLB5 and it was horrible...i flashed BMD1 and i get full signals all over the hospital! this should help reduce the sync wakelocks esp like google's to a good degree...just remember not all modems and kernels work for everyone...thats just a hit and miss...you'll have to figure that out on your own....one phone may vary from the other...
The other thing esp if your phone heats up a lot on the most trivial tasks i highly recomment flashing a different kernel....again the list is available in the same post linked earlier...i had persues 36.2 work a bit esp with undervolting but not where i wanted it to be...so my plesent surprise i flashed the latest stock kernel and i dont even get the slightest bit of warmth anymore! that was a big surprise since i was told over and over that a quadcore will always heat up.
as for the battery try different ROMs...im currently using X-power by smaberg....it lasts me about a day and a half with approx 6h of screen time...i dont use it for gaming so you might have a varied preformace.
I doubt some wakelocks eg the audioout_2 wakelock cause the wake times dont add up with the audioout_2 lock....they do if you exclude it....like wise the download manager wakelock is the same thing, somehting is downloading in the background like a fix etc....
I'll keep posting if i make more breakthroughs....
EDIT:
FASTDORMANCY wakelock:
Im going to keep this short; fast_dormancy is for 3G only (maybe also lte) and its some over the top thing. more info by erica griffin on youtube. suffice it to say that if you install fastdormancy toggle by gokhanmohal from the app store you can easily switch it off. works for the i9305 as well. requires root.
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this is really a HUGE problem for me cause i get calls at all hours of the day. I went home after 30h shift and fell asleep on the couch. i had about 50% batt so i though i had enough and my battery dies somewhere in the heavenly sleep i was in...my prof kept calling me and i missed out on a surgery and he was absolutly mental with me (not that i blame him)...so you see I cant have this happening to me again. Im forced to carry the charger around everywhere i go and its a matter of time before i lose my phone leaving it around. Please help and be simple.
contingent to helping, everyone is a hero!
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I get around 2-3 days with the standard battery, 4-5 days with a 4300 mAh and 6-10 days with the 7000 mAh zerolemon (the bigger numbers are for scenarios where I only use the device strictly as phone - no games, no hours on internet).
The tricks that I use on the standard i9300:
- custom ROM, very little bloatware (I still keep the Samsung stuff that is to be used in case of lost/stolen phone, but no longer the free Avast - which is vastly superior for that purpose but the i9300 only has 1 GB of RAM)
- power-saving mode activated at all times when a serious game is not playing (this basically keeps max CPU at 1 GHz and is more than enough for anything on normal use; this also is very effective on stock kernel - on custom kernels it is less important, but on stock it is essential)
- every app and widget is set NOT to automatically refresh (or to refresh very rare and only on WiFi - my provider sucks on data plans)
- I use the toggles a lot and I keep stuff started only when I really need/use it - especially cellular data and wifi
- also greenify seems to help a little ; I also keep some stuff frozen with Titanium backup
- another thing that helps is a good custom kernel - on i9300 I use Siyah, Perseus and now GoogyMax - but you must be very careful with kernels since the image for i9305 is always different than the one for i9300
- if you want ultra-fast UI I would recommend Apex launcher (kept locked in memory) and exDialer (also kept locked in memory).
xclub_101 said:
I get around 2-3 days with the standard battery, 4-5 days with a 4300 mAh and 6-10 days with the 7000 mAh zerolemon (the bigger numbers are for scenarios where I only use the device strictly as phone - no games, no hours on internet).
The tricks that I use on the standard i9300:
- custom ROM, very little bloatware (I still keep the Samsung stuff that is to be used in case of lost/stolen phone, but no longer the free Avast - which is vastly superior for that purpose but the i9300 only has 1 GB of RAM)
- power-saving mode activated at all times when a serious game is not playing (this basically keeps max CPU at 1 GHz and is more than enough for anything on normal use; this also is very effective on stock kernel - on custom kernels it is less important, but on stock it is essential)
- every app and widget is set NOT to automatically refresh (or to refresh very rare and only on WiFi - my provider sucks on data plans)
- I use the toggles a lot and I keep stuff started only when I really need/use it - especially cellular data and wifi
- also greenify seems to help a little ; I also keep some stuff frozen with Titanium backup
- another thing that helps is a good custom kernel - on i9300 I use Siyah, Perseus and now GoogyMax - but you must be very careful with kernels since the image for i9305 is always different than the one for i9300
- if you want ultra-fast UI I would recommend Apex launcher (kept locked in memory) and exDialer (also kept locked in memory).
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Thanks a lot for the prompt reply...
i do use nova launcher prime....honestly other than the sauce-e-ness i think the touch wiz is about as fast.
I dont have apps on auto update....infact ive never used my gmail via the app on the phone...i check it via the browser. i have twitter but all the options are on manual updates only.
I dont use wifi unless i have to (which is quite to a minimum) cause im always on the move and routers are password protected. i dont even use the 3G (the reason for toggling off the fast dormancy) only GPRS, which is on all the time for whatsapp.
Ill try the greenify and the power saving mode...thanks for that.
Now for the kernel and rom...i love having the toogle switchs and the brightness on the notification bar...i dont want to loose those. I dont want to change the rom and kernel unless i reallly have to, so ill maybe hold on that for now. But is there a way i can maybe just turn the locks off or better yet fix them is its possible...
I miss my BlackBerry days.....so simple were the times!
aejazhaq said:
Thanks a lot for the prompt reply...
i do use nova launcher prime....honestly other than the sauce-e-ness i think the touch wiz is about as fast.
I dont have apps on auto update....infact ive never used my gmail via the app on the phone...i check it via the browser. i have twitter but all the options are on manual updates only.
I dont use wifi unless i have to (which is quite to a minimum) cause im always on the move and routers are password protected. i dont even use the 3G (the reason for toggling off the fast dormancy) only GPRS, which is on all the time for whatsapp.
Ill try the greenify and the power saving mode...thanks for that.
Now for the kernel and rom...i love having the toogle switchs and the brightness on the notification bar...i dont want to loose those. I dont want to change the rom and kernel unless i reallly have to, so ill maybe hold on that for now. But is there a way i can maybe just turn the locks off or better yet fix them is its possible...
I miss my BlackBerry days.....so simple were the times!
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The Apex/Nova performance should be rather similar - I only mentioned Apex in the context of the 'slow drawing" that you mentioned initially. For that one you should also force GPU rendering, set animation delay to 0.5x (double speed), eventually test with and without hardware overlays.
Unfortunately there always are apps on auto-update (maps, taks/hangouts, play store, weather widgets and so on). Facebok is really, really bad - I always freeze that one in Titanium Backup. Also Twitter is said to create problems under certain conditions - but I never use that (and I also freeze this one).
aejazhaq said:
Thanks a lot for the prompt reply...
i do use nova launcher prime....honestly other than the sauce-e-ness i think the touch wiz is about as fast.
I dont have apps on auto update....infact ive never used my gmail via the app on the phone...i check it via the browser. i have twitter but all the options are on manual updates only.
I dont use wifi unless i have to (which is quite to a minimum) cause im always on the move and routers are password protected. i dont even use the 3G (the reason for toggling off the fast dormancy) only GPRS, which is on all the time for whatsapp.
Ill try the greenify and the power saving mode...thanks for that.
Now for the kernel and rom...i love having the toogle switchs and the brightness on the notification bar...i dont want to loose those. I dont want to change the rom and kernel unless i reallly have to, so ill maybe hold on that for now. But is there a way i can maybe just turn the locks off or better yet fix them is its possible...
I miss my BlackBerry days.....so simple were the times!
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How's your signal strength? If you have a crappy signal(and I assume you do because most hospitals I've been to have crappy signals) it really messes with your battery uptime.
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davtse said:
How's your signal strength? If you have a crappy signal(and I assume you do because most hospitals I've been to have crappy signals) it really messes with your battery uptime.
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Yeah sigal strength isnt excellent but i get all bars nost of the times...ive enabled the force GPU rendering and the hardware overlay....i read somewhere that the hardware overlay saves rom cause it creates seperate channels for the GPU processing each app seperatly rather than sharing a pooled ram space...i noticed less RAM being used after that so i left it on...as for the scroll lag i turned on the GPU did wonders for the scroll...not the gallery though but i think that might be because im on a class2 card...
For the others that may read this about the wakelock fastdormancy, I had the same issue but i fixed it....luckily the other tutorial out there was to code your way out of the wakelock but for someone like me (and i consider myself fairly well interms of following instructions) the tutorial way a crashcorse in jibberish! understood nothign not to say in the least wasted my time....thought im sure it does what it says....
MY ADVICE ON FASTDORMANCY is that you guys head over to youutbe and search for : "fastdormancy erica griffin" shes got a tutorial that explains what it is in the first 5 mins and in the last 5 she tell you how to spot if ur carrier provider has it and how to turn if off THE EASY WAY without coding!!!!! so cheers to that
HEADS UP: shes using a i9300 and the play store software is also labelled "fastdormancy toogle switch for i9300" but rest assured it works for the i9305 (atleast it did on mine thankfully) REQUIRES A ROOT though....but if ur rooted that itll take max 15mins to turn it off
say thanks if it helped you out....its the least you can do!
Fast dormancy is activated within each networks CSC settings .
Yes the I9300 Faqs and What is Fast Dormancy posts say turn it off unless your network supports it .
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You mentioned AudioOut_2. Do you have Viber installed? For scrolling, well I don't have a problem with that, or with performance at all. This smartphone is super fast. Now a little basic education; you have a computer in your pocket with a lot of different services and apps installed, and not all of them are built equally well. Theoretically any of those apps can be a problem in your configuration. That can happen even to super computers. So it doesn't have to be a Samsung's or phone's fault. Though Samsung puts a lot of bloatware, but you are free to remove it and tweak your device as a power user . You have already rooted your 9305 . Now remove all sh* you don't use/need, install a custom kernel like Perseus or Boefla, OC a little and tweak your phone for performance. In settings under developer options section, force GPU rendering. Maybe try disabling hardware overlays, but just try. It will depend on a lot of things if it is going to help actually.
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And to go back to your battery again, the problem is probably one or more of your apps. You cannot have a bunch of viber like apps running in the background 0-24 and have a low battery drain. Viber is one of the worst I had on this phone, GN2 and Galaxy Nexus. It was draining the battery like crazy with the AudioOut_2 process. Also if you have opportunity, use wireless instead of mobile provider internet. That will save your battery too.
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Also when you can, turn off the mobile data, or better turn on the airplane mode. For example, if you are going to sleep, and you don't have to answer to no one in first 3 h of sleep, turn on the airplane mode, and alarm, wake up, and turn of the airplane mode, continue sleeping . You'll do that only if you are really desperate to get the most of the battery of course.
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Turn off location services, if you don't use them. Turn off auto location in weather widgets, if you use them. Turn off motions.
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You mentioned AudioOut_2. Do you have Viber installed? For scrolling, well I don't have a problem with that, or with performance at all. This smartphone is super fast. Now a little basic education; you have a computer in your pocket with a lot of different services and apps installed, and not all of them are built equally well. Theoretically any of those apps can be a problem in your configuration. That can happen even to super computers. So it doesn't have to be a Samsung's or phone's fault. Though Samsung puts a lot of bloatware, but you are free to remove it and tweak your device as a power user . You have already rooted your 9305 . Now remove all sh* you don't use/need, install a custom kernel like Perseus or Boefla, OC a little and tweak your phone for performance. In settings under developer options section, force GPU rendering. Maybe try disabling hardware overlays, but just try. It will depend on a lot of things if it is going to help actually.
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And to go back to your battery again, the problem is probably one or more of your apps. You cannot have a bunch of viber like apps running in the background 0-24 and have a low battery drain. Viber is one of the worst I had on this phone, GN2 and Galaxy Nexus. It was draining the battery like crazy with the AudioOut_2 process. Also if you have opportunity, use wireless instead of mobile provider internet. That will save your battery too.
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Also when you can, turn off the mobile data, or better turn on the airplane mode. For example, if you are going to sleep, and you don't have to answer to no one in first 3 h of sleep, turn on the airplane mode, and alarm, wake up, and turn of the airplane mode, continue sleeping . You'll do that only if you are really desperate to get the most of the battery of course.
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Turn off location services, if you don't use them. Turn off auto location in weather widgets, if you use them. Turn off motions.
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So i tried it last night with the data off...blimy was i surprised! i lost only 2% over night...approx 6h!!! thats was mind numbing!!!! so i think its safe to say that the problem is an app thats connecting all the time...i have most apps greeneefied...but accourding to the BBS the network usage is by android (OS and the system) mostly...how do i turn that off???
Ive already turned off all the location services and nothing is on auto sync or autorefresh...hardly any of the apps i installed are showing up int he network tab in BBS...just a quick question what should i pay more attention to, the total time awake or the number of wakelocks or the numebr of times waking the device (im also using GSam battery monitor...i think its got a better UI and equally good monitoring as BBS)
No i dont have viper or skype or anythign like that...the only thing i have is whatsapp...you think the problems will go away if i chenge the kernel/ROM?
Usually the most important tab from BBS is partial wakelocks. Total time awake is important, it tells you that your phone spends a lot of time awake for example, but in order to find out why, you usually check partial wakelocks. There you look for wakelocks who take a lot of time. If disabling data helped that much, you probably have a bad reception. At home you don't need mobile data, you probably have wireless network, so use that. I don't think changing kernel will help. Changing ROM maybe. ICS ROMs were using less power than Jelly Bean.
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Regarding network usage, how much is that mostly? If you are connected to any network, there has to be some network activity because of the network protocols alone.
!crazy said:
Usually the most important tab from BBS is partial wakelocks. Total time awake is important, it tells you that your phone spends a lot of time awake for example, but in order to find out why, you usually check partial wakelocks. There you look for wakelocks who take a lot of time. If disabling data helped that much, you probably have a bad reception. At home you don't need mobile data, you probably have wireless network, so use that. I don't think changing kernel will help. Changing ROM maybe. ICS ROMs were using less power than Jelly Bean.
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Regarding network usage, how much is that mostly? If you are connected to any network, there has to be some network activity because of the network protocols alone.
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I dont use the mobile data a lot mainly whatsapp to communicate with friends in other countries...i could leave it to wifi when im home but in the hospital a lot of them are passowrd protected and i move around a lot from floor to floor so i dont think that will be feasible...im perplexed that network activity alone would cause such a drain!!!
do you think if i turned system updates off that might help? i doubt it since on wifi there arnt much wakelocks outside my screen time...
and another quick question s3 (i9300) has a lot of custom kernels and roms but i see that i9305 not as many and i can obviously use the former for the latter but which is the best kernel/ROM for i9305 for a smooth and fast experiernce....I really love the notification toggle buttons on the stock ROM and i saw that null ROM has it but there isnt a i9305 version
!crazy said:
Usually the most important tab from BBS is partial wakelocks. Total time awake is important, it tells you that your phone spends a lot of time awake for example, but in order to find out why, you usually check partial wakelocks. There you look for wakelocks who take a lot of time. If disabling data helped that much, you probably have a bad reception. At home you don't need mobile data, you probably have wireless network, so use that. I don't think changing kernel will help. Changing ROM maybe. ICS ROMs were using less power than Jelly Bean.
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Regarding network usage, how much is that mostly? If you are connected to any network, there has to be some network activity because of the network protocols alone.
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I dont use the mobile data a lot mainly whatsapp to communicate with friends in other countries...i could leave it to wifi when im home but in the hospital a lot of them are passowrd protected and i move around a lot from floor to floor so i dont think that will be feasible...im perplexed that network activity alone would cause such a drain!!!
do you think if i turned system updates off that might help? i doubt it since on wifi there arnt much wakelocks outside my screen time...
and another quick question s3 (i9300) has a lot of custom kernels and roms but i see that i9305 not as many and i can obviously use the former for the latter but which is the best kernel/ROM for i9305 for a smooth and fast experiernce....I really love the notification toggle buttons on the stock ROM and i saw that null ROM has it but there isnt a i9305 version
This is mine on rooted stock. Played with nearly all cus roms but cant get close to better than this so for me stock all the way!
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Yep and battery time too!
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aejazhaq said:
I dont use the mobile data a lot mainly whatsapp to communicate with friends in other countries...i could leave it to wifi when im home but in the hospital a lot of them are passowrd protected and i move around a lot from floor to floor so i dont think that will be feasible...im perplexed that network activity alone would cause such a drain!!!
do you think if i turned system updates off that might help? i doubt it since on wifi there arnt much wakelocks outside my screen time...
and another quick question s3 (i9300) has a lot of custom kernels and roms but i see that i9305 not as many and i can obviously use the former for the latter but which is the best kernel/ROM for i9305 for a smooth and fast experiernce....I really love the notification toggle buttons on the stock ROM and i saw that null ROM has it but there isnt a i9305 version
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Yes, modem uses more power then wireless in normal circumstances, but when the reception is poor it can drain the battery almost like screen.
Regarding performance, try Boefla or Perseus kernels with stock based ROMs, but remove all stuff you don't need. You can search for 'apps safe to remove ob S3' or similar.
Use one of leaner launchers. I like Nova, but you can try something leaner.
so i finally figured out most of the wakelocks....the gtalk is really acting up...apparently when i disable the google framework services in the apps the wakelock disappeares altogeather! but you cant work the play store or gmail without that....what do i do? any updates for that available maybe they have fixed it?
btw i tried a new ROM the x_power rom...its much better in terms of battery life and equally smooth, more customisable and so far i think im loving it more than the touchwiz.....but unfortunatly i still have the wakelocks...alas! im tired of all this!
anyway can i turn off the android system and android OS communicating (with God knows whom) through my internet permenently? im tired of it and thts the problem behind my wakeloacks (atleast some of them)
thanks
You have said that when you disable mobile data things get better? Now I don't get this, why wakelocks are there only when mobile data are used instead of wireless?
Further, having wakelocks is perfectly normal, it depends on how much CPU time they are taking.
If you want you can use Rom Toolbox Pro, or System Tuner Pro or even a file browser to remove system apps you think to cause a problem, after you are sure the system works ok when they are disabled (frozen).
With apps like I have just mentioned, you can freeze (permanently disable, until you defrost them.) talk or hangouts or even framework to check how it works. Then if it's ok for you, remove them completely.
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But if disabling mobile data helps, and you don't need them all the time (the connection sucks where you are in hospital, so you have no use of it anyway.) why not just doing that, disabling data when you are at work?
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And yes, regarding 'with God know whom' in order for connection to be active, the protocol needs to exchange some data, so that you can receive new messages for example etc. But yes, some other things could happen too . For example a couple of months ago, or even a year, a guy from Germany traced the packages of Samsung's voice app (I forgot the name, since I am not using/having it.) to NSA or something like that servers.
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Have you updated gtalks to hangout and see if the wake lock persists ?
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no i havnt updated to hangouts instead of google talk...i had that frozen for awhile but found out htat the gtalk wakelock wasnt by the talk app but by google services (apparently including the play store and gmail etc)
but ill give it a go and see where things go....
Samsung updating to NSA? what the what?!? im perplexed and bewildered!
yeah i dont have the waklocks on wifi or when i restrict the data connection in the setting menu...someone pointed out it might by the relentless attempts to the tower by the phone so i think that shots down that theory...oh by the way i turned off the data connection one night and left the wifi on and to my utter surprise i lost only 1% total battery in the night! now thats what i call preformance!!!! so i think 2 days on a single charge and good use isnt out of ambition alone..
i read a post by some guy (on XDA link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=221339) hes getting round 9 hours of battery life and another one who says 10hours thought this one is a more mature dev i think... for the life of me id pay them to help me get that preformance!!!
the wakelocks are approx over an hour with only 3-ish hours of screen time total between charges....i think for that little use and hour of wakeup time is a bit excessive...but its begining to really tick me off....ill try undervolting....but for now my biggest enemy are the activitymanager_launch , and the GTLK_ASYNCCONN and another new one taht popped up with this new custom rom the EM/android_talk638c986c851e....
oh by the way whenever i charge my phone stays awake despite screen off....that not only heats up the phone whenever i pick it up but also slows dows charging...like i said my schedule is very tight all the time and i need approx 3-4h for a full charge from 10%...thats messed up...
can we get a dev in here?
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My Original Post:
Phone runs hot. No deep sleep. High cpu usage from AndroidSystem app. Sometimes screen doesn't turn off after pressing power button. Phone runs slow.
All of this happen after any GPS data request from any app that can use device only gps data.
When GPS is off with a fresh boot, there is no problem.
When gps is turned on but not any data requested from it, there is no problem.
If you turn on device only gps and start using a gps app. CPU usage goes abnormally high and never falls down even after force closing the gps app and gps itself. Only a reboot turns the phone to normal.
Another thread I've found describing the same problem without solution:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/94185-gps-bug-phone-unstable/
I've tested:
cm-11-20140916-SNAPSHOT-M10-p880
cm-11-20150517-NIGHTLY-p880
cm-11-20150524-NIGHTLY-p880
Euphoria-OS-1.1-p880-UNOFFICIAL-20150516
Euphoria-OS-1.1-p880-UNOFFICIAL-20150529
aosplp-20150423-p880
MK44.4-p880-150131-HISTORY (Mokee History)
LS-KK-v3.2-2014-10-14-p880 (Mourta Ed. with kernel 3.4)
LS-LP-v4.0-2015-03-27-liquid_p880 (Mourta Hybrid Kernel 3.4)
BeanStalk-4.4.4050-20140905-p880CMAD
Kernels:
Optimus_Prime_CM11-V3.0
iodakX3_v10_CM
WWJB_v009_anykernel-20140429
WWJB_v010_anykernel-2014-12-24_1303
I've tried listed roms and kernels with required wipe operations switching between them.
I've rebooted several times after installation and didn't give up in first boot.
I have CWM Official v6.0.4.5 as recovery.
Tried different governors and schedulers. No luck.
I'm using the phone with CM 10.1.3 Stable & WWJB_v009_anykernel-20140429 and I don't have this problem with it.
GPS apps never use high amount of CPU and when you turn off GPS apps, CPU usage falls to idle levels.
I've flashed same WWJB_v009_anykernel-20140429 kernel over a fresh CM11 M10 install and gps bug is still there.
I think this is not about kernel or rom but something different. I can't move forward from Jellybean.
Any idea what's causing this?
Any clues, ideas or suggestions are appreciated.
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Update: I still have this annoying problem and I'm trying to solve this.
I need you to test this on your devices and tell me the result. Please.
How to reproduce the bug
1- Prepare your SD card with the custom Rom(Kitkat or later preferably with built-in file manager to install apks) to flash and apk files of F-Droid Satstat, CPU-Z for monitoring the cpu load.
2- Before flashing the rom, REMOVE your SIM card. The important thing is, do not let the phone go online after the fist boot. I will download the Agps data immediately and it may work without problem.
3- Flash X-cm12_1_1-20161131-ufoFILES-p880 or any other Rom which is 4.4+ or later. I've tried many and all of them have this problem.
4- After the first boot,(ignore the no "sim card inserted restart" notification just touch some where out of that box) install satstat and cpu-z.
5- Turn on your GPS if it is off.
6- Launch the GPS test app satstat. It will try to connect to GPS and Glonass satellites (if you have a v20 baseband) It is not important to keep the app running until you get a lock just wait for 15 seconds.
7- Close the gps app.
8- At this point you should be seeing a serious lag. Pushing the power button won't response. The phone won't go the sleep. If it does, it won't wake up easily. You will be pushing the power button several times to make it work. Battery will be drained fast.
7- Launch the CPUZ and watch the CPU load and frequency. One or two cores will spike up and down constantly and the cpu will stay at 1000-1500mhz forever.
8- There is nothing to do but restarting the phone. Sometimes my phone gets totally frozen before I'm able to restart it from the power menu. After the restart it will work normally. Provided if you keep the gps closed and not requesting info from it.
Could you test this please?
Problem solved. Temporary solution.
My description from CM11 Official thread:
Finally, I'm happy to clarify that both assisted and device only gps is working excellent!
After many sleepless nights, I've found what's causing the problem in my device. I've gone over 15+ custom roms and different kernels. I've changed baseband and custom recovery to only get despair.
The last thing I did before abandoning everything.... has worked.
Assisted GPS has to go on-line at least one time.
I'm not sure about the logic behind this but I can't believe how such a simple thing caused this trouble for me...
I don't have a data plan right now so no there is no data from cellular. I generally use device only gps outside. I've never used this rom with assisted gps when outside. I didn't get a chance.
When at home, I flashed roms with "device-only gps" testing in mind so I didn't bother connecting to wireless.
I tried this just with 20150524 and nothing else. (gapps, kernel etc.)
Enabled high accuracy mode on gps and connected to wifi.
Launched GPS Status & Toolbox app and at first, cpu usage was high but after the first fix, it's reduced to normal. I exited the app and cpu usage fell to idle as it should.
Switched off wireless and switched gps to device-only. Rebooted. Launched the GPS Status & Toolbox again and now it's working normally under device only mode. Other applications also working good.
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Fused Location Provider, responsible for managing different data sources for providing geolocation data, manages the assisted or device-only gps itself. When you enable GPS, it switches the gps mode to high accuracy itself but if you hadn't gone online before with using assisted gps, gps is always stuck at device-only. I think that creates the high CPU usage.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!! I wanted to change custom ROM because of this, and you saved me from doing it! So, if I understood correctly, all I need is to enable High accuracy mode, launch "GPS status & toolbox" app (or can it be any other gps app?) and restart after the app gets a fix?
terirem said:
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!! I wanted to change custom ROM because of this, and you saved me from doing it! So, if I understood correctly, all I need is to enable High accuracy mode, launch "GPS status & toolbox" app (or can it be any other gps app?) and restart after the app gets a fix?
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You need to let the device to download A-GPS data from internet. GPS status & toolbox does this easily and you can see the "a-gps age" at the app screen as how old your data is.
Once you get a fresh a-gps data, the phone won't stuck at high cpu frequency when gps is enabled.
I 've found out that after "a-gps age" goes over 20+ days, something happens to the gps, and gps usage starts to cause high cpu usage and frequency stuck again. You have to re-download a-gps data to solve this.
I don't know why but gps in this device is not a true offline gps.
I've already described a temporary solution to my GPS bug.
I'm still trying to find a lasting solution.
Here is what I did in various posts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=69893311#post69893311
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=69970358#post69970358
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=69988910#post69988910
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=70066931#post70066931
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=70067876#post70067876
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=70068250#post70068250
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=70071380#post70071380
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=70084342#post70084342
I also tried
- replacing fusedlocation.apk from /priv-app folder with CM10.1.3 stable's fusedlocation.apk
- another fusedlocation.apk from Atrix 4g (wiped dalvik cache after priv-app change)
- μg v1.3.2 from >HERE<
New roms:
Near all versions after cm-11-20150524-NIGHTLY-p880 up to the FINAL cm-11-20160815-NIGHTLY-p880
omni-4.4.4-20150520-p880-FINAL
X-cm12_1_1-20161016-ufoFILES-p880
X-cm12_1_1-20161131-ufoFILES-p880
Kernels:
CyodakX3_v11_CM
cyospak12
Cyospak6-7
I also upgraded my V20D baseband to V20c-EUR-XXX-OCT-07-2014 and trying ROM/Kernel combinations with this.
So far I've only tried
cm-11-20160815-NIGHTLY-p880
omni-4.4.4-20150520-p880-FINAL
X-cm12_1_1-20161016-ufoFILES-p880
X-cm12_1_1-20161131-ufoFILES-p880
Nothing works for me so far.
Thanks to @oF2pks , I think this may be ril/baseband problem.
Here is another thing:
When I check the "Settings/AboutPhone baseband" it shows L6260_modem_sic_02.1233.00 but If I disable SIM PIN lock and restart the phone it shows LGP880AT-00-V20C-EUR-XXX-OCT-07-2014.
According to oF2pks, a healthy phone should always have only one baseband reading under Settings/AboutPhone baseband.
Sorry for the late answer. I didn't give up and still working on my issue.
For easy describing, lets say State X to the the high cpu state which is causing general slowdown, stuttering, lag and freezes for my device, which occurs after GPS usage, without any data connection after fresh rom install and that kicks in again any time if you are not online with the phone frequently.
After many flashes and tests I found some interesting things.
- In State X, the phone actually goes to deep sleep BUT you have to wait for the 1 minute screen timer and don't push the power button to send it to sleep. After waking it up, cpu is still stuck.
- p880-ota-eng.nmf26qz never displays L6260_modem_sic_02.1233.00 but still falling to the State X.
Only custom rom working without State X problem for me is the cm-10.1.3-p880 stable.
I tried:
Switching cm-11-20160815-NIGHTLY-p880's com.android.location.provider.jar with cm-10.1.3-p880 stable's. → Result: State X
Switching cm-11-20160815-NIGHTLY-p880's telephony-common.jar with cm-10.1.3-p880 stable's. → Result: Error at start-up
add line to getprop file: ro.ril.def.agps.mode = 0
→ Result: State X
Switching cm-11-20160815-NIGHTLY-p880's lge-ril.so with cm-10.1.3-p880 stable's. → Result: State X
oF2pks said:
So do you have right baseband v20C when you boot with sim-on, or still firmware number?
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This is where the things are getting interesting...
- With CM10.1.3-stable, first boot after the rom flash(without sim card) baseband shows L6260_modem_sic_02.1233.00 but in the second boot with sim card, after the very first initialization with gsm tower, it shows LGP880AT-00-V20c-EUR-XXX-OCT-07-2014 and stays like this.
- With my current daily drive cm-11-20160424-NIGHTLY-p880 + WerewolfJB kernel V10
Without sim-> LGP880AT-00-V20c-EUR-XXX-OCT-07-2014
With sim-> LGP880AT-00-V20c-EUR-XXX-OCT-07-2014
Sim with sim pin lock-> L6260_modem_sic_02.1233.00
With different roms, sometimes baseband switches from LGP880AT-00-V20c-EUR-XXX-OCT-07-2014 to L6260_modem_sic_02.1233.00 after gsm initialization.
In one situation, after all the tampering, I flashed CM10.1.3-stable again and this time it was stuck with
L6260_modem_sic_02.1233.00 and never showed the LGP880AT-00-V20c-EUR-XXX-OCT-07-2014 but no State X
With my daily drive, I also checked both states with sibor's Getril. md5sums are the same.
I'm adding screenshots for them.
I think, maybe baseband display is irrelevant with my issue.
Also did format via recovery cleared your previous rom specific settings?
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All settings clear but I'm not sure abut default gps switch behaviour. Maybe it's irrelevant too.
Somehow gps switch remembers it's old positions.
Today on single(/primary_multirom) rom I have same kdz designation v20D while booting airplane or sim-on.
But on 2nd/multirom I have the difference (due to primary fake transition via kexec ?), AND the gps is working fine : airplane boot (+FasterGps) + Satstat OK and deep sleep after OK.
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My current daily drive does not have the State X rgiht now. It will stay like this for a while without internet connection, but after some time, something will trigger the State X again and there are two solutions:
1- Don't enable GPS
2- Connect to internet and update the A-GPS data.
Did you check CPU usage after GPS use?
Mine stays at 1000-1400mhz with one or two cores.
IMHO you should pm @Demetris about V20C because he was the one who did cover v20c-2014 :http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...postcount=2727 ; also he's OP for alternative http://forum.xda-developers.com/opti...grade-t2919195 (and many more...)
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I did the CSE flash method of Demetris for the V20C 2014.
I'll ask him about this gps issue. Thanks for the suggestion.
I'm also adding my getprop result for you. From fresh CM10.1.3 stable.
The biggest deal breaker for me with this phone was the "temp_throttle_skin" (around 40°C) temp limit. It's a real pain to have and the main reason of general slowdown.
At least I can deal with this GPS issue from time to time when it needs correction.
My aim here is to create some consciousness about this elusive issue for the fellow O4X users, so some unexplained battery drain issues may be resolved or dealt with by the user.
I wish everyone a Merry Xmas and a happy new year.
@KSH2014 , can you check few more:
-is imei/software = printed imei under battery
-is GPS OK with cm10's original kernel
-is GPS OK with lg JB v20c
Within hidden menu in lg JB, I remember bunch of options (GPS ?), and you problem could be somewhere in it, maybe @RuedasLocas could help you to re-settle this hidden menu
http://www.lg-phones.org/lg-optimus-4x-hd-hidden-menu.html
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@KSH2014 , can you check few more:
-is imei/software = printed imei under battery
-is GPS OK with cm10's original kernel
-is GPS OK with lg JB v20c
Within hidden menu in lg JB, I remember bunch of options (GPS ?), and you problem could be somewhere in it, maybe @RuedasLocas could help you to re-settle this hidden menu
http://www.lg-phones.org/lg-optimus-4x-hd-hidden-menu.html
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I've been busy lately.
- imei matches.
- GPS is OK with CM 10.1.3 Stable release with it's own kernel.
- GPS was OK or I think so with JB V20. I have to check it again.
I'm planning to record and upload a video to show the problem.