Related
So Verizon will no longer offer unlimited data plans to customers, but you can keep yours. When getting a new phone however you must purchase it in full. THat means around 500dollars per phone usually.
Motorola is also releasing updates now to their unlocked devices and locking them.
**** Verizon and Motorola.
My next phone will be a HTC or Samsung on (insert network name here that offers best data plan). i wont be bullied anymore. This is beyond ridiculous.
Just buy phones locally then. Plus, off contract phones are better then being locked down.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
Dri94 said:
So Verizon will no longer offer unlimited data plans to customers, but you can keep yours. When getting a new phone however you must purchase it in full. THat means around 500dollars per phone usually.
Motorola is also releasing updates now to their unlocked devices and locking them.
**** Verizon and Motorola.
My next phone will be a HTC or Samsung on (insert network name here that offers best data plan). i wont be bullied anymore. This is beyond ridiculous.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Will it looks like after that happens if i need a new phone and have to buy it out right then i will just swich to straight talk because 45 a mouth unlimited talk text and web that beats ne paying the BIG V 400 mouth any ways so i think i will unlock my droid 3 now thanks for the info man
Sent from my DROID3 using XDA
KayxGee1 said:
Just buy phones locally then. Plus, off contract phones are better then being locked down.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yea i know, i used to live in europe and thats the way my parents bought them for me. but im a college student, i dont have half a G to spend on a nice phone :/ i wish these big corporations would stop tryin to mess us over. They have all the coverage so they can do what they want now.
leerpsp said:
Will it looks like after that happens if i need a new phone and have to buy it out right then i will just swich to straight talk because 45 a mouth unlimited talk text and web that beats ne paying the BIG V 400 mouth any ways so i think i will unlock my droid 3 now thanks for the info man
Sent from my DROID3 using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
how is the coverage with straighttalk though? the plans seem to much of a great deal to not have some drawback somewhere. otherwise why are they not leading the market lol
Dri94 said:
So Verizon will no longer offer unlimited data plans to customers, but you can keep yours. When getting a new phone however you must purchase it in full. THat means around 500dollars per phone usually.
Motorola is also releasing updates now to their unlocked devices and locking them.
**** Verizon and Motorola.
My next phone will be a HTC or Samsung on (insert network name here that offers best data plan). i wont be bullied anymore. This is beyond ridiculous.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think you have a couple of misconceptions going on there. You are confusing the brand of phone and the carrier. It's verizon billing you for data. Motorola has nothing to do with that. Buy an HTC or Samsung phone on Verizon and the price for data is the same as if you bought a Motorola phone. Buy a Motorola phone on a different carrier and the price for data on that phone will be the same as any other phone on that carrier.
Also how do you figure $500 per phone? Currently I'm one of the people grandfathered in on an unlimited data plan. That's $30 per month for unlimited data. So over the course of a 24 month contract, I'll actually pay $720 for data. People who are not grandfathered are still paying the same $720 over 24 months but are only getting 2 GB per month. Since 2 GB is plenty for me, it doesn't much matter.
The only difference with the new plans coming out this summer is that data is charged per account rather than per phone. If you add a tablet for example, you don't necessarily have to pay for any more data if both devices together stay within the cap. The thing is everyone is panicking and complaining before we even know what the caps will be and what the price will be for each tier.
For example if it were still $30 for two gigabytes I could actually save $30 per month. currently my wife has her $30 and I have my $30 for a total of $60 between us. But we each on our own have never exceeded 900 MB so we could switch to a pool of 2 GB total to share between us and end up paying half as much total. but we need to know the facts and figures to make those comparisons...
And right now, everyone complaining doesn't have any more idea than I do.
I'm just done with Verizon. I'm going with prepaid now. :|
Lol ratman you read my post wrong. Ill explain
Motorola sent a update locking an unlocked phone. Im assuming the trend dwill continue as they havent started unlocking phones they said they would. But instead doing the opposite and locking unlocked phones..
Seperately, verizon is getting rid of unlimited or 2gb data plan. You can keep it if you already have it but if you want to get a new phone (using it for your unlimited) you must buy it completely. Meaning around 500 dollars. Thats how much phones actually cost if you dont buy with a plan.
I believe you still can upgrade for free however on your plan
Dri94 said:
yea i know, i used to live in europe and thats the way my parents bought them for me. but im a college student, i dont have half a G to spend on a nice phone :/ i wish these big corporations would stop tryin to mess us over. They have all the coverage so they can do what they want now.
how is the coverage with straighttalk though? the plans seem to much of a great deal to not have some drawback somewhere. otherwise why are they not leading the market lol[/QUOTED
Straight talk has good coverage there is one drawback after you go over 2 gb of net they slow your speed down but its still fast as hell even when they do my bro has it and uses it for the net with his laptop with his droid 3 and same speed as me if not faster and so its a good deal but to get good phones like the razer droid 3 and iphone you have to buy them out right and also somthing cool you can have any att phone and you do not have to get it unlocked they have a sim that works with it!
Sent from my DROID3 using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol throttling is alot better than having a cap. Honestly that is not an issue to me. But thanks man your a god for that info, im going to look more into it and see if that is a good alternative. Sounds great so far :]
Sent from my XT862 using Tapatalk 2
Dri94 said:
yea i know, i used to live in europe and thats the way my parents bought them for me. but im a college student, i dont have half a G to spend on a nice phone :/ i wish these big corporations would stop tryin to mess us over. They have all the coverage so they can do what they want now.
how is the coverage with straighttalk though? the plans seem to much of a great deal to not have some drawback somewhere. otherwise why are they not leading the market lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I currently use straight talk service with my droid 3 and it is awesome. With the droid 3 you get the option to get an att or a tmobile based sim card and you get all their normal coverage.
Looks like straight talk just earned a new customer :] well once i get my job lmao
When the time comes, I'll probably pay full price for my next phone. I just won't purchase it from Verizon. I'll buy something that'll work on their network, but without the stupid locked bootloader or bloatware.
I just got done reading an article from USA Today that was talking about how users who have grandfathered data will be forced to select one of Verizon's shared family plans or tiered plans if or when they go to upgrade their device.
I really despise Verizon for this and will be heading to sprint if I have to give up unlimited data. If they think they will make more money from this move, I suggest everyone leave Verizon and show them the error in their ways.
And just wait, they are trying to eliminate unlimited data for home internet also and the head of the FCC supports limited data. Online gaming and video will suffer and our country will wonder why businesses will struggle. Who's going to let their kids play online games when they have to watch their data usage. Bad news for companies like Sony who have the PS3 and online gaming and bad news for online video streaming companies like Netflix.
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using XDA
In the end though, I really can't see Verizon being too negatively affected by all of this. The heavy duty users will either pony up the extra cash (because of Sprint's shoddy coverage) or leave and bog down another carriers network.
I have unlimited data right now, and I rarely go over 2GB and I've never been over 4. I stream music pretty often, use fox-fi for thether, and spend a good bit of time on my phone.
Does it suck? Yea. Will it get me to switch? Probably not. I guess it depends on what the pricing structure looks like. I'm intrigued by the idea of the shared data plans too.
Cut off will be June 27th 1159pm to keep it for one last contract.
New plans are expensive! http://solutions.vzwshop.com/shareeverything/pdf/verizon_share_everything_plan_details.pdf
I love Verizon...I have 2 lines on my account (both Bionics) one has the 10GB plan and my wife has the 6GB + mobile hotspot and our monthly bill is around $215/month. Plenty of data for that price.
Peace.
Your on xda, and still paying for the hotspot service? We're the reason Verizon started offering the tethering service in the first place once they realized we were already doing it for free.
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using XDA
Believe me I love FoxFi. My wife is a by the book type person.
She uses the hotspot feature for work as a necessity. No matter how many times I tell her that I'm 99% sure she wouldn't get caught using FoxFi she comes back and says that what if they do? I need this for work! I then just sigh.
I think if they are going to force limited data plans on us, at least give an exemption for apps such as Netflix. You will eat your plan up real fast just by streaming a couple movies.
Also include services such as slacker radio and Pandora into the exemption.
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using XDA
So if we have grandfathered unlimited data (we been on verizon for years) do we keep it as long as we dont upgrade or buy phones off contract (like ebay)?
HorsexD said:
So if we have grandfathered unlimited data (we been on verizon for years) do we keep it as long as we dont upgrade or buy phones off contract (like ebay)?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is precisely how to keep unlimited data.
If Verizon sells you a subsidized phone, that's where they get to force you into a new contract.
If you buy a phone at full retail price from Verizon, or buy a used phone from a place like eBay or Swappa your unlimited data is safe.
Even if you're sitting on something like a Samsung Fascinate, you can go on Craigslist and buy a Razr Maxx, head to a Verizon store, and get a free SIM card to continue service on the Razr Maxx. Nothing on your plan changes except a line item or two for $0.00 indicating that you have 4G Unlimited instead of 3G Unlimited.
projektorboy said:
This is precisely how to keep unlimited data.
If Verizon sells you a subsidized phone, that's where they get to force you into a new contract.
If you buy a phone at full retail price from Verizon, or buy a used phone from a place like eBay or Swappa your unlimited data is safe.
Even if you're sitting on something like a Samsung Fascinate, you can go on Craigslist and buy a Razr Maxx, head to a Verizon store, and get a free SIM card to continue service on the Razr Maxx. Nothing on your plan changes except a line item or two for $0.00 indicating that you have 4G Unlimited instead of 3G Unlimited.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is wrong. That is how it used to work before, now if you attempt to activate a new phone you will be forced to choose new plan options before they will activate it, regardless of where you got your phone. Welcome to the new Verizon.
I will probably be forced off of Verizon at some point. I am already paying $245 a month for 2 androids with unlimited talk, text, and data with insurance and a $3/month slacker radio subscription.
While the data limitations would be no concern to my girlfriend, I am at 5.341gb for the month, with another week left in the month. They are already getting enough money from us every month.
With the changes, I will be forced to cancel my slacker subscription because I use it mainly while driving and won't be able to do that anymore. I don't mind paying $3 a month for being able to listen to music I like while driving. This is an example of why limited data plans have an economic impact on other companies.
I don't know, but I think $245 a month is enough. Is business really that bad for them that they have to try to push for $300 a month? This is why corporate America is seen as greedy.
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using XDA
Does this include prepaid also?
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using XDA
The shared data plans are a complete rip anyway. From what I read, they charge you for the pool, than the first device, than the second device. That means that I would pay the same I pay now for my plan's two devices and only get 4GB of data for the two of them to share. I know exactly what I am going to do when I get my next upgrade; I won't upgrade.
nobreak1970 said:
Believe me I love FoxFi. My wife is a by the book type person.
She uses the hotspot feature for work as a necessity. No matter how many times I tell her that I'm 99% sure she wouldn't get caught using FoxFi she comes back and says that what if they do? I need this for work! I then just sigh.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I understand your point. Your wife sounds like someone who should be paying for it since its for work.
Its the average user whom I think its overpriced for. I don't use it myself too often, but I did pay $10 for easy tether so I can hook up through USB and share my data with my computer when I need to. Since I don't typically need other people using my data, I rarely use wifi tether since it kills your battery faster.
I don't just oppose limited data based on my data usage though. I look at the bigger picture. It will slow down technology growth and may put some businesses out of business. Any business that uses bandwidth will be impacted. Customers will be less willing to pay for services that they could be charged twice for using (the service and the data overage charges, Netflix, slacker radio, etc). Even app developers will be impacted because people will be less willing to download as many apps to try out.
Some flashers may impacted as well. Some of us download the roms directly on to our phones. Our data plans would be eaten up a lot just by keeping up to date with the roms.
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using XDA
Sadly when I first found out about shared family plans I thought it would save me money but it seems to get an amount of data equivalent to what the three basic data packages on my account have i will have to pay a good bit more.
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk 2
nullness said:
This is wrong. That is how it used to work before, now if you attempt to activate a new phone you will be forced to choose new plan options before they will activate it, regardless of where you got your phone. Welcome to the new Verizon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Okay then. Debunk this article which contains an official statement from Verizon
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/1...d-data-says-exactly-what-we-already-told-you/
What to do.... I don't think Sprint is an option. Go to AT&T? Is it worth paying list price just to keep unlimited data? Since I am not upgrading soon, I will have the benefit of lots of examples.
ronaldheld said:
What to do.... I don't think Sprint is an option. Go to AT&T? Is it worth paying list price just to keep unlimited data? Since I am not upgrading soon, I will have the benefit of lots of examples.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
AT&T was the first to eliminate unlimited data. They are worse than Verizon. At one point in time, they had their phones locked to where you could only install apps from the android market. They stopped that when Amazon released their own app store and their users couldn't install the Amazon app store, or any of the apps from it.
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using XDA
projektorboy said:
Okay then. Debunk this article which contains an official statement from Verizon
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/1...d-data-says-exactly-what-we-already-told-you/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That article is a month old...read more recent statements from them.
If you are in a Sprint 4G area, go for it.
I had to have an Airave device just to make a phone call.
Sprint changed their billing, I opted out with no etf's(a moto photon and a nexus s4g, about one month old), went to Verizon, signed on, came home, had full bars of 3G, and a week later they flipped the switch and I now have 4G.
I sent an open signal text to my old Sprint rep showing her the 4G and strength. WHat else could she do?
I have a a upgrade available on one of my lines. I have been looking into getting a Moto X and designing it myself. Everything was going well on motomaker website until I got to the data plan page and there was no option to keep my unlimited data plan and no option to keep existing data plan ...
I know a few in here who have done the process and could shine some light into how you approach the situation. I don't want to lose my unlimited data plan.
If you're using Motomaker, I'm assuming you're AT&T since they're the only ones who have that right now. Not sure about AT&T, but on Verizon, you'd have to use the alternative method of transfering your unlimited line's upgrade to another line (or just use that line's upgrade), upgrade that line to the Moto X, then transfer the phone to your line. This all depends on your plan, of course. I believe if you upgrade through a site like Wirefly, they don't allow you to switch the phone to another line for something like 90+ days, or you get charged a really high fee. Also, this extends that line for 2 years, of course.
Probably works the same with AT&T, but it may depend on the plan you have. Of course, if you don't have multiple lines, others have simply added a $10 dummy line, eaten the 1 month data fee, then switch the phone over to their main line and kept the $10 dummy line for the 2 years (since you can't ETF it, just downgrade to a basic phone at $10 and don't use it). Saves I think $200 overall over 2 years, but I couldn't be bothered and we have a family plan with a high bill as it is, so I just bought it full price (Verizon)
I have AT&T, I just upgraded my wife to Galaxy S4 and she was able to keep her plan as it was before. I know with Verizon if you use your upgrade, you lose you unlimited data.
gordata said:
I have a a upgrade available on one of my lines. I have been looking into getting a Moto X and designing it myself. Everything was going well on motomaker website until I got to the data plan page and there was no option to keep my unlimited data plan and no option to keep existing data plan ...
I know a few in here who have done the process and could shine some light into how you approach the situation. I don't want to lose my unlimited data plan.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have AT&T, LTE Unlimited, and customized my phone on Motomaker. At first I had the same issue, even when I was just trying to check at AT&T's site, just to see the final price, I just couldn't go past the "choose a data plan" part, because it didn't list my current one.
It's not as complicated s transferring anything, although it requires some "real world" activity. I just went to an AT&T store, and told them I wanted to get a new phone, and keep my data plan. They have black & white, but you can also get that Motomaker card thingy, it has a scratch-off section with a code that you input in Motomaker when you're done with your design. The card also comes already with your future phone' SKU, Serial No and IMEI... so it was cool to know that somewhere in Texas, there was already a phone with my name in it .
Of course, while the guy was preparing my upgrade and giving me the card, I asked him every 1 minute to confirm that I was keeping my plan, followed by "because that's the most important part, I want to keep my data plan".
My mom bought the Moto X, and all she had to do was call AT&T before turning on the phone and telling them to activate her new plan with her grandfathered unlimited plan.
Sent from my XT1058 using xda app-developers app
iandr0idos said:
My mom bought the Moto X, and all she had to do was call AT&T before turning on the phone and telling them to activate her new plan with her grandfathered unlimited plan.
Sent from my XT1058 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What plan did she select from the 3 available when she built it?
gordata said:
What plan did she select from the 3 available when she built it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
She (I) chose the 3GB plan.
Sent from my XT1058 using xda app-developers app
gordata said:
I have a a upgrade available on one of my lines. I have been looking into getting a Moto X and designing it myself. Everything was going well on motomaker website until I got to the data plan page and there was no option to keep my unlimited data plan and no option to keep existing data plan ...
I know a few in here who have done the process and could shine some light into how you approach the situation. I don't want to lose my unlimited data plan.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2367734
[Guide] How to upgrade without losing unlimited data.
Sent from a Shaftamle Galaxy S4
"Thanks Button" is always appreciated!
http://mycolorscreen.com/Shaftamle/
Shaftamle said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2367734
[Guide] How to upgrade without losing unlimited data.
Sent from a Shaftamle Galaxy S4
"Thanks Button" is always appreciated!
http://mycolorscreen.com/Shaftamle/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the Help but that's for Verizon. I have been upgrading on AT&T for a few years now while keeping my unlimited plan, Just want to be sure on the Moto X.
Going to wait until the phone drops in price a little before I pull the trigger, I want a few of the accessories and the protection plan.
My apologies. I should read first. :what:
Sent from a Shaftamle Galaxy S4
"Thanks Button" is always appreciated!
http://mycolorscreen.com/Shaftamle/
Hey guys I am tired of waiting for Verizon to offer the Nexus 6 so I am looking into purchasing from alternative outlets. So I know that a T Mobile device will work on Verizon network due to reading this in numerous threads. So I would like to get the T Mobile version of the phone but will pay the full unsubsidized price for the phone in order to keep my unlimited data plan. I just want to confirm that purchasing from T Mobile that there is no way that Verizon will be able to take away my unlimited data plan as long as I just cut down my current micro sim and insert directly into the Nexus. I have confirmed that this would be fine through Play edition devices, but just wanted to make sure that the T Mobile version will also work as Motorola and the Play Store have been out of stock for awhile. Thanks!
You're not upgrading through Verizon so there shouldn't be a reason they could take it away anymore than they have now. Why not switch to T-Mobile all together? I just did from ATT and couldn't be happier with unlimited data and their network. I know its not for everyone and depending on where you live it could be worse or better for service. The T mobile version is he same as the PS and Moto one except it comes with a t mobile sim and quick start pamphlet.
yeah thats what i was thinking. just didnt know if verizon had any way of telling that the phone was a t mobile phone and then being able to screw me over somehow. also dont really wanna switch right now because i am lucky enough to have one of the rare family unlimited plans and am actually paying significantly less than any other carrier could offer, so i need to stick with verizon.
eww242 said:
yeah thats what i was thinking. just didnt know if verizon had any way of telling that the phone was a t mobile phone and then being able to screw me over somehow. also dont really wanna switch right now because i am lucky enough to have one of the rare family unlimited plans and am actually paying significantly less than any other carrier could offer, so i need to stick with verizon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not that I know of, my mom who is in her late 50's had her unlimited data forever even through numerous upgrades. She then got sick of VZW and their bs, and switch to T-Mobile 4 months ago. I had Att and switched recently aswel. VZW can't so anything if you aren't subsidizing a phone through their stores (there are ways around this) because you are not changing your plan at all therefore not affecting your data. They can still take it away if they really want to because they want to make money and can always try for find a reason to get you off of it.
I can confirm that there is actually no possible way Verizon can change your plan when using this phone on their network.
I'm seriously thinking about dumping Verizon for T-Mobile with the 2 lines for $100 for unlimited everything. I want to get rid of Comcast and use T-Mobile as my internet connection for my home use also. The question that I have is can root bypass the 5gb hotspot connection so I can use the hot spot for more data?
Yes ... you can even do it without root by adding dun to your APN type in settings.
That is a bit of tricky question as we truly (or at least I haven't seen a definitive answer) don't know as how T-Mobile determines if someone is using their hotspot beyond whatever software might be installed on a branded handset which alerts T-Mobile to the use of the feature.
If T-Mobile can determine that you are using your hotspot feature regardless of whatever you do on your handset (like bypassing) than it wouldn't make a difference what you do.
I have seen multiple conflicting reports over the years and there doesn't seem to be anything close to a consensus.
Dan
I left Verizon for T-Mobile last month for the same deal. I was grandfathered into unlimited data for Verizon and 700 minutes, but no text. My wife texts like crazy so I was paying way more than I should have each month. Regardless, $100 for us both with unlimited everything was the catch. Texts for her, data for me. I tether a lot in my job, and I've been known to download heavy files from time-to-time. So far, T-Mobile has been great. Data speeds are a bit slower, but coverage where I am most of the time is just as good or even a bit better than Verizon.
The problem was the phone. I couldn't use my old Verizon Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile (well, I could, just HSPA+ instead of LTE). I got an unlocked Nexus 5 that worked great. Earpiece was busted, I swapped it, still didn't work, sold it and got a Moto X 2014 Pure Edition instead. So far, so good. Tethering works once rooted. I've not come close to the usually 2-3GB of tethering that I do each month. But no warnings or caps or throttle as best I can tell.
All I can say, keep away from the branded phones. Go and get a Google Play edition phone. You'll be thankful you did. My wife's T-Mobile branded LG G2 is great for her, but it drives me nuts. I had one too (before the Google Play Edition Nexus 5) for like 2 days before I sold it.