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Could running only android be possible on the touchpad?

Don't know if this has been talked about in depth, but is it possible to only run android on the TP? I ask because I also own an HTC HD2 which was released as a windows mobile phone. It was dual boot somewhat until magldr, a bootloader, was developed to run android only from nand. I think the possibility is closer now that an interchangeable stand alone kernel has been made for cm9. Or am I thinking too hard?
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Not sure about cm9, but cm7 needs some inner workings of webos to boot.

upsmanraz said:
Don't know if this has been talked about in depth, but is it possible to only run android on the TP? I ask because I also own an HTC HD2 which was released as a windows mobile phone. It was dual boot somewhat until magldr, a bootloader, was developed to run android only from nand. I think the possibility is closer now that an interchangeable stand alone kernel has been made for cm9. Or am I thinking too hard?
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I'm pretty sure it's possible, but I like webos.
It also gives you a safety net in case android goes south on you.
It's useful having a dual boot tablet. Webos runs nicely, as long as you install preware and the performance tweaks/patches + oc. I use uberkernel @ 1.7 Max, 384 min.

Cm9 also needs Webos i guess...they will never remove WEBOS i guess...and as the above poster said it is good as a backup..

The CM team has said that they want to keep WebOS for several reasons, one has already been addressed here (needing some info from webos), but the other is so that if something totally breaks, you can get back to stock through webos doctor.

Drachen808 said:
The CM team has said that they want to keep WebOS for several reasons, one has already been addressed here (needing some info from webos), but the other is so that if something totally breaks, you can get back to stock through webos doctor.
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I can see that point, but as I said with the phone running android, I can go back to windows mobile at any time just by flashing the rom.
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upsmanraz said:
I can see that point, but as I said with the phone running android, I can go back to windows mobile at any time just by flashing the rom.
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It may happen eventually. Probably once everything works on ICS, we have a choice of about 6 kernels, and everything is stable, tweaked and upgraded, I could see someone working on it.

Hope that it will happen. Extra free couple of gigs are more important to me than useless OS.

Unrealwolf said:
Hope that it will happen. Extra free couple of gigs are more important to me than useless OS.
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Really? I kinda like Web-Os and the ability to dual boot. Its not a bad os, I actually find myself using it 50% of the time.

look how long it took the hd2 to be able to run android natively thru nand. then think about how long it was til everything we worked out and devs could put out stable roms.
i'm sure it'll happen. its just gonna take some time. i do like the safety net idea though.

[Q]What mods, roms, and OS's should I look into?

I will be getting a TouchPad in the next few days for around 100$, and I was wondering what kind of stuff I should look into if I just simply refuse to use it stock.
I have plenty of experience with Android Roms, and have done quite a number on my Nook Color, Milestone X (The non-Verizon Droid X), and my old HTC Hero.
But after browsing these forums and sub-forums a bit, I realized that there are just so many different choices when it comes to what your TouchPad is running.
I have seen Ubuntu and many different versions of linux, android, windows, and even just enhancing webOS.
What are the best choices and resources to get stared with? So I don't turn my new tablet into a cutting board.

LOL Cutting board...Nice
As far as Android is concerned we have CM9...which is pretty awesome...most nightlies are very stable...they have all the main mods and features....then we have AOKP, which is a kang on CM9 and we have other similar roms..most of them are kanged from CM9....There is ClassicNerd rom, which is not kanged from CM9, its faster but less features...
You can find most stuff related to Android or ubuntu dev here or rootzwiki...
WebOS enhancement can found here http://forums.webosnation.com/

Thanks, Viny.
Do you think you could point me in the direction of where I can get this "HP Doctor" thing explained?

grizzbud said:
Thanks, Viny.
Do you think you could point me in the direction of where I can get this "HP Doctor" thing explained?
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Buddy, for all the tweaks and mods for Webos, read this guide it has links to webOS doctor and easy instructions on how to use it..

I'm pretty curious about the Touchpad too. They're not as cheap here in europe, but I found a 32GB model for 260 Euros. I've fallen in love with the glossy black surfaces already and I'm dying to get my hands on one.
Is it a good idea? I'm dying to try out WebOS but at the same time, wanting to experience Android on a tablet. So this sounds like a perfect device.
What functionality do I gain if I load CM9 onto it as well? Can I attach external storage devices or a mouse via USB?

GigiAUT said:
I'm pretty curious about the Touchpad too. They're not as cheap here in europe, but I found a 32GB model for 260 Euros. I've fallen in love with the glossy black surfaces already and I'm dying to get my hands on one.
Is it a good idea? I'm dying to try out WebOS but at the same time, wanting to experience Android on a tablet. So this sounds like a perfect device.
What functionality do I gain if I load CM9 onto it as well? Can I attach external storage devices or a mouse via USB?
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with CM9/android, you get whole lot f functionality man. CM9/ICS on touchpad has most of the functionality except camera..and some audio issues...Once you go android, u might not go back to webos....

I highly recommend AOKP and ArchLinuxARM.
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What's the difference between AOKP and CM 9? I've installed CM9 and I'm pretty amazed so far. Just the problem with the much, webcam, and some, sound issues but otherwise, I love it.
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HP Touchpad or not

I have oportunity to buy new and very cheap HP Touchpad 16GB.
Here are my doubts:
1. I do not know at the moment how it goes with implementation of Android on it so any suggestion about this issue from you is welcome.
2. How good is WebOS for end users and also does it have any apps for kids like educational games and similar, and do i have to pay for them ???
3. Support of Qualcom 3g USB modem and it possibilities to connect via 3g network.
4. battery life experience under WebOS and Android.
i need help ASAP because offer is running out.
Regards,

janeku said:
I have oportunity to buy new and very cheap HP Touchpad 16GB.
Here are my doubts:
1. I do not know at the moment how it goes with implementation of Android on it so any suggestion about this issue from you is welcome.
2. How good is WebOS for end users and also does it have any apps for kids like educational games and similar, and do i have to pay for them ???
3. Support of Qualcom 3g USB modem and it possibilities to connect via 3g network.
4. battery life experience under WebOS and Android.
i need help ASAP because offer is running out.
Regards,
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The answers to every one of those questions is in the forum and there are several threads with practically the same questions. Please take the time to learn to SEARCH for your answers. You will always learn more if you look for info yourself rather than it just being handed to you
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All I will say is that you will love your TouchPad running ICS.

janeku said:
I have oportunity to buy new and very cheap HP Touchpad 16GB.
Here are my doubts:
1. I do not know at the moment how it goes with implementation of Android on it so any suggestion about this issue from you is welcome. The only issue remaining is the camera does not work
2. How good is WebOS for end users and also does it have any apps for kids like educational games and similar, and do i have to pay for them ??? I dont EVER boot to WebOS, I strictly use Android ICS
3. Support of Qualcom 3g USB modem and it possibilities to connect via 3g network. There is no internal hardware that will allow this, I don't know if there are any external products
4. battery life experience under WebOS and Android. I get great battery life on mine, I also have it on a Touchstone when I am not using it. Again I never use WebOS, so I have no experience.
i need help ASAP because offer is running out.
Regards,
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I LOVE my TP(32Gig). I got a mine for a great price, and can't imagine I'd get much better for 4x the money of what I spent

janeku said:
I have oportunity to buy new and very cheap HP Touchpad 16GB.
Here are my doubts:
1. I do not know at the moment how it goes with implementation of Android on it so any suggestion about this issue from you is welcome.
2. How good is WebOS for end users and also does it have any apps for kids like educational games and similar, and do i have to pay for them ???
3. Support of Qualcom 3g USB modem and it possibilities to connect via 3g network.
4. battery life experience under WebOS and Android.
i need help ASAP because offer is running out.
Regards,
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My two cents;
If you like ICS and the 10 inch size the TP is great! I have a Kindle Fire running ICS which I really like but I find myself using the TP much more often. It is faster, smoother, and more storage.
WebOS is a really cool OS but the lack of apps pretty much ruins it for me, I never use it other than just messing around with it to learn more about it, I have very few apps for WebOS. If you want a wide selection of cheap and free apps for kids, Android has plenty of these.
No idea on the usb modem, but it tethers great to every mobile wifi hotspot (android phones) that I have tried.
Battery life is good if you ask me. Maybe not as good as my wife's Ipad 2 but I use the TP a lot more for video than her, which eats battery.
I like the TP so much I bought a second one so that we now have a tablet for every kid on road-trips, it's fantastic

I know about this suggestion, but as i said, i do not have much time because of offer. I peek a little around xda and see that ics is still not developed good, but ubuntu is available too. I already did rooting of my htc desire, runing miui, but this section is new. I think i'm going to buy this little thing and wait for good version of android.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA

janeku said:
I know about this suggestion, but as i said, i do not have much time because of offer. I peek a little around xda and see that ics is still not developed good, but ubuntu is available too. I already did rooting of my htc desire, runing miui, but this section is new. I think i'm going to buy this little thing and wait for good version of android.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA
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If you say that ICS isn't developed enough then you still have a lot to read
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noob
I just bought a 32GB last week, but still haven't received it. I have questioned numerous sources and they say that the CM nightlies are reliable.

knickerblogger said:
I just bought a 32GB last week, but still haven't received it. I have questioned numerous sources and they say that the CM nightlies are reliable.
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I can fortunately say that I have no issues running the unofficial nightlies with TWRP recovery and nightly differential updates
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janeku said:
I know about this suggestion, but as i said, i do not have much time because of offer. I peek a little around xda and see that ics is still not developed good, but ubuntu is available too. I already did rooting of my htc desire, runing miui, but this section is new. I think i'm going to buy this little thing and wait for good version of android.
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I think ICS runs great on it. I have not run into any problems that a quick search on xda didn't fix easily (and most of those were caused by me screwing with things just for fun that I didn't fully understand).
It works flawlessly enough that my kids (as young as 4) and wife (as tech savvy as the 4yr old) use it all the time and have never had a single problem. They are able to install and use all the apps they want and more.

janeku said:
I know about this suggestion, but as i said, i do not have much time because of offer. I peek a little around xda and see that ics is still not developed good, but ubuntu is available too. I already did rooting of my htc desire, runing miui, but this section is new. I think i'm going to buy this little thing and wait for good version of android.
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I personally believe that if you don't give it a try, you'll be short changing yourself. There are a few VERY good ICS ROM's out there right now. The only reason I ever change ROM's at this point, is because I am a flash whore. The current ROM I am on, has NOTHING going wrong with it, aside from the camera not working yet(it is being worked on). That for me is a non-issue, but may be for others. I can honestly say that it is more solid than the ROM's I run in my phone.

Thank you guys for all your hard work

Yesterday I was tasked by my gf with the task of seeing if I could "make her tablet work like her other tablet" (ie the Nook HD+ needed to work like the Nexus 7 she had, because she cracked the screen on that one and now had to have access to her calendar).
I got it and my first response was to get to XDA-developers.com. I have an old Nook Color running CM7, and the girls are using Nook Tablets that are rooted and have just a standard generic Android tablet interface now, so I had done this before.
The typical process involves coming here, reading around, trying different things, lots of profanity because things never work right for me the first time, and then finally getting things right by reading a lot of the posts due to the hours of work put in by the developers and moderators contributing to this site.
Then I happily download everything, install it, and run off to put all kinds of things on it using the Google Play app once that is enabled.
It occurred to me I never thanked all the people that spent so much time and effort answering questions, dealing with the frustration, and putting threads together - because people like me read the threads of you helping other people so we never really need to post.
But I really appreciate the hours and days of work the moderators and people like verygreen and leapinlar (did I get the name right?) put into making it possible for people like myself to get all the value out of devices they (or their loved ones) have purchased.
The good news is that I got the tablet rooted and working, though I am still confused as to whether there is a version of Cyanogen that can be flashed to run on the internal ROM as the default OS, or whether we are currently all running that off sdcards for now and you are pretty much stuck using the default Nook HD+ OS with root and GApps enabled as the closest option for now. Is there an easy way to make that transition or do I have to remove root and everything else to go to CM10/equiv?
Thanks again for everything regardless,
Mike

2twist said:
But I really appreciate the hours and days of work the moderators and people like verygreen and leapinlar (did I get the name right?) put into making it possible for people like myself to get all the value out of devices they (or their loved ones) have purchased.
The good news is that I got the tablet rooted and working, though I am still confused as to whether there is a version of Cyanogen that can be flashed to run on the internal ROM as the default OS, or whether we are currently all running that off sdcards for now and you are pretty much stuck using the default Nook HD+ OS with root and GApps enabled as the closest option for now. Is there an easy way to make that transition or do I have to remove root and everything else to go to CM10/equiv?
Thanks again for everything regardless,
Mike
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You are welcome.
As of yet it is not possible to run a different ROM on internal memory. The system is too locked down for now.
So if you want to run an alternate ROM it has to be by SD. You can run either by the standard verygreen method outlined in his thread or you can run his ROMs on my Hybrid SD which means part of the system is on the SD and part on internal memory. Stock is not effected either way. But using the Hybrid it is easier to boot back and forth between the stock and CM ROMs.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD

I second the OP's sentiments. Sent a little pizza money to verygreen and leapinlar for their hard work on everything. Given what is under the hood in the HD+, the cost of the tablet and a little donation to these guys still makes this the best deal out there to get a great tablet running a rooted non-OEM version of Android.

[Q]-Best OS to be running currently on the HP TP ?

I have a wifi only HP TP that is running Schizoid. It's been that way for some time now and I really haven't kept up with the HP roms in about a year or so. I gave up being cutting edge on my TP because it often has issues when working in recovery where it can take 1-5 times of installing a rom for it to take. Sometimes I even have issues doing backups and recoveries .
What does the community feel is the best, most stable OS to be running now? If I'm not looking for a huge hassles, should I stay on schiz? Is it worth it to come up to lollipop or kitkat? I'd like to retain camera capabilities but I am not concerning with the former web os that was on there (which is still present on the tab). Yes, I admit I have not done my research yet mostly because I'd like to hear other people's opinions before I begin a laser focus on an android version.

Hmm, by Shizoid do you mean back in the pre-TP Toolbox days? I think the process of installing android has gotten a lot better and reliable. I'm currently using milaq's Lollipop build, which works pretty well, although some things still don't work like camera. I would personally think that the KitKat builds are pretty stable now, so that would be a pretty good place to try.

nARMstrong20 said:
Hmm, by Shizoid do you mean back in the pre-TP Toolbox days? I think the process of installing android has gotten a lot better and reliable. I'm currently using milaq's Lollipop build, which works pretty well, although some things still don't work like camera. I would personally think that the KitKat builds are pretty stable now, so that would be a pretty good place to try.
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Yes. It was pre-toolbox. I'd largely not touched the TP (in terms of upgrades) for roughly a year or so. I use it as it sits next to my laptop charging on the cornerstone dock day after day. Due to the headaches I always had trying to upgrade, save restores, restore from back ups if something goes wrong....I just stopped keeping it up to date.

Well in terms of stability i have read a lot of people recommending jcsullins's builds. I used his 1125 build on KitKat for months without major problems, and stuff like camera and bluetooth worked fairly well. Its a different installation process with the data media builds and such, so most Android builds past 4.4 will require a clean install, but with TP Toolbox, all that really needs to be done now is load the script, copy the build, gapps and recovery in the tablet and let the toolbox do its work.

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Well in terms of stability i have read a lot of people recommending jcsullins's builds. I used his 1125 build on KitKat for months without major problems, and stuff like camera and bluetooth worked fairly well. Its a different installation process with the data media builds and such, so most Android builds past 4.4 will require a clean install, but with TP Toolbox, all that really needs to be done now is load the script, copy the build, gapps and recovery in the tablet and let the toolbox do its work.
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Thanks narm, I'll look into it. I'm thinking I'm going to do a full blow away because I never use the WebOS partition anymore.