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Custom roms are slooooooooooooooooow.....

I'm not new to flashing custom roms in the WinMo world but, I just got my Hero like 3 days ago. I have searched and read about everything here so far and from what I have read the reason for flashing custom roms is SPEED and CUSTOMIZATION.
Well, I have flashed twice and ended up re-rooting and going back stock. I'm not trying to take anything away from the developers because I know it's hard work. I did it with my old TP with WinMo for a couple of years. When I flashed my custom WinMo roms they where ALWAYS faster than any stock rom.
HOWEVER it seems to me like none of these roms for the Hero are ready for prime time yet and from what I'm reading all of the decent developers have crossed over to the Evo so the chance of us getting some decent roms in minimal at best.
So my question is should I just wait till something is released that is more stable or should I cross over as well? AGAIN I'm not trying to take anything at all away from the developers. I expected some differences coming from WinMo. I just wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way. If not, what rom are you running? Is it faster than the stock .6 rom from sprint? Does the camera work?

What ROMs did you try? I've used DamageControl and am now on Darchdroid and have had no issues on either. Both run way faster and have way better battery life than stock. Everything works. There are tons of members here that would say the same thing...

What ROMs have you tried? Any ROM with an overclocked kernel will be faster than stock. All current ROMs also have working camera.

Are you waiting until everything finishes syncing? The first 20 minutes of your ROM experience will be a little slow as it pulls down whatever info you plugged in for Google/Facebook/Twitter/etc., but once that's done your custom ROM will be smooth sailing. I've used Fresh 2.0d, 2.1.2, PureHero, and now DarchDroid 2.7 and they've all been substantially faster than stock. Especially with OC and JIT, there's a tangible difference.
I'd trying something again and let everything sync up. I've been impressed by DarchDroid, but I'm also an AOSP fan.

What roms have you tried?
I use Buufed 2.0b and it is very fast. I used FreshToast 2.1, which was also fast until I jacked with the settings. Others are also fast as well.
If you are describing the first boot after flashing a rom, that may be because dalvik-cache needs to be built...this take a few minutes to do, but it is a one-time thing (unless you move to another rom or wipe your dalvik-cache).
abadasstanker69 said:
I'm not new to flashing custom roms in the WinMo world but, I just got my Hero like 3 days ago. I have searched and read about everything here so far and from what I have read the reason for flashing custom roms is SPEED and CUSTOMIZATION.
Well, I have flashed twice and ended up re-rooting and going back stock. I'm not trying to take anything away from the developers because I know it's hard work. I did it with my old TP with WinMo for a couple of years. When I flashed my custom WinMo roms they where ALWAYS faster than any stock rom.
HOWEVER it seems to me like none of these roms for the Hero are ready for prime time yet and from what I'm reading all of the decent developers have crossed over to the Evo so the chance of us getting some decent roms in minimal at best.
So my question is should I just wait till something is released that is more stable or should I cross over as well? AGAIN I'm not trying to take anything at all away from the developers. I expected some differences coming from WinMo. I just wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way. If not, what rom are you running? Is it faster than the stock .6 rom from sprint? Does the camera work?
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Its not like the developers left along time ago. All of them pushed out a final release before they left, and it was only 2 devs.
Also, they all run smoother then stock. Have you tried damagecontrol? Or try ANY of the overclocked roms. You can get OC on any rom now with separate flashable kernels.
Darchdroid is also the most basic rom you can use, but not basic in the area of customization. Its the only rom not built on htc framework, so there is close to zero bloat and it runs extremely smooth.

abadasstanker69 said:
I'm not new to flashing custom roms in the WinMo world but, I just got my Hero like 3 days ago. I have searched and read about everything here so far and from what I have read the reason for flashing custom roms is SPEED and CUSTOMIZATION.
Well, I have flashed twice and ended up re-rooting and going back stock. I'm not trying to take anything away from the developers because I know it's hard work. I did it with my old TP with WinMo for a couple of years. When I flashed my custom WinMo roms they where ALWAYS faster than any stock rom.
HOWEVER it seems to me like none of these roms for the Hero are ready for prime time yet and from what I'm reading all of the decent developers have crossed over to the Evo so the chance of us getting some decent roms in minimal at best.
So my question is should I just wait till something is released that is more stable or should I cross over as well? AGAIN I'm not trying to take anything at all away from the developers. I expected some differences coming from WinMo. I just wanted to know if anyone else felt the same way. If not, what rom are you running? Is it faster than the stock .6 rom from sprint? Does the camera work?
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I am running Darchdroid and recommend you do too. It is faster than the most fastidious fast rom.

I don't wanna put anyone out there and I can't really remember the specific ones I tried but one that stood out was here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683746
Everyone kept saying great things about a "fresh" rom so I figured that was it. When I used it the thing ran slow, my camera didn't work, and my picture messages wouldn't come in.
I was going to use another one but, I just thought it was a relatively new phone so maybe there wasn't sufficient work done yet

thatjerk said:
I am running Darchdroid and recommend you do too. It is faster than the most fastidious fast rom.
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Yeah, I am going to agree. As far as overall speed, Darchdroid is the best. I'm also partial to Launcherpro over the included ADWLauncher. I have 7 homescreens full of stuff and it still runs fine.

Which version of Fresh did you use? I've had some issues with the earlier 2.x versions, but it's been pretty stable since 2.0d.
EDIT: FreshToast...I've ran that one for the longest time. The only time it would go slow on me is when I jacked with the settings in SetCPU.
abadasstanker69 said:
I don't wanna put anyone out there and I can't really remember the specific ones I tried but one that stood out was here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683746
Everyone kept saying great things about a "fresh" rom so I figured that was it. When I used it the thing ran slow, my camera didn't work, and my picture messages wouldn't come in.
I was going to use another one but, I just thought it was a relatively new phone so maybe there wasn't sufficient work done yet
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Check out how fast this is..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&sns=em

wow such fast responses! lol
Sorry if I stepped on any toes but, I just tried a couple and got results that where no where near the instantaneous difference you got in the WinMo world. Maybe I should have stuck with it for a while longer....
I did have a little info up on Facebook but I REFUSE to twitter!! LMAO The contacts I have are numerous so maybe that's a contributing factor. I'm not sure. I really wanted a Froyo rom but, from what I understand, it's still in Beta.
I really just want something fast and reliable. I often use my bluetooth for HOURS on end so something less harsh on the battery would also be extremely helpful.
I will try whatever suggestions you guys have. I know you have been in the Android world way longer than me. I had XDAndroid on my TP but this is a dramatic difference.

thatjerk said:
Check out how fast this is..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&sns=em
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LMAO I got RickRoll'D

abadasstanker69 said:
I don't wanna put anyone out there and I can't really remember the specific ones I tried but one that stood out was here
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683746
Everyone kept saying great things about a "fresh" rom so I figured that was it. When I used it the thing ran slow, my camera didn't work, and my picture messages wouldn't come in.
I was going to use another one but, I just thought it was a relatively new phone so maybe there wasn't sufficient work done yet
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Camera works in that ROM. If you had another experience, something was done wrong.

thatjerk said:
Check out how fast this is..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&sns=em
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Well played, sir. If you want to watch a real benchmark of Freshtoast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byhykf6D6m4

illogic6 said:
Camera works in that ROM. If you had another experience, something was done wrong.
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I don't see how I could have "done it wrong" I mean it's pretty self explanatory. I opened the camera app and got a broken TV set in purple and blue on my screen. Everything else worked....just slowly. Maybe a bad download.....maybe. I don't know. But how could someone possibly flash wrong and still get it to run? That makes no sense.

abadasstanker69 said:
I don't see how I could have "done it wrong" I mean it's pretty self explanatory. I opened the camera app and got a broken TV set in purple and blue on my screen. Everything else worked....just slowly. Maybe a bad download.....maybe. I don't know. But how could someone possibly flash wrong and still get it to run? That makes no sense.
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You need to make sure you wipe in recovery before flashing a new ROM. It sounds like that could possibly be the issue.

illogic6 said:
You need to make sure you wipe in recovery before flashing a new ROM. It sounds like that could possibly be the issue.
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I never read anything about that! lol wow I feel like such a noob. Do i do that from the menu that pops up when restarting? The one I update the custom rom from?

illogic6 said:
Well played, sir. If you want to watch a real benchmark of Freshtoast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byhykf6D6m4
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that's just sexy

abadasstanker69 said:
I never read anything about that! lol wow I feel like such a noob. Do i do that from the menu that pops up when restarting? The one I update the custom rom from?
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Yes. Wipe data, dalvik-cache, and sd-ext if you have one.
Flash the custom ROM. When it loads sign into your gmail and give it 5ish minutes to synch your calendar/contacts/mail from the cloud. Once that is completed, you'll want to head to the market and grab "overclock widget" and make sure you're clocked to appropriate speeds.
From then on, the speed improvement should be obvious.

General Problem with Firmware Choise -.-

Hey guys,
I have a prob, cauz I dont know, which rom I should choose from the giant amount atm.
My actual FW is Ficeto's Base Rom JVT or so. But it doesnt run like I want it so I'm searchin bout 2 weeks for a good rom. But now there are again some new roms, that were leaked or released.
So should I wait for them, cauz user say, that the rom is much better than JVT?
Do you have a personally prefered Rom you would recommend to me?
I want a nice and smooth experience with my phone without havin to fight with FC's and unfinished Looks :/ And is there a really good way to backup my apps? I did hear somethin about the titanium backup or so, but I dont really know what to do^^
I also thought about switching to CM7 and use TW4.5 cause I really like the surface but otherwise CM7 doesnt have some nice apps, which I like from samsung like the music player and the calendar. :/ But I saw in one of the MIUI-Threads, that someone added the tw-framework to the CM-based rom, but I dont know, if the dev also added some apps from samsung :?
so, thx and hopin for your replies

alexx910 said:
Do you have a personally prefered Rom you would recommend to me? I want a nice and smooth experience with my phone without havin to fight with FC's and unfinished Looks :/
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Personally, I both use and strongly recommend CM7.
alexx910 said:
And is there a really good way to backup my apps? I did hear somethin about the titanium backup or so, but I dont really know what to do^^
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Titanium Backup is exactly what you're looking for. And it's simple: open Titanium Backup, go to the second tab at the top (Backup/Restore), click on any app and then click either Backup or Restore, depending on what you want to do. Also, if you press menu on the main screen, there's an option called "Batch"—and this will, with one click, backup/restore any critera of apps (for example, backup all my user apps, or restore all my system apps). Also, please note that when you're changing firmwares (for example, Samsung to CM7) DO NOT restore the app's data—only restore the app. Otherwise you risks annoying force closes.
alexx910 said:
I also thought about switching to CM7 and use TW4.5 cause I really like the surface but otherwise CM7 doesnt have some nice apps, which I like from samsung like the music player and the calendar. :/ But I saw in one of the MIUI-Threads, that someone added the tw-framework to the CM-based rom, but I dont know, if the dev also added some apps from samsung :?
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I don't mind the apps at all. Plus, there's usually more suitable ones on the market anyways. If you want Samsung apps, simply use Samsung firmware; otherwise, you have plenty of choices. Also, could you link me to the person saying they have Samsung's firmware in a CM-based ROM?
Hope I helped. There's really a lot of options for ROMs. But you'll have to try some for yourself to find out.

Check this thread out here
I think Malcho recently said the best most reliable is Darky 10.2, I would suggest it, i dont remember having force closes, but its worth a try. Being on Ficeto base im sure you are accustomed to their website...
If that doesn't appeal, then i suggest you search for stock roms...

Talon26 said:
Check this thread out here
I think Malcho recently said the best most reliable is Darky 10.2, I would suggest it, i dont remember having force closes, but its worth a try. Being on Ficeto base im sure you are accustomed to their website...
If that doesn't appeal, then i suggest you search for stock roms...
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Darky's ROM is like stock with a few tweaks (available all over this board) thrown into it. If it wasn't stable, there would be a problem. I wouldn't really recommend it, but if you're not wanting to stray far from stock, it'd be alright.

@upichie:
I have been using darkys rom since version 5.0 or somethin like that In this time I also tried some roms, like CM7 and docs rom, if I remember correctly. but the performance of Darkys Rom was the best at those good times before.
But after all the new roms released like JVS and JVT the perfomance of the phone was not very good after some time. Well, thats why I want to change my rom.
I also checked this thread out, some time ago.
But I could choose the right one of the roms. Actually I want to have the SGS2 feeling, but Wtf, settings have forced-close, video player doesnt even work.
I thought already about to flash this rom and replace the brocken apps with the sgs1-versions Maybe it would work. But I just do some brainstorming.
The main question about CM7 is:
Does this rom really consume so much energy? Cauz I actually wanna use my phone at least for 2 days without recharging it all the time
@talon:
Well, I'm not registered on darkys site, but I actually visit it sometimes, if I want to check out, of there is a new base rom, which runs smoother than mine. But in the last time there havent been any updates so far :/
So, thanx for the answers, I may will upgrade to CM7 in the next few days Have to take a closer look on the installing instructions Before, it was kinda difficult and just had to many annoying steps to get to your goal
best regards
alex

Well i'm using CM7 and im generally getting approx 2 days out of it, which is more than what i used to get on others... I think it's worth a try, im having some camera trouble, such as if i choose a setting like text, when i try take a picture it force closes. I have not looked into this as it hasn't been a huge issue, so it may only be me.
For CM7 installation, i have the link below which i used. He makes it sound like a huge deal but it isn't really (entertaining for sure! )
Ficeto has released 10.2 RE, that was a few months ago, but i remember reading that there were very few if not zero issues with that. (Not sure if this JVP base rom is after or before..)

Can a ROM make my phone quicker?

I'm with the stock LG ROM on the LG Thrill.
Can I do something to make my phone faster.

Yes roms and the right tweaks and this phone is awesome
sent from my acidhazard thrill

A custom ROM will make your phone run faster. There are you can tweak the build.prop and other things like scripts to improve the phone as well. Right now I just flashed the Mokee v1.0 ROM and it is the best ROM I have ever used on this phone. I would definitely recommend getting a CM7 ROM as long as you don't care about 3D and HDMI as they are broken currently with CM7.

I find the phone quite snappy, but then again I'm coming from a Samsung Epic. That phone was good but is getting very long in the tooth. I'm using Thrillseeker 2.1 on mine and so far I can say yes, it does improve the phone's speed. Next on the to try list is CM7(which is downloading on my phone as we speak). It's a boring day at work, might as well be productive, right?

N3M3S1S357 said:
I find the phone quite snappy, but then again I'm coming from a Samsung Epic. That phone was good but is getting very long in the tooth. I'm using Thrillseeker 2.1 on mine and so far I can say yes, it does improve the phone's speed. Next on the to try list is CM7(which is downloading on my phone as we speak). It's a boring day at work, might as well be productive, right?
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The right kernel is really all you need ... But you need to know about basebands also if you wanna get into that .. if you wanna keep it simple just download a few different roms and see what works best for you
Sent from my Inspire 4G running CoreDroid [email protected] Ghz

scripts
WattB006 said:
A custom ROM will make your phone run faster. There are you can tweak the build.prop and other things like scripts to improve the phone as well. Right now I just flashed the Mokee v1.0 ROM and it is the best ROM I have ever used on this phone. I would definitely recommend getting a CM7 ROM as long as you don't care about 3D and HDMI as they are broken currently with CM7.
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hi dude can you explain further about that scripts and how to usw that? tnx a lot dude

Actually, I've been fighting this for a while.
Sometimes the phone is blazing, other times it chugs like molasses.
I've slowly chipped away at the issues, because it's obvious not everybody has these issues, but considering how many times I've tried custom ROMs and kernels, and nothing fixes it, it has to be something I'm running.
Over time, I got rid of Folder Organizer, because that seemed to make it chug. The device seems to have very little RAM and it goes REALLY slow when it's close to full. I also tried things like deleting the downloaded files for the GameLoft titles to speed up the media search on boot. (Less files searched, less RAM used, right?)
Recently one change I made that seemed to help IMMENSELY was uninstalling SwiftKey. I'd LOVE if I could get some help confirming. The circle-swipe to unlock seems much smoother, even after a day, after getting rid of SwiftKey. I'm guessing it just used too much RAM.
At this point, I'd be at a lost otherwise. I changed launchers and used CPU monitors to see what's using up all the CPU, but came up empty.
Additionally, if you haven't tried using Seeder, I'd install that. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032

[Q] [IMP!] Briefly.. My issues with all ROMs

Hello all
So basically, I've never been settled on a ROM, why? Because all of them gotta have one or more bugs that can't help but abandon it.
In general, I just hate how 80% of all cooked ROMs DO NOT support Video Calling via CDMA
in here are some details:
CM7/7.2 is awesome but it drains battery pretty fast and Video Recording doesn't work for me "it glitches" so i ditched it.
CM9/10 briefly.. They AREN'T stable. How? It might suddenly turn off and show you a bootloop or maybe a kernel get wrecked! that happens every week for me so I ditched this one.
AOKPs the're cool and amazingly fast, battery's life is great! and I just love em but for example. the best AOKP imo is XI9000 ROM but too bad that the Google Play Store is kinda retarded in this ROM "unable to find Facebook, YouTube, Thumb.. etc..in an inside search" I dunno if that applies to all AOKPs. Plus it might wreck when battery runs out xD
Gingerbreads! are just not suitable for a 2012 use! and STOCK ones are majorly slow on my device
So i'm gonna sum this all up by asking some couple of questions:
1- How to keep your ROM stability!, and how to avoid getting it wrecked?!

screamwork said:
Hello all
So basically, I've never been settled on a ROM, why? Because all of them gotta have one or more bugs that can't help but abandon it.
In general, I just hate how 80% of all cooked ROMs DO NOT support Video Calling via CDMA
in here are some details:
CM7/7.2 is awesome but it drains battery pretty fast and Video Recording doesn't work for me "it glitches" so i ditched it.
CM9/10 briefly.. They AREN'T stable. How? It might suddenly turn off and show you a bootloop or maybe a kernel get wrecked! that happens every week for me so I ditched this one.
AOKPs the're cool and amazingly fast, battery's life is great! and I just love em but for example. the best AOKP imo is XI9000 ROM but too bad that the Google Play Store is kinda retarded in this ROM "unable to find Facebook, YouTube, Thumb.. etc..in an inside search" I dunno if that applies to all AOKPs. Plus it might wreck when battery runs out xD
Gingerbreads! are just not suitable for a 2012 use! and STOCK ones are majorly slow on my device
So i'm gonna sum this all up by asking some couple of questions:
1- How to keep your ROM stability!, and how to avoid getting it wrecked?!
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It's really weird that you're having issues with any ROM.
Using JB atm I flashed a stock 2.3.6, CM9 (TeamHacksung's build 16) twice and Mackay ROM afterwards and it's really stable for me. I don't see how your phone would just turn off or some other stuff.
Do you modify it much (undervolting, etc)?

BlueFlame4 said:
It's really weird that you're having issues with any ROM.
Using JB atm I flashed a stock 2.3.6, CM9 (TeamHacksung's build 16) twice and Mackay ROM afterwards and it's really stable for me. I don't see how your phone would just turn off or some other stuff.
Do you modify it much (undervolting, etc)?
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What do u mean by the underlined sentence? I don't flash more than ONE zip file at a time!

He means two times in a row. Some recommend it, and sometimes it's necessary when flashing a rom with a different partition layout.
I think your issues either come from not flashing properly, or not spending enough time to learn about how processes work.
No offense intended, really, but this is a developer forum, and while most of us cannot ornament ourselves with that title, it is expected of us to read up on how everything works and spend some time working out basic issues ourselves.
For example, if you experience lag, fc or other unexplainable issues with a rom where few have the same problems, you should take the time and start flashing jvu with Odin and going down that road until you've got a clean install. Most people will just pass judgements and decide that the rom is buggy.
Not saying that you do this or that, but from your op it seems like you spend more time annoying yourself than trying to fix the issues
Sent from horseback.

[Q] Is it worth upgrading to 4.4?

Hi,
My wife's GTN7000 is on 4.1.2 stock, but its a bit sluggish now. Though she has a lot of apps on it :0...
Wondering would she benefit from upgrading to 4.4? In terms of performance mainly.
It sounds like its pretty stable, is there any reason I shouldn't upgrade it? If its buggy or she loses any functionality I'll get skinned....
I presume the latest OmniROM is the one to go with, that right?
Thanks loads in advance

Well, just my opinion, customized ROMs are not for house wives.

It depends ...
I've using OMNI since last Nov.as my daily driver and already enjoying it. Better speed more smooth.
But,
Go check the list of known bugs and issues of OMNI ROM in this thread and see if your wife will be able to deal with them on a daily basis.
And I can add:
USB storage doesn't work correctly till now.
Music player crashes on few nightlies.
Camera performance was better on the stock firmware.
Some battery draining issues from time to time.
Remember Nightlies are experimental builds.

maybe, depends on your wife.
Generally, i advise, if it isn't broken, don't fix it.
On the other hand, if she is thinking about a new phone/ not happy with the note as it is, try omni.

Thanks guys Mmmmyeah maybe I'll leave it go, looks like theres still some flakyness...
Cheers

Try SlimSaber Rom from 'fusionjack'....
Awesome performance more than omni....
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

jcrosbie said:
Hi,
My wife's GTN7000 is on 4.1.2 stock, but its a bit sluggish now. Though she has a lot of apps on it :0...
Wondering would she benefit from upgrading to 4.4? In terms of performance mainly.
It sounds like its pretty stable, is there any reason I shouldn't upgrade it? If its buggy or she loses any functionality I'll get skinned....
I presume the latest OmniROM is the one to go with, that right?
Thanks loads in advance
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i think is not the roms but to many unused data.
try to custom roms 4.1.2 cos 4.4 still buggy

I've stayed away from everything, post 4.1.2 on my GT-N7000 for the simple fact that for MY
usage, it is rock stable. Camera, bluetooth are the #1 things, aside from the phone that I use
daily. I've seen a few roms, but each of them have issues with either camera, usb, SD card, or
bluetooth. For my usage, the 4.4 update didn't bring anything to the table that I would find as
a benefit.
Until I get a new device, for my pattern of use, I'm sticking with 4.1.2..... as always, your mileage
may vary.

I just update from 4.2 to 4.4.. My opinion is better update to 4.2 first since it is more stable than 4.4..