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Is anyone else having this problem:
I noticed that if I press down on the middle left side of the screen in portrait mode (the very edge of the screen) that I hear a "click" sound, almost like it's loose underneath. The rest of the screen doesn't click, only this part. I've read other reports about people having issues with the screen coming up, and was concerned. Nothing looks loose, and everything feels solid, but again, slightly concerned.
There's another thread going on about this very thing: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774438
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Not really. I mean yes at first I had to press down REAL hard and it was a very minute one, but not terrible. Now it's not doing it anymore so it just may have been a placebo effect for me.
Is it very noticeable on yours? I only noticed it when I depressed quite hard in the exact middle left of the border (not the screen).
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dzap said:
Not really. I mean yes at first I had to press down REAL hard and it was a very minute one, but not terrible. Now it's not doing it anymore so it just may have been a placebo effect for me.
Is it very noticeable on yours? I only noticed it when I depressed quite hard in the exact middle left of the border (not the screen).
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Sup dzap! :highfive:
Not too noticeable. I hear the click mostly when I left my finger off the side. Almost like something is coming up. On visual inspection, everything "looks" ok.
huge issue on this build, adhesive releases the glass and thus the sound you feel hear. charge it up, N7 will heat up and this sound will become less pronounced becasue glue will soften and then when it cools off the clicking sound will be back. They must be saving on the glue to get it under $199
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Sup dzap! :highfive:
Not too noticeable. I hear the click mostly when I left my finger off the side. Almost like something is coming up. On visual inspection, everything "looks" ok.
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huge issue on this build, adhesive releases the glass and thus the sound you feel hear. charge it up, N7 will heat up and this sound will become less pronounced becasue glue will soften and then when it cools off the clicking sound will be back. They must be saving on the glue to get it under $199
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Thanks for the info. If all it ends up being is a slight noise every so often, I can live with that. If the screen starts falling apart - that's a different story. I didn't even notice it until I started looking for problems .
I had the same problem on my 5th GNex. I exchanged it for another one. It depends how much it bothers you I guess.
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huge issue on this build, adhesive releases the glass and thus the sound you feel hear. charge it up, N7 will heat up and this sound will become less pronounced becasue glue will soften and then when it cools off the clicking sound will be back. They must be saving on the glue to get it under $199
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I had this problem and am in middle of getting a replacement unit. However, I am hesitant of the adhesive/heat theory going around, partly from others' reports of clicks, although I heard none (but I didn't push as hard as some) and partly as the ifixit teardown didn't mention adhesive other than partially securing the battery to the frame--and, adhesive is something they always like to mention. Moreover, the pics they show suggest a mixture of clips and screws securing things internally. I suppose I am suggesting we try to not take things for granted
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I had this problem and am in middle of getting a replacement unit. However, I am hesitant of the adhesive/heat theory going around, partly from others' reports of clicks, although I heard none (but I didn't push as hard as some) and partly as the ifixit teardown didn't mention adhesive other than partially securing the battery to the frame--and, adhesive is something they always like to mention. Moreover, the pics they show suggest a mixture of clips and screws securing things internally. I suppose I am suggesting we try to not take things for granted
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I've been hearing the same. It sounds like people are assuming it's adhesive when it's really some sort of retainer clip that locks the device in place. I can't really comment one way or another, but based on what I've been hearing from user reports, I'd bet my car it's clips... not adhesive. But hey, I may be wrong and riding my bike to work tomorrow.
You are right, I should not be making definitive statements, I checked iFixit and I do not see a glue there but at the min my screen issues have something to do with heat and expansion, once the device on charge or in my hand for extended period of time the left side separates and rises .5-1mm above the bezel, I press it in and then it "sticks" for another hour or so. I am perhaps incorrectly assumed an adhesive but it must be a weak clip that cannot hold the glass once body expands... At the end of the day, my goal was to keep this little powerhouse N7 but hate to press that glass in all the time until I break it. I am sure they will eventually fix it in the new builds 3-6 months from now but all I was saying that many many folks are reporting separating bezel issue, it must be more than a coincidence.Returned to Sam's club it but there is no replacement for it for another 30 days or so coming to Sam's Club and by then there can be competitors coming, e.g. nanoiPad. Even though I really liked the Android N7 too bad Asus QA is not in the big league, but you cannot have everything at $199 or $260, quality costs money, I know Motorola overengineered Xoom to stand up on quality and it did.
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I had this problem and am in middle of getting a replacement unit. However, I am hesitant of the adhesive/heat theory going around, partly from others' reports of clicks, although I heard none (but I didn't push as hard as some) and partly as the ifixit teardown didn't mention adhesive other than partially securing the battery to the frame--and, adhesive is something they always like to mention. Moreover, the pics they show suggest a mixture of clips and screws securing things internally. I suppose I am suggesting we try to not take things for granted
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For anyone having the infamous left side screen lift issue. This includes being able to physically see the glass protruding the silver bezel, screen sponginess, and being able to hear the screen stick/unstick from the adhesive.
After reading this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800418 it is apparent the screws are a hair too long. When tightened all the way, they actually can press the screen glass out.
The easiest thing for anyone to try is to just LOOSEN the screws just 1/4 turn. You are loosening the screws so very little, that they will stay snug as far as holding what they are supposed to, but they will no longer push out on the screen glass. I didn't even bother with finding a screw driver, and just used my pocket knife. My screen was raised in the very middle of the left side, so I only loosened the 2 screws directly under the seperation. I suppose this will not work for everyone, but it's so simple and only took me less than 2 mins, you might as well give it a shot. Good luck!
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If you're going to loosen screws you probably want to Loctite them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29457665&postcount=41
eh hem...what gave you this idea? jk
Just don't overdo it and you'll be fine. No need for loctite, it's only a small turn and the screws are still plenty secure.
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Loosening the screws in some areas will also help with backlight bleed. If you notice a spot near a screw that is really bright, it's most likely a little too tight.
I found this out by testing different "tightness" adjustments. When I went too far, I noticed back light bleed starting to show, loosen it up a bit and it went away.
This actually worked! So far, anyway. We'll see if it's a permanent fix, but it looks promising.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29457665&postcount=41
eh hem...what gave you this idea? jk
Just don't overdo it and you'll be fine. No need for loctite, it's only a small turn and the screws are still plenty secure.
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Loosening the screws in some areas will also help with backlight bleed. If you notice a spot near a screw that is really bright, it's most likely a little too tight.
I found this out by testing different "tightness" adjustments. When I went too far, I noticed back light bleed starting to show, loosen it up a bit and it went away.
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Lol yeah I saw your posts. I mean, that's the same thing I thought of right away. The washers seemed to be a stiff foam, so they compress when screws are tightened. I figured I could loosen them but at the same time keep them snug.
But yeah man good stuff. Did it work for ya?
This.
The washer idea is smart, but for me it caused a more annoying problem. The frame was too thick and pulled the silver trim piece away from the screen and caused a creaking noise at the slightest touch that was way worse than the screen lift.
I just loosened every screw and tightened them back with basically no torque after they stopped turning. All is good now, no creak from the trim and no screen lift, though it's basically flush on he left side
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This.
The washer idea is smart, but for me it caused a more annoying problem. The frame was too thick and pulled the silver trim piece away from the screen and caused a creaking noise at the slightest touch that was way worse than the screen lift.
I just loosened every screw and tightened them back with basically no torque after they stopped turning. All is good now, no creak from the trim and no screen lift, though it's basically flush on he left side
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Cool. So did you end up loosening the screws then? Meaning, when you re-tightened them, you didn't tighten them as tight as they were from the factory?
Very interesting... I thought the glass was supposed to be flush with the bezel, until I read your comment. After looking at it, the left side of my glass is also flush with the bezel, while the right side glass sits just a little lower.
That's no big deal to me though, as long as my screen is seated properly.
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Cool. So did you end up loosening the screws then? Meaning, when you re-tightened them, you didn't tighten them as tight as they were from the factory?
Very interesting... I thought the glass was supposed to be flush with the bezel, until I read your comment. After looking at it, the left side of my glass is also flush with the bezel, while the right side glass sits just a little lower.
That's no big deal to me though, as long as my screen is seated properly.
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Probably a little lighter than factory. Honestly, mine wasn't bad to begin with but like every other ocd person on here, I just couldn't resist opening it up and tightening the screws. At that point, the screen lift started getting worse and I moved on to the other half-dozen or so "fixes" when, it turns out, the screws being too tight was making everything way worse.
But yeah, its been a couple hours now and it still feels real solid. I've got a tpu case on order so regardless I'm done messing with it.
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Probably a little lighter than factory. Honestly, mine wasn't bad to begin with but like every other ocd person on here, I just couldn't resist opening it up and tightening the screws. At that point, the screen lift started getting worse and I moved on to the other half-dozen or so "fixes" when, it turns out, the screws being too tight was making everything way worse.
But yeah, its been a couple hours now and it still feels real solid. I've got a tpu case on order so regardless I'm done messing with it.
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Cool beans. Luckily, like your N7, mine wasn't bad either.
Couldn't really tell it was lifted by looking at it, but it was the sponginess and that horrible stick/un-stick sound. This is the first fix I tried, and luckily it worked. Let me know how yours turns out, with or without the case..
I simply loosened all screws then tightened them up. Also, Part of a sponge bumper was tucked under a copper shield which I untucked.
Now when I push hard on the left part of the screen I don't get the tacky sound when i unpress it. Also, screen isn't as bulged. In fact you can't even tell anymore.
Neither was a real problem on my n7 but I prefer to make it perfect. This solved everything.
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I simply loosened all screws then tightened them up. Also, Part of a sponge bumper was tucked under a copper shield which I untucked.
Now when I push hard on the left part of the screen I don't get the tacky sound when i unpress it. Also, screen isn't as bulged. In fact you can't even tell anymore.
Neither was a real problem on my n7 but I prefer to make it perfect. This solved everything.
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Awesome. Mine wasn't bad either, so I just tried for something simple. It seems like the screws may be too long and pressing on the glass, so I thought to just back them off a hair. 2 minutes later the screen is perfect
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Awesome. Mine wasn't bad either, so I just tried for something simple. It seems like the screws may be too long and pressing on the glass, so I thought to just back them off a hair. 2 minutes later the screen is perfect
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If you take one of the screws out near the central left and shine a light straight down, you will notice that it is open on the other side as in the the screw can pass through. You will also see a portion of the LCD sticking out underneath those screw holes.
I think the LCD isn't suppose to stick out and get underneath the holes, because otherwise the screws won't hit anything and be tightened all the way. I think for some people without screen lift, the partially sticking out LCD might have been crushed and deformed with the screws or the LCD just isn't sticking out as much.
I've been screwing (pardon the pun) about with this some more today, what I have noticed with mine, is if I take the back off and remove all screws the screen sits perfect, put the screws back in, still seems perfect, clip the back on and the screen now sits above the frame on the left, wondering if mine is an issue with the back plate pushing something out of line.
This worked for a while for me but after it heated up the spongy noise returned. HOWEVER I did notice that loosening the screws did fix the touchscreen issue where it was unresponsive at times.
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Lol yeah I saw your posts. I mean, that's the same thing I thought of right away. The washers seemed to be a stiff foam, so they compress when screws are tightened. I figured I could loosen them but at the same time keep them snug.
But yeah man good stuff. Did it work for ya?
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Haha. I was just messing with ya. This is certainly better than adding a shim but I never had the problem. I just wanted to test this out and take my screws back a bit just in case. The other fix is not the way to go as it screws up the casing.
Still no issues though.
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Summerfly said:
If you take one of the screws out near the central left and shine a light straight down, you will notice that it is open on the other side as in the the screw can pass through. You will also see a portion of the LCD sticking out underneath those screw holes.
I think the LCD isn't suppose to stick out and get underneath the holes, because otherwise the screws won't hit anything and be tightened all the way. I think for some people without screen lift, the partially sticking out LCD might have been crushed and deformed with the screws or the LCD just isn't sticking out as much.
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Thanks for this.
I'm going to open it up again and consider using mini-washers, or something, just to ensure my now-tightened screws are not pressing on the LCD.
Genius. Popped the back off with a knife, loosened the screws down the left side of the screen a quarter of a turn, and now it's perfect - no more squeaking, no more raised screen. Took about 2 mins to do it.
Also, for those who want a decent cover, I bought a Belkin case from PC World yesterday (quite pricey at £30 but I like to try these things out before I buy them rather than just buy online). Even though it's designed for the 7" Samsung Galaxy Tab, it's a near-perfect fit for the Nexus 7. Speaker cut-out is in the wrong place but it doesn't affect the quality noticeably (besides, I hook mine up via Bluetooth to a Jawbone Jambox). Also got myself a sat nav mount and stuck it on the wall next to my bed, so my Nexus 7 is now a handy portable TV
I fixed mine without even getting inside. Just used a blowdryer and heat up the side while holding the screen down. Seemed to stay put and still is.
Simply awesome, completely fixed that annoying screen bulge on the left side!
Ok, so I have had the screen lift problem. It's on the left side worst in the middle. I decided I would take it apart and do the shims between the screws thing. But when I got it open the lift disappeared. So it's a problem with the back pressing up just enough... I noticed a pretty thick piece of foam right on the center left so I removed it. Just replaced the case and tada the tape is holding the screen flat just fine now. Just thought I would pass this on with the other fixes.
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Ok, so I have had the screen lift problem. It's on the left side worst in the middle. I decided I would take it apart and do the shims between the screws thing. But when I got it open the lift disappeared. So it's a problem with the back pressing up just enough... I noticed a pretty thick piece of foam right on the center left so I removed it. Just replaced the case and tada the tape is holding the screen flat just fine now. Just thought I would pass this on with the other fixes.
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I noticed last time I opened it that this foam had some compression marks. Likely from pressing against the back. Mine was slightly misaligned, so really only part was compressed. I had the same thought, i.e. remove it. Maybe align it, but it's glued on tight.
So I just removed it. I'll let you know how it turns out in a day or 2.
I also use 3 washers for the top 3 on the left, which helped huge. Hopefully this will make it perfect.
Update Sept 1. This definitely helps. Noticed from pics on another thread that some new models have this foam removed, as shipped. Interesting. Also, on new models, some have screws missing (2 and 4, starting top left). I tried removing screw 2 but when I woke up I noticed creaking and movement at the bezel, when I press my left thumb inwards, which is something I always do. So I put the screw (and washer) back in this morning. Perfect now. But removing this foam was essential, so thanks again.
Makes sense. The screen is dead flat, so it has to be the back case that is separating. Thanks for the info.
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this isn't new and has already been covered already.
dilldoe said:
this isn't new and has already been covered already.
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Can you point to where the foam issue was already covered? It was the first I saw.... maybe they have more pointers... Links?
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Can you point to where the foam issue was already covered? It was the first I saw.... maybe they have more pointers... Links?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29028614&postcount=237
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Can you point to where the foam issue was already covered?
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It was covered in the main screen lift thread, which is like 90 pages long and has every possible remedy tested, dissected and mostly debunked. The fact is there are several factors causing the lift and there need to be several solutions to really fix it 100%, and permanently. You can make it better in various ways, one of which is removing that foam, although I believe the foam is there to keep the back from flexing and compressing those metal "prongs", causing them to lose contact. So you might have other problems later without the foam. I probably wouldn't mess with it, personally.
I personally think a workable solution for most N7's with this problem would be to shave that foam down evenly by like 0.3mm, then clamp the screen to the trim and leave it in a hot car like that for a day or so to re-adhere, without the back cover on. Then cool the tablet down and replace the back cover. The hard part is evenly shaving down the foam; it is just a tiny bit too big. But it should be present.
Well I thought I could live with it but the lift is back.... I have also noted that my 8gb gets really poor wifi connection compared to my wife's 16gb. All the clips are still contacting the back plate but I can see no difference in signal with or without the back on. So, I just called google and they are shipping out a new unit for me tomorrow. Hopefully this one is better.
Took the back off to look at screen lift fix. Low & behold 3 screws missing on the LH side of the unit. Also some fingerprints on the copper plates, 2 loose (more than 1 full turn to tighten) screws on the RH side, metal tape/gauze over phone socket loose.
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...So you might have other problems later without the foam...
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Thanks for all this info. My foam was glued at about 25 degrees off-angle, and clearly compressed at the corner closest to the bezel, so a problem for mine' right from the factory. I didn't get it all off, but most for sure. Once removed, the bulge I had at that point between the bezel and rear case was gone. So was some screen lift' although the washers helped more for that. Not a big win, just another step forward.
I'm still curious why some pics on other thread show no foam, as shipped.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30974024
From my looking, it's in a seemingly non-functional gap, and presses down a wide cable (or something). I earlier traced movement of that cable as the source of 'creaking' I was having, i.e. when it moved against another piece of plastic beside the bezel. I put some lithium where it rubbed and the creaking stopped. Mind you I did that (and the 3 washers precisely tightened) before i removed most of the foam.
My Tf101 was a lot less maintenance than this one. But once done (crossing fingers lol), it's causing my iPad3 to collect dust. This thing just screams. Loving it.
Again, thanks for the info.
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Is anyone else's xz1 compact body bent or not straight?
I have had mind a couple of weeks and been super careful with it, so I don't think I bent it or something. I didn't notice until today when I set my phone down on a flat table as I was finicking with it when I noticed it rocked back and forth and wasn't perfectly flat to the table. It is particularly noticeable in the front side (I think part of this is due to the edges around the screen not being completely flush or evenly flat. The back does it much less, but I think that may because of the curved back on the back. After looking down the back side of the phone I realized it was clearly not straight and could see It curve.
Anyone with similar issues? Thanks!
The border around the camera lens is protuding a tiny bit from the back of the phone, to protect the lens from scratches.
The top and bottom edges of the phone are protruding to protect the screen from being scratched when placed face down.
Though it does not rock for me.
What sort of curve?
Mine doesn't rock when on its back, and I have a screen protector on the front which is slightly taller than the top and bottom metal caps, so it is also stable.
When I bought my phone in store, per procedure they had me inspect the phone for obvious damage or defects.
The first unit I got unfortunately had assembly issues with the top and bottom metal caps, there was a noticeable gap on both ends and they protruded unevenly. One end protruded to the front, and the other to the back.
At first they tried to play it off as non-issue, citing manufacturing tolerance, and refused to let me exchange a new one, but I insisted and eventually they agreed to give me another unit, which is the one I'm currently using.
Does your unit have similar unevenness with the metal caps? Maybe that's the cause of the instability. I do not perceive any curves on the body of my phone.
The border around the camera lens is protuding a tiny bit from the back of the phone, to protect the lens from scratches.
The top and bottom edges of the phone are protruding to protect the screen from being scratched when placed face down.
Though it does not rock for me.
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I didn't think about the camera, good point, that may be some of the issue when it's on its back. The rocking when it's on its back is mild, so it may be the camera lens ring. However, I can look down the phone close with my naked eye and notice the bend pretty easily.
I do realize the front 'metal caps' protrude a little to protect the screen, but as mhaha says below, those edges are not necessarily uneven. The top metal cap sticks out further, in general, than the bottom. Individually, if I run my finger down the cap edges on the face of the phone I think I can feel where they get closer/further from the screen in places (it is very slight, so maybe that one is more in my head). I also didn't notice the uneven gap edge until you said that, I can't really physically feel that one so I think it's a little less of an issue. But, yes, on the left side of my screen it's super snug up against the side bezel and on the right I can see a very slight gap, in comparison.
My phone rocks bad on its face/front , diagonally from the cameras corner to the corner opposite.
I have actually requested my return (I ordered mine online) and will very likely be sending it back. I am not sure ill get a replacement either, for now just the return.
Thank you both very much!
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What sort of curve?
Mine doesn't rock when on its back, and I have a screen protector on the front which is slightly taller than the top and bottom metal caps, so it is also stable.
When I bought my phone in store, per procedure they had me inspect the phone for obvious damage or defects.
The first unit I got unfortunately had assembly issues with the top and bottom metal caps, there was a noticeable gap on both ends and they protruded unevenly. One end protruded to the front, and the other to the back.
At first they tried to play it off as non-issue, citing manufacturing tolerance, and refused to let me exchange a new one, but I insisted and eventually they agreed to give me another unit, which is the one I'm currently using.
Does your unit have similar unevenness with the metal caps? Maybe that's the cause of the instability. I do not perceive any curves on the body of my phone.
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you may be having this issue?
https://sumahoinfo.com/xperia-xz1-compact-so-02k-docomo-fuguai-issue-body-twisted-distorted
It's in Japanese but the photo explains, I think.
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you may be having this issue?
https://sumahoinfo.com/xperia-xz1-compact-so-02k-docomo-fuguai-issue-body-twisted-distorted
It's in Japanese but the photo explains, I think.
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Yeah, my top metal cap isn't as in line as the bottom, now that I see that. Thanks very much! That would definitely contribute to a wobble on a flat surface.
But, there are still all the other issues I've noted, so I'm quite confident it's a number of issues contributing to it all.
Thanks!
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you may be having this issue?
https://sumahoinfo.com/xperia-xz1-compact-so-02k-docomo-fuguai-issue-body-twisted-distorted
It's in Japanese but the photo explains, I think.
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Yeah, my top metal cap isn't as in line as the bottom, now that I see that. Thanks very much! That would definitely contribute to a wobble on a flat surface.
But, there are still all the other issues I've noted, so I'm quite confident it's a number of issues contributing to it all.
Thanks!
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The photo isn't quite a good descriptor of the problem though.
The photo suggests that it's just the way the metal end-caps are installed is what's causing the rocking.
If you run the link through a translator, the author states that the metal caps are misaligned because the plastic/glass-fiber body itself is warped.
So you may want to look at getting the phone replaced.
I dropped my phone on the road 2nd day of use. The metal edge got scratched, but the phone survived. The only other issue I noticed was twisted body. Looking from the edge, the twisted edge was easy to notice, and surface wobble was also there. I held the edges of the phone and put some pressure in opposite direction (trying to twist it back), and now my phone seems straight/aligned).
Please don't try this at home and come complain to me if something goes wrong. Since I dropped my phone, I couldn't just return it and get it replaced. Also not sure if the drop twisted it, or just pressure in my jeans pocket. Also not sure if the twist will come back. For now, the phone is fine.
I just bought XZ1 (not XZ1C) in UK, and having similar issue.
I'm not sure if the "cap" in misplaced or the whole body is twisted, but when I put the device face down, it rocks
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The photo isn't quite a good descriptor of the problem though.
The photo suggests that it's just the way the metal end-caps are installed is what's causing the rocking.
If you run the link through a translator, the author states that the metal caps are misaligned because the plastic/glass-fiber body itself is warped.
So you may want to look at getting the phone replaced.
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Thanks for the further insight, I'm grateful! I will be returning the phone. I'm undecided on whether or not I would like to purchase another after. I kinda wanted to see how the future quality/reviews are more. Based on some with similar issues, I'm not sure ill be getting another, but I'll see I guess. Thanks again!
I dropped my phone on the road 2nd day of use. The metal edge got scratched, but the phone survived. The only other issue I noticed was twisted body. Looking from the edge, the twisted edge was easy to notice, and surface wobble was also there.
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Thanks very much for your input! I appreciate it. The body twist and warp (these are better way to describe it, thanks, as the phone isn't so much curved/bent as it, or the single piece back/body specifically, is warped) is quite noticeable with the one I have too (looking at the edge like you said). However, I don't think I've dropped the phone (too hard at least and no visible scrathes, scrapes, etc.) I also keep a phone in a coat pocket, bag, or just take it out and set it down when I'm not out and about, so I don't think I would have caused the warp myself. Thanks again!
Greetings,
Dropped my phone a full foot. Now the screen flickers green. I'm guessing the screen is broken. Any way to test that other than replacing it?
How do screen replacements go with this device? I'm pretty handy myself and might even attempt it if I could confirm it's the screen that's broken. I've done my own screen replacements before, but it's been some time.
Any chance the screen ribbon cable could be loose? There is no visible damage.
Thanks.
PS: of course, I have no insurance/protection. Oii.
Don't feel too bad, one time I dropped a pro cam on a ESD padded work bench top from about 6 inches and did more damage to that $7G cam than your smartphone retails for
$hit happens even in controlled environments... get a good case moving forward.
It could be a loose connector.
Or a fractured solder joint. The BGA chipsets don't like it when the mobo flexes.
You could replace the display only to learn it was actually a mobo failure. I lean more towards a mobo failure if there's no visible damage to the display.
Pull the cover and inspect it... an easy fix is always a great fix.
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...Or a fractured solder joint. The BGA chipsets don't like it when the mobo flexes.
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Oii... Thanks for this thought; I was afraid of something like this.
Makes me wonder if metal/glass phones hold up better?
ToryEarly said:
Oii... Thanks for this thought; I was afraid of something like this.
Makes me wonder if metal/glass phones hold up better?
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May not be as bad as it seems...
On my Note 10+'s I use the Zizo Bolt case. Without it my first one would be history by now, if it doesn't corner hit on a drop it face plants. I've dropped it close to a dozen times from 1-4 feet onto concrete with zero damage. I don't like handling it without a case as it's a slippery fish
A good case reduces/lengthens the G loading spike making impacts survivable as well as protecting the exterior.
A 2 layer design like the Bolt provides excellent drop protection. It's important that the out shell or whatever holds the case together doesn't come loose on impact...
For those memorable flying end over end multiple impact events. Even with a small drop though I inspect for damage.
I'm actually in a similar situation. Dropped my phone from about 1 or 2 feet and I have the green screen flickering as well. The phone works. I can get call and talk via headphones. But my question that I'm trying to figure out is if there is a way to put the phone into file transfer mode from a connected computer since I can't do it from the phone.
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I'm actually in a similar situation. Dropped my phone from about 1 or 2 feet and I have the green screen flickering as well. The phone works. I can get call and talk via headphones. But my question that I'm trying to figure out is if there is a way to put the phone into file transfer mode from a connected computer since I can't do it from the phone.
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Developer options>usb settings.
You need to load the driver on the PC maybe too.
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Developer options>usb settings.
You need to load the driver on the PC maybe too.
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That's not the issue (already rooted). The screen is non-responsive.
GrandAdmiral said:
That's not the issue (already rooted). The screen is non-responsive.
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Uh-oh. If it was working before the plunge you likely either had a connector dislodge or suffer a mobo failure from the impact.
It's happened to me twice both from barely 1 feet. The screen itself was not cracked. Ifixit luckily submitted it as a manufacturers defect since the screen wasn't broken. The first time they were nice enough to not wipe my phone. The second time they did wipe my phone without telling me. Something about their policy uh.
Ended up going with the poetic revolution case. And it's handled a 2ft drop without issue. Had the Spigen tough amor prior.
They said just replacing the screen resolved the issue.
Sorry to hear this OP.
$hit does happen.
I was using an old htc 10 for about 4 years, I finally upgraded to the Pixel 5 on release day.
About a month late, on my birthday I had it on my laptop and it drops flat faced down on the screen.
by some act of God I actually had a glass screen protector on it and had no damage!
I now don't use a scren protector, but oh well.
Somehow the back glass camera is cracked though, even though it wasn't ever dropped after this..
I think I'll look into the 5a instead of fixing it. It's not much more.
andybones said:
Sorry to hear this OP.
$hit does happen.
I was using an old htc 10 for about 4 years, I finally upgraded to the Pixel 5 on release day.
About a month late, on my birthday I had it on my laptop and it drops flat faced down on the screen.
by some act of God I actually had a glass screen protector on it and had no damage!
I now don't use a scren protector, but oh well.
Somehow the back glass camera is cracked though, even though it wasn't ever dropped after this..
I think I'll look into the 5a instead of fixing it. It's not much more.
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The screen protector will transmit a lot of the G loading directly to the phone. Something is going to absorb that energy one way or another. Not always obvious either.
Ideally if you have a good case with raised display guards it will soak up enough of the energy so that nothing is stressed to the breaking point.
Mobos and cams are intolerant of high G loading and flexing. A monetary G spike of 2000Gs* can be generated by a fall from bench height to a hard floor. Hard materials absorb little energy unless they bend or break; they can readily conduct it though to internal assemblies... or the other side of the phone.
*how to destroy an IC by dropping it on the floor.
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*how to destroy an IC by dropping it on the floor.
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So you're saying I should probably be really gentle with these ceramic TD8749s and MD8755s then?
V0latyle said:
So you're saying I should probably be really gentle with these ceramic TD8749s and MD8755s then?
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If they land on a hard floor on the body rather than leads they can pull enormous G's. As I got more experienced I was more careful not to drop IC's and to use ESD protocols with the more sensitive chips.
There are a couple of issues with dropped phones The internal bonds to the chip can be broken. Even more fragile is the mobo's solder flowed on components especially the BGA chipsets. No way to inspect those for damage. Internal mobo traces may also be opened. With bent frames and broken glass the odds the mobo or display will be damage increases.
Some of the cams have moving parts as well as their sensor's mounting points. More recently that became more of a concern to me as they aren't cheap and a pain to replace.
If the manufacturer uses lead free solder it's a death wish for the device. No lead solder is much more brittle and has poor flow characteristics making the bond is less secure.
Cell phones are exempt from the lead ban but who knows if they use it? No lead solder becomes even more brittle in cold temperatures. Conformal coating is also needed for fine pitch traces to prevent silver dendrites for forming with the no lead solder over time.
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If they land on a hard floor on the body rather than leads they can pull enormous G's. As I got more experienced I was more careful not to drop IC's and to use ESD protocols with the more sensitive chips.
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I was being sarcastic can't be too careful with 50 year old IC's
V0latyle said:
I was being sarcastic can't be too careful with 50 year old IC's
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Didn't recognize the numbers. LM3914, I still be careful with that cool IC