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Anyone else have a broken power button from regular day to day use?
Mine started acting up like 2 weeks ago. I noticed I had to press the power button more than once to turn the screen off/on. As the days went by the presses increased til it eventually gave out entirely this weekend as I landed in Vegas. I had to get someone to call my phone so I can turn the screen on and download "no lock" to enable trackball wake. I've also been paranoid about not letting the battery die since I won't be able to turn the phone on.
Calling Google/HTC tomorrow.
Btw, this is my second nexus one. First one had dead pixels. I had this second one maybe a month before the power button gave up!
Bummer.. Thought this might be a weak point in the design. Thanks for the heads up on "no lock". Will use that when @ home.
I've read about it happening a couple of times
Oh my god I'm having the same problem. Thought my N1's power button is now getting harder and harder to press to turn the screen on and off.
I was so angry about that, but after sometimes I figured out that the problem is not from the button (the hardware), it's because of the software. I dont know exactly from what apps which caused this, uninstalled some apps (especially apps for root only - which I thought are the main causes), but sometimes the problem occurs.
*Im using MCR r13.
And for your poor N1's button, I think it's broken because when facing with that trouble, you tried to press too hard... Bless your N1!
(Sorry for my bad english!)
Not A Software Problem...
The issue you are having is indeed a hardware problem. Well for the OP it is. I had a Nexus that was in the same situation. You can tell its not a hardware problem because if you remove the battery and put battery back in, the phone wont power up unless you press the power button like 8 to 10 times. That my friend is a hardware situation.
I created a small fix for mine. I should have created a youtube video of it lol. What I did was removed the back cover and batter and inbetween the Power Button and The Phone itself youll see like a small crack or very small gap of space between the phone and button. I stuck some small very small thin piece of paper in that gap. This will raise the buttun away from the phone just a lil bit. Put the battery back in and back cover back on. And noticed my button working 100% again.
So long story short the button itself starts to not make contact with the switch on the mother board or somethin. My bootloader was unlocked so i never got HTC involved. If your on cyan lates rom you can set it to wake via trackball under settings.
In the end, I ended up selling that N1 on craigslist for loot for a HD2 and HD2 was gargage (out dated OS and 65k color max display at LCD) and ended up selling the HD2 and got another nexus.
PS - I did have one of them argyle clear body cases on it that fit the N1 very snug and tightly, and wonder if that had somethin to do with power button goin out since it was rubbing against it repeatily.
same story happend to me, with a regular daily usage. It really bummers me, i unlocked the bootloader too, so i cant send it to HTC.
And I can't sell it in this condition too, sux!
Anyone with the same problem that sent it to HTC?
My wife had her's for about a week before having issues with the power button. Got a replacement and haven't had issues yet.
I had the same problem as the OP. Had to push the button several times to get the phone to respond.
HTC swapped my original N1 with dust under the screen and then sent me one that eventually had the power button crap out.
My GF's Nexus One has had no issues at all and we bought around the same time. My current (third) N1 is now rooted so I'm crossing my fingers that I won't need to deal with HTC again.
I love both the N1 and Android, but from my experience, I'm shocked and disappointed with it's poor build quality.
hypersonicx said:
The issue you are having is indeed a hardware problem. Well for the OP it is. I had a Nexus that was in the same situation. You can tell its not a hardware problem because if you remove the battery and put battery back in, the phone wont power up unless you press the power button like 8 to 10 times. That my friend is a hardware situation.
I created a small fix for mine. I should have created a youtube video of it lol. What I did was removed the back cover and batter and inbetween the Power Button and The Phone itself youll see like a small crack or very small gap of space between the phone and button. I stuck some small very small thin piece of paper in that gap. This will raise the buttun away from the phone just a lil bit. Put the battery back in and back cover back on. And noticed my button working 100% again.
So long story short the button itself starts to not make contact with the switch on the mother board or somethin. My bootloader was unlocked so i never got HTC involved. If your on cyan lates rom you can set it to wake via trackball under settings.
In the end, I ended up selling that N1 on craigslist for loot for a HD2 and HD2 was gargage (out dated OS and 65k color max display at LCD) and ended up selling the HD2 and got another nexus.
PS - I did have one of them argyle clear body cases on it that fit the N1 very snug and tightly, and wonder if that had somethin to do with power button goin out since it was rubbing against it repeatily.
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Wow... I'm shaking my head at this. You'd think HTC would have thought about this some more...
Crossing my fingers, cuz my power button still "works the first time, most of the time"..
Yea I gave myself a good month of testing this phone before even considering rooting and I'm glad I did.
My first unit was rooted and it was hell to get htc to support my fix over a dead pixel so naturally on my second phone I avoided rooting.
With the build quality on these phones (unfortunately) I would recommend NOT rooting for a good month or so to make sure you don't need warranty support.
I've ended up doing the repair option because I can never justify a $529 hold. Will get a ****ty flip phone loaner from Tmobile for the time being.
sorry to hear your issues but thank you for pointing out that app "no lock". I've been waiting for something like this! Now I can wake my Nexus with the volume button rather than the power button(wear and tear) or the trackball(it gets dirty from touching too much so I never do).
Have any app can replace power button?
I got a ****ty samsung flip phone loaner from tmobile. Ironically, I feel the call quality on these old phones are better than all the smart phones i've owned lol
Will this issue eventually happen to every one? That would be horrible..
Eclair~ said:
Will this issue eventually happen to every one? That would be horrible..
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I guess that all depends on how much people "baby" their phones. Then again, we all die eventually.. same with technology.
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I guess that all depends on how much people "baby" their phones. Then again, we all die eventually.. same with technology.
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Phone was never dropped and was in one of those gel cases. I use my phone heavily but no more than I've used any of my other phones. That power button is definitely not made for heavy use. I'd hope froyo has a trackball awake feature because from what I read on the interweb this problem is definitely not exclusive to a select few people.
That really blows about the power button. I've heard of that alot now and feared it as well. I'd never heard of the "nolock" program so I'm really glad you mentioned it. Downloaded it and fired it up. Talk about a sweet program, I can't believe it flies to far under the radar. I'm not rooted so it's definately a great program as I wanted trackball wake. Plus you can create a widget on the desktop so you can toggle it off. Sorry about your phone but thanks for the program. I hope you get your phone fixed soon.
Wow a 1 day turn around. My phone should be back here tomorrow in the morning. Seems like HTC customer care is improving?
uansari1 said:
Wow... I'm shaking my head at this. You'd think HTC would have thought about this some more...
Crossing my fingers, cuz my power button still "works the first time, most of the time"..
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Eh TBH I've heard of iphones with the same problem. Manufacturing tolerances in any product inevitably produce a few faulty units...that's what the warranty is for.
Just be glad your N1 will never decide that its automatic backup is now encrypted and password-protected and that you can't use your phone until you figure out what the password you never set is (happened on my brother's iphone 3G)
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I created a small fix for mine. I should have created a youtube video of it lol. What I did was removed the back cover and batter and inbetween the Power Button and The Phone itself youll see like a small crack or very small gap of space between the phone and button. I stuck some small very small thin piece of paper in that gap. This will raise the buttun away from the phone just a lil bit. Put the battery back in and back cover back on. And noticed my button working 100% again.
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Can you please explain how to remove the power button? Can it be removed alone or you have to remove all the screws and body of the phones?
Has anyone got problems with their camera not working?
I press the camera button and nothing happens, if I am in the camera app and press it, it focuses but then does nothing. No picture is taken. It is the same with this and video recorder.
I should point out that the button is not broken, it depresses, and the camera application reacts by beeping, but a photo is never taken (or a video for that matter)
I have an O2 Uk HD7. I'll call HTC soon, but thought Id start a thread to see if others have a similar prob.
LOL. Im an idiot.
The button is a 2 stage button, 1 for focus' and then harder for the actual photo.
BAH!
I take no shame in admitting I did the same thing
Oh good, im glad im not the only one We can blame the button being a bit too hard!
I did the same thing! And I'm aphotographer. The button is a bit hard and you have to press it all the way down for it to take ths pic. plus the button is on an angleed surface, you have to press it at an angle for it to work right.
It also wont work if the proximity sensor is activated, like when it's in your pocket
lol I did the same thing. For the life of me I could not figure out how to take a picture. But I eventually figured it out. Btw, when your phone is off just hold the camera button for a few seconds and the camera will come up. Pretty neat feature.
I had this issue too. The camera button is quite flush with the device. I've missed a couple of shots because of this. Not a big deal. Just have to get used to it. I'm just glad to have a dedicated camera button.
Yet another idiot calling!!!
Thanks guys, I had the same problem lastnight. So that's one hitch sorted..... Now for the ringtones!!!
Yeah. I'm no idiot (most of the time) and I have to say, it took me a few snaps to get it down and it's still a little difficult. Bottom line is the button doesn't make it real easy at all. In fact, it's a primary contributor to a few crappy shots I've taken.
same stupd user i was. finaly i got it - but the result in sharpness is big bad difference in relation to hd2.
I tried to take a quick pic of my parking place in a parking garage today, I'm a left-handed and I keep my phone in my left pant pocket, I was being rushed by my friends and tried to take a pic of the sign but I was blocking the proximity sensor. I realized this at the last moment and managed to snag a blurry shot as the elevator doors opened. I'll need some more time with this phone to get used to that.
But at least I don't have any pictures of the inside of my pockets.
I was on the phone with TMobile setting up a warranty exchange for my busted camera when I discovered this thread. Camera not busted luckily. Strange setup. Work around I noticed was holding the button softly then pressing power.
ckacey said:
I tried to take a quick pic of my parking place in a parking garage today, I'm a left-handed and I keep my phone in my left pant pocket, I was being rushed by my friends and tried to take a pic of the sign but I was blocking the proximity sensor. I realized this at the last moment and managed to snag a blurry shot as the elevator doors opened. I'll need some more time with this phone to get used to that.
But at least I don't have any pictures of the inside of my pockets.
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Well the camera is actually of not a very good quality. Some pictures are truly sharp but for that many things like light, angles and luck have to come together. And ofcourse the button adds to the miserable pics.
I just had my HD7 for only 3 weeks, and on the 2nd week of usage the camera button feels somewhat rough, then after 1 more week, a visible tarnish color is present, underneath seems orange. I was told that such claim from warranty is not acceptable and that I have to pay for button replacement.
I used the camera only 5 times and I have the same problem
i just found out today that i have same problem... what the hell is that..? I hardly ever use the camera...
This is real FAIL...
I use the camera all the time and I don't have this problem
same issue on both power and a bit less the camera button. didnt see it until i polished it though ...
Yep same, orange color coming out on the camera button. Ironic given that I don't even use the camera on this much because the button's so hard to press (+ takes so long to capture photo) that it's almost impossible to take usable, in-focus photos with it.
power button: Too recessed and flat, to the point where I now have to use my fingernail to power on the device.
volume button: Flimsy to the point where I can literally slide it up and down. I can also hear it jingle when the device vibrates.
Backcover Flimsy, moves around too much and is never tightly secured.
hardware: When I unplug my device from the charger and the screen is getting ready to time out, it flashes green, then times out... (this looks like it's going to create bigger issues down the road)
Power button: 1 in 20 HD7's I have exhibited the behavior you mention. It went away however. I would advise against using your fingernails if at all possible.
Volume Button: Again, 1 in 20 have this, and unfortunately it's the one I carry around. Two other HD7's I personally used did not have this.
I'd try to get it replaced if I were you.
I'm 2 for 2 on the first two annoyances (power and volume button).
I'm getting it replaced again (for the third time) tomorrow morning. I've also noticed these problems with the store models at various T-Mobile stores.
If I have the same problem with my third device, I'm returning it and getting my refund. Omnia 7, here I come.
Hmmm... I don't care much for the power button placement, but I haven't seen any of the other things you mentioned.
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Power button: 1 in 20 HD7's I have exhibited the behavior you mention. It went away however. I would advise against using your fingernails if at all possible.
Volume Button: Again, 1 in 20 have this, and unfortunately it's the one I carry around. Two other HD7's I personally used did not have this.
I'd try to get it replaced if I were you.
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regarding issue #1, how did the problem go away? did some mechanism inside shift causing the power button to pop out more? just wondering?
i also have the loose battery cover. very annoying.
also about the screen... havent seen this mentioned before. i have a slight gap at the left and right edges of the screen where it meets the chrome-ish border. its pretty easy for particles to get stuck in there. compared to the hd2, this gap is pretty noticeable.
I thought I was the only one with these issues lol, figured the recessed power button was just a design oversight
@jimbonics: just wondering, but why do you advise against using your fingernail?
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jimbonics said:
Power button: 1 in 20 HD7
Volume Button: Again, 1 in 20 have this
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Seriously? I checked a batch of HD7 in malaysia, and exceptionally, all of them had this issue. You're just so lucky you dont have it
daaango said:
why do you advise against using your fingernail?
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Maybe because of this ?
Thanks Shu and daaango.
I knew I wasn't crazy in thinking this was an issue only I was experiencing.
I've also read several phone reviews, and a lot of the reviewers mentioned about the power button being recessed and stating frustration waking up the device.
I don't know how HTC can fluff up something so important. I mean, what good is a product if you can't power it on; wake it up? One would think they would put emphasis on having a solid foundation on the power button.
Melcali: Yeah, on one phone the power button managed to become flushed, to the point the user had to use their fingernail (even though i found it easy to turn on with the flat of my finger, almost like it was capacitive). However, next day it had 'popped out' a bit and had become less recessed and hasn't been a problem for him since.
daango: In addition to what Shu posted, using your fingernail is likely going to cause you to press the button in harder than it needs to be, which would likely cause the button to be crammed in more and more over time. If it can't be prevented, it can't, I'm just advising against it.
I've got two unopened spares. I'm going to crack them open and see if the volume button jiggles.
Ah, thanks shu and jimbonics for explaining that
Honestly, I don't think it can be helped. Maybe my fingers are too round or something, but using my fingernail seems like the only option right now. I might try adding layers of tape on the button so its easier to press but idk yet... it might take away from the aesthetics
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All five units I've come across so far -- my defective original (corrupted memory), my current one, a second defective one (also corrupted memory), its replacement, and an in-store demo phone -- have the same issues:
Recessed power button
Very difficult to press camera button (basically useless)
Loose volume rocker (the case opening is about 0.8 mm too long for the rocker, so it moves around)
Imperfect battery cover fit (the plastic cover flexes from the opening process, so usually doesn't fit perfectly)
Weak screen support in bottom-right (press a bit on the search key and you'll see waves on the LCD)
On the two that I've had long enough to use, the clear coat on the kickstand is flaking off, and the Windows Phone logo, which was barely visible to begin with, has almost completely faded away on one of them.
Kind of sad that HTC screwed up so badly given that the HD7 is a barely-modified HD2, which was among the best-built phones on the market.
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All five units I've come across so far -- my defective original (corrupted memory), my current one, a second defective one (also corrupted memory), its replacement, and an in-store demo phone -- have the same issues:
Recessed power button
Very difficult to press camera button (basically useless)
Loose volume rocker (the case opening is about 0.8 mm too long for the rocker, so it moves around)
Imperfect battery cover fit (the plastic cover flexes from the opening process, so usually doesn't fit perfectly)
Weak screen support in bottom-right (press a bit on the search key and you'll see waves on the LCD)
On the two that I've had long enough to use, the clear coat on the kickstand is flaking off, and the Windows Phone logo, which was barely visible to begin with, has almost completely faded away on one of them.
Kind of sad that HTC screwed up so badly given that the HD7 is a barely-modified HD2, which was among the best-built phones on the market.
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wow, you have had a lot of problems. I'm still on my original hd7 since second week of november.
1. power button is slightly recessed, but no problems pushing it with my finger (not nail)
2. camera button does have some orange on it, but it functions properly.
3. volume buttons work fine, maybe a little slide to the rocker, but doesn't effect controls
4. no flaking of clearcoat, no wp7 logo coming off, no lcd discoloration no matter how hard I press on the search or back buttons.
5. Back cover fits properly. I haven't had much reason to pull it off after initial placement of sim card, thanks to phone not constantly freezing. There is a slight gap where the back cover meets the smaller cover.
What are you subjecting your phones to???
I agree the hd7 build quality might not be iphone, but it's holding up well for me. It's not like we have a lot of choices on t-mobile, the dvp has way more problems at this point.
amb9800 speaks the truth. I went through 3 different units that had defects to varying degrees. I had similar issues with the EVO as well. HTC are notorious for shoddy craftsmanship.
I have the same problems they started AFTER my 30 days .. So i havent tryed to go and change at my local T-Mobile!! Is there any loop in the contract or something that would let me change it for anither phone and pay difference/get a refund xD
have the same problems as the op
While I can understand the draw of having no physical home button (more screen, yay), it has already annoyed me a few times while typing and and trying to hit the space bar and instead hitting the button.
Maybe there is a stronger sensitivity setting that I missed?
Anyone done this a lot yet? I also noticed that the ability to hide the bar stops as soon as you have the keyboard open...
I am beside myself. There are times when I am getting irritated because of complacency and then there are times when I am loving the real estate...
I am having problems swiping up for the navbar and it hits other apps. Or especially if I'm like text messaging and I swipe and my keyboard comes up. I made the nav bar stay on and it helps but I lose the real estate. Hope with root we can disable the navbar and use 3rd party nav bar on the side.
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Maybe there is a stronger sensitivity setting that I missed?
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My phone is still on preorder, so I can't check, but I'm sure I saw somewhere that there is a setting to set the required pressure to activate Home
Yeah, I could have sworn I saw that too, but damned if I can find it now...
Found the link, but no phone yet, so can't test
https://www.phonearena.com/news/How...r-rearrange-buttons-make-it-disappear_id97873
Not in the least, using transparent nav bar layer and I have a gigantic screen. If you want black nav bar always use this. Install like an app and reboot, go to settings>display>nav bar>back ground color>select black>push slider to the right
I prefer a real button
I was annoyed at first, but I do admit I love the taller screen Samsung implemented this time by using the physical/capacitive button area for more screen space, unlike other OEMs content to stick with 16:9 screens and waste that space on soft keys. After all, Samsung lets you hide the nav bar with a quick double-tap.
Having to call up the nav bar for back and recents got old fast, but a Reddit poster clued me in on a neat hidden feature: if you force-press the home button, you can side-swipe for back or recents, no swipe-up for nav bar necessary! It does take some getting used to, though.
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So get rid of the Note 8. The lack of a home button was implemented on the S8 series, it is the new norm.
I am coming from S8+ so no, it doesn't bother me at all. It took all of 5 minutes to get used to it on S8+
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While I can understand the draw of having no physical home button (more screen, yay), it has already annoyed me a few times while typing and and trying to hit the space bar and instead hitting the button.
Maybe there is a stronger sensitivity setting that I missed?
Anyone done this a lot yet? I also noticed that the ability to hide the bar stops as soon as you have the keyboard open...
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no. not at all. this is how it was before. I prefer this way and loving the ability to hide the buttons too. very happy.
Actually it is a pain in the neck, especially when driving and I switched from S8, still don't like it after 6 months. Not a deal breaker, but especially with full screen apps, simple one press turns into frustrating 3,4, sometimes even 5 presses. For that reason most of the time I have full screen disabled, but that beats the whole purpose of having full screen without buttons. That also forces fingerprint reader into back, absolutely huge issue when driving and having the phone mounted. There are workarounds, like having phone unlocked when connected to BT etc, but simplest solutions are the simplest and physical keys were simplest.
Coming from the Note 4, I'm instinctively keep going to press what's not there haha.
Only had it since 11am so can't make a proper judgement yet, it has got better in the last couple of hours though, so don't think it'll be long before it becomes just as natural as hitting the button was.
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Coming from the Note 4, I'm instinctively keep going to press what's not there haha.
Only had it since 11am so can't make a proper judgement yet, it has got better in the last couple of hours though, so don't think it'll be long before it becomes just as natural as hitting the button was.
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but it is there and that's the beauty of the phone. all that gorgeous glass and screen with nothing to take away from it. had no problem when I used older phones and tablets that were the same way. I predict you'll adapt fairly fast. I did.
I have the nav bar auto hide (swipe up to get nav bar), even when hidden you can hard press where the home button usually is to simulate a home button push
I would of NEVER bought the Note 8 if it still had the old, ugly, 2007 iphone home button.
Its 2017, not 2007 peoples.
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Actually it is a pain in the neck, especially when driving and I switched from S8, still don't like it after 6 months. Not a deal breaker, but especially with full screen apps, simple one press turns into frustrating 3,4, sometimes even 5 presses. For that reason most of the time I have full screen disabled, but that beats the whole purpose of having full screen without buttons. That also forces fingerprint reader into back, absolutely huge issue when driving and having the phone mounted. There are workarounds, like having phone unlocked when connected to BT etc, but simplest solutions are the simplest and physical keys were simplest.
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Just hard-press area where home button is. No need to wait for anything to show up.
Coming from a Pixel XL it doesn't bother me at all. Just another Learning curve.
It has a physical home. Press hard in the middle 1 inch from the bottom edge of the phone. Great move on Samsung's part.
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