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Note 4 v. Nexus 6

Well, the Nexus 6 has been announced. These are in the same category. I have a decision to make.
http://www.google.com/nexus/6/
Unfortunately, we may not get reviews until after our return deadline on the Note 4.
Here is what I see as the benefits when comparing both phones:
Note 4 Benefits:
Spen
Potentially better camera?
More premium build quality?
Multi-window, which has been improved
Super AMOLED screen
SD Card
Removable battery
Nexus 6 Benefits:
Stock android, on time system OS updates (and potentially longer support lifetime)
Front facing dual speakers, potentially better?
Cheaper
Better google now hotword support?
Easier to root, unlocked bootloader
Likely smoother, less jitters and stuttering in the UI (some Note 4 reviewers are reporting stutters and jitters)
Cross carrier device, allowing you to jump around carriers, and giving a larger buyer base for resale
Currently unclear:
Battery life comparisons
Also, check out this error on the Nexus 6 page:
"13MP front-facing with optical image stabilization
2MP rear-facing"
Uh, that doesn't seem right.
My biggest concern with the Nexus 6 is the camera, since this is a Motorola made phone. I don't think there is any doubt that the Note 4's camera is better than the Moto X (2014)'s camera. Will that carry over to the Nexus 6?
Let me know if I've missed something in the comparison.

the price is stated at 649 so its not 400 cheaper
never liked motorola screens and no s-pen so you know my answer haha

avenging said:
the price is stated at 649 so its not 400 cheaper
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Where did you see that? Is that confirmed?

androidcentral
Physically, the Nexus 6 looks a lot like the current Moto X, with a front-facing speaker and mic, a metal trim and soft-touch plastic back. The Nexus 6 will come in Midnight Blue and Cloud White, and pricing starts at $649 off contract. The Nexus 6 will be available to pre-order starting late October, with general availability to come in November. Google says it'll be available on contract through AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint, Verizon and U.S. Cellular.

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Nexus 6 has Qi wireless charging. http://www.motorola.com/us/Nexus-6/nexus-6-motorola-us.html at the bottom under Battery.

sparhawk6 said:
Much cheaper, probably like $400 cheaper off-contract
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It's $649 off contract. Its got no external storage either. She's a big sucker compared to the Note 4...
Nexus 6 - 159.3 x 83 x 10.1 mm (6.27 x 3.27 x 0.40 in 184 g (6.49 oz)
Note 4 - 153.5 x 78.6 x 8.5 mm (6.04 x 3.09 x 0.33 in) 176 g (6.21 oz)
Nexus devices have always had the "right" high-end components. How they hang together and things like how good individual features such as the camera and display are sometimes cause them to fall down competitively. We'll see after some testing's done how well Motorola did.
Competition is good.

It also looks like it's shipping with Moto's Turbo Charger so it should be roughly the same charging as the Note 4. No sign of an SD card though.

the NOTE 4 will be better...it has a much better camera, smaller size, s pen, and the history of nexus devices say that the speaker performance are not good...this does have 2 speakers...so i dont know...

Too big and ugly design, no thanks.

9e705ebbf0 said:
It also looks like it's shipping with Moto's Turbo Charger so it should be roughly the same charging as the Note 4. No sign of an SD card though.
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I saw that on the Nexus 9, but didn't see that on the Nexus 6...
EDIT: I see that now. Removed from the list, as both have it.

It's also worth pointing out that they're both AMOLED screens, although I suspect that the Note 4's will be superior to the Nexus'

Do you want the "purity" of something like a Mazda Miata or the "features" of a BMW 3-series convertible? Performance freaks and car guys would pick the Miata. Those more practical and in to convenience would pick the BMW. They're both good handling convertibles but appeal to different people for different reasons. Same thing applies here. The BMW outsells the Miata 15:1 even though it's more expensive BTW.

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I saw that on the Nexus 9, but didn't see that on the Nexus 6...
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Well it's a theory that happens to fit the facts. On the product information page I linked it shows a picture of the charger which is identical to the one pictured here. Couple that with the charging speed and I think it's almost certainly the same charger.

That dual front facing speakers though. Not sure about the audio quality but I really miss the HTC One Max's speakers. IMHO all high end phones SHOULD have that.
Metal rim is a plus.
Now it is a decision over whether to give up S Pen features for Android L + Dual front facing speakers (provided superior audio quality).

avsquare said:
That dual front facing speakers though. Not sure about the audio quality but I really miss the HTC One Max's speakers. IMHO all high end phones SHOULD have that.
Metal rim is a plus.
Now it is a decision over whether to give up S Pen features for Android L + Dual front facing speakers (provided superior audio quality).
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For me this just solidified my desire for a Note 4. Yes, the Nexus 6 is an excellent device and it's wonderful to see them upping the specs in the Nexus line (especially when it comes to battery life). But without an SD card it's just a non-starter for me.

9e705ebbf0 said:
It's also worth pointing out that they're both AMOLED screens, although I suspect that the Note 4's will be superior to the Nexus'
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Sorry, I meant that the Note 4 has a "Super" amoled screen.

9e705ebbf0 said:
Well it's a theory that happens to fit the facts. On the product information page I linked it shows a picture of the charger which is identical to the one pictured here. Couple that with the charging speed and I think it's almost certainly the same charger.
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yes, you are right. I made that change.

9e705ebbf0 said:
It's also worth pointing out that they're both AMOLED screens, although I suspect that the Note 4's will be superior to the Nexus'
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I saw that and wasn't sure it's correct. I wonder who's making the panel? It's not Samsung or their Display Group CEO wouldn't have recently said this...
http://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-is-only-company-buying-subsidiarys-mobile-display-tech/
Going up against Samsung with an inferior AMOLED panel might turn out not to be a great idea on Motorola's part. The Note 4's panel is 14% more power efficient than the N3's 1080P panel. And DisplayMate crowned it "best mobile display" even against the iP6's. That's a tough party to crash.

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yes, you are right. I made that change.
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Aaah yeah sorry about that, I was waiting for the new-users "5 mins between posts" timer to expire and didn't notice you updated your post.
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BarryH_GEG said:
I saw that and wasn't sure it's correct. I wonder who's making the panel? It's not Samsung or their Display Group CEO wouldn't have recently said this...
http://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-is-only-company-buying-subsidiarys-mobile-display-tech/
Going up against Samsung with an inferior AMOLED panel might turn out not to be a great idea on Motorola's part. The Note 4's panel is 14% more power efficient than the N3's 1080P panel. And DisplayMate crowned it "best mobile display" even against the iP6's. That's a tough party to crash.
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If it's anything like the Moto X then it'll be a Samsung-made panel made on last year's process (so yes, inferior to the one we'd expect on the Note 4). Samsung do sell panels to other people, just not in volume.

Love the size of the screen but no external sd card is a killer for me. Where am I going t ok put all my Roms and videos.
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Samsung Galaxy Note 4 vs Galaxy Note 3

Covered Design, Features, What was removed as well as added and a Speed Test. Is it worth the jump from the Note 3 to the Note 4?
After using the Note 3 as my main device for a year then getting the Note 4, I like to say that there is a difference and it feels refreshed. With the 1440p Display, New Touch Wiz Ui, and a few new features. Now I did notice that there are somethings missing from the Note 4 that the Note 3 had. There are also something that have been moved and changed, like the Pen Window feature is now used with the Multi-Window feature on the Note 4. Spec wise there is not a massive push but its still a beast of a phone. Watch the Full comparison below and let me know what you think. Is it worth the jump from the Note 3 to the Note 4?
Mod Edit: closed as a duplicate.

I did not think it would be at first, but my phone whore personality came out.
The display, camera, video, metal, and going no contract lm there.
With tomorrow being the day, I doubt I will sleep much tonight. LOL
Dang being a tech freak sucks and is expensive!
Kicking Deuce on the Beast, Note 3

Am sticking with my 3. It has massive Dev support, so it's rooted and pretty much hacked to the max. I have a 128gb sd card in their, so have games on the sd card, music everything. I think had Samsung probably added more ram then maybe they would have had my money. I will however probably get the 4 for my wife though.

marvi0 said:
Am sticking with my 3. It has massive Dev support, so it's rooted and pretty much hacked to the max. I have a 128gb sd card in their, so have games on the sd card, music everything. I think had Samsung probably added more ram then maybe they would have had my money. I will however probably get the 4 for my wife though.
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I am sure you will get some hands on time with her phone though huh? LOL
Kicking Deuce on the Beast, Note 3

128gb ?! Isn't the max supported 64?
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Most modern mid end to high end smartphones can handle 128GB MicroSDs with no problem.
I plan on getting a 128GB MicroSD for my Note 4
Btw, thanks OP for the info, it will help a lot of people. I came from a Galaxy S4 so the Note 4 is a huge jump for me loving this beast!

So far I miss few things from Note 3.
1. Cannot add app shortcuts at the bottom of lock screen. It is right now fixed to default camera app
2. There was "edit after capture", no longer there, have to swype down notification and click 'edit'
3. No software "Air Command" shortcuts available in the market yet
4. Qi receivers are hell expensive
5. Most irritating : no longer SD write access (searching root threads) -> Edit: Just rooted using chainfire's method, tripped KNOX, whatever!! I never had to root Note 3. Google deserves kick in the ass for disabling SD write.

ryan6953 said:
128gb ?! Isn't the max supported 64?
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They can support up to 2tb storage!!! Try using an otg cable and hooking up an external hdd or flashdisk.
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Definately worth the upgrade if you can swallow the price (I buy sim free as don't want to be tied into a 2yr contract thanks!). I upgraded from the Note 3 and so many aspects have improved. The camera, battery, style and s pen are all better.
Is it worth the money? Compared to an IP6 definately. Compared to a OnePlus One which is under half the price....well the screen on that isn't as good - I mean sensitivity not pixels. The N4 is so much more complete but whether its worth the additional £350 is down to you personally.
If you have the Note 3 and don't have the cash to upgrade - don't worry about it. Not worth breaking the bank over! The N3 is a fine device and not far off as powerful.
The N4 has some very nice enhancements though, and you'll not be disappointed if you do buy it. Every note model I've owned (all of them) have impressed. I've tried other phones and always end up back on the note.

bonerp said:
Definately worth the upgrade if you can swallow the price (I buy sim free as don't want to be tied into a 2yr contract thanks!). I upgraded from the Note 3 and so many aspects have improved. The camera, battery, style and s pen are all better.
Is it worth the money? Compared to an IP6 definately. Compared to a OnePlus One which is under half the price....well the screen on that isn't as good - I mean sensitivity not pixels. The N4 is so much more complete but whether its worth the additional £350 is down to you personally.
If you have the Note 3 and don't have the cash to upgrade - don't worry about it. Not worth breaking the bank over! The N3 is a fine device and not far off as powerful.
The N4 has some very nice enhancements though, and you'll not be disappointed if you do buy it. Every note model I've owned (all of them) have impressed. I've tried other phones and always end up back on the note.
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Just quoting you.

Note 4 is not worth abandoning the note 3..

UPDATE: After almost two weeks of use, I feel as if my Note 4 has more problems than my Note 3. It crashes and lags worst than what my Note 3 ever did on a bad day.

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UPDATE: After almost two weeks of use, I feel as if my Note 4 has more problems than my Note 3. It crashes and lags worst than what my Note 3 ever did on a bad day.
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I agree! I'm seriously thinking about buying another Note 3 and selling my Note 4, or making a trade with someone.
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Nexus 6 - How does it compare?

Hello!
My first thread there but long time follower of this forum.
I know that we don't have any reviews of the Nexus 6 yet (well nothing substantial enough anyway) and I'm not sure when we will get these, but I have some questions.
1. Is there any point in getting the Nexus 6 when you can potentially get the Note 4 Developer Edition? Same specs overall, slightly smaller screen, potentially better cameras, slimmer.
2. I saw some posts about this before but my question is more specific: Assuming the Nexus 6 gets the previous generation of Samsung's screen (like the Note 3/GS4) - will it have any tweaks to bring it up to scratch? Surely they wont just use the old tech and extend the size of the screen & bump resolution will they? If they did that wouldn't the screen still maintain the same issues as before (low brightness, not as vidid colours etc)? I'm curious to see how the screen really performs IF it is the old tech. I do not think there is any chance at all that the Nexus 6 will use the same screen as the Note 4. This is a Moto phone after all...not a Samsung flagship.
3. Without the advanced camera tech (in regards to shutter speed etc) included in the G3 and iPhone 6+, do you think that the Nexus 6 will be noticeably slower at taking pictures compared with other phones? I see much discussion on this but ultimately this core question has no clear answers (I guess we'll have to wait for reviews but Im asking anyway; I've not seen many good reviewers on shutter speed. E.g. back when the Galaxy Nexus was released I read it was "super super fast" at taking pictures...it takes from 1 to 3 seconds to snap now).
4. At over 1cm thick and with such a large display how solid is this phone expected to be if it is dropped? Im not familiar with Moto phones but if I drop a Galaxy in normal use the screen is usually fine and there is not much more than scratches. I dropped my Nexus 5 on its back once and the entire front of the screen was destroyed. Just curious about the build quality and what is expected here - I've read mixed things about Moto quality so far.
5. If I shell out for two Nexus 6 phones now (yes I need two; one for me and one for my girlfriend) do you think that they will be good for 2 years of use? Or would it be wiser to purchase two Nexus 5 devices now and upgrade to the Nexus '7' phone (or whatever it will be) next year? I ask because this is still 32bit and we are on the cusp of a new era of 64bit Android phones. I feel like the Nexus 6 (while up to date now) will be significantly outpaced (more than usual) come this time next year. I just don't want to be caught out.
Thank you for your time reading my post; happy to hear any kinds of answers
Regards
M

spartanm99 said:
Hello!
My first thread there but long time follower of this forum.
I know that we don't have any reviews of the Nexus 6 yet (well nothing substantial enough anyway) and I'm not sure when we will get these, but I have some questions.
1. Is there any point in getting the Nexus 6 when you can potentially get the Note 4 Developer Edition? Same specs overall, slightly smaller screen, potentially better cameras, slimmer.
2. I saw some posts about this before but my question is more specific: Assuming the Nexus 6 gets the previous generation of Samsung's screen (like the Note 3/GS4) - will it have any tweaks to bring it up to scratch? Surely they wont just use the old tech and extend the size of the screen & bump resolution will they? If they did that wouldn't the screen still maintain the same issues as before (low brightness, not as vidid colours etc)? I'm curious to see how the screen really performs IF it is the old tech. I do not think there is any chance at all that the Nexus 6 will use the same screen as the Note 4. This is a Moto phone after all...not a Samsung flagship.
3. Without the advanced camera tech (in regards to shutter speed etc) included in the G3 and iPhone 6+, do you think that the Nexus 6 will be noticeably slower at taking pictures compared with other phones? I see much discussion on this but ultimately this core question has no clear answers (I guess we'll have to wait for reviews but Im asking anyway; I've not seen many good reviewers on shutter speed. E.g. back when the Galaxy Nexus was released I read it was "super super fast" at taking pictures...it takes from 1 to 3 seconds to snap now).
4. At over 1cm thick and with such a large display how solid is this phone expected to be if it is dropped? Im not familiar with Moto phones but if I drop a Galaxy in normal use the screen is usually fine and there is not much more than scratches. I dropped my Nexus 5 on its back once and the entire front of the screen was destroyed. Just curious about the build quality and what is expected here - I've read mixed things about Moto quality so far.
5. If I shell out for two Nexus 6 phones now (yes I need two; one for me and one for my girlfriend) do you think that they will be good for 2 years of use? Or would it be wiser to purchase two Nexus 5 devices now and upgrade to the Nexus '7' phone (or whatever it will be) next year? I ask because this is still 32bit and we are on the cusp of a new era of 64bit Android phones. I feel like the Nexus 6 (while up to date now) will be significantly outpaced (more than usual) come this time next year. I just don't want to be caught out.
Thank you for your time reading my post; happy to hear any kinds of answers
Regards
M
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Welcome to XDA and may I say an excellent first post !!
1. It depends on what you feel about a physical home button, and what rom you want to run. Running Samsung's software means you won't get pure Android, and running Android means you'll have to give up multi-window, stylus etc. But you would in both cases have removable battery, sd card and an amazing screen. Nexus 6 can't match the first two.
2. Chances of screen matching the Note 4 are very low, but it is a premium device and should use a nice panel with few compromises
3. The camera should be better, the hands on from Verge even commented on it and it seemed pretty fast in the video. The sensor is not the same as Note 4 but it does have better low light performance.
4. Dropping a phone can have wildly different results based on angle. Moto phones have good build quality
5. Its your decision, are you willing to buy 2 N6's, and next year sell and upgrade to the next Nexus? Will you be on contract? You can get one N5 and one N6 to cover both bases.
A lot of your questions will get answered once reviews come out in a few weeks. But if you feel an unholy lust for the phone like some of us do then there really is no decision to be made and its already decided

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Welcome to XDA and may I say an excellent first post !!
1. It depends on what you feel about a physical home button, and what rom you want to run. Running Samsung's software means you won't get pure Android, and running Android means you'll have to give up multi-window, stylus etc. But you would in both cases have removable battery, sd card and an amazing screen. Nexus 6 can't match the first two.
2. Chances of screen matching the Note 4 are very low, but it is a premium device and should use a nice panel with few compromises
3. The camera should be better, the hands on from Verge even commented on it and it seemed pretty fast in the video. The sensor is not the same as Note 4 but it does have better low light performance.
4. Dropping a phone can have wildly different results based on angle. Moto phones have good build quality
5. Its your decision, are you willing to buy 2 N6's, and next year sell and upgrade to the next Nexus? Will you be on contract? You can get one N5 and one N6 to cover both bases.
A lot of your questions will get answered once reviews come out in a few weeks. But if you feel an unholy lust for the phone like some of us do then there really is no decision to be made and its already decided
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Thank you so much for the response I appreciate it
You've made some good points and thanks for the input on the Moto phone quality. I might consider getting 1 N6 for my girlfriend and I might get a replacement N5 (currently we both do have any good phones to use to last us another year.); both would be off contract of course as we are in Australia (purchase directly from Google or Moto unlocked).
I guess I'll have my fingers crossed for a detailed review (or two) to be released just before the presale opens.

Do you have the option of purchasing phones from Xiaomi, Oppo etc in Australia? They make some great phones at very good prices, just a suggestion. I personally am a big fan of Xiaomi due to their MIUI rom.

Oppo are about to announce the N3 so worth watching for
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ECrispy said:
Do you have the option of purchasing phones from Xiaomi, Oppo etc in Australia? They make some great phones at very good prices, just a suggestion. I personally am a big fan of Xiaomi due to their MIUI rom.
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I've never heard of the Xiaomi before but I will look into that thank you! I'm not sure if we have the option to get it here; I've heard of the Oppo but I've never seen one before. I must do some research on this phone too.
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Oppo are about to announce the N3 so worth watching for
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Thanks for this info - I'll have a look at it!

Would anyone here be able to assist me with info on the Xiaomi and other Chinese phones & the quality?
I've looked into the advice in this thread and I've come across an upcoming phone - Vivo PD1305 (specs below).
Questions:
- Are the build quality on these kinds of phones comparable to the Nexus 6/Galaxy series?
- Are the screens comparable to the N6/Galaxy series?
- What about the cameras, radios & sound?
I'm just not sure but the specs on the phone I've mentioned are extremely impressive and what (in my opinion) the Nexus 6 SHOULD have included. Also the price is about $300 cheaper than the Nexus 6 (in Australia).
Specs:
Snapdragon 805
3 gig RAM
6 inch 1440x2560 QHD Display
32gb memory (expandable up to 128gig)
158mm x 81mm x 5.68mm in size
162 grams
An amazing 1.8 16mp rear camera with dual LED Flash
An impressive 8mp front facing camera with LED Flash
Stereo speakers
Fingerprint scanner
3,600 - 4,000mh battery
Price: (AUD equivalent) = $580 outright, unlocked.

spartanm99 said:
Would anyone here be able to assist me with info on the Xiaomi and other Chinese phones & the quality?
I've looked into the advice in this thread and I've come across an upcoming phone - Vivo PD1305 (specs below).
Questions:
- Are the build quality on these kinds of phones comparable to the Nexus 6/Galaxy series?
- Are the screens comparable to the N6/Galaxy series?
- What about the cameras, radios & sound?
I'm just not sure but the specs on the phone I've mentioned are extremely impressive and what (in my opinion) the Nexus 6 SHOULD have included. Also the price is about $300 cheaper than the Nexus 6 (in Australia).
Specs:
Snapdragon 805
3 gig RAM
6 inch 1440x2560 QHD Display
32gb memory (expandable up to 128gig)
158mm x 81mm x 5.68mm in size
162 grams
An amazing 1.8 16mp rear camera with dual LED Flash
An impressive 8mp front facing camera with LED Flash
Stereo speakers
Fingerprint scanner
3,600 - 4,000mh battery
Price: (AUD equivalent) = $580 outright, unlocked.
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Hell, while we are at it why not include direct SAT communications and free HW upgrades for life?
There is a difference between dream and reality. One is the one we are living in now, the other is where I can dream up a fusion reactor battery and antigrav stability for drop protection. Just be damn grateful we are getting a Nexus at all this year considering how likely Silver was and how likely ARA might be taking Nexus over next year.

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Hell, while we are at it why not include direct SAT communications and free HW upgrades for life?
There is a difference between dream and reality. One is the one we are living in now, the other is where I can dream up a fusion reactor battery and antigrav stability for drop protection. Just be damn grateful we are getting a Nexus at all this year considering how likely Silver was and how likely ARA might be taking Nexus over next year.
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No need for sarcasm as the specs for the phone that I posted are pretty legitimate sounding, and some sources claim 100% real. Also looking at their previous model (nearly a year old) as well as the current (and upcoming) competition in China - the specs I posted for the above phone are not only possible, but will very likely exist before the Nexus 6 is but a few months old.
These Chinese manufacturers are progressing far faster than the Nexus series (or many other Android phones) have ever done. Under 6mm thick, 3500mh+ battery, Snapdragon 805+ processor, 3gb RAM+, QHD 6" screen etc is totally within reason on the latest Chinese manufacturer phones.

Get Nexus 6 64GB for 647USD or ...?

Hi to everyone in N6 community. I'd like to ask you for help with my dilemma:
I have Samsung Note 4 for now. I'm very dissapointed with Samsung's style of updates and "quality of software in general". I dont use S-Pen, have Note only for a big display and high-end hardware
I would like to sell my Note 4 for about 460 bucks. Now I'm decinding this variants:
- Sell Note 4 for 460 USD and get 64GB Nexus 6 for 645.
- Sell Note 4 for 460 USD and get HTC One M9 for 484 (opportunity of limited sale)
- Keep Note 4
Why? Like I said I hate Samsung's TW. But the hardware is almost the same as Nexus6 (QHD, SD805, 3200 mAh etc). On the other side: I had MS Lumia 1520 and i loved its display size and I love "playing with ROMs" and tweaks of Android. On the other side again, Note's camera is superior one. Is there any mod/app to increase quality of N6 photos (not resolution, 13 MP is fairy enough for me)?.
And finaly, 484 USD for new HTC M9 is very good too, especially for newer HW (SD810), excellent speakers and totally outstanding full-metal body (but I like Nexus 6 design very much also). Software theaking on HTC is very powerfull in my experiences with Desire HD, HTC M7 and M8. The biggest disadvantage is camera quality - the lower of these 3 phone.
Finally, Has Nexus 6 enough powerfull potencial in SW to get it even with one year old HW (same as Note4) or should i risk HTC M9 or even hang out with Note 4? The new Nexuses 5 (2015) or 6 (2015) i dont want. Its design is totally ugly IMHO.
Thanks for every opinion, have a great day

This phone is great. Specs are high and as for the camera, check out the pictures thread in general where you will find users input who use the camera more than others. Is the Amazon sale for the nexus 6 for 3XX.xx over already?
Edit : didn't answer your question lol. I would sell the note and pick up a n6 from Amazon for 399 and keep a little profit. Also you will have latest updates like marshmallow as soon as it drops. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=staff&tag=androidcentral00-20&m1k=vb_ac&th=1
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Thank you for the response. Unfortunatelly this is US model XT1103. But here in the Czech republic i need an EU/Global version (XT1102?). But thanks anyway. Question remain the same: Should i add some cash for N6, or take cheaper M9 or kept my Note4 for future +/- 1,5 year without worries of performence and stability?

Note 4 Appreciation

With the Note5 taking a stepback from the Note 4 WRT removing Memory Card, no IR Blaster, Removable battery etc etc... And now the Note7 having faulty batteries that are smaller than the S7 Edge battery, no IR Blaster etc... I thought I'd start a Note 4 Appreciation thread where we can post what we like about our beloved Note 4.
I honestly thought I was going to get a Note 7, but with the delays, its had me looking and wondering why I want to upgrade when the Note 4 can still hold its own so well.
The Removable Battery has allowed me to extend my Note4's usage life, as I replaced battery at a low cost with another OEM one, and I plan on getting another just in case the S8 Edge and Note 8 disappoint, or until I find a TRUE Note4 upgrade.
Interesting that since 2014 not one OEM incl. Samsung can truly replicate the sheer prowess of the Note 4
via Galaxy Note 4 +128GB MicroSDXC

POLO_i780 said:
The Removable Battery has allowed me to extend my Note4's usage life, as I replaced battery at a low cost with another OEM one, and I plan on getting another just in case the S8 Edge and Note 8 disappoint, or until I find a TRUE Note4 upgrade.
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This.
With a new battery, a new screen protector, a new case, and a factory reset after Marshmallow upgrade, this is like a new phone. I have zero problems, zero complaints, and zero reason to 'upgrade' to a phone that actually has less features. Sadly, I don't think the versatility of the Note 4 will be replicated any time soon, so I'm hoping to get another few years out of this one!
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My N910C is working just fine, it does whatever I want it to do. It runs all my apps and games without any problems. I have a excellent case for it. All I need to do is get a Gear VR unit to try out the VR platform and wait for my replacement spare battery to arrive.

While I don't have the "zero complaint" part, still its needless to say Note 4 was the last practical mobile phone Samsung had ever released. I don't want a f***ing jewellery, but a mobile phone, where Note 4 ends.

For me the Note 4 is the best phone I have ever used. I considered uprgading to S7 edge but I dont find it that much of an upgrade to buy one. The Note still has a great camera which produces high quality pictures, for me only S6 got a better camera. The performance is great all games and apps are running smooth even in native resolution with Game Tuner. The screen is gorgeous and its pretty bright in sunlight. The removable battery, IR blaster and SD card are great companions. This device still dont have any true rival, atleast for me. Probably Note 8 will make me upgrade from my Note 4. I found that the best Notes for me are those with even numbers 2,4, maybe 8? So yes, Note 4, best device ever.

Must say, also appreciate the fact that the Note 4 is one of the last phones that is still durable without a dam case or cover.
The last Note that doesn't require protection.
via Galaxy Note 4 +128GB MicroSDXC

I agree wholeheartedly, many people dont realize how useful it is to replace the batteries on the go, and the durability of the device is more than great I dont even use any cases since I bought it 2 years ago, alot of N7 owners had their back cover cracked in first week! I think samsung hit the ceiling with N4.
Note 8 should remove the back glass and give us removable battery if it wants to get back on track and give us a real reason to upgrade, I just bought GTX 1080 instead of N7 cause I know it well last me more than 2~3 years and it will be worth the upgrade from 580

DarkGuyver said:
My N910C is working just fine, it does whatever I want it to do. It runs all my apps and games without any problems. I have a excellent case for it. All I need to do is get a Gear VR unit to try out the VR platform and wait for my replacement spare battery to arrive.
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Now that I have a 910c, I can honestly say this phone could have come out in 2016 and competed against anything on the market...
It's THAT good.
So happy I decided to get this one vs upgrading to a newer phone and just paying the higher depreciation for nothing

tiguy99 said:
Now that I have a 910c, I can honestly say this phone could have come out in 2016 and competed against anything on the market...
It's THAT good.
So happy I decided to get this one vs upgrading to a newer phone and just paying the higher depreciation for nothing
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Yeah, the N910C can still hold it's own even against the modern flagships of today.

Get real guys, Samsung will never produce another Note with removable battery...you can bet on this.
I guess Samsung consider more important waterproof than removable batteries...and this definitely kills the removable batteries and external SD cards.
But, i got to say...this the best phone i've ever had...great quality construction, love the dark laterals with the silver edges, it's fast and has an amazing screen...
I don't intend trade for another Note, the problem it's to find a better phone, because speed it's not enough...

Well, I have had all the Notes (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) except for the Note 7...
Number 4 is definitely a beast among them. I owned the Note 3 chronologically, then I bought LG G4 (by mistake), then I had an annoying the Note 5. As soon as I sold the Note 5, I immediately bought the Note 4 and this, to my mind, was an upgrade over nubmer 5 rather than downgrade.
The Note 4 is the last galaxy device where engineers still beat marketing managers out.
The Note 5 and 7 is for those who are marketing-hypnotizable and realy don't have any motivation to change a device or dependent on figures (AnTuTu results, OS update figire, etc.)
Working as a charm, the Note 4 is a beast for practical people too.

ProzakVizaq said:
Well, I have had all the Notes (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) except for the Note 7...
Number 4 is definitely a beast among them. I owned the Note 3 chronologically, then I bought LG G4 (by mistake), then I had an annoying the Note 5. As soon as I sold the Note 5, I immediately bought the Note 4 and this, to my mind, was an upgrade over nubmer 5 rather than downgrade.
The Note 4 is the last galaxy device where engineers still beat marketing managers out.
The Note 5 and 7 is for those who are marketing-hypnotizable and realy don't have any motivation to change a device or dependent on figures (AnTuTu results, OS update figire, etc.)
Working as a charm, the Note 4 is a beast for practical people too.
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I bought a Note 4 N910F about 3 weeks ago as I was looking for an upgrade. I had my eye on it for a while as it still has everything I need in a phone in 2016. Once a stable, fully featured Note 7 ROM is ported , this device will be given new life

paddymcg1 said:
I bought a Note 4 N910F about 3 weeks ago as I was looking for an upgrade. I had my eye on it for a while as it still has everything I need in a phone in 2016. Once a stable, fully featured Note 7 ROM is ported , this device will be given new life
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This!!!!!
So happy I bought this phone recently as well
No doubt there are some promising new phones out but this one else puts a lot of them to shame
Samsung put everything they have into the Note 4 and it shows.
2 years later and it runs as if it just came out...no slow downs nothing

I recently bought a "as new" Note 4. My daily driver is a Lenovo Zuk Z1 running a stock CM12 out of the box.
Comparing both...difficult. The Zuk1 is fast, very fast and I have the feeling faster that the Note 4 running on a fresh MM.
Not even mentioning the huge battery in the Zuk.
I would be very tempted buying a Note 4 dual sim but I have learned that sim 2 slot on the Note 4 has limitations in 3g etc.
The Zuk Z1 dual sim has no limitations...I can swap the 3g function from one sim to the other, I can deactivate sim 1 or sim 2 separately something which is apparently no longer possible under MM.
Back to the Note 4, I love the design, the S Pen, the display...I agree that Samsung hit a home-run with this phone.
I bought a second Note 4 with a defective display...I will replace the display as this is still doable at home. Looked on youtube how to replace a display on a note 5 and here its no longer an easy task.
So the wife will soon have her Note 4, she still using a Note 2 currently...
The good thing is that the Note 4 has been sold in huge numbers so lots of spares to be found and cheap ones with cosmetic damage!

filthydani112 said:
I agree wholeheartedly, many people dont realize how useful it is to replace the batteries on the go, and the durability of the device is more than great I dont even use any cases since I bought it 2 years ago, alot of N7 owners had their back cover cracked in first week! I think samsung hit the ceiling with N4.
Note 8 should remove the back glass and give us removable battery if it wants to get back on track and give us a real reason to upgrade, I just bought GTX 1080 instead of N7 cause I know it well last me more than 2~3 years and it will be worth the upgrade from 580
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GTX 1080 FTW! I also upgraded from a 500-series card (570) and, wow, what a difference! I even upgraded my monitor to take full advantage of the 1080 GTX's power.
Back on topic, I love my Note 4 910C. Skipped both the Note 5 & 7. Only weakness is the camera, IMO, compared to more modern flagships.
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ruicc said:
Get real guys, Samsung will never produce another Note with removable battery...you can bet on this.
I guess Samsung consider more important waterproof than removable batteries...and this definitely kills the removable batteries and external SD cards.
But, i got to say...this the best phone i've ever had...great quality construction, love the dark laterals with the silver edges, it's fast and has an amazing screen...
I don't intend trade for another Note, the problem it's to find a better phone, because speed it's not enough...
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It is still possible to make a device with a removable battery water resistant as Samsung has proven that it is possible when they released the SGS5 and SGS5 Neo. It's just that allot of people don't want plastic phones as they think they are cheap and want phones with a glass and metal sandwich construction as they feel that is more "premium".
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Back on topic, I love my Note 4 910C. Skipped both the Note 5 & 7. Only weakness is the camera, IMO, compared to more modern flagships.
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I think the ISOCELL sensor on my N910C takes excellent shots and in some instances it takes better shots than the SGS6 and Note 5.

DarkGuyver said:
I think the ISOCELL sensor on my N910C takes excellent shots and in some instances it takes better shots than the SGS6 and Note 5.
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That is so true!

I was at least disappointed with vaunted LG G4 camera when it spoiled all my outdoor New Year night photos with lots of illumination in auto mode. Note 4 cam did it way better

ProzakVizaq said:
I was at least disappointed with vaunted LG G4 camera when it spoiled all my outdoor New Year night photos with lots of illumination in auto mode. Note 4 cam did it way better
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The problem with the camera on the LG G4 is that the laser auto focus was always wondering around looking for a focal point. It could never get a good lock on a single focal point.

This thread really made my day. I just bought a note 4 yesterday and i am already in love with it.