Hello, are there any Note 4 users here using "Good for Enterprise" app for work email? Could anyone please confirm the Xposed module keeps GFE from identifying the phone as a rooted device even if Knox is flagged? Thanks in advance!
lc084302 said:
Hello, are there any Note 4 users here using "Good for Enterprise" app for work email? Could anyone please confirm the Xposed module keeps GFE from identifying the phone as a rooted device even if Knox is flagged? Thanks in advance!
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You can use RootCloak.
I've rooted all my previous phones (LG G3, Nexus 5, Samsung Note 3, etc.) and never had an issue with using Good for Enterprise.
I got my Note 4 this morning and rooted it within minutes of opening the box. I installed the Good application and was up and running with no issue at all even though I have tons of Xposed Modules installed.
Also have root with GFE
mm1999 said:
I've rooted all my previous phones (LG G3, Nexus 5, Samsung Note 3, etc.) and never had an issue with using Good for Enterprise.
I got my Note 4 this morning and rooted it within minutes of opening the box. I installed the Good application and was up and running with no issue at all even though I have tons of Xposed Modules installed.
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I too have had multiple rooted phones with GFE and xPosed running without incident. Now I will say that while I am a Network Admin I am not our Exchange Admin. So perhaps this is a setting in Good at server level to check for Root.....which leads to the next question....what benefit can be had from root against GFE?
Firstly, I'd like to thank you for all the responses.
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You can use RootCloak.
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Root Cloak doesn't work with GFE. At least when I was on a HTC one with CM 11. GFE apparently checks something else than what Root Cloak hides.
Your company can elect to disable GFE on their employees' phones if they fail the root check. The later version seems to detect the Xposed framework also. Good for Enterprise, certainly, to their desires to appear secured. Banning root doesn't save anyone from downloading keyloggers or any other malicious apps.
lc084302 said:
Firstly, I'd like to thank you for all the responses.
Root Cloak doesn't work with GFE. At least when I was on a HTC one with CM 11. GFE apparently checks something else than what Root Cloak hides.
Your company can elect to disable GFE on their employees' phones if they fail the root check. The later version seems to detect the Xposed framework also. Good for Enterprise, certainly, to their desires to appear secured. Banning root doesn't save anyone from downloading keyloggers or any other malicious apps.
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That is correct. The only way to hide root is to use an older version (v2.7) and an Xposed module.
You can find all about it in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040163
I asked a similar question there.
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So I know snapchat recently updated it "terms and agreement". It seems that, ever since then, I can't login on ANY phone I have that has root. Even without xposed being installed. I tried it on a clean install and made sure xposedbridge.jar was NOT under system/framework. I can use it fine on my crApple stock with no jailbreak. But I can't sign into snapchat on my note 5 or my nexus 6. Both with root. Anyone else experiencing this? And fixes or work around that DON'T include unrooting the device? I mean, come on, snappreffs hasn't work for ages and there isn't even any snapchat mods that work at this point. Wtf man. Smh
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So I know snapchat recently updated it "terms and agreement". It seems that, ever since then, I can't login on ANY phone I have that has root. Even without xposed being installed. I tried it on a clean install and made sure xposedbridge.jar was NOT under system/framework. I can use it fine on my crApple stock with no jailbreak. But I can't sign into snapchat on my note 5 or my nexus 6. Both with root. Anyone else experiencing this? And fixes or work around that DON'T include unrooting the device? I mean, come on, snappreffs hasn't work for ages and there isn't even any snapchat mods that work at this point. Wtf man. Smh
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Once again install suhide 0.55 thats all
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I bought the T713 a month or so ago, installed Ashyx TWRP 3.0.2-1 and rooted. All is well. The last device I rooted was a Note 3 from almost 3 years ago (still have it...going strong). Back then, there was LBE Privacy Guard and Xprivacy. Development for both of these seems to have stopped a few years back.
So are these still viable for my SM-T713 or is there another program out there that works as well?
Thanks,
Sam
Have you installed the Xposed framework? I see Xpivacy in the download section, last updated 7/1/15. Not sure if that helps you tho
Edit: there is an alternative that is being currently developed and updated.
The one on top...
Thanks. Seems like development has dropped off. Is it just that self sustaining, or are people just not that concerned about privacy these days?
I haven't installed xposed. I see there's a FAQ and instructions in the OP of the xprivacy thread.
Unless the alternative you mention is more viable?
Thanks again. Any info appreciated.
(apologies for the delayed response...somehow notifications reset to no email notify).
Sam Sung said:
Thanks. Seems like development has dropped off. Is it just that self sustaining, or are people just not that concerned about privacy these days?
I haven't installed xposed. I see there's a FAQ and instructions in the OP of the xprivacy thread.
Unless the alternative you mention is more viable?
Thanks again. Any info appreciated.
(apologies for the delayed response...somehow notifications reset to no email notify).
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The one I mentioned would require Xposed. I haven't used it but it might be worth a try, since it does claim to fill the shoes? Xposed is pretty nifty too, if you haven't used it before. Im using it to allow all apps to work in multiwindow, among other things
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The one I mentioned would require Xposed. I haven't used it but it might be worth a try, since it does claim to fill the shoes? Xposed is pretty nifty too, if you haven't used it before. Im using it to allow all apps to work in multiwindow, among other things
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No, I haven't tried Xposed for anything, but I know it needs to be installed prior to using xPrivacy, so I guess I'll become familiar with it.
Thanks for your help.
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No, I haven't tried Xposed for anything, but I know it needs to be installed prior to using xPrivacy, so I guess I'll become familiar with it.
Thanks for your help.
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No problem, good luck and keep us posted
Can't you use the built in privacy mode?
Presuming no Xposed framework will ever be available for Android N or later, what hardware would you buy today? I will not run an Android version without Xposed (due to the need for XPrivacy). Therefore, I seek opinions on the best available, future-proofed hardware to run Xposed. For example, it seems I should still be able to buy a new OnePlus 3T, nuke the Nougat it presumably ships with, and "upgrade" down to Android 6 w/ Xposed. I doubt that path will be an option with later hardware releases.
What's the best, cutting edge Xposed-compatible hardware—presuming I might still be running it 5 years from now?
None.
Also hardware isnt the issue. Software is.
A one plus will stipl run great after 5 years.
But probably new security issues will arise and there won't be bug fixes to those things from anyone.
Maybe there will be other alternatives to exposed, but personally speaking, my current nexus 6 wipl be my last smartphone.
I will either not use one in the future or simply continue using this phone until it dies.
Appart from being utterly disgusted by the regression of technology (removable batteries gone, headphone jacks gone, lack of support),
I also cant stand the privacy issues.
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hardware isnt the issue. Software is.
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I disagree, unless you were making a reference to Wirth's law. My Nexus 5 crawls today in comparison to how it ran years ago, and I'm constantly short on RAM when I wasn't in the past. Most of this is the bloat caused by apps. It will help, of course, that the OS wouldn't be upgraded.
A one plus will stipl run great after 5 years.
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I also perform the hardware repair on my N5 myself, so that's a factor. Things like battery replacement come into play after years of use.
But probably new security issues will arise and there won't be bug fixes to those things from anyone.
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That's effectively where I'm at now. The OTAs won't apply, and I don't care enough to go through the gyrations to update the OS with the patches.
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I disagree, unless you were making a reference to Wirth's law. My Nexus 5 crawls today in comparison to how it ran years ago, and I'm constantly short on RAM when I wasn't in the past. Most of this is the bloat caused by apps. It will help, of course, that the OS wouldn't be upgraded.
I also perform the hardware repair on my N5 myself, so that's a factor. Things like battery replacement come into play after years of use.
That's effectively where I'm at now. The OTAs won't apply, and I don't care enough to go through the gyrations to update the OS with the patches.
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Agreed I have Nexus 5, Redmi Note 3, Redmi Note 4, Moto G5 Plus, Mi5 at home
Nexus 5 feels ancient now though I love the form factor and the occasional times when it runs smooth off late
Im guessing EMMC might be degrading
Then I should buy more Android Phones, at least one for shopping, one for apps at sixes and sevens. I am in China and most of the apps don't want to obey the rules...
Plus: less pleasure for personalizing
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Please keep on topic and refrain from xposed lifespan assumptions , the OP is asking for a different opinion
thread cleaned and be nice one with the other
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you pretty much already have my suggestion.... a OnePlus 3T. since you seem to need xposed (imho, just move on) all new phones will obviously be shipping with android 7.xx+, the 3T is the best phone to get. i doubt there will be an update to xposed so eventually you will need to update and its obvious that later android version will have superior memory management to make use of the 3T's memory.
if by chance, xposed does somehow live you will still be left with a great phone that is only further made better by whatever android version is available. a few weeks ago i helped several classmates switch ROM's. they all bought 3T's due to my recommendation. all are very happy. i suggest you get one while they are still available. i hope this helps! cheers!
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you pretty much already have my suggestion.... a OnePlus 3T.
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Thanks.
since you seem to need xposed (imho, just move on)
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Well, I *need* XPrivacy and not only is that dependent on Xposed but I subsequently found out that development likely won't support anything later than Marshmallow. So, that's where I'll be indefinitely until someone replicates that.
they all bought 3T's due to my recommendation. all are very happy. i suggest you get one while they are still available. i hope this helps! cheers!
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It does. Thanks. The largest concern is battery replacement, as it seems there are no genuine replacement batteries. Maybe that will change in a few years, though.
Well, I *need* XPrivacy.......
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well, if privacy is your concern their are many apps that can help. your familiari with AFWall+ so there's that. you could also use Island by Oasisfeng. i mostly use it to hide my friends titpics and my snapchat, kik accounts but the app will eventually be able to do so much more.
i dont know what type of privacy concerns you have but a firewall should be enough unless your either a spy or just paranoid.
The largest concern is battery replacement....
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you can find parts for this phone with an easy google search. i purchased a replacement screen for a friend that accidentally dropped her 3T from a balcony at school.
i truly suggest you move on to N. soon there O will be released and with it so many worthwhile features. if your lucky enough to get the chance to use it i suggest you do and not pass due to the lack of xposed. while i agree that xposed is great, its not worth passing over on updating to a better android release.
btw, now that there has been more info on the 1+5, i suggest you wait. give island a try and then i hope you go for the 1+5. cheers!
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well, if privacy is your concern their are many apps that can help. your familiari with AFWall+ so there's that.
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In addition to XPrivacy, I'm already using AFWall+, AppOps Xposed, and an always-on VPN.
you could also use Island by Oasisfeng. i mostly use it to hide my friends titpics and my snapchat, kik accounts but the app will eventually be able to do so much more.
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Cool, I'll check it out for consideration to be added it into the mix. Thanks.
i dont know what type of privacy concerns you have but a firewall should be enough unless your either a spy or just paranoid.
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A firewall is necessary but insufficient due to in-band privacy leaks. I require XPrivacy to intercept calls and feed apps fake data. There is really no substitute for Xposed for this type of approach; you may remember PDroid and how clunky that was.
you can find parts for this phone with an easy google search.
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Hm. I was unable to find a genuine OnePlus 3T battery. I found a few obviously counterfeit batteries from dodgy ebay vendors, but I would certainly appreciate it if you could point me to a source for a genuine new replacement battery for a 3T.
i truly suggest you move on to N. soon there O will be released and with it so many worthwhile features.
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Thanks for sharing your perspective, but I'd rather not have a smartphone than to go without XPrivacy or its equivalent. I certainly need XPrivacy a lot more than I need some new UX. I already disable all the "cool" creepy google **** like google now cards and I deny the google app access to my mic & location (well, location services is disabled altogether, but you get the point). My smartphone on MM does what I want it to do, and I really don't need it to do anything more—especially if it comes at the cost of losing the fine-grained control over apps one has via XPrivacy.
Hijacking the thread, since you posted some nice alternatives. What about us that can't live without Amplify and Greenify?
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Hijacking the thread, since you posted some nice alternatives. What about us that can't live without Amplify and Greenify?
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Greenify doesn't require Xposed to work, just for the "boost" features. It works just fine on my 6P running 7.1.2, which means I have no Xposed.
another thread hijack since someone mention xposed module alternatives
can someone create a thread specifically list down all the alternatives for xposed modules? I am switching to S8 which is nougat only so I need to find alternatives for my xposed modules
- app settings: no alt
- appopsxposed: no alt
- boot manager: no alt
- nekosms: samsung default messaging app block feature (although not as complete)
- rootcloak: magisk
- xtouchwiz: manually deal with csc xml
Garock said:
another thread hijack since someone mention xposed module alternatives
can someone create a thread specifically list down all the alternatives for xposed modules? I am switching to S8 which is nougat only so I need to find alternatives for my xposed modules
- app settings: no alt
- appopsxposed: no alt
- boot manager: no alt
- nekosms: samsung default messaging app block feature (although not as complete)
- rootcloak: magisk
- xtouchwiz: manually deal with csc xml
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Does Magisk directly replace Rootcloak? Doesn't Magiskhide only hide Magisk, not root?
ldeveraux said:
Does Magisk directly replace Rootcloak? Doesn't Magiskhide only hide Magisk, not root?
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Magisk hides its root.
josephcsible said:
Magisk hides its root.
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Right, not SuperSU though.
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Right, not SuperSU though.
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not sure but I thought magisk hide will also hide root from other apps
but you're correct, magisk hide needs magisksu and cannot work with supersu
Hey, I have not rooted a device since S5. Up till now I have not had a reaso too. So can someone please telm me the benefits of rooting the S10 5G on Android 10. I am on the fence right now.
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Hey, I have not rooted a device since S5. Up till now I have not had a reaso too. So can someone please telm me the benefits of rooting the S10 5G on Android 10. I am on the fence right now.
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Hey mate, over the years the main benefits of root have become less and less... Important per say compared to the older days, but in saying that root does have the same benefit of complete control over the device. Some apps detect root and won't allow you to use them, bank apps, Pokemon go, Snapchat, google pay, but generally magisk hide, hiding the manager itself and some basic code editing in terminal for Google pays case is all that's needed as long as you don't very heavily modify the device, example Snapchat can work with magisk hide but if you use a edited services.jar is known to get detected regardless of magisk hide.
In saying that, unless your an enthusiast like myself who just loves tinkering just for the sake of it, or you don't care about warranty (country dependant), if you don't see any need/reason for root, then your answer is already answered.
I do hope others comment there opinions down below as this is just my own point of view.
I'm receiving my Google Pixel 7 tomorrow. I'm coming from Pixel 6 and before coming from a Pixel 4. The last device I rooted was Oneplus 6T and was before the pixels I've got. So, my question is, does it worth root for this device? What would be the benefits nowadays? I've got the pixel 7 from Google unlocked. Thanks in advance
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I'm receiving my Google Pixel 7 tomorrow. I'm coming from Pixel 6 and before coming from a Pixel 4. The last device I rooted was Oneplus 6T and was before the pixels I've got. So, my question is, does it worth root for this device? What would be the benefits nowadays? I've got the pixel 7 from Google unlocked. Thanks in advance
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To answer your question, I would say it's worth it. You can get system wide AdBlock. Some apps require it like audio mods. You can also get LSPosed and ASOPMods which will give you a bunch of tweaks on the stock rom without having to use a custom ROM, among other things, but in the end it's up to you
Thanks, for the reply. My bad about the miss understanding. The Google pay always it's patched and possibly to use? My question resides since I use it a lot
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Thanks, for the reply. My bad about the miss understanding. The Google pay always it's patched and possibly to use? My question resides since I use it a lot
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Google Pay might be disabled when you root it though.
imrock666 said:
Thanks, for the reply. My bad about the miss understanding. The Google pay always it's patched and possibly to use? My question resides since I use it a lot
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Im rooted and I have no problem doing payments with the NFC
I think that the people that use XDA are likely to be in favor of rooting, after all they are mostly hackers anyway. I have to say I haven't rooted one of my phones in years, android has gotten so good that most of the features that rooting provided are available without rooting now.
That being said, I think you know the answer. If there is something you want on your phone that you can only get by rooting, then you should root. The Pixel series seems to be very well supported by the community.
Thank you guys for the reply. I've been far from the scene but i know what you say it's right. I'll take a look to the topics to see if I need something that worth root.
AdAway -that's why I root, and it's worth it. I hate ads and a system wide ad blocker is awesome. Also, the AOSP mods module (you can find it on XDA) helps customize a stock rooted device very well.
*But I don't use banking apps, so if you do - root may not be worth the hassle or the security risk.
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AdAway -that's why I root, and it's worth it. I hate ads and a system wide ad blocker is awesome. Also, the AOSP mods module (you can find it on XDA) helps customize a stock rooted device very well.
*But I don't use banking apps, so if you do - root may not be worth the hassle or the security risk.
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If ad blocking is your main reason to root, you should look into things that can be done via dns from your router to every device in your home no software required. That being said, unlocking the bootloader on my Samsung tablet and pixel experience gsi actually made me appreciate some of the pixels ui. Root doesn't really matter like it used to for me, but in principle I should be allowed admin privilege on a device I paid for.
Thanks, pal. I'm still thinking in rooting the pixel 7. I've just got it but in my opinion has everything you need out of the box. Times are changing now.
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Thanks, pal. I'm still thinking in rooting the pixel 7. I've just got it but in my opinion has everything you need out of the box. Times are changing now.
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The nice thing regarding rooting are the possible extra functions you may want to add then using modules and apps. I tested many custom ROMs for the Pixel 6 and 7, but always went back to the stock ROM. With many custom ROMs I had problems, bugs and glitches. Now rooted stock plus a custom kernel is my setup of choice.
As you may know, root can be a serious security risk if you don't know what you do or if you f* up badly getting hacked or something like that. And maybe some banking apps and stuff like that won't work with a rooted device, but there's workarounds for that maybe.
I use latest stable Magisk, AdAway to block ads and tracking via systemless hosts file, and App Ops with Sui by Rikka. With App Ops you have advanced permission settings for apps, which is good for privacy.
Using App Ops and AdAway in hosts mode would not be possible without root, and for the Kirisakura Kernel a Magisk module is needed too. Swift backup, which I use for complete backups needs root too for some features.
App Ops and Swift Backup are not FOSS sadly. I wish they were and there are people saying that they can not be trusted if they are not open source. On the other side they are very well implemented apps which just work. So I use them.
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If ad blocking is your main reason to root, you should look into things that can be done via dns from your router to every device in your home no software required. That being said, unlocking the bootloader on my Samsung tablet and pixel experience gsi actually made me appreciate some of the pixels ui. Root doesn't really matter like it used to for me, but in principle I should be allowed admin privilege on a device I paid for.
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Ad blocking isn't my main reason, but thanks for the advice. I've been using AdAway for over a decade and it's a simple solution on the device side of things, and I like to keep things simple. I will look into your solution for my home Wifi network though.
But rooting allows you to add or delete features, so combined with AdAway, a custom kernel, and a few modifications on my stock pixel 7 rom - I have a device that performs better, does what I want when I want, and without obnoxious ads - regardless of the network I'm on
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Ad blocking isn't my main reason, but thanks for the advice. I've been using AdAway for over a decade and it's a simple solution on the device side of things, and I like to keep things simple. I will look into your solution for my home Wifi network though.
But rooting allows you to add or delete features, so combined with AdAway, a custom kernel, and a few modifications on my stock pixel 7 rom - I have a device that performs better, does what I want when I want, and without obnoxious ads - regardless of the network I'm on
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We are on the same page about root privilege. I just figured I'd mention there are other options available if anybody reading this actually is only rooting for ad control.
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We are on the same page about root privilege. I just figured I'd mention there are other options available if anybody reading this actually is only rooting for ad control.
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Sure, one can always stay unrooted and use the non-root mode of AdAway, use adguard DNS ( dns.adguard.com ) or personalDNSfilter e.g. ... During the last years I sometimes used adguard, atm using AdAway with root on my Pixel 7 but on my unrooted Nokia 8010 TV box I use personalDNSfilter (our GUI does not support Android TV very well, but it runs).
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Sure, one can always stay unrooted and use the non-root mode of AdAway, use adguard DNS ( dns.adguard.com ) or personalDNSfilter e.g. ... During the last years I sometimes used adguard, atm using AdAway with root on my Pixel 7 but on my unrooted Nokia 8010 TV box I use personalDNSfilter (our GUI does not support Android TV very well, but it runs).
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I definitely recommend to anybody rooted or not to look into setting up pi hole for network wide host list enforcement. I also recommend a 30 day trial on controld.com . Very versatile and I have been subscribed @4 dollars a month happily. Not trying to shill but I love what can be done with it. And it carries over to your cellular network when you aren't on wifi. Also there's nextdns and Adguard home which are great as well. Controld allows you to change you ip locale like a VPN, without being on VPN. If you do a trial you'll probably want to keep it. Word of warning
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We are on the same page about root privilege. I just figured I'd mention there are other options available if anybody reading this actually is only rooting for ad control.
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Much appreciated. And I guess that's the purpose of forums like this - public discourse and sharing of information.
Take care, homie
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Sure, one can always stay unrooted and use the non-root mode of AdAway, use adguard DNS ( dns.adguard.com ) or personalDNSfilter e.g. ... During the last years I sometimes used adguard, atm using AdAway with root on my Pixel 7 but on my unrooted Nokia 8010 TV box I use personalDNSfilter (our GUI does not support Android TV very well, but it runs).
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