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If I remember right, I remember reading a leak somewhere that the next Nexus will be available on CDMA networks. I'll try my best to find the source if anybody wants it. But it'll take a while because I'm on my phone currently. If you do think it'll be available for Verizon and sprint, how would that work. As far as I know, Verizon's SIM cards aren't similar to GSM cards at all. So you'd need an actual SIM card from the Verizon store. Would that mean that Verizon would want complete control over the the phone like the Galaxy Nexus? How do you see this playing out?
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Nobody knows. Might as well as for tomorrow lottery winning number.
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The LG d120 that went through the FCC and is widely expected to be the next Nexus was both gsm and cdma compatible, as well as having LTE support for AT&T's, T-Mobile's, and Sprint's bands, but unfortunately not for Verizon's. This not good news for Verizon customers, since I doubt they'll allow it on their network without LTE support. I did read some speculation that there might be a separate model just for Verizon, but I kinda doubt it. It's more likely that Verizon are being their usual dickish control freak selves and don't want to play Google's open, unlocked game.
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I thought Google wasn't supporting cdma devices anymore. Didn't they drop support for the sprint galaxy nexus because of that? I pretty much thought they wanted to keep it simple and have just one device, since the rest of the world is gsm. Maybe I'm wrong.
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http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/9/2...-potential-sprint-merger-the-logical-ultimate
Interesting idea. I personally favor more competition, not less. But a merger like this with the direction both T-Mobile and sprint has been going, this could really benefit us in the long run
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I wonder if instead of a merger it would be an acquisition on Softbanks part. They definitely have the cash to do it and that would make logical sense.
No! We need more players, not fewer! Sprint will have enough capital to become competitive in the next three years.
Please, the odds of the SEC ever allowing any of the big four to merge are practically 0.
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I'm game as long they switch to gsm
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I wonder if instead of a merger it would be an acquisition on Softbanks part. They definitely have the cash to do it and that would make logical sense.
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I read an article starting that soft bank had to borrow a lot of the money just to make the acquisition.
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No! We need more players, not fewer! Sprint will have enough capital to become competitive in the next three years.
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Where did you get that information? Because if that is true, it would make a lot of sense for T-Mobile to hitch it's wagon to Sprint. If the FTC would even allow it.
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Sprint has enough issues of their own at this point, and they have the failed Nextel merger still in many of the executives memories. It may happen, but I don't think it'll have any legitimate consideration till 5-7 years from now, likely when 5G networks come around and LTE Advance has matured.
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When the T-mobile/AT&T deal fell through, the wording from the FCC was something to the effect of that if they allowed any less than 4 major, nationwide carriers, they would be crossing a threshold into a duopoly/oligopoly type of deal, and that having 4 carriers was a threshold they were not willing to cross.
Therefore, I don't think that this will happen, both because of the effort that would be needed to make the networks compatible (completely dismantling one network, save maybe LTE assets and refarming spectrum for one or the other basically) as well as the legal and regulatory issues.
Also, more competition is almost always best.
Rumors are rumors, people honestly exaggerate things that turn out to be nothing.
Remember when Dish was going to buy Sprint? Exactly.
A few random thoughts from someone who has worked for carriers for 20 years and seen all the mergers first hand on the AT&T side and is now with Sprint...
1) FCC/Justice would probably only consider further consolidation of the wireless sector on a big scale if it was a Sprint/TMO merger.
2) With Softbank behind Sprint such a deal would be possible. I recall last week a news article about Japanese government investing a few $billion more in Softbank (sorry no link but read it somewhere). Could this be why, perhaps.
3) TMO needs to do a deal more than Sprint needs to do a deal. Reason being is spectrum. As the demand for more bandwidth increases the ability to manage that demand will come down to who has the most spectrum to cram packets of data through. Of all the US carriers who is best positioned with the most spectrum of any carrier, Sprint. Who among the four is in the weakest position, TMO.
4) The uncarrier looks attractive to consumers at the moment because of the offers on phones, data plans, etc. The problem is that the long term health of the company doesn't look good because they don't have the spectrum resources to manage the data needs as we get to 2015 and beyond. This means slower speeds, more blocking, etc.
5) Sprint would likely be doing simply what AT&T tried to do when they made a play to buy TMO a couple years ago. Buy a customer base. Simply put buy the customers so you're bigger and closer to the top two. However I really don't think they need to do this.
6) Someone mentioned GSM. Sprint won't change their network to GSM, if a merger were to happen they'd most likely be required to continue operating TMOs GSM network until 2016ish but by that time all the major players will be using VoLTE so there would be no need for the traditional GSM or CDMA networks as they exist today.
Lastly my opinion is that while Sprint could do this deal I really don't think they should. I think a much more likely scenario would be to buy smaller carriers like US Cellular among others because TMO has too much bureaucracy and would require massive job cuts to make TMO fit into the Sprint model and that would be bad press that Sprint wouldn't want to go through nor get distracted by.
In the end buy smaller players that fit easily into your model, stay the course on building a better and bigger network, and then leverage the massive spectrum holdings you have into a customer friendly model that gives you a network equal in size to the top two but better because you have more spectrum to operate with giving you the ability to move data faster than your competitors. Consolidation will have to happen eventually and while consumer advocates are generally against it there is no way around it without completely reworking wireless spectrum and the FCC can't/won't do that so as the thirst for data increases the need for spectrum will as well and small players just won't be able to survive so we'll likely end up with two or three carriers eventually...
Verizon and AT&T need TMO to survive so that there are four players in the market and both of them can continue to buy up small fish to correct their spectrum deficiencies. If TMO gets bought or dies out (a more likely scenario) then VZN/ATT will be stuck, they have no path to grow, they have no merger path, they have huge bureaucracies choking them making overhead high and they start bleeding customers....
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If that happened, our phone can use T-mobile sim and work, nice.
I hope this does happen. Tmo's LTE Band 4 is pretty fast. I hit 30-50MBps here in Socal on my Nexus 4. I can barely get 15mbs on Sprint with my One. So i guess Band 4 is definitely better here in Socal
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I hope this does happen. Tmo's LTE Band 4 is pretty fast. I hit 30-50MBps here in Socal on my Nexus 4. I can barely get 15mbs on Sprint with my One. So i guess Band 4 is definitely better here in Socal
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Where are you in Socal? I'm in north OC and any time I connect to LTE I'm still pulling in kilobytes at a time or straight up getting connection errors.
I'm starting to think it's my ROM, but I'm praying it's not.
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Where are you in Socal? I'm in north OC and any time I connect to LTE I'm still pulling in kilobytes at a time or straight up getting connection errors.
I'm starting to think it's my ROM, but I'm praying it's not.
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I had good lte a few weeks ago in La Verne but now the tower is all wack. No 3g or lte at all anymore, worthless
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1) FCC/Justice would probably only consider further consolidation of the wireless sector on a big scale if it was a Sprint/TMO merger.
2) With Softbank behind Sprint such a deal would be possible. I recall last week a news article about Japanese government investing a few $billion more in Softbank (sorry no link but read it somewhere). Could this be why, perhaps.
Lastly my opinion is that while Sprint could do this deal I really don't think they should. I think a much more likely scenario would be to buy smaller carriers like US Cellular among others because TMO has too much bureaucracy and would require massive job cuts to make TMO fit into the Sprint model and that would be bad press that Sprint wouldn't want to go through nor get distracted by.
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Sprint has purchased US Cellular.
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Sprint has purchased US Cellular.
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Actually they haven't...
They have purchased some US Cellular assets in some parts of country but not the whole company.
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I know MetroPCS piggyback off of tmo, but does anyone have any concrete info whether the nexus 6 will just work as intended on metroPCS, utilizing the same frequency/radio band as tmo? TIA!
It'll work fine
But does it utilize all the major bands that tmo are using, or will tmo segment off a few to prevent saturation on their own users?
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But does it utilize all the major bands that tmo are using, or will tmo segment off a few to prevent saturation on their own users?
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T-Mobile and MetroPCS use the same bands and towers. The Nexus 6 will work perfectly on both.
However, when it comes to network saturation, T-Mobile Post-paid customers get priorizitation over MetroPCS, pre-paid, and MVNO subscribers. But that has nothing to do with the phone. The phone itself will work the same exact way on Metro as it would on T-Mo.
I'm curious if anyone has ever actually activated one and seen it work first hand because Metro says the Motorola XT1103 is NOT compatible. Sorry for necro'ing a thread but I'm dying to leave sprint and they're the only decent unlim carrier around me without paying $100+/mo to get near unlim.
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I'm curious if anyone has ever actually activated one and seen it work first hand because Metro says the Motorola XT1103 is NOT compatible. Sorry for necro'ing a thread but I'm dying to leave sprint and they're the only decent unlim carrier around me without paying $100+/mo to get near unlim.
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metropcs is owned by tmobile, and uses tmobiles towers. my n6 i bought from tmobile. a few friends are on metro, one with a n6. hes using fine on metro. his only problem is that you dont get tmobiles full lte speeds on metro, they are slowed down. for example, wjen standing near each other, i get 50mbps download, while he gets 7mbps download speed. on the same towers! lol.
as others have said, it'll work. Screenshot attached shows speeds on LTE in the lower/mid-Hudson Valley, NY.
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I'm curious if anyone has ever actually activated one and seen it work first hand because Metro says the Motorola XT1103 is NOT compatible. Sorry for necro'ing a thread but I'm dying to leave sprint and they're the only decent unlim carrier around me without paying $100+/mo to get near unlim.
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I have and it works 100%. I have a line on metro that I had my nexus 6 on which is now on my tmobile line for business and one plus 2 on metro but it works fully even HQ call feature. Every aspect works as if it was on tmobile so dont sweat it.
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metropcs is owned by tmobile, and uses tmobiles towers. my n6 i bought from tmobile. a few friends are on metro, one with a n6. hes using fine on metro. his only problem is that you dont get tmobiles full lte speeds on metro, they are slowed down. for example, wjen standing near each other, i get 50mbps download, while he gets 7mbps download speed. on the same towers! lol.
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Yeah, I'm not worried about the speeds... I'll usually pull 30-75 down and put up 15-30 on my crappy free 4g lte phone I used with Metro when I had to send my N 6 in for repair... That's not the issue. On their site, they tell me my Nexus 6 is not compatible on their network. I know mine is sprint but, I have all the radios and bands for GSM and CDMA just like the rest of the Nexus 6's. That was why I asked.
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Yeah, I'm not worried about the speeds... I'll usually pull 30-75 down and put up 15-30 on my crappy free 4g lte phone I used with Metro when I had to send my N 6 in for repair... That's not the issue. On their site, they tell me my Nexus 6 is not compatible on their network. I know mine is sprint but, I have all the radios and bands for GSM and CDMA just like the rest of the Nexus 6's. That was why I asked.
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its all the same nexus 6, no differences, no matter where you buy it. only difference is between the us version and international version, then its only different lte bands.
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its all the same nexus 6, no differences, no matter where you buy it. only difference is between the us version and international version, then its only different lte bands.
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I get that's what it's supposed to be. But why would metro piece of **** tell me I can't then? It's not they they got the dumb and said, "you can't because your phone is CDMA." I didn't speak to a person. It's their company saying no phone not compatible. Idk if I have US or int'l tho. I have tdd and fdd LTE capabilities, which from what I understand, most other countries use tdd because 1/2 the bandwidth, double the porn. ?
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I get that's what it's supposed to be. But why would metro piece of **** tell me I can't then? It's not they they got the dumb and said, "you can't because your phone is CDMA." I didn't speak to a person. It's their company saying no phone not compatible. Idk if I have US or int'l tho. I have tdd and fdd LTE capabilities, which from what I understand, most other countries use tdd because 1/2 the bandwidth, double the porn. ?
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i have no idea why their system is messed up. that happens, with every single company.
That explains things they refuse to admit. Sigh. Thank you.
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Yeah the MetroPCS compatible search is old and outdated trust me the N6(XT1103) works on MetroPCS
Here is another user with n6 and metropcs. Just got the microsim from their website and activated it with my imei number and done.
I'm on a Nexus 6 with MetroPCS and have no issues. With metro you need to call them to add the imei number of the device to their data base.
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When I had MetroPCS- WiFi calling (which I needed because Metro/Tmo don't have signal at my house) only worked for calling and SMS. MMS sending and receiving didn't work. But LTE and everything else worked fine.
Can anyone chime in and say if WiFi calling works with MMS now? I might want to switch back, especially now if they still have the 2 lines for $60 with 6gb of data promotion.
Someone posted asking if it would work on AT&T so I looked around to see if it would work on Verizon and saw that Verizon has one LTE band that's different (VZW uses band 13, TMO uses 12). Would that weaken my signal strength enough that I shouldn't do it? I primarily am asking because I'm assuming the TMO S6 would have an unlocked bootloader and all I really want is to be able to root.
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Someone posted asking if it would work on AT&T so I looked around to see if it would work on Verizon and saw that Verizon has one LTE band that's different (VZW uses band 13, TMO uses 12). Would that weaken my signal strength enough that I shouldn't do it? I primarily am asking because I'm assuming the TMO S6 would have an unlocked bootloader and all I really want is to be able to root.
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Verizon will NEVER activate a phone that they did not sell. Verizon, assholes that they are, won't even activate a Nexus 6 you purchased from the Play Store, even though it's 100% compatible. So the answer is, and always will be, NO.
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Verizon will NEVER activate a phone that they did not sell. Verizon, assholes that they are, won't even activate a Nexus 6 you purchased from the Play Store, even though it's 100% compatible. So the answer is, and always will be, NO.
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Well...that's not true from what I've heard. I read the issue is that most Verizon reps just don't know how, not that they won't.
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Well...that's not true from what I've heard. I read the issue is that most Verizon reps just don't know how, not that they won't.
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Look, I can say this with the utmost confidence, and all the willingness to put money behind my statement. Verizon will NOT activate a non-verizon phone.
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Look, I can say this with the utmost confidence, and all the willingness to put money behind my statement. Verizon will NOT activate a non-verizon phone.
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I worked for Verizon for 3 years. It depends on a lot on the rep you get and your attitude. For a while there were a lot of issues with the system not allowing certain IEMI numbers to activate on the network. Why? Cause Verizon didn't sell these devices to anyone. But this has since changed mainly due to Page Plus and the other prepay options. Your best choice is to have a device with a sim card already and simply test it yourself in your other device. You've been able to use the Nexus 6 this way for a while on Verizon. The system Verizon uses is a bit extreme for activation because they'd rather suck your pocket book dry before allowing an unbranded device onboard.
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Look, I can say this with the utmost confidence, and all the willingness to put money behind my statement. Verizon will NOT activate a non-verizon phone.
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It doesn't matter if Verizon will activate a phone or not. If you have an activated SIM and then phone has Verizon's bands, it'll work. It just shows non-VZN device on MyVerizon. I've used a T-Mobile iPhone and Google Play Nexus 6 on Verizon.
Sadly, the T-Mobile S6 doesn't support Band 13 (Verizon's primary LTE band).
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Someone posted asking if it would work on AT&T so I looked around to see if it would work on Verizon and saw that Verizon has one LTE band that's different (VZW uses band 13, TMO uses 12). Would that weaken my signal strength enough that I shouldn't do it? I primarily am asking because I'm assuming the TMO S6 would have an unlocked bootloader and all I really want is to be able to root.
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Samsung appears to be using different modems for different variants. The GSM models run one modem and the CDMA models run a Qualcomm.
Even if it was able to be activated on VZW I doubt it would run very well
As far as I'm aware, Verizon is still using CDMA for voice and SMS.
Does the T-Mobile S6 support CDMA bands that Verizon uses? 4G (data only, at the moment) uses GSM..
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Look, I can say this with the utmost confidence, and all the willingness to put money behind my statement. Verizon will NOT activate a non-verizon phone.
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Yes...it will activate on Verizon (Google Play Nexus 6)...however not in a store...you need to have an already active Verizon sim card. I've done it myself.
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Yes...it will activate on Verizon (Google Play Nexus 6)...however not in a store...you need to have an already active Verizon sim card. I've done it myself.
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Right, but that's the Nexus, which has the radios available. We're talking about the S6, which won't have the CDMA radios required to actually WORK on verizon outside of LTE coverage.
Notice I only brought up the Nexus because of Verizon not activating it themselves AND it being 100% compatible, not that it couldn't. The S6 isn't 100% compatible by any means, and is a completely different animal.
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Right, but that's the Nexus, which has the radios available. We're talking about the S6, which won't have the CDMA radios required to actually WORK on verizon outside of LTE coverage.
Notice I only brought up the Nexus because of Verizon not activating it themselves AND it being 100% compatible, not that it couldn't. The S6 isn't 100% compatible by any means, and is a completely different animal.
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True...some folks would take it as a literal NO though and think it not possible at all. I wish Samsung would make all their newer phones with unlocked cdma and gsm radios...and of course unlocked bootloaders. I guess pick your poison. Lol
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True...some folks would take it as a literal NO though and think it not possible at all. I wish Samsung would make all their newer phones with unlocked cdma and gsm radios...and of course unlocked bootloaders. I guess pick your poison. Lol
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Well, it was a literal no. Verizon will not activate it for you. Literal no. It will not work properly. Literal no. It's just a bad idea in general, but so is giving Verizon your money. Just saying...
You could get it working yourself, but only barely, and with multiple issues. So why would you?
Anybody have a list of bands yet? Wondering if all or most of verizon bands are on device! Any info will be appreciated!
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Anybody have a list of bands yet? Wondering if all or most of verizon bands are on device! Any info will be appreciated!
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I'm based in UK so I don't know so much about American networks. However I didn't think Verizon used SIM cards? My understanding is that this phone only works via aim cards?
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I'm based in UK so I don't know so much about American networks. However I didn't think Verizon used SIM cards? My understanding is that this phone only works via aim cards?
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Yes we have sim cards lol never heard of anybody not using sim cards here in states yet
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Yes we have sim cards lol never heard of anybody not using sim cards here in states yet
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My apologies, this was my misunderstanding around CDMA tailored devices.
I had conflated CDMA with a version of using eSIM or something of that nature.
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My apologies, this was my misunderstanding around CDMA tailored devices.
I had conflated CDMA with a version of using eSIM or something of that nature.
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they are trying to go esim, i think everybody here in the states is
To answer your question, data will work on verizon in some areas, but voice won't. Same with all Huawei flagships of late.
Your only hope would be rooting and perhaps enabling VoLTE on verizon, in which case there's a small chance you could get it working.
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Yes we have sim cards lol never heard of anybody not using sim cards here in states yet
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Verizon uses the SIM card only for 4g data, LTE, but for voice it still uses CDMA. I really don't understand why Verizon and Sprint continue using this system, they seem to be the only one in the world with China and maybe some other areas, but most of the countries rely fully on GSM for both data and voice. This is the reason why the p20 pro will only work for data on Verizon but not for voice unless, and just maybe, you use a Chinese version I think the L00 model that uses CDMA too.
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Verizon uses the SIM card only for 4g data, LTE, but for voice it still uses CDMA. I really don't understand why Verizon and Sprint continue using this system, they seem to be the only one in the world with China and maybe some other areas, but most of the countries rely fully on GSM for both data and voice. This is the reason why the p20 pro will only work for data on Verizon but not for voice unless, and just maybe, you use a Chinese version I think the L00 model that uses CDMA too.
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Very interesting because the U11 doesn't have cdma either but voice works on it over LTE. If we could get that on the P20 we would be in business
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Very interesting because the U11 doesn't have CDMA either but voice works on it over LTE. If we could get that on the P20 we would be in business
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You are right. It seems like now Verizon is trying to use only services through LTE like VOLTE and is trying to turn off its old cdma network.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/06/htc-u11-can-used-verizon-even-without-cdma-support.html
Even though it seems like for this the cellphones need to go through Verizon approval and they are not 100% functional like it would be with ATT and Tmobile, which network is 100% GSM/LTE. You can see on the link below that the phone was only approved to use one band on Verizon which could cause really poor service.
https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/942418
Knowing this and all the issue between Huawei and EEUU government I seriously doubt this approval would happen, but who knows.
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You are right. It seems like now Verizon is trying to use only services through LTE like VOLTE and is trying to turn off its old cdma network.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/06/htc-u11-can-used-verizon-even-without-cdma-support.html
Even though it seems like for this the cellphones need to go through Verizon approval and they are not 100% functional like it would be with ATT and Tmobile, which network is 100% GSM/LTE. You can see on the link below that the phone was only approved to use one band on Verizon which could cause really poor service.
https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/942418
Knowing this and all the issue between Huawei and EEUU government I seriously doubt this approval would happen, but who knows.
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On the U11 it had 2 of the 3 verizon LTE bands I think it was missing 13 maybe? If i could get 2 out of the 3 bands to work on the P20 Pro I would probably try it
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On the U11 it had 2 of the 3 verizon LTE bands I think it was missing 13 maybe? If i could get 2 out of the 3 bands to work on the P20 Pro I would probably try it
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I think you missed the point in the last link I posted. There it is mentioned that the cell phone has most of Verizon bands if not all but only 13 was authorized to be used and this was what causes many of the issues with the U11 on Verizon network.
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I think you missed the point in the last link I posted. There it is mentioned that the cell phone has most of Verizon bands if not all but only 13 was authorized to be used and this was what causes many of the issues with the U11 on Verizon network.
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My pixel says NONVZW on my verizon website and works fine maybe I will get p20 pro or mi mix 2s and try it and see
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My pixel says NONVZW on my Verizon website and works fine maybe I will get p20 pro or mi mix 2s and try it and see
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Your Pixel says NONVZW because it was not bought directly on Verizon but it is a cell phone that is configured to work on both GSM and CDMA including full compatibility with Verizon so it shouldn't be considered as the same than P20 pro but if you still want to do it go ahead and good luck.
Anytime the same discussion. Thia phone is not official supported by Verizon. It will work on GSM Based Networks. But not on CDMA.
guy your wrong
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Yes we have sim cards lol never heard of anybody not using sim cards here in states yet
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who ever said the US did not have sims is right.
at one point in time the cdma guys did not have a sim card and in some phones still to this day out there they may or may not have a sim. if the person buying the phone gets bull **** from the sales person and buys a locked phone good changes are they may or may not have a sim.
now update to this day.
most if not all companys here have a sim now. they were forced by company's over seas and other gsm company's here being cheaper and no locking you down to a pay over 2 year plan that you more or less are selling a kid to the company to pay the bill.
but I love the fact that we get sims now. If they tryed to pull that bull **** with me now lol.
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who ever said the US did not have sims is right.
at one point in time the cdma guys did not have a sim card and in some phones still to this day out there they may or may not have a sim. if the person buying the phone gets bull **** from the sales person and buys a locked phone good changes are they may or may not have a sim.
now update to this day.
most if not all companys here have a sim now. they were forced by company's over seas and other gsm company's here being cheaper and no locking you down to a pay over 2 year plan that you more or less are selling a kid to the company to pay the bill.
but I love the fact that we get sims now. If they tryed to pull that bull **** with me now lol.
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Ummm I have had a sim card for 10 years now in a smartphone but we don't have them oh ok sure buddy i mean 50 years ago we didnt have sim cards or internet lol
What was the outcome of this discussion? OP, did you ever get to work?
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who ever said the US did not have sims is right.
at one point in time the cdma guys did not have a sim card and in some phones still to this day out there they may or may not have a sim. if the person buying the phone gets bull **** from the sales person and buys a locked phone good changes are they may or may not have a sim.
now update to this day.
most if not all companys here have a sim now. they were forced by company's over seas and other gsm company's here being cheaper and no locking you down to a pay over 2 year plan that you more or less are selling a kid to the company to pay the bill.
but I love the fact that we get sims now. If they tryed to pull that bull **** with me now lol.
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It's got nothing to do with that. CDMA does not require a sim, never has. LTE is what the sim is for because LTE is actually a GSM technology.
I dont know alot about the U11 but from what I could see from a quick search it actually does have all the Verizon LTE bands including 13. 13 is the most important one because its verizon main LTE band.
Guess which band the P20 pro doesn't have...13. It probably will not work and even if you could somehow manage to get it to. it probably wouldn't be a very good expensive, but if you want to spend 700 bucks to try to prove us all wrong more power to you.
oneandroidnut said:
Ummm I have had a sim card for 10 years now in a smartphone but we don't have them oh ok sure buddy i mean 50 years ago we didnt have sim cards or internet lol
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unless you didnt get a mobile phone until like 6-7 years ago...you would know that prior to that Verizon was primarily only CDMA and DID NOT USE SIM CARDS.
you are simply showing your age or lack of experience with mobile phones when you assume Verizon has always had sim cards...which is simply not true.
CraigP17 said:
unless you didnt get a mobile phone until like 6-7 years ago...you would know that prior to that Verizon was primarily only CDMA and DID NOT USE SIM CARDS.
you are simply showing your age or lack of experience with mobile phones when you assume Verizon has always had sim cards...which is simply not true.
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how long ago did they not have sim cards??? 10-15 years maybe?? Everything phone from 2008??? and on has had a sim card