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Nexus or Note?

Hello,
Running ICS (assuming with update)
Anyone use either or both? I was leaning towards the Nexus vs Amaze and now its either the note or nexus.
Ti omap vs exynos
The note has a slightly edge on screen rez?
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I chose the Note because it has better hardware than than the Nexus. Just look at the CPU, GPU, and screen. For me the Note is a perfect phone because I use it mainly for web browsing, gaming, and watching live video. The advantage the Nexus has is ICS, which we will eventually get.

HTC Chris said:
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I chose the Note because it has better hardware than than the Nexus. Just look at the CPU, GPU, and screen. For me the Note is a perfect phone because I use it mainly for web browsing, gaming, and watching live video. The advantage the Nexus has is ICS, which we will eventually get.
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Damn. I guess its not coming to tmobile /sigh
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xandermpls said:
Hello,
Running ICS (assuming with update)
Anyone use either or both? I was leaning towards the Nexus vs Amaze and now its either the note or nexus.
Ti omap vs exynos
The note has a slightly edge on screen rez?
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note has a notable edge on screen res. on top of having extra 80 lines (1280x800 vs 1280x720), the nexus also loses lines of resolution due to its on screen buttons, which reduces the resolution of the nexus to something like 1196x720.
note also has more processing power. i had a motorola atrix and upgraded to a galaxy note. despite the note having to run at a much higher resolution, it was still producing a much higher framerate compared to the atrix. the omap isnt that quick compared to the exynos chipset.
but im just going on technicalities here. i havent tried the nexus yet, but if the nexus was available 2 weeks earlier, i probably would have a nexus instead of a note. in the end, both are awesome phones, and both will get ICS (although the note might not see it till january). its just a matter of whether or not you can wait.

I think Note is the best one ,
Best resolution
Best Screen Size (not comfortable for all)
Best CPU
Best GPU

My choice is the Note, as mentioned above the PowerVR graphics in the Galaxy Nexus is quite a bit slower than the Mali-400 in the Note/S2 despite the higher resolution. Also the Note gets a bigger battery while the Galaxy Nexus is much the same as the S2.
A big deal breaker on the Galaxy Nexus for me is the lack of micro SD expansion, with such a fantastic screen for video and prices relatively low for 32GB cards the microSD slot is pretty handy.
John

Note +
Hardware
Screen Size & Resolution
Expandable Memory
Nexus +
ICS
Overall Size
Design
The lack of sd card in the Nexus and weaker hardware meant I went for the Note and I don't regret it. ICS on the Note should be awesome because there is definitely room for improvement in the software department for the Note, it isn't as smooth as my S2 was when scrolling though menus.

imho: Nexus = Absolutely NOGO !
Agree Johnmcl7:
A big deal breaker on the Galaxy Nexus for me is the lack of micro SD expansion, with such a fantastic screen for video and prices relatively low for 32GB cards the microSD slot is pretty handy.
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In my case, I use a huge amount( up to 30 GB and more )of offline RasterMaps for Navigation in regions not covered by Navtech/Teleatlas Vmaps , for this reason expandable storage is essential .
Ostentible SGN supports 64GB SDHC ...
If the Nexus would have a SDSlot , I would have spoilt for choice
When updated to ISC the SGN will have only advantages !

I thought I had misread it when I saw the Galaxy Nexus was lacking a micro SD slot but unfortunately it's true.
How do the cameras compare? I know the Galaxy Nexus is 3MP down but that on its own doesn't mean anything.
John

Have you read the Note and Nexus reviews over at Engadget? If no, it's a good idea.
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I find myself completely uninterested in the nexus. Ics is nice but I can wait for it.

ChodTheWacko said:
I find myself completely uninterested in the nexus. Ics is nice but I can wait for it.
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same here..
and thats why i bought a galaxy note

Dont go into Note section to ask for question like this, because most of the answers will be pretty obvious. And you dont mind if I add 1 more. Note has the best specs, but if you cant wait for ICS, go for Nexus, it's the only thing that brings the Note down.

Note without a doubt. I was interested in the Nexus back when I had an SGS2 but as soon as I learned of the Note (bigger screen, same GPU as SGS2, faster CPU and expandable microSD) I knew it was the one for me and not Nexus. Nexus has too many compromises to be worth it for anyone but a developer.

Of course note.
The note has everything the nexus has and a larger screen in addition.

16gb just doesn't cut it. And now I am used to the size of the note I'm not sure I could ever go back. Its pushing my ipad aside too.
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I like the larger screen for emailing and surfing.
I dislike those soft buttons on the Nexus, they don't look appealing to me and I like having hard buttons.
So it was a no-brainer.

Is it worth buying Note 1 in 2013.

Hi guys,
I'm considering buying a new phone. I am interested in Note 2. But it is out of budget. Do you guys think, Note 1 is viable option? I want a phone that works. I am absolutely pissed at my current phone. It lags.
I want to know if it is a good option to buy Note 1 in 2013? Does games run smoothly? And last, how is the developer support?
Thanks for taking time to read it. Looking forward for replies.
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Firstly, this is a question so it should go in the Q&A section. But whatever.
Secondly, regarding your question.
You're complaining about how your phone is laggy and after following this thread for a while, I wouldn't recommend getting the Note for a "lag-free" phone.
Here's why:
Darren Moffatt said:
Screen Resolution will always have an impact on performance. The more pixels to display, the harder the GPU has to work. Given the note has a significantly higher resolution than the Galaxy S2 while running the same GPU (and pretty much the same hardware overall), its unlikely you'll see the same graphics performance between the two devices.
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vegetables said:
They got the same chipset, and that's exactly the problem, that's why the note is always laggy unlike the incredible smoothness on S2 , you r comparing:
- 480 x 800 pixels, 4.3 inches (~217 ppi pixel density) ~> S2
TO
- 800 x 1280 pixels, 5.3 inches (~285 ppi pixel density) ~> Note 1
How could the same chipset handle bigger screen, higher resolution and more ppi ?
And even with CM kernel, it even laggs more and more
The solution? ~> buy Note 2 xD
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If you're looking for a phone that doesn't lag, I would recommend the Nexus 4.
If you're looking for a phone with a big screen, Samsung recently announced the Galaxy Mega series, although they have mid-range specs.
If you're wanting a high-end phone, but aren't willing to pay the high-price tag... well... you get what you pay for.

I was keen on getting Nexus 4 but it's not available in India. Btw, my current phone is Motorola Defy. It's terrible to say the least. All I want to know if it will function lag free in day to day performance and some gaming?
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little-vince said:
Firstly, this is a question so it should go in the Q&A section. But whatever.
Secondly, regarding your question.
You're complaining about how your phone is laggy and after following this thread for a while, I wouldn't recommend getting the Note for a "lag-free" phone.
Here's why:
If you're looking for a phone that doesn't lag, I would recommend the Nexus 4.
If you're looking for a phone with a big screen, Samsung recently announced the Galaxy Mega series, although they have mid-range specs.
If you're wanting a high-end phone, but aren't willing to pay the high-price tag... well... you get what you pay for.
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i dont really understand the " buy note 2 " thing. because it has the same gpu as the note 1.

note 1 is still a worthy device to have because at present it can run every app that is in the play store.
but soon it will not be enough.
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rashsalmn said:
Hi guys,
I'm considering buying a new phone. I am interested in Note 2. But it is out of budget. Do you guys think, Note 1 is viable option? I want a phone that works. I am absolutely pissed at my current phone. It lags.
I want to know if it is a good option to buy Note 1 in 2013? Does games run smoothly? And last, how is the developer support?
Thanks for taking time to read it. Looking forward for replies.
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For me No! Because now smartphones requires atleast Quad Core Processor With 2GB..... NOTE Became Average Phone B'coz it has Dual Core Processor ...

RockstarGamer said:
For me No! Because now smartphones requires atleast Quad Core Processor With 2GB..... NOTE Became Average Phone B'coz it has Dual Core Processor ...
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I'm glad you said "For me".
Dual Core is a great asset in a phone, just like in PCs when they first hit, but Quad Core hasn't really had the same impact, and won't for some time (IMHO). Phones are still not multitaskers from a user point of view; we can only have one app on screen at any one time (other than some phones that allow two, including the Note 1). So you could argue that the app that has the focus takes one core, and background tasks take the other (although it is a little more complicated than that). Most apps are not multithreaded either, so there are few benefits to more than 2 cores. Web browsers, for example, are mostly single threaded.
The newer phones tend to be quicker / slicker in real world use more because of the refinements in the CPU core, better GPU and (to a lesser extent) faster speeds. Whether you see improvements from 2GB of RAM over 1GB is purely subjective and depends on individual use patterns. Increased CPU speed only helps for, to be generous, about 20% of time when the phone is in use. Less than 5% overall.
And the arguements that the Note 1 is slower than the S2 were also true when the Note 1 was brand new, which didn't stop it selling extrememly well! That arugement is flawed.
The bottom line, for the OP, is "How much?". Comparisons shouldn't be made between the Note 1 and the Note 2, nor with any newer phone with a Quad Core CPU and 2GB of RAM, they are in different price brackets. Comparisons should be made to phones in the same price bracket, the age of a device is irrelevant (for now). Depending on how cheaply the Note 1 can be bought for, that might make it a very good prospect.
I personally find the 'lower' resolution of the Note 1 to be fine, and I really appreciate that it is 16x10 rather than 16x9 in aspect ratio.
However, it is an older phone and I doubt Samsung will release any more updates for it after the recent 4.1.2. Developer support is very strong, though, and custom ROMs are getting better and better as the Exynos chipset is exploited more and more in the open source drivers. The Note 1 running SuperNexus or SlimBean is really quite slick. And if you want some of the stock Samsung Apps then Cassies ROM is great for getting rid of the bloat.
Out here in Qatar, the Note 1 is still for sale, but is more expensive than the Nexus 4 is in the UK (excluding flight costs!). The Nexus 4 is a stunning phone. So it all comes down to cost and availability of other phones.

Sinker_UK said:
I'm glad you said "For me".
Dual Core is a great asset in a phone, just like in PCs when they first hit, but Quad Core hasn't really had the same impact, and won't for some time (IMHO). Phones are still not multitaskers from a user point of view; we can only have one app on screen at any one time (other than some phones that allow two, including the Note 1). So you could argue that the app that has the focus takes one core, and background tasks take the other (although it is a little more complicated than that). Most apps are not multithreaded either, so there are few benefits to more than 2 cores. Web browsers, for example, are mostly single threaded.
The newer phones tend to be quicker / slicker in real world use more because of the refinements in the CPU core, better GPU and (to a lesser extent) faster speeds. Whether you see improvements from 2GB of RAM over 1GB is purely subjective and depends on individual use patterns. Increased CPU speed only helps for, to be generous, about 20% of time when the phone is in use. Less than 5% overall.
And the arguements that the Note 1 is slower than the S2 were also true when the Note 1 was brand new, which didn't stop it selling extrememly well! That arugement is flawed.
The bottom line, for the OP, is "How much?". Comparisons shouldn't be made between the Note 1 and the Note 2, nor with any newer phone with a Quad Core CPU and 2GB of RAM, they are in different price brackets. Comparisons should be made to phones in the same price bracket, the age of a device is irrelevant (for now). Depending on how cheaply the Note 1 can be bought for, that might make it a very good prospect.
I personally find the 'lower' resolution of the Note 1 to be fine, and I really appreciate that it is 16x10 rather than 16x9 in aspect ratio.
However, it is an older phone and I doubt Samsung will release any more updates for it after the recent 4.1.2. Developer support is very strong, though, and custom ROMs are getting better and better as the Exynos chipset is exploited more and more in the open source drivers. The Note 1 running SuperNexus or SlimBean is really quite slick. And if you want some of the stock Samsung Apps then Cassies ROM is great for getting rid of the bloat.
Out here in Qatar, the Note 1 is still for sale, but is more expensive than the Nexus 4 is in the UK (excluding flight costs!). The Nexus 4 is a stunning phone. So it all comes down to cost and availability of other phones.
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I agree with you up to a certain extent. However I wish to raise the following points-
Dual cores are not as efficient as quad cores.
As you say, RAM is subjective but 2 GB will give better results than 1 GB.
I don't like the 16:10 aspect ratio
Exynos chipset won't be exploited any more - developers are steadily leaving the Exynos chipsets behind and moving on to Qualcomm chipsets.
Yes, there will be just one more update to 4.2.2 and then Samsung will drop support.
Out here in India, Nexus 4 isn't even available officially.
@op I wouldn't buy this phone if I were you. Get something from the newer generation or get the note2 secondhand when the note 3 comes out - doubtless there will be more than one idiot willing to throw away a perfectly good phone for the latest and greatest.
However if you want a phone that 'just works' and developer support is important then go for a Sony.
What am I getting ? The next nexus. But that's because I'm a flashaholic !

BUY ONE! I skipped the note 2 as we have no 4g. Quad cores only give 60%more processing power not double. I over clocked mine to1.6gig.
I'm vv happy with it still. You should skip a generation as the tec is good for two years. Phone makers want you to up date every year.
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howard bamber said:
BUY ONE! I skipped the note 2 as we have no 4g. Quad cores only give 60%more processing power not double. I over clocked mine to1.6gig.
I'm vv happy with it still. You should skip a generation as the tec is good for two years. Phone makers want you to up date every year.
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It will be two years this October....

warfareonly said:
Exynos chipset won't be exploited any more - developers are steadily leaving the Exynos chipsets behind and moving on to Qualcomm chipsets.!
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I'm not sure that's the case. The Exynos 4 is still in current hardware, such as the S3, Note 2 and Note 8. The Exynos 5 is in the Nexus 10 and is expected to show up in the S4 at some point. All of these devices have a huge amount of aftermarket dev support.
warfareonly said:
Dual cores are not as efficient as quad cores.
As you say, RAM is subjective but 2 GB will give better results than 1 GB.
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Again, we need to compare on price, not hardware specs. I don't know how much the Note sells for in India, but compare that with what's available in the same price bracket. The Note cannot now compete with the latest and greatest, nor the previous top models perhaps, but I'm sure it would fair very well indeed against the current mid-range crop.
As for the Dual / Quad core arguement, check what Anand says when he reviews the Note 8 and talks about Multiview:
Here’s where having four cores actually can make a difference.
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Meaning that in general 4 cores are not really any more useful than 2 unless you have something that specifically can benefit.

wait for note 3
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RockstarGamer said:
For me No! Because now smartphones requires atleast Quad Core Processor With 2GB..... NOTE Became Average Phone B'coz it has Dual Core Processor ...
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While your net decision is agreeable, the logic you provided for it is full of misnomers. The 'more cores and more RAM' theory doesn't work that way. Buying a phone with that logic is just plain ignorance. A dual core phone can still do wonders if the materials are right. An old horse Note1 with 2 exynos cores can do a lot more than a new phone with 4 MedaTek cores. And RAM is pretty much useless without proper optimizations on both s/w and h/w fronts.
To the OP - It is an old phone, reaching two years in Oct. And it was first designed to run Gingerbread so we have come a long way already in terms of support. So you are gonna drop 26-27K on a phone that is great but would not be officially supported for very long. Plus it should see significant drop in prices when the Note 3 comes out (the trade value of the phone will be peanuts compared to what you would pay for it now).
However, on the plus side you would get an excellent phone. With proper care and the help pf XDA resources you would not need official support. We should easily see Key Lime Pie (Android 5.0) on our notes not long after it comes out. Plus it is an awesome device, did I say?? And for ~26K, the alternatives are mid-range phones that just can't match up.
If I were you, I would buy a pre-owned Note 1 (or a Xolo A800 which I must admit is quite nice and cheap). Then when it comes out, get a brand new Note 3.

rxpaul said:
While your net decision is agreeable, the logic you provided for it is full of misnomers. The 'more cores and more RAM' theory doesn't work that way. Buying a phone with that logic is just plain ignorance. A dual core phone can still do wonders if the materials are right. An old horse Note1 with 2 exynos cores can do a lot more than a new phone with 4 MedaTek cores. And RAM is pretty much useless without proper optimizations on both s/w and h/w fronts.
To the OP - It is an old phone, reaching two years in Oct. And it was first designed to run Gingerbread so we have come a long way already in terms of support. So you are gonna drop 26-27K on a phone that is great but would not be officially supported for very long. Plus it should see significant drop in prices when the Note 3 comes out (the trade value of the phone will be peanuts compared to what you would pay for it now).
However, on the plus side you would get an excellent phone. With proper care and the help pf XDA resources you would not need official support. We should easily see Key Lime Pie (Android 5.0) on our notes not long after it comes out. Plus it is an awesome device, did I say?? And for ~26K, the alternatives are mid-range phones that just can't match up.
If I were you, I would buy a pre-owned Note 1 (or a Xolo A800 which I must admit is quite nice and cheap). Then when it comes out, get a brand new Note 3.
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I M Talking about NOTE II Not Craps with Mediatek Chipsets

IMHO if u dont' already own a Note 1, u should go for the Note 2, or wait for Note 3 =)

♡ for my note. Its my personal computing device and my diary and album
Get any note device and you will be a happy person.
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You all said S3 was ugly too...

And after 1.5 years it has sold over 100 million units and is the best selling smartphone of all times!!!

I personally did feel that the S3 was ugly considering it to be the successor to the awesome looking S2.
But S3 was having the best specs among all Androids the year it was launched which made it sell well. Also, the design wasn't that bad as it thought it would be.
No doubt S5 will sell well too. It's just that people expected a completely different design and are now disappointed.

As said, too much hype, and Samsung did a very good job of keeping all the details secret to the very last day. The S5 we got has very much expected specifications and is made of the best hardware available today, everyone dreamed of new unseen hardware and well it didn't happen ...

system.img said:
I personally did feel that the S3 was ugly considering it to be the successor to the awesome looking S2.
But S3 was having the best specs among all Androids the year it was launched which made it sell well. Also, the design wasn't that bad as it thought it would be.
No doubt S5 will sell well too. It's just that people expected a completely different design and are now disappointed.
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Htc One X had similar specs I think.

I bought the s3, and I loved it but Samsung has changed and is no longer a desirable product. Knox security, restricted and locked bootloaders and updates that are slower than molasses. I just don't see the appeal of Samsung anymore
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Htc One X had similar specs I think.
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Nexus 4 came a bit later but was on the same playing field for a lot cheaper
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md1008 said:
I bought the s3, and I loved it but Samsung has changed and is no longer a desirable product. Knox security, restricted and locked bootloaders and updates that are slower than molasses. I just don't see the appeal of Samsung anymore
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Nexus 4 came a bit later but was on the same playing field for a lot cheaper
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None of the other vendors are exactly better at updates, the Nexus-line is sole in that respect. And some Samsung software are actually much better than the pure Google experience ie the cam/camcorder.
Samsung, as being popular, has very good AOSP dev support and a very large modding community which makes Samsung a safe bet for those who likes messing around with the software on the device

system.img said:
I personally did feel that the S3 was ugly considering it to be the successor to the awesome looking S2.
But S3 was having the best specs among all Androids the year it was launched which made it sell well. Also, the design wasn't that bad as it thought it would be.
No doubt S5 will sell well too. It's just that people expected a completely different design and are now disappointed.
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It had the same amount of RAM as the Galaxy S2.

noideaforusername said:
It had the same amount of RAM as the Galaxy S2.
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And 1GB RAM phones have been reborn to a second life with AOSP Kit Kat which is much lighter on RAM than stock firmwares ... meaning, 2GB RAM will probably last quite long ...

xeizo said:
And 1GB RAM phones have been reborn to a second life with AOSP Kit Kat which is much lighter on RAM than stock firmwares ... meaning, 2GB RAM will probably last quite long ...
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Exactly. People complain about nothing changed in the hardware department but they forgot that KitKat changed a lot in the software department plus the fact that Samsung learned how to write good software and delivered lag-free experience with lots of great features. And all of this with only 5.28GB space taken by the system (as opposed to 7.21GB in my S4).
So People should stop complain, this is a great phone (although I won't buy it cause my S4 still works great), and people are just whining while the competition isn't any better (same design and specs, but with much less features and without removable battery and microSD card slot).

JoJo2211 said:
And after 1.5 years it has sold over 100 million units and is the best selling smartphone of all times!!!
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I had S3 and i can just say it was the ugliest phone i ever had but i loved it for the specs and the huge screen , now i am rolling with Note 2 it looks much better than s3 s4 and s5 at least for me but still note 2 design sucks compared to some of Sony HTC and LG phones. Not trolling just speaking the truth .

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JoJo2211 said:
And after 1.5 years it has sold over 100 million units and is the best selling smartphone of all times!!!
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it s way of Samsung!
S2 & Note were nice
S3 & Note2 were ugly
S4 & Note3 are nice
S5 & ... are ugly!
BUT IT s JUST my PERSONAL opinion cause i don't like round design!

I like a rounded design because its very comfortable to hold, and it fits comfortably in the pocket, what I call userfriendly design which always wins in my book

To be realistic s5 is a good device with Samsung plugging every loop hole that's present with the previous version, you get
1. Updated touchwiz
2. Water proof
3. Brightest led screen ever made
4. Isocell camera module
5. Updated processor as per Industry standard
6. Somewhat bigger battery
7. All the goodies present with previous galaxy devices.
8. 128gb sd card support
The design is as same as s4,the bigger bezels are the compromise Samsung made for making it water proof. We all know Samsung is not going to have a super duper design.
The phone will not satisfy or justify s4 and note 3 users, apart from them it should satisfy other users to be realistic, at the end of the day it's upto the personal preferences
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^^
water resistance not water proof :/

xeizo said:
None of the other vendors are exactly better at updates, the Nexus-line is sole in that respect. And some Samsung software are actually much better than the pure Google experience ie the cam/camcorder.
Samsung, as being popular, has very good AOSP dev support and a very large modding community which makes Samsung a safe bet for those who likes messing around with the software on the device
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Htc update there phones faster than samsung now . They coming back but without a sd slot and a better camera it's gonna be tough to catch up they design gorgeous phones but the looks don't do anything special unlike having expandable memory and a nice camera. I don't like samsung tw or there design but they give me the best package money can buy I need alot of memory and phones without a sd slot is a no go. 64 gigs is nothing now my card is filled up . 128 gig internal memory then I would venture elsewhere.
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yahyoh said:
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water resistance nor water proof :/
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I think it has been quoted as 30 min under 1 m deep water, I would call that some sort of water resistance. Especially contrary to Apples garanty voiding humidity detectors which are VERY easily triggered ....

xeizo said:
I think it has been quoted as 30 min under 1 m deep water, I would call that some sort of water resistance. Especially contrary to Apples garanty voiding humidity detectors which are VERY easily triggered ....
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typo hehe , i meant "not" :cyclops:

bala_gamer said:
To be realistic s5 is a good device with Samsung plugging every loop hole that's present with the previous version, you get
1. Updated touchwiz
2. Water proof
3. Brightest led screen ever made
4. Isocell camera module
5. Updated processor as per Industry standard
6. Somewhat bigger battery
7. All the goodies present with previous galaxy devices.
8. 128gb sd card support
The design is as same as s4,the bigger bezels are the compromise Samsung made for making it water proof. We all know Samsung is not going to have a super duper design.
The phone will not satisfy or justify s4 and note 3 users, apart from them it should satisfy other users to be realistic, at the end of the day it's upto the personal preferences
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The S4 card capacity isn't an advantage at all because all Galaxies starting from the S3 and Note 2 used XC standards instead which will support capacities of up to 2TB providing that it was formatted to the correct format aka FAT32.

Thread closed as the topic is not related to the S5.

From bad to worse! Note 5 not available in Europe!

Just watched the unpacked and it was all a bit MEH.
Samsung say they won't even release the note 5 in Europe so it has got even worse!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33859952
I hope LG are reading these threads!

The S6 Edge plus is now available for pre-register on Samsung UK but no sign of the Note 5 so even if you wanted one you can't LOL!
http://www.samsung.com/uk/home/

Does anyone know what the price of the s6 edge plus will be? In UK
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Samsung really are going downhill, lack of support for the Note 4 now this, if you want a Phablet this year better to wait for the Moto X style or the Nexus both 5.7" and both will get superb support.
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Does anyone know what the price of the s6 edge plus will be? In UK
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Around £600+ for the 32GB version i would guess.

I'm starting to think Samsung is attempting to bankrupt themselves...
"Marketing reasons". According to Tweakers, the reason is "Because Europeans haven't been using the stylus for years". Their market research team is comprised of morons, it seems.
Either that, or they're postponing it for Europe until the Snapdragon is available...

This is utterly stupid. I honestly hope this fails big time.

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Note 4 the last of the greats
I think we can now finally say the Note 4 was the last of Samsung's best products.
Its bad enough that the Note 5 has been stripped of major features like MicroSD and IR Blaster, but they then go on to not make it available globally and force the crap S6 Edge+ on us.
I am truly disappointed. I have no idea where to go now from Samsung, maybe to Motorola or Sony, but none of their products match up to the Note 4.

They've amended their statement pretty quickly...
Samsung now says they won't release it in the EU this year, but that they "will look at further opportunities to launch the Galaxy Note 5 in other markets based on individual market situations"
Which makes a tiny bit of sense, because they don't have much to fear from Apple in the EU. Apple's market share is only 12% here.
I'm starting to suspect a Note 5+ to be released alongside the S7 in April, with an S820. Europe's Note devices have always been Snapdragons, with the Exynos models being the models for less advanced markets. Considering the S6+ today, it's not a big leap to expect a Note 5+.

Galaxaster said:
Just watched the unpacked and it was all a bit MEH.
Samsung say they won't even release the note 5 in Europe so it has got even worse!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33859952
I hope LG are reading these threads!
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The worse part is the 3000mah. Its gonna last 3 hrs heavy use . Max.

toofimoofi said:
The worse part is the 3000mah. Its gonna last 3 hrs heavy use . Max.
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I really don't understand where you get your numbers from. It had 220mah less than a note 4 however has more efficient processor more efficient software and more efficient screen, the note 4 lasts roughly 5 hours SOT with less efficient hw. Yes the note 5 will be a pile of crap but don't try and make out it will be a bigger pile of crap than the note 4, I think android M will make it an absolute beast as well if they focus properly on their new phones. What I don't understand is, will the s6 edge plus be considered a flagship over the edge? And be considered first for updates or will they job it out like the note 4?
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Shame that the best features for power users are being removed from the Note 5.... No removable battery, no MIcroSD slot, no IR blaster..... Also shame that it won't be available in Europe.
I wonder what is Samsung thinking?

So, what did we get this year?
1. No SD Card slot.
2. No IR Blaster.
3. No removable battery.
4. Smaller battery.
5. The Note 5 will Not get to Europe.
Good job Samsung, you know how to satisfy your customers.

Drizzy xS said:
I really don't understand where you get your numbers from. It had 220mah less than a note 4 however has more efficient processor more efficient software and more efficient screen, the note 4 lasts roughly 5 hours SOT with less efficient hw. Yes the note 5 will be a pile of crap but don't try and make out it will be a bigger pile of crap than the note 4, I think android M will make it an absolute beast as well if they focus properly on their new phones. What I don't understand is, will the s6 edge plus be considered a flagship over the edge? And be considered first for updates or will they job it out like the note 4?
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Android M will not get on this phone till late spring.
Note 4 ?

I think samsung will launch improved version for europe next year.

Drizzy xS said:
I really don't understand where you get your numbers from. It had 220mah less than a note 4 however has more efficient processor more efficient software and more efficient screen, the note 4 lasts roughly 5 hours SOT with less efficient hw. Yes the note 5 will be a pile of crap but don't try and make out it will be a bigger pile of crap than the note 4, I think android M will make it an absolute beast as well if they focus properly on their new phones. What I don't understand is, will the s6 edge plus be considered a flagship over the edge? And be considered first for updates or will they job it out like the note 4?
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After 6 months the battery won't hold a charge nearly as well; I have two batteries and the original is clearly a lot worse already (bought my phone i January). With the new battery I get around 7 hours of SoT (see the battery thread), and with the old one I get around 5 1/2. The Note 4 definitely isn't a pile of crap, but samsung are actively trying to make it worse than it is by not releasing updates and making sure we have the latest touchwiz etc. The Note 5 is a complete joke.

Come to Israel Next week they are giving 200 people who sign up a Note 5 with a charging cradle.
They assume it will cost 940 euros.

AndroidState said:
Come to Israel Next week they are giving 200 people who sign up a Note 5 with a charging cradle.
They assume it will cost 940 euros.
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Source, please?

AndroidState said:
Come to Israel Next week they are giving 200 people who sign up a Note 5 with a charging cradle.
They assume it will cost 940 euros.
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940euros? That's insane considering it isn't much of an upgrade from the Note 4. I paid ~530€ for my Note 4 and it came with an external battery (3500mAh).

Toss3 said:
940euros? That's insane considering it isn't much of an upgrade from the Note 4. I paid ~530€ for my Note 4 and it came with an external battery (3500mAh).
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Yeah, usually its us who go to europe to buy phones because the taxes here are insane (50% all together)
I paid the mutch for Note 4.
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Li-Pol said:
Source, please?
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I'm not uploading a photo for sceptics
תתקשר לסניף של סאני ותשלם 200 שקל הרשמה.

Note 5 or s7?

I'm really eager to upgrade my device in a few weeks and was wondering if should get the note 5 or wait for the s7 with the new processor... in February? I cannot deal with this buggy, and slow iPhone 5s anymore...

I mean, you're always going to be waiting for the latest and greatest given how often new models are released.
Personally, I think the Note 5 and S6 are pretty good phones as-is. They're certainly not slow, so you don't necessarily need the new processor.
Check it out in-person and see if there are any shortcomings/annoyances/things that don't meet your needs...if it's a big enough deal, then wait to see what the next generation brings.

EncryptedCurse said:
I mean, you're always going to be waiting for the latest and greatest given how often new models are released.
Personally, I think the Note 5 and S6 are pretty good phones as-is. They're certainly not slow, so you don't necessarily need the new processor.
Check it out in-person and see if there are any shortcomings/annoyances/things that don't meet your needs...if it's a big enough deal, then wait to see what the next generation brings.
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I personally think so too but the s6 display seems small for me and I've played both the note 5 and s6. The only annoyances I've had with the current generation galaxy S and note series are the lack of expandable storage and removable battery... Note 4 would be an alternative BUT fingerprint scanner sucks on that phone, bad speaker placement, and it's an old device. I really wish the note 5 had the usb-type c charging port, and expandable storage with at least 3700+mah battery.... So that I wouldn't care for the removable back.

I would wait for the s7. I would wait to see the performance of the new Snapdragon 820 and the exynos 8890 processors, depending where in the world you are. The 820 is supposed to be much better than the 801 or 805...(not even counting the 810 and its poor performance). Also If you're crazy about displays, there is also the rumor that there is an additional premium 7s model with a 4k screen. The only reason to just get the note 5 is if you have to have a stylus.

Wait for the S8..
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